Resident Evil 5 Details

Er... What about the Revolution... by MBraynard · 2005-07-20 07:54 · Score: 2, Interesting

If you talk to any GC dude about what is great about GC, they love to mention RE 0.

But since this is going to be on the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Revolution, is that not a sign that Revolution is even further behind in development than you would otherwise think?

Also looks good for Xbox360 - there have been RE games for PC, DC, Saturn, PS, PS2, N64, and even Mobile platforms, but this would be the first for Xbox.

Re:Er... What about the Revolution... by Anonymous Coward · 2005-07-20 08:11 · Score: 3, Interesting

A safe bet would be that Resident Evil 5 may be released on the Revolution but they're not allowed to talk about it right now.

"Capcom has a multi-platform strategy in order to provide Capcom products to as many users as possible," a spokesperson for the company told IGNcube. "Given this strategy, it is certainly feasible that other platforms could be considered at some point."

In general, with Nintendo probably having a very (VERY) strict NDA in place on any information related to the Revolution, you could assume that no company (even Capcom with their close relationship to Nintendo) would even do anything even remotely close to breaking the NDA.
Re:Er... What about the Revolution... by freeweed · 2005-07-20 09:33 · Score: 1

I'm surprised you didn't say RE 4. Zero was a decent update to the original RE style, and had a few graphical tricks, but it was basically more of the same. RE 4 was the first consumer product that I actually agree 100% with the advertising on: "Quite possibly the best video game ever made". I've been gaming on and off for going on 30 years now, and I've never put the time into a game like I did RE 4. I'm quite the old fart these days, as new games just don't seem as fun, and they're WAY too long to hold my interest (to give you an idea, I'm the only person on the planet who found Windwaker too long). But RE 4 kept me playing for several hours every night until I had beaten it. The extras that get unlocked with completion, which I almost universally ignore, are still keeping my interest.

It *better* come out for the Revolution. If it's half the game RE 4 was, and it brings back ZOMBIES (drool), It's a must-have for me. I'm already sold on the Revolution with the classic games, and buying multiple consoles early in their lifecycle is a bit pricey :)

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Re:Er... What about the Revolution... by TiredGamer · 2005-07-20 09:41 · Score: 1

Capcom to Nintendo: "That dog won't hunt."

That about sums up how a lot of 3rd parties feel about Revolution. :(

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Re:Er... What about the Revolution... by MBraynard · 2005-07-20 14:39 · Score: 1

I think you are right - I got them confuzed.
Re:Er... What about the Revolution... by owyn999 · 2005-07-21 01:43 · Score: 1

Now I realize that you guys may not have read them lately and I don't know how good of a source that they are but I am posting patents that were updated earlier this year. That is talk about what is commonly referred to as Cube Mapping.

If my understanding of what they are doing is correct then it should require less processing power, which in turn would require less Physical Power to produce the same quality or higher graphics with less processing power.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P TO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch- bool.htm%252Bl&r=24&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=nin tendo&s2=ibm&OS=nintendo+AND+ibm&RS=(nintendo+AND+ ibm

Yes this is all old news but Nintendo has refiled this patent as of 04 meaning that even though they use images from the Gamecube that this is going to be used for the revolution or maybe a future developed console.

They also filed the Bump Map Patent again hopefully this will also remove some of the requirements on the processor and GPU but until the systems are all released we will have to sit back and wait to see how it all plays out.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P TO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch- bool.html&r=21&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=nintendo .AS.&OS=AN/nintendo&RS=AN/nintendo /\ Bump Map Patent

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bah by BalbanesBeoulve · 2005-07-20 08:00 · Score: 3, Interesting

I wanted this on the cube again. I don't want to spend $500 for a PS3 to play this.

I'm willing to bet RE5 will come to the Revolution by Cap-America · 2005-07-20 08:01 · Score: 2, Insightful

I'm more then willing to bet that RE5 will also show up on the Revolution too.

Right now no 3rd party developers (except Square) have anounced any games for the Revolution. I think Nintendo is not alowing any anouncements untill after SpaceWorld.

