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Another New Serenity Trailer

CABridges writes "Brand new U.S. trailer for Serenity debuted on the SciFi channel tonight, and went online immediately afterwards. A combination of the first trailer and the international trailer, with more new stuff lines. Spoiler virgins beware: some plot is revealed."

175 comments

  1. Can't wait by TheShadowHawk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't wait for this film.

    I still put a weekly curse on the executives who cancelled the TV series before it could find it's feet.

    Serenity NOW!
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    1. Re:Can't wait by bigman2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was in some stupid 'team building' meeting at work the other day. It was one of those things where they hired a motivational speaker to come in and tell us all how to be good people.

      At one point, the speaker was talking about the 'Serenity Poem' and asked if anyone knew it.

      So, I raised my hand, and I was sitting there thinking, "Oh yeah, I know that one!"

      The instructor called on someone else, and she recited the "God give me the serenity to accept things I cannot change...blah blah blah..."

      Whoops, I'm glad she didn't call on me...because I really thought she was looking for the, "Serenity Now, Serenity Now, Serenity Now" mantra from George's dad on Seinfeld.

      That probably would have looked stupid...

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    2. Re:Can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      > That probably would have looked stupid...

      You were in a rah-rah meeting, and worrying about looking stupid? Words escape me, I can't even think of a bod metaphore....

    3. Re:Can't wait by aliens · · Score: 1

      You could've taken it a step further even, after making the joke you could have gotten up and left. Just like George started doing after his one good joke.

      "Thank you and goodnight!"

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    4. Re:Can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw an unfinished version of the movie last week at a film festival and it was excellent. The girl I took was an Angel fan but had no knowledge of Firefly. She liked the movie more than I did.
      I hope they bring back the series.

    5. Re:Can't wait by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      I personally think it's just one of those series with GREAT trailers and ads, but once they come out they're crap or just can't interest me.

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    6. Re:Can't wait by Pedrito · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's the Serenity "Prayer", not "Poem." The Serenity Prayer originated in an obituary in 1942 and was later adopted by Alcoholics Anonymous (and later, other twelve-step programs) as a part of the program.

    7. Re:Can't wait by filekutter · · Score: 1

      I agree wholeheartedly, I CAN"T WAIT !!! And, may I also point out that because it was at the end of another episode of Battlestar Galactica I am sorely pressed to find another hour of TV that was so richly stocked with EVERYTHING I wanted. Thank you Battlestar, thank you Joss. Yes, i'm a Browncoat... I admit it.

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    8. Re:Can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have given you a standing ovation!

    9. Re:Can't wait by Hrothgar+The+Great · · Score: 1

      Thanks, Captain Explain-O! Your relentless courage has SAVED THE EARTH from CONFUSION over a joke some guy told on Slashdot! Even though the distinction between the prayer and the poem was clearly the entire point of that guy's joke, your quick explanation of the obvious may have saved THOUSANDS.

    10. Re:Can't wait by Rei · · Score: 1

      Huh, I would have thought that the Serenity Poem would have started out with something like "Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand..." or "He robbed from the rich and gave to the poor, stood up to the man and gave him what for..." or something along those lines. :)

      Obligatory fortune-mod firefly link.

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    11. Re:Can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoah, you must be zippy!

    12. Re:Can't wait by cfuse · · Score: 1
      I was in some stupid 'team building' meeting at work the other day. It was one of those things where they hired a motivational speaker to come in and tell us all how to be good people.

      I hate 'team building'.

      My personal favorite is the activity where you're supposed to image you are in a boat in an emergency and you've got a list of things to keep/discard. I always keep the most valuable thing and tell the others that I would eat them so that I would be both well fed and rich when I was rescued.

    13. Re:Can't wait by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

      At a work seminar you have people teaching religious* poetry? Wow.....if that happened where I worked, I'd be disturbed and surprised.

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  2. Download link? by Omicron32 · · Score: 1

    Anyone got a downloadable link?

    1. Re:Download link? by mboverload · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/t railer_2/large.html

      Not downloadable, but it actually works, unlike the one on the site. At least for me.

