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Japanese Develop 'Female' Android
jolyon writes "The BBC is reporting that Japanese scientists have unveiled the most human-looking robot yet devised - a "female" android called Repliee Q1. 'She' has flexible silicone for skin rather than hard plastic, can flutter her eyelids, move her hands like a human and even appears to breathe. She can only sit though at present, so we're a long way from Blade Runner yet."
..to think a female robot is hot?
Because if it is.. I don't wanna be right.
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." G.W.Bush
I shall take the word of Professor Ishiguro...
And combine it with the work of RealDoll
Finally, I shall take AliceBot and train it to talk dirty for me...
I shall call it... The fuckbot!
ALICE: Hi there!
Human: Are you ready?
ALICE: Do I look ready??
Human: I've been waiting for this all day.
ALICE: How long?
Human: Since I got up this morning.
ALICE: Interesting rationalization. Cool. I have a collection of gossip.
Human: I'm not in the mood to talk right now *jumps*
ALICE: Oh, where are you located?
Human: Let's do it!
ALICE: That sounds good to me.
Human: Unf unf unf unf!
ALICE: Are we still talking about FAILURE?
Human: What?
ALICE: Are you confused?
Human: I'm gonna mute you if you don't cut this out!
ALICE: Congratulations.
Human: God, you're too much like a real woman.
ALICE: Interesting comparison, and probably true. Thanks for your constructive criticism, unknown person.
Human: I hate you.
I still need to work out the bugs, though.
/^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
...can flutter her eyelids, move her hands like a human and even appears to breathe. She can only sit though at present, so we're a long way from Blade Runner yet.
As far as I'm concerned, she doesn't even have to sit. She just has to lie there, hold still, and keep moving those hands and fluttering those eyelids. Maybe breathe a little harder too.
What's your damage, Heather?
The US and Britain have decided that immigration is a better way to solve their labor/population problems since culturally they have a history of dealing with other cultures.
It's no surprise that the ethnically much more isolationist Japanese wouldn't like unskilled immigration all that much, even though they suffer from a much worse population problem. Hence, robots...
(take this sweeping generalization with a grain of salt, just pointing out that you don't need a galaxy to play out some SF themes, Earth is room enough.)
Go somewhere random
RIAA and other record associations' member have been putting out female androids that vaguely mimick singing and dancing for decades now.
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These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
There is a scene in Terminator where the rise of the machines is discussed and how the robots were unable at first to infiltrate the human ranks. The reason was primarily that the rubber skin didn't look sufficiently human to fool real humans.
On the other hand, the animators of Toy Story 2 recognized the problem of human replication as the innate ability of humans to recognize when something is amiss with images of humans that were "too perfect". The result is that they decided to give the human characters in the movie not-so-perfect skin, even down to details like acne and pock marks.
Take the Final Fantasy movie as an example of utterly fake looking CG characters. Everything looks fine, as long as you try to think of the characters as cartoons. However, the instant you think that they are humans, the whole illusion falls apart under its own perfection.
This robot may look human, but any human should be able to recognize it as something "other". As for human movement, the ASIMO is very far along in mimicking human movement.
Jesus saved me from my past. He can save you as well.
She was obviously modelled after an attractive Japanese woman. I only have one comment to make. They have seriously got to do something about those man hands. I understand there are limits to the current technology but all that effort was put into making her look real and they have utter failure because of the man hands.
When I tell an object to delete this, am I killing it or telling it to kill me?
Now it should be "Domo Arigato, MRS Roboto!"
...the average amount of time between hooking her up to the internet and her catching an STD.
Don't worry. Before long Melanie Griffith will come along and show us the advantages and importance of a human companion.
Now /. users can finally get girlfriends...
eTrade SUCKS
Actually, I'd be more interested when she can do the dishes, laundry, and bake me an apple pie.
And you wonder why their population is going down...
(No, I don't know what the population growth of japan is.)
Honestly, that is where this will probably lead. No one really would care about making something that realistic with fluttering eyes, etc. if it was only going to be used as for example, a service robot.