I wish Nintendo would let 3rd party groups start announcing games. Keeping all this info hushed is really starting to get me pissed off. Its like Hey look at all the games I can get on the PS3 and Xbox360. But what does Nintendo have announced? NES, SNES and N64 games -_-x

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Re:I'm willing to bet RE5 will come to the Revolut by Anonymous Coward · 2005-07-20 08:22 · Score: 2, Informative

Thanks Zonk... by Cheapy · 2005-07-20 08:48 · Score: 1

After reading the comments of that story at 1up.com, I just lost hope for all of humanity.

Thanks a lot.

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Re:Sweet by jclast · 2005-07-20 09:06 · Score: 1

Might I direct your attention to Super Mario World, Super Mario Kart, Super Mario RPG, NBA Jam, Street Fighter II, and numerous others?

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Hmmm.. I wouldnt bet on that. by AzraelKans · 2005-07-20 09:16 · Score: 1

Maybe you are right, but maybe you are just on denial. That was a press announcement, they Cant LIE in those because they would lose their credibility to the media and thats BAD. If it were going to come out for revolution and they didnt want people to know they would have said something vague as "Coming for some next generation consoles" or along those lines. If they excluded Revolution, then is not coming on revolution, at least not at this time.

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Re:Hmmm.. I wouldnt bet on that. by AuMatar · 2005-07-20 10:08 · Score: 1

You can't lie in press announcements? Exactly what planet do you come from?

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Re:Hmmm.. I wouldnt bet on that. by MasterofUnlocking · 2005-07-20 12:58 · Score: 1

Capcom has lied their ASSES off for the past year. Remember all the games they said were GC exclusives and would NEVER come out for any other system? Yeah, well RE4 is coming the PS2 and Killer 7 was released on PS2 at the same time as the GC version, meaning it was probably in development WHILE they were telling us it was exclusive. And they never said it WASN'T coming to Revolution. They just said that it is on PS3 and Xbox 360. If it ended up coming out on Revolution they would not have been lying, they would have just held back some info.

Re:Sweet by jclast · 2005-07-20 09:20 · Score: 1

And also Super Metroid and Super Castlevania IV. How did I forget those 2?

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Re:Sweet by jclast · 2005-07-20 09:48 · Score: 1

I'm not saying you need to rush out and play them right now. The OP said there _were_ no good games for the SNES. At the time, these games were amazing. And I _still_ go back to Super Metroid. It's easily the best in the entire series.

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If im going to by hobotron · 2005-07-20 09:49 · Score: 2, Insightful

If im going to risk my life killing zombies for the good of the earth you better not make me pay for ammo as well.

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Re:If im going to by PeelBoy · 2005-07-21 04:22 · Score: 1

I use to wonder the same thing about almost every RPG ever made

Why is it not on the Rev? by Minced · 2005-07-20 09:57 · Score: 1

Simple! Because who would buy a game on a system with people like THIS!

Re:Why is it not on the Rev? by rohlfinator · 2005-07-20 11:44 · Score: 1

That poster (Nintendoian666) is obviously a devout worshipper of Satan, and therefore should not be compared with other Nintendo fans. ;)

Need a catchy name for Resident Evil 5 by Mr.Dippy · 2005-07-20 10:09 · Score: 2, Insightful

How about

Resident Evil: How to beat a dead horse

Resident Evil: Hot having to stand while you shoot action

Resident Evil: I get it they are fucking zombies

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Re:Need a catchy name for Resident Evil 5 by idonthack · 2005-07-20 12:35 · Score: 1

Resident Evil: How to beat a dead horse
You mean "Final Fantasy: How to beat a dead horse"
Resident Evil: Hot having to stand while you shoot action
You've never fired a gun, have you?
Resident Evil: I get it they are fucking zombies
Actually, in RE4, there were no zombies.
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Re:Need a catchy name for Resident Evil 5 by rohlfinator · 2005-07-20 12:45 · Score: 1

"You've never fired a gun, have you?"

Are you suggesting that an average person can't aim and fire a rocket launcher with pinpoint accuracy while jumping up and down and sprinting from side to side? What kind of gamer are you, man?
Re:Need a catchy name for Resident Evil 5 by cornface · 2005-07-21 09:38 · Score: 1

RE4 was fun for a while. However, every "room" whether outdoors or indoors was played exactly the same way.

Enter room (or outdoor area via gate).
Quickly run to corner, positioning dumb girl behind you.
Stand in corner and shoot the inevitable onslaught of "not zombies" that mindlessly march towards you.
When "not zombies" stop coming, grab items and enter next room.
Repeat.