    2. Re:Download link? by NetNifty · · Score: 3, Informative
    3. Re:Download link? by cerebis · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else hug the utility of wget and strings when attempting to overcome streaming links? :)

    4. Re:Download link? by mboverload · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also, if you would like the play the trailer outside of the webpage and fullscreen use this Firefox extension. http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/mediapla yerconnectivity Although VLC will play it outside I suggest Quicktime because it looks like it is the only player that buffers the stream. You can stretch the video to as big as your screen, which is really cool.

    5. Re:Download link? by 3vi1 · · Score: 1
      Follow the source, it always knows! And... uh, peak in the fake .mov redirector they throw in.

      Large Version Here

    6. Re:Download link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    7. Re:Download link? by ArmorFiend · · Score: 1

      Interesting extension.

      I have a somewhat related mozilla question.

      It often happens that web pages hosting PDFs and whatnot rig the links to open in a new window. With firefox this is a pain, because you click the link, an empty browser window comes up, then download manager comes up, then xpdf comes up. 4 windows for one damn document! I found the pref to cause download manager to not pop up, but I was wondering if you know of any way to get the empty browser window to not come up?

    8. Re:Download link? by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      You do know you can have VLC buffer pretty much anything right? It's one of the settings when you open a file, filestream, etc. I use it all the time to stream DVD ISO files across my wireless network. Due to phones, microwaves, etc. you occasionally need 20 seconds or so of buffering for a DVD.

      VLC really takes the idea of "everything's a file" to a neat level with media. Everything can be an input and everything can be an output. Transcode, stream, buffer, etc. If you can open it with VLC, you can also save it into whatever else you want or stream it to wherever you want.

    9. Re:Download link? by filekutter · · Score: 1

      Here is the trailer that was run at the end of Battlestar Galactica last night. Yes, rite clik/save as... http://movies.apple.com/movies/universal/serenity/ serenity-tlr2_m480.mov

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    10. Re:Download link? by sflory · · Score: 1

      Get the pdf download extension from the extension site. It will popup a windows ask if you want to download it or open in a new page.

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    11. Re:Download link? by Bob_Robertson · · Score: 1

      May thanks. The first trailer was easy to find, this one was invisible.

      Bob-

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    12. Re:Download link? by Ravadill · · Score: 1

      Just a note that the one on extensionroom is several versions out of date... the latest version is at the authors site:

      http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/

  3. Shiny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shiny! :D

  4. Out of sync by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one for whom the video runs about double-speed while the audio plays normally? Any suggestions on how to watch the trailer with sync?

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    1. Re:Out of sync by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1

      never mind...it's apparently something with my computer.

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    2. Re:Out of sync by TommydCat · · Score: 1

      Try turning off the Turbo switch?

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    3. Re:Out of sync by Linus+Torvaalds · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have you been overclocking your eyes again?

    4. Re:Out of sync by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean 'underclocking'. Movies look fast if you underclock your eyes. I mean, like, everyone knows that dude.

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  5. For those who cannot 'view source' on teh intarweb by tod_miller · · Score: 2, Informative

    Downloadable link

    Right click 'Save Link As...'

    To confirm you're not a script,
    please type the word in this image: arrack

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  6. Quote by superid · · Score: 2

    "This is going to get interesting"
    "define 'interesting'"
    "oh god, oh god we're all going to die?"

    Loved the delivery, can't wait to see this :)

    1. Re:Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what I hate about Firefly?

      The intro.

      Its a hackneyed western homage that really makes the series sound ... bad.

      Lets see whats wrong with it.

      1. Lyrics in a scifi series. strike one.
      2. Horrible lyrics at that. strike two.
      3. Country music lyrics. good freaking god.

      I'd pay good money to have them change that so where I didn't cringe every time I hear "You can't take the sky from me!"

      No wonder nobody watched it..

    2. Re:Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what I hate about Firefly?

      It wasn't the Bachelor, So you think you can Dance, or Real World? People like you didn't watch it because they like shitty TV.

      My word was dilute.

    3. Re:Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a fucking idiot.

      I watched firefly. I loved it.

      Its not perfect, and the one thing that stands out the fucking most was that god awful intro.

      My complaints were not a pot-shot at Firefly, and it wasn't a troll.

      However, your reply was.

      It wasn't the Bachelor, So you think you can Dance, or Real World? People like you didn't watch it because they like shitty TV.

      Keep making excuses for why people don't watch it. "They must suck! Yeah, thats it!"

      Enterprise suffered a similar fate. And I'm sure they said the same thing "People must be watching crap instead! This shit is perfect, P E R F E C T!"