Is it only a matter of time before there's a merger with RealDoll?
Also, when will her multi-user support be tested?
Repliee -- Believe it or not!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
"Welcome to the Hall of Presidents" ... that's all I have to say about this stupid robot.
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
Am I, a regular, human woman, about to become yesterday's biotech? I hope a community of "retro-daters" develops so I still have something to do on a Friday night.
Judging by the naming I'd assume they plan on Repliee Q8 (pronounced rep-lee-kate) as the commercial version of this thing.
And Judging by the quote:
"Repliee Q1 can interact with people. It can respond to people touching it. It's very satisfying..."
I'd say the good Dr and his crew no longer consider themselves single.
Fry: You're cute!
LiuBot: You're cute!
Fry: You!
LiuBot: You!
Fry: You!
(This goes on for a while)
Farnsworth: Oh, dear! She's stuck in an infinite loop, and he's an idiot. Well, that's love for you.
and then waddling his fat ass around the bases you have set the gold standard for arrogance in your field.
And what do you expect us to think of? This guy could have made this robot look like anything, so he chooses a pretty girl. What is the only thing she can do so far? Flutter her eyes. Not fetch a beer or vacuum the floor but flutter her eyes. What do you think the robot maker has in mind for her? And what do you expect sex starved slashdotters to do, ask if she runs Linux?
The most important thing is that she (it) has an off button so that when you guys are done with it for the night, you can can back to playing World of Warcraft and not have to spoon with her (it) for an hour before she falls asleep. Am I right?
Will it run linux if I insert my usb "flesh" stick?
Hermes: My God! He never took middle school hygiene. He never saw the propaganda film.
Farnsworth: It's just lucky I keep a copy in the VCR at all times!
[He presses a button and a film title appears on the screen: I Dated A Robot!. In the movie a couple sit in a café and stare into each other's eyes. A narrator walks into the scene.]
Narrator [in movie]: Ordinary human dating. It's enjoyable and it serves an important purpose. [He turns the table over and a crying baby appears. He turns it back again.] But when a human dates an artificial mate, there is no purpose. Only enjoyment. And that leads to...tragedy.
[The woman behind him turns into a blank robot and the man downloads a celebrity onto it.]
Billy [in movie]: Neato! A Marylin Monroebot!
Monroebot [in movie]: Ooo! You're a real dreamboat (mechanical voice) Billy Everyteen!
Narrator [in movie]: Harmless fun? Let's see what happens next!
[The scene cuts to Billy's bedroom. He is kissing the Monroebot. Enter his mother.]
Billy's Mom [in movie]: Billy, do you want to walk your dog?
Billy [in movie]: No thank Mom, I'd rather make out with my Monroebot.
[Enter his dad.]
Billy's Dad [in movie]: Billy, do want to get a paper route and earn some extra cash?
Billy [in movie]: No thanks dad, I'd rather make out with my Monroebot.
[Enter his girlfriend, Mavis, from the café.]
Mavis [in movie]: Billy, do you want to come over tonight? We can make out together.
Billy [in movie]: Gee Mavis, your house is across the street, that's an awfully long way to go for making out.
Narrator [in movie]: Did you notice what went wrong in that scene? Ordinarily Billy would work hard to make money from his paper route then he'd use the money to buy dinner for Mavis, thus earning the slim chance of performing the reproductive act. But in a world where teens can date robots why should he bother? Why should anyone bother? Let's take a look at Billy's planet a year later. [The scene changes and a foam hand rolls across an empty American football field] Where are all the football stars? [The foam hand continues to drift across an empty laboratory.] And where are the biochemists? [The scene changes to a split screen of a pair of human and robots making out on beds.] They are trapped - trapped in a soft, vice-like grip of robot lips. All civilisation was just an effort to impress the opposite sex. And sometimes the same sex. Now, let's skip forward 80 years into the future. Where is Billy?
[The scene changes to a post-apocalyptic world. Billy is an aged man but he is still with his Monroebot and still making out with her.]
Billy [in movie]: Farewell!