The puzzles were stupid. "This horse shaped item looks like it would fit in the horse shaped hole in the dining room!"

Some levels were a lot of fun. Fighting off the hordes of "not zombies" trying to bash their not-dead selves into the barricaded cabin with the spanish guy was great.

I quit after I got to the "drop the giant ogre into the lava pit" stage. It started getting boring.

And no matter how many times you say they aren't zombies, when a horde of mindless humanoids come ambling out of a cemetary and try to bash their way into a cabin with barricaded doors...give me a break! They were zombies!
Re:Need a catchy name for Resident Evil 5 by Mr.Dippy · 2005-07-22 00:14 · Score: 1

The dead horse statement should include Final Fantasy. I'll give you that. All I'm asking is that they have an option where you can walk to or away from a zombie while firing a handgun. I'm not talking about flying through the air while shooting gernade launcher like it was some bad Michael Baye movie. Good Point with RE4 but generally speaking the RE series is know for zombies. Will see where RE5 takes the franchise.

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awesome by phUnBalanced · 2005-07-20 10:18 · Score: 1

all this says to me, is that ps and xbox users not only had to wait for a new version, but also a new platform revision, to equal the quality of what we enjoyed from RE4 on the game cube.

Rock on sony and ms.

An unfortunate dilema by Anonymous Coward · 2005-07-20 10:48 · Score: 1, Informative

Its odd, up until Resident Evil became Gamecube exclusive (well sort of) most of the Resident Evil games were mostly pretty average games; they had good graphics for their time but pretty clunky controls, simple puzzles, and a convoluted story line. With the remake of Resident Evil 1, and the release of Resident Evil 0 and Resident Evil 4 it has some how became a central gaming title. Having played all of them all the way through I can honestly say that, except for Resident Evil 4, they were entertaining games but they were far from the greatest games ever produced.

I know everyone likes to blame Nintendo for how poor this franchise sold on the gamecube, after all Resident Evil 0,1,4 only sold over a Million copies world wide each; but it wasn't Nintendo's fault that these games sold poorly. Capcom's biggest problem with these games is that the majority of users give up (pretty early on) because of how frustrating the controls are. The Resident Evil games sold poorly because the casual gamer who was introduced to them (probably on the Playstation, Dreamcast or N64) avoided them like the plague because of the control dynamics; which is really a shame because Resident Evil 4 actually fixed most of the problems with its new play style.

What these games have shown is that 'You can shear a sheep as many times as you want but you can only skin it once'. Regardless of whether it ends up on the Revolution or not Resident Evil 5 will probably continue to sell poorly because people will think that it has a really clumsy play style.

Re:Sweet by jeblucas · 2005-07-20 11:16 · Score: 1

Super Metroid. It's easily the best in the entire series.

I couldn't disagree more. The original Metroid was the superior game in my opinion. The "superior" graphics and memory capacity introduced two flaws that really demarcated 8-bit from 16-bit adventure games: automatic maps and noticeable "flaws" to tell you how to advance. (Drop a bomb here on this cracked rock!). I did not care for these innovations. They made the game easier for no reason. I remember the first time I set off a bomb somewhere in Metroid and the "block" disappeared. HOLY SHIT! There were whole WORLDS down there. I loved the hell out of that game. Super Metroid was pretty much the same game, except you didn't have to remember anything and you didn't have to look for anything. Bleh.

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Re:I'm willing to bet RE5 will come to the Revolut by idonthack · 2005-07-20 11:59 · Score: 1

Geist - 8/15/2005

I have been waiting on that game for
so
long.

Fuck yeah!!!
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Re:Sweet by rohlfinator · 2005-07-20 12:39 · Score: 1

"The "superior" graphics and memory capacity introduced two flaws that really demarcated 8-bit from 16-bit adventure games: automatic maps and noticeable "flaws" to tell you how to advance. (Drop a bomb here on this cracked rock!). I did not care for these innovations."

It's all a matter of preference, I suppose. Personally, I hated having to bomb/burn every tile in the original Zelda and Metroid in the hopes of randomly stumbling onto a secret that probably wasn't worth it. Super Metroid and LttP rewarded gamers with an eye for detail, whereas Zelda and Metroid rewarded gamers with, I don't know... way too much time on their hands?