    4. Re:Quote by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that must be it. Enterprise was cancelled because it had lyrics in the theme.

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    5. Re:Quote by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      To each their own. I like the intro. I've even been known to hum the line that makes you cringe. And I'm not even a fan of country music.

    6. Re:Quote by varmittang · · Score: 1

      Take my love, take my land
      Take me where I cannot stand
      I don't care, I'm still free
      You can't take the sky from me
      Take me out to the black
      Tell them I ain't comin' back
      Burn the land and boil the sea
      You can't take the sky from me
      There's no place I can be
      Since I found Serenity
      But you can't take the sky from me...

      MP3 of the song

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  7. The real question is... by WebHostingGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How much money does the film have to make before they bring back the series?

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    1. Re:The real question is... by coop0030 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure, but I'll do my part and watch it in theaters 3 times or more.

      I really, really want this series to make a comeback (ala Family Guy).

      This was one of the first Sci-Fi series I truly enjoyed on TV. The characters were simply engaging, and always left me wanting more.

      It is truly an amazing show.

    2. Re:The real question is... by Adrilla · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From what I remember from previous stories, there's contracts with the tv show producers that wont let it comeback on tv for something like 10 years. But there is a 3 picture deal, so the question is "How much money does it have to make to get a sequel?"

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    3. Re:The real question is... by maxume · · Score: 1

      Not enough. In order for there to be a television series again, the film company has to pass on thier option for a second film...

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    4. Re:The real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that's accurate. IIRC, Fox owns the TV rights for 10 years. So, either Fox is convinced to bring back the TV series, or some other network negotiates to buy the rights from Fox.

    5. Re:The real question is... by WickedClean · · Score: 1

      I think I'd rather have a trilogy of great movies first, then maybe do a mini-series out of it. The series would be pretty expensive to keep going for a while, plus it would be a step down to go from a big movie back to a series.

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    6. Re:The real question is... by thiophene · · Score: 1

      Actually, in the special features on the DVD, they comment about how cheap this series was to produce. And I have to admit, I would have guessed otherwise, because it is done so well.

    7. Re:The real question is... by Snaller · · Score: 1

      No, there no such contracts, but people keep posting the false rumour.

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  8. Having downloaded it (see link post) by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    I would say it looks ok, the 'science' part seems (on the surface, pun intended) a little shallow - and the effects look like starwars episode 4 (the dodging of shots on the moving hover vehicles).

    But, that aside, I hope the acting and story can push this into a mainstream audience, and perhaps even entertain!

    Aside from this, the 'unique future' seems a little cliche actually, and tired formula, are there any new concepts in this?

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    1. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by Beowulfto · · Score: 1

      The literal "Old West" motif intrigues me. Everything from characterization, to actions, and even the costumes. I watched the end of the series pilot on SciFi last-night and enjoyed it. Whedon's writing is still great ("You want to run this ship?"..."Yeah!"...."Well,.......you can't") and the casting/acting are very good. I have high hopes, both for the movie, and that success will lead SciFi to add it to their catalog of great original shows.

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    2. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by SamSim · · Score: 1

      The science part IS shallow and this is intentional. How the ship actually moves from star system to star system is not just totally unknown but utterly irrelevant to the story. All that matters is that it does - or sometimes, it breaks down, and they need spare parts. The emphasis of the story of Firefly is on the people and how they interact, not on scientific babble.

      In this respect it is, indeed, very much like Star Wars. There's been a lot written about "the science of Star Wars", but in the movies themselves, there's very little attempt to explain how e.g. the Death Star or lightsabers actually work. In fact the one time Lucas tried to actually provide some sort of explanation for the Force (the midichlorians thing), it proved to be a bad move and was almost universally panned. Sometimes it's better to leave things to fantasy. The technology you use in a story is completely secondary to the story itself. This is true of all science fiction.

    3. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. Try reading some Greg Egan - there is a lot of technobabble in places but the interesting bit, the actual science fiction, is his exploration of what it would be like to be "uploaded", i.e. existing as an artificial intelligence in a virtual world, running on a computer in the real world. It's very mind expanding.

      Science fiction - the investigation of how advances in science will affect society through fiction. Not just same-old-shit-but-with-spaceships; though that's the definition Hollywood and a lot of writers use.