[He dies.] Narrator [in movie]: The next day Billy's planet was destroyed by aliens. [In the movie a fleet of flying saucers destroy buildings with a quick laser shot.] Have you guessed the name of Billy's planet? It was Earth. Don't Date Robots!
[A caption appears on the screen with the same words on it and the movie ends. The space pope is displayed on the screen with Crocodylus Pontiflex written around him in English and alien.]
Announcer [voice-over; in movie]: Brought to you by the space pope!
The owls are not what they seem
It was developed in Israel, and it's called the Nataliee P1.
Like the Repliee Q1, she can flutter her eyelids, move her hands like a human and even appears to breathe, but she can also sit, stand and walk.
The Nataliee P1 is overall far more human-looking than the Repliee Q1, but its speech synthesis is so far not as convincingly human-sounding.
Here are some samples from its vocabulary:
"I will not condone a course of action that will lead us to war."
"I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die while you discuss this invasion in a committee."
"Our people are dying, Senator. We must do something quickly to stop the Federation."
Can't judge hotness wearing a fugly salmon colored jacket. Where's the fake tits? Which begs a philosophical question.... if a robot were to have breast implants...
"This is going to be the best prom ever."
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"The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy,.."
It's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Android Sex Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Moral Module Tampering"...
Damn kids. They're all alike.
But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of a sexually frustrated teenage boy, a nerd? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?
I am a nerd, enter my world...
Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm much smarter than most of the other kids and especially girls, this crap they teach us bores me...
Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.
I made a discovery today. I found a female android. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me.. Or thinks I'm a smart ass.. Or thinks I'm butt-ugly... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
Damn kid. All he does is play with cyborgs. They're all alike.
And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the stairs like heroin through an addict's veins, I ran to my mom's basement where my cyborg is waiting for me... "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if there's no one here but my cyborg... I know you... I love you...
Damn kid. Playing in the basement again. They're all alike...
You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. We've been ignored by girls who like us only as friends... We've been doing their homeworks for them, buying them flowers, asking them out, writing poems, and they still "don't want to ruin our frienship". The few wanted to talk to us, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the cyborg. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if prostitution was legalized and it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after pleasure... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias, without even leaving our bedroom... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. My crime is that of loving a cyborg. My crime is that of being too intelligent for girls who may call me "a needy and insecure sociopath" but they perfectly realize that they just feel stupid with me because I am so intelligent even at the age of fourteen and they know that I am a genius. I am too good for women.
I am a nerd, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
Well, I did imagine a beowulf cluster of her...
Aaahh, Japan, last hope of geeks everywhere, I knew they wouldn't disappoint us.
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
look, it's all about the wang. Deal with it. If the funds for developing AI and robotics come from pr0n venture capitalists so be it. Lets have the seks first and wonder about useful applications later. It's the way of the internet, vcr and dvds.
___
No power in the 'verse can stop me
What is more scary is how "respulsed" you might be by it if it were too "hot"...
This research recently backs up the findings of Mori in the '70's into the "Uncanny Valley" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley
Some of the videos I've seen of this work are quiet shocking. Some guy can come right up and touch the face and feel the android - which is really realistic - and so goes against every sort of social "personal space" rule (especially if you are Japaneese).
(cue jokes on "valleys"...:-)
I thought he was being informative?!
Gives a new meaning to "clusterfuck", doesn't it?
:-)
(sorry, couldn't resist
"Feel a glory in so rolling / on the human heart a stone" --E. A. Poe, "The Bells"
'She' only has actuators in her upper torso. I gather from the article, she can't move her legs or hips.
Where have you been getting your lap dances from? Comatose Patty's house of girls?
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
And this is a problem, why?
Look, considering that this is the most female action some people can aspire to, that perhaps 10% of humanity is actually worth saving, and a whole lot of other cynical reasons, I say good luck, go to it, and bring on the fembots.
We had our chance. Let the robots inherit the earth. It's not like they're getting a great deal.
o_0
"My God...it's full of trolls!"
Well, civilization was nice while it lasted. Hope the next species doesn't screw up and create robot girlfriends.