Exploration-based games like those have always been way too expansive for the gamer to assume something is hidden behind a specific tile without some specific clue to its existance.

Re:I'm willing to bet RE5 will come to the Revolut by badasscat · 2005-07-20 12:57 · Score: 2, Interesting

I think Nintendo is not alowing any anouncements untill after SpaceWorld.

What Space World? Nintendo, AFAIK, has not announced any Space World for 2005, and it's already July.

This is what IGN wrote on May 19, two months ago:

"Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto reiterated Kaplan's comments in a recent interview, saying that more Revolution information would be forthcoming sooner rather than later, and that a new Space World was under consideration."

That was two months ago. "Sooner rather than later" is probably pretty much passed by now, and it's pretty clear that it's too late to organize a Space World show on such short notice at this point. Space World is traditionally held in August, either just before or just after Obon. They could hold it at a different time of year but that would dilute its effectiveness - I mean there are reasons why they hold it in August vs., say, November (it's cold in Tokyo! And kids are in school) or December (too late for Christmas) or January or February or March. The window for this year is probably already closed; next spring is probably the earliest they could organize and put on such a large-scale show.

I'm done being a Nintendo apologist (I used to be); I don't see anything they're doing with the Revolution that's giving me any hope for them whatsoever. Maybe they'll carve out their own little profitable niche with their classic games and their cheap hardware, but their lack of HD is really going to hurt them in the long-term, and that probably corresponds with an overall lack of graphics power that's going to hurt them with developers right from the get-go.

Keeping all this info hushed is really starting to get me pissed off. Its like Hey look at all the games I can get on the PS3 and Xbox360. But what does Nintendo have announced? NES, SNES and N64 games -_-x

Now we're on the same page. It seems most likely to me that Nintendo was caught flat-footed and is now in the process of formulating a strategy. It seems clear that they're not actually following a planned strategy right now - they're sort of making it up as they go along, and throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. People like the downloadable games, so they're keeping that. People didn't like that you have to pay for them, so now they're evaluating which games might be considered premiums. They don't seem to know what to do with third party developers. They have no real hardware to show or demonstrate or even give anybody the specs of. There are no dev kits that anybody knows anything about. They seem to be flying on a wing and a prayer right now.

I think it's pretty likely that RE5 is not planned for the Revolution at the moment, simply because Nintendo has not given anybody any reason to think this is a viable platform as of yet. Obviously, Capcom, like all experienced publishers, knows to keep their options open so they say things like "we could always bring it to other platforms later". There's no exclusivity with anybody. But that doesn't mean they're even considering a Revolution port at this point, just that they're going to wait and see what happens before pouring a bunch of resources into it.

Sigh. by sbszine · 2005-07-20 13:45 · Score: 2, Informative

I would have agreed with you a year or two ago -- RE 0 through 3 really were beating a dead horse. But having just played through Resident Evil 4, I think there's a lot of life left in the franchise. Since you seem to have missed it, I'll fill you in.

RE4 is set in an anonymous Spanish speaking country (often outdoors), and rather than zombies, it pits you against some decidedly Cthuloid enemies. The controls are finally functional (you can run, spin around, aim properly etc), and the inventory and ammo system has been fixed up (reloading is a matter of pressing a button).

In play, it feels a more like an FPS game than a surival horror title. There's plenty of sniping, some rail shooter levels, and even some rhythm-based hand to hand combat. There's also a bit of light RPG stuff in there: upgradable weapons, multiple paths, side quests etc.

Of course, you will need a GameCube to play it, and they're just for kids*, right?

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Re:Sigh. by grumbel · 2005-07-21 04:47 · Score: 1

But why does it have to play in the RE franchise at all? Beside having a character that looked like Leon and a women that looked a bit like Ada, RE4 had pretty much nothing todo with the other games in the series, neither from the gameplay nor from the story. Replace Leon and Ada with some other characters and you have a game completly seperate from RE. This is especially important since the previous RE games (0,1,2,3,CV) all had a pretty closely connected story line, where one game directly connected to the previous one, RE4 on the other side simply doesn't connect to the previous at all.

I for one would have much prefered if Capcom simply would have started a new series instead of patchworking this into the RE franchise. RE4 is good enough of a game to stand on its on feet, as a RE title on the other side I found it pretty disapointing.