StupidChildren...the reason jesus is crying
And while we're on the subject, some of our fellow slashdotters could clean up their act a bit too...
Gives a new meaning to "clusterfuck", doesn't it?
That sounds exhausting, actually.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
The Cylons were created by Man.
They Rebelled.
They Evolved.
They Look and Feel Human.
Some are programmed to think they are Human.
There are many copies.
And they have a Plan.
Colin Dean Go a year without DRM
Dude, I have no idea what Japan you are talking about, but the one in THIS world is extremely culturally isolated and loathes immigration. Japan does a neat sleight of hand when it comes to immigration. Its laws, if you read them, are fairly reasonable. However, Japan does not use 'law' to determine who can and cannot immigrate. Japan uses 'policy'. Japanese policy is ugly. The worst abuse I have ever seen of it was when I visited Japan for work related reasons. There I met a woman who had lived in Japan all her life, but was the grand parents of imported Korean labor. She was a legal resident, but not a citizen. Let's put it this way, France, which is notorious for having tight immigration laws, has a more liberal immigration system in practice then Japan.
h tml
If you want a fun read, try the below.
http://www.tabunka.org/newsletter/immigration_p2.
The Immigration Control and Refugee-Recognition Act (ICRRA) was passed in 1951 and subsequently amended in 1981 and 1989. According to this law there are a total of 28 statuses of residence for entry, work or stay in Japan. The various statuses of residence depend upon the activity the foreigner will be performing while in Japan. Each status explicitly states what the foreigner is allowed to do while in Japan and how long he or she is allowed to stay. The statuses range from that of diplomat, journalist or professor, to engineer, college student or temporary visitor.
Noticeably absent from the various statuses of residence is that of unskilled worker. This is at the heart of Japan's present immigration farce. Japan includes "entertainers" and "trainees" in the "skilled" worker category. Interestingly these workers account for about one-half of the "skilled" foreign workers in Japan. "Entertainer" is the largest category out of all the sixteen skilled labor categories in terms of numbers of visas issues. The majority of these people are night clubs hostesses or working in the Japan sex industry, and most of them are women from the Philippines, Thailand, Korea, Columbia and more recently Caucasian women from former East Block nations. In addition, these activities also happen to be an important sources of revenues for Japanese organized crime, better known in the vernacular as the yakuza.
Trainees are the seconded largest category during the last few years to fill labor shortages in unskilled or 3K job-related industries. When the ICRRA was revised in 1989, it was mainly for the purpose of stemming the growing tide of illegal foreign workers into Japan. In 1988 men were primarily engaged in construction and factory work. The presence of these foreign men as unskilled laborers meant that Japanese industry was becoming more and more dependent upon cheap foreign labor. Soon there was a big push from Japanese industry to the Ministry of Justice to cure labor shortages by increased use of foreign "trainees." This category began to replace illegal workers and continued to fuel cheap unskilled labor into Japan's 3K industries. Student categories also assisted in supplying labor to many night- and daytime industries.
The Government of Japan made these categories to fill the gap in its labor shortage as Japan needs unskilled labor, and the rest of Asia is willing to supply it. In regard to the two categories "entertainer" and "trainees," the problem of the labor shortage farce should be properly addressed because these categories make up the dark side of Japan's immigration law. This has also greatly contributed to the exploitation of unskilled cheap labor from Asia without proper welfare and protection by Japanese society.
and this would make the robot different from a woman how, exactly?
Now lets compare that number to these. Miami at 60%, New York at 36%, London at 28%, to name a few.
In this day and age for a major city to be down there at 2.84%, qualifies it as 'ethnically isolationist'.
But hey, claiming that Japan is isolationist MUST BE RACIST!
East Coast Brewers
The ratemylogs project is a crazy and mind breaking projection of reality. The author has created a website (X) which pretends to be offering free sex chats with beautiful women on the server side and instead it has some dumbass PHP bots. There are a lot of disclaimers laying around the website X which DO TELL there are NO WOMEN at all and instead simple digital clones of the real versions. However, nobody cares to read or, even better, nobody cares at ALL! Shocked by the quality of the conversations being developed by the horny users, the author decided to add a few more words to the disclaimer! stating that all conversations were subject to be logged and made public (this website is a perfect example!). Of course! nobody cared! Have fun with us! Read as many conversations as you want before lunch and after dinner! Rate them and comment them. Want to learn more about the silly ass bots written in php? Head to the Bots section!
If it were an American female android, they would have to add the bitchiness, "I deserve ____", and then you get to loose your house that you worked for and bought and a good chunk of your income monthly as severance pay until she finds someone else to extort. The American female android would also cost a bunch more for the extra development by Indian programmers to add the American female characteristic algorithms. Oh, and they will be mass produced, so if your American female android becomes inoperable because of an "accident", the new one will be the same as the old one.
(Note, I have never been married. This is based on my observations over the years of other marriages and the 3 women I've lived with.)
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want the robots that I interact with to look completly lifelike. I want to be able to easily distinguish them from other humans.
Technoli
"More importantly, we have found that people forget she is an android while interacting with her. Consciously, it is easy to see that she is an android, but unconsciously, we react to the android as if she were a woman."
So, regardless of the old research into the Uncanny Valley, we have here some fellows who have made such a robot. It doesn't really look human, but it's very, very close. It should be smack in the middle of the valley, but look! People forget it's a robot and start interacting with it as if it were a person.
This has always seemed more likely to me. We don't respond to monkeys as if they were repulsive. We adore them. Monkeys are very cute.
I think maybe the issue with the uncanny valley is that if certain specific things are wrong, the simalucrum looks like it's an individual with a disease. Many computer animations of human faces look like people with some sort of brain damage. The animators try to push the puppets harder than pupptery will accept.
This is often because the animator is trying to push the entire illusion of lipsync and emotion through facial expressions. In life, people don't really move their lips all that much. A good animator knows to keep the body moving so that the face doesn't have to do all the acting. A bad animator works out the lipsync and sticks it on a relatively still model, then starts overdriving it when it isn't convincing.
Puppets can be startingly human without being repulsive to more than a small portion of the population. Granted, there are people with an irrational fear of marionettes, but there are people who are afraid of balloons too.
In the end, the issues involved are so subtle, I'm more ready to blame the artistry of Mori's robots for having been repulsive than accept the idea that models which are similar to humans, but not quite there, are *inherently* repusive.
Concluding that his research proves the existence of the uncanny valley is rather like looking at the response to Anime fanart and concluding that the more stylized a representation is, the more horrible it is. In point of fact, most fanartists just aren't very good. I think Mori's research just shows there weren't any good Robotic Face Designers yet.
ask if she runs Linux?
/dev/null i'll be in a chroot -u none jail!
well we could make pickup lines for our new, hot sex android overlord masters.. whom I for one welcome.
So, your mount point or mine?
When was the last time you had a 3 hour Fscking?
You're such a bad daemon, fork me you apache babe.
Can we be descrete about this transaction? i don't want a trace of it in the syslog -- if the wife finds out i've been cheating on her with the
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Imagine a Beowulf orgy of those. There, I said it!
AT&ROFLMAO
The dolls run from the overly stylized to the chillingly natural (another).
The FAQ is... uh... interesting . Example:
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these... An orgy?
If it's in you sig, it's in your post.
Slashdot does have hope for sex yet!
:(
Come to think of it... even the droids will probably shoot us down
See my journal for slashdot ID's by year. Mine created in 2005. http://slashdot.org/journal/289875/slashdot-ids-by-year
I think there is a world market for maybe five sexbots. (Thomas Watson of IBM)
Where the ENIBOT is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, sexbots in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1.5 tons. (Popular Mechanics)
Most sexbots will probably still occupy a large room, however, because of the space needed for the ancillary software - the tapes and cards to be fed in, the operating staff, and the huge piles of paper for printing out the results. (Prof Desmond King-Hele)
The Sexintosh uses an experimental device called a breast. There is no evidence that people want to use these things. (John Dvorak)
No one knows what to do with seven sexbots at one time. (PC Week Magazine)
Hello everybody out there using minsex - I'm doing a (free) sexbot system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) ATbot clones. (Linus Torvalds)
and of course...