Zombies and Consoles... by chudgoo · 2005-07-20 13:45 · Score: 1

To those that don't 'get' the zombie genre, or think that this is just 'more of the same' I have this to say...

We like it. We will continue to buy these games until they stop making them.
No one is giving you shit for buying John Fucking Madden 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000, 2001, 2002..etc...
You dig?!!?!??
The cool thing about games is that (unlike movies), games get better with each iteration.

Another thing/side rant....
It's pretty much irrelevent which systems feature which games. If the game is cool, it will sell systems.
Whether or not I buy a system is not important. WHEN I do, and for WHAT GAME is.
It doesn't bother me one bit that my Resident Evil collection spans two systems...

Resident Evil 0 - Gamecube
Resident Evil - Gamecube
Resident Evil 2 - Gamecube
Resident Evil 3 : Nemesis - Gamecube
Resident Evil Code Veronica X - Gamecube
Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube
Resident Evil : Dead Aim - Playstation2
Resident Evil Outbreak - Playstation2
Resident Evil Outbreak File 2 - Playstation2

(heh, my Metal Gear collection spans FOUR systems although it doesn't need to really.... MGS (PS1), MGS:Twin Snakes (Gamecube), MGS2:Substance (Xbox), MGS3:Snake Eater (PS2)

I call B.S. on this story by jpiggot · 2005-07-20 22:43 · Score: 1

"What's interesting is that it's a bright and sunny day as the mindless creatures attack and maul"...please. The dust hasn't even settled off RE 4 - Which, I will remind you, had a complete and utter plot and theme overall halfway through development (after they'd shown people demo movies)

So to assume ANYTHING from screenshots (that may or not be faked) is just insane. I don't even think the DESIGNERS know what the tone and themes of this game are going to be. Post some information in two years, and I'll be more likely to give it some credit.

Seriously. It's way too early.

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anonymous Spanish speaking country? by koi88 · 2005-07-20 23:16 · Score: 1

RE4 is set in an anonymous Spanish speaking country

Uh... the country's name is Spain. I think it's in Europe.
But you're right, RE rocks.

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Finally Hardware Catches Up... by rAiNsT0rm · 2005-07-21 01:52 · Score: 1

All the darkness in games that was always touted as a "feature" was actually a cheap/easy solution to lack of hardware power and draw distances and polygons on screen. Now that the hardware is getting more powerful we won't need fog filled levels or night/flashlight levels unless they are to legitimately convey an atmosphere (or developers still taking the easy way out).

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Re:Finally Hardware Catches Up... by sznupi · 2005-07-22 05:03 · Score: 1

Silent Hill 3 & 4 still has dense fog...but it doesn't have to on PC, so..(btw, the fog in SH is simply superb - probably more computations are needed for it than 2x bigger scenery) In some cases it is justified...

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Re:Oh boy! Wait a sec... by apoc06 · 2005-07-21 04:08 · Score: 1

re4 is still coming for the ps2. your last statement is false. re4 for the ps2 was shown as late as e3 this year.

well, i think that the success of RE4 lies in the fact that the console has a lack of more mature titles. not to drag on and on about "kiddie" reputation of the GC, but there is a serious lack of more adult themed game titles on the GC. period. when you take a very, very popular console title that until then had no recent original releases [sequels and remakes dont count] and release it for a system like the GC, you have a group of fans that are starving for more adult games and you have an automatic best seller. add to the fact that it is supposedly a good game [havent played re4 yet] and there you have it.

similarly, capcom understands that the re franchise began with the playstation. due to brand loyalty, many playstation owners are owners of the ps2, and would love the opportunity to play one of their more popular franchises on hardware that they actually own, and once again... there you have it. why wouldnt capcom release re4 for the ps2? due to the latter, the re fanbase for the ps2 is probably even larger than on the gc. and since it is supposedly a good game, im sure that releasing re4 on the ps2 will attract more of the ps2's broad userbase to the franchise. since many of the ps2 fanbase will move on to purchase ps3s, they will be interested in buying another sequel to the franchise. it all makes sense, at least to me.

i can foresee capcom contemplating releasing re5 for the revolution, but since probably even capcom has no idea what the revolution control schema will be like, nor do they even know if it can handle the graphical prowess that they are using for the other two next gen systems. how can they be assured that the game they have already spent months developing will even be portable to this new console? they are waiting to see what the revolution will provide them to work with before making such an announcement.

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