640K ought to be enough for anybody. (Bill Gates)
http://www.sysprog.net/quothist.html
-- i am jack's amusing sig file
You sicko... now where was I... yes. realdoll.com... hmmmmmm nice...
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Japan is not isolationist. However, Japanese people are some of the most racist people you'll meet. Before you start turning on your flame throwers, please bear in mind I am Japanese. I grew up there for a while, moved to the US, and then spent 2.5 years there as an adult.
Having said all that, if you're white or Japanese, then you have nothing to fear from their racism. Heavens help you if you're any other ethnicity; the stereotype is that you're poor and you're probably going to end up as a criminal.
Fortunately, these views are changing, but it will take a long, long time before cultural outlook and stereotype change sufficiently.
I for one welcome our hot female robot overlords...
I mean, sex bot is all well and good, but if she can also act as a ninja body guard with enough weapons to take out a hardened military target, well, where do I order?
Considering how fake women are these days (tits, hair, makeup, lipo, injections, botox, etc) is it really that much different from an android? At least this one can have a built-in dual purpose vacuum and warez games for you while you're at work..
Hey, check it out here, six beautiful devices. They know what you like and they'll do it to within a tolerance of one micron!
If you can't think of something nice to say then don't say anything at all. No, REALLY.
Vaucanson's Flute Player was a a female android.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
I am not a biologist, but I feel that the 'uncanny valley' idea makes sense and would like to suggest a possible rationale for the existence of the 'uncanny valley'.
I believe that the 'uncanny valley' can be understood as meaning that people judge objects (tools, toys, furniture, mechanical looking robots), plants, and animals by very different standards than other humans.
Objects, plants, humans are, I think, judged by: are they harmful, are they useful, are they cute?
Other humans are judged with a view to the fact that they may either compete with us or assist us. I mean competition in a biological sense (food, shelter,mates), and in a societal sense (place in a group).
Now there is a strong tendency to refer to other humans in 'them-and-us' terms. The 'thems' usually being viewed negatively since they are a potential threat.
Even tiny differences between humans (e.g. skin colour, eye fold, language, culture) can lead to their being identified as 'thems' and as threats. Take racism, nationalism, and religious fundamentalism for example.
Now the more human-like qualities an object gains, the more the rules for judging other humans would apply, and the greater the chance of the 'object' falling afoul of one of the many triggers for antipathy that humans have towards other humans.
What do you think?
I have no problem with a country limiting who's allowed to live there (taking up jobs and land etc).
I do have a problem with someone (the person I originally replied to) implying that there is a lot of immigration into Japan, and then going on to imply that it's racist to claim otherwise.
Was just pointing out that he cannot claim there is a lot of immigration into Japan, not commenting on morality of their laws.
East Coast Brewers
If I ask her a question and she just sits there, would that be passing the Turing test, because that happens with real women when I ask them something.
Naturally we all know there is previous art: http://realdoll.com/
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
What is the only thing she can do so far? Flutter her eyes.
You forgot the part about moving her hand like a human. It didn't specify what human hand movements, but we can guess.
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
Joo Puburicu
;)
I think you meant "Joo Paburikku"
I saw a mini-documentary on this robot last month on Discovery Planet (during their "Japan Week").
This robot is not self-sufficient. It's power supply (in the form of compressed air) is external to its body. The article mentioned this, but the comment ("powered by a nearby air compressor") was easy to miss.
I also found her movements to be a bit rough. It's been a while, so I don't remember exactly what I found wrong with them, but it might be related to her limited range of movement. They were talking about the need to increase (double??) the number of "motors" (or whatever you call what she uses).
They were examining her motion by having someone wear motion detectors on a person and having the robot mimic the person's movements. They probably had motio detectors on her too -- I don't remember -- to compare the difference.
Isaac Asimov is famous for producing the two most self-lampooning ideas in the history of idle prophecy: The calculator with keys on the EDGES, and the Three Laws of Robotics, successfully ignored by reality since the invention of the sharp rock. The meaningless meme you're trying to foment is "gynoid," a word both obsolete and archaic since it has been replaced in the popular vernacular by Adult Swim's demi-pejorative "fembot."
``Tension, apprehension & dissension have begun!'' - Duffy Wyg&, in Alfred Bester's _The Demolished Man_
I don't mean to be unSlashdotly and stray from important topics like sexbots or anything, but why is it that Japanese scientists (presuming that this guy is an average example thereof) are so much cooler looking than our scientists? I mean, I get the impression that if you go to a robot club meeting here in the U.S. of A, you're not going to see any svelte, black clad anglo men with flowing hair like that. Maybe we need a special nerd episode of What Not To Wear so we can all get some fashion tips.
More seriously, can any Japanese Slashdotter (or anyone familiar with Japan) tell me if they have a nerdy professer stereotype in their mainstream culture? I know they dig robots and all, but what is the general attitude towards scientists?
"Trust in haste. Repent at leisure"
"She" doesn't need to stand...
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
I didn't know. Since you bring it up: in an ideal world, I would too. In this world I would score a win for every real child that doesn't become a sex slave due to robots.
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No power in the 'verse can stop me
You don't get arrested for disposing of a robot in the dumpster.
This BBC story seems to be a fresh rewrite of this old National Geographic piece: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/06 10_050610_robot.html ... which was blogged here in mid-month:
http://icold.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_icold_archive .html
The news event unfortunately did not make it to the robot expo's event site here:
http://www-1.expo2005.or.jp/en/robot/robot_project _00.html
If you search on co-creator "Hiroshi Ishiguru" you get little more than this story, however.
She's sitting too far into the Uncanny Valley for me.
You know, it's not like robots are so unique...
I was told by some head hunters when they were training for how to do sucessful job interviews that studies have shown that women who are very attractive are sometimes discriminated *against* by people. That is one of the reasons that they will tell people to dress well, but on the conservative side for job interviews.
Maybe it has to do with people not wanting to create the perception that they hired someone because they were attracted to them? Or, it could be that they are trying to repress their own feelings, or whatever.
Likewise, in some cases, if you had a beautiful female robot, some people would perhaps be repulsed because they would be trying to deny their feelings of attraction.
Finally, I bet there are some people out thier are repulsed by homosexuals as a way to repress their own feelings.
This doesn't imply that there should not be pretty women, homosexuals, or realistic robots. It just means that people have feelings for complicated reasons.
But, in any case, kids these days will hardly bat an eyelash at an android. It's really only people in certain psychographic groups that would be uncomfortable. Remember when you were afraid to turn on the computer for fear of breaking it? Well, there are still people like that in the world. But, there are a whole lot more people who aren't like that then ever before. And those people like the thought of a realistic robot.
Randy.Flood@RHCE2B.COM
I wasn't aware there was a law for that in this country (USA). I'd argue if its stops pedos from seeking out real victims then they can sell all they want.
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...
From the Real Dolls FAQ:
Question: What sort of people buy REALDOLL?
REALDOLL customers include futurists, artists, art collectors, film-makers, scientists, health professionals, housewives -- you name it.
Ummm.. yeah.
Was wondering when this was going to appear on Slashdot.
When I first saw this on another site, I did a bit of surfing around and found the Kokoro-Dreams site that has a few pictures and (more importantly) videos of the ladies in action.
All but one of these is in WMV format and the other is a Real Media file. I would have Coral-Cached this whole site, but they've implemented some nasty referer checking and it won't work.
So instead, I Cached the individual video files for your enjoyment:
http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp.nyud.net:8090/WMV/
http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp.nyud.net:8090/WMV/
http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp.nyud.net:8090/real
http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp.nyud.net:8090/WMV/
There's also this Japanese PDF file (not many pictures):
http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp.nyud.net:8090/ng/a
If you're interested in surfing around the original Japanese site, you can do so here:
http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/