    4. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aside from this, the 'unique future' seems a little cliche actually, and tired formula, are there any new concepts in this?

      By "any new concepts" do you mean something, anything besides the beaten-to-death-and-beyond Pandora's Box concept? No. But it's an action flick, they usually don't break new ground anyhow -- and as such, I'd say it's better than most of what you've seen this summer (for one thing, it comes without any cheesy political commentary couched in excruciatingly crude, self-refuting philosophy).

      Go see it, it's good enough so that you won't feel like you got conned into it by some anonymous poster on Slashdot who did CGI on the first movie and wants to work on the sequels.

    5. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The technology you use in a story is completely secondary to the story itself. This is true of all science fiction.

      Q: How many sci-fi characters does it take to change a light bulb?

      A: Two. One to change it, and the other to say, "As you know, Dave, the light bulb was invented by Thomas Edison in the latter half of the 19th Century, after experimenting with over 1500 different kinds of filament..."

      (yes, the technobabble is inaccurate; that's part of the joke)

    6. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by kyhwana · · Score: 1

      Except they get sound right. No sound in space/vacuum!

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    7. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by CABridges · · Score: 1

      I'd say that's a little narrow. Some writers, as you mentioned, use science and use it well, writing their stories about how people deal with the changed society. Some write about the society thus changed, without dwelling on the actual science that brought on the change (John Varley, for example).

    8. Re:Having downloaded it (see link post) by Kuros_overkill · · Score: 1

      unique, cliche, tired, formula hu? What...

      "One of these things is not like the others
      One of these things just doesn't belong
      One of these things is not like the others
      Something, something, before I finish this song...
      er... Sorry about that. Anyway, let me get to my point... you are tired of unique because it is cliche, tired and formulaic... you instead whant tired cliched and formulaic... er... I think my head just exploded!

  9. Gotta say it... by The+I+Shing · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shiny!

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  10. Re:For those who cannot 'view source' on teh intar by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1, Informative

    Nice gesture, wrong trailer.

    That file is trailer 1.

    The one this story is about is trailer 2.

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  11. Trailer 2 Download link by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    Trailer 2 here, right click and save file as...

    They had trailer 2 above trailer 1, a bit counter intuitive... (or not for bloggites).

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  12. (WORKING):Trailer 2 Download link by tod_miller · · Score: 4, Informative

    Without typo link - fsk it!!!

    Yeah, I typo'd it seeing if I could get a higher res version...

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  13. no download there i'm afraid by bani · · Score: 1

    thats not the trailer download link. thats the mov metafile.

  14. superheros by Nick+Mitchell · · Score: 1

    i guess it looks kinda fun

    it reminds me that one of the neat things about the movie Aliens was
    how the hero didn't overcome by some inherent, over even trained,
    super skills. in fact, it is the inherently skilled (the android
    bishop) or trained ones who all die. it's so rare to have superheros
    these days that overcome through perseverance and wisdom and intuition
    (not knowing fancy fighting skills like they show in the Serenity
    trailer, or how to build things or hotwire --- just knowing what makes
    sense to do at any one time)

    i also liked the whole inverted parenting themes (super corporations
    and military as caretakers; the aliens breeding by growing inside of
    foreign hosts, ripley being a good mother to someone she doesn't even
    know)

    but serenity looks like it might be fun

    1. Re:superheros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...one of the neat things about the movie Aliens was how the hero didn't overcome by some inherent, over even trained, super skills... it's so rare to have superheros these days that overcome through perseverance and wisdom and intuition...

      But doesn't that "overcome through perseverance and wisdom and intuition" - rather than through talent or skill - describe Captain Reynolds perfectly?

  15. Cool Sci Fi shows and cancellations by Ohmster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Serenity definitely looks cool. With a broadband internet, we may be entering a time when cool, emerging shows dont get cancelled because they cannot find a big enough audience on TV or cable. Remember Star Trek was cancelled in the sixties for that reason and brought back via movies because of a core, but economically small audience. With the internet, audiences can be smaller and still allow the producers and distributors to make a profit. The day of broadband doing an end run around cable and TV are near. More here: http://mp.blogs.com/mp/2005/07/on_broadband_co.htm l

    1. Re:Cool Sci Fi shows and cancellations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, there's a profitable business - cater to jobless slashdotters still living with their parents or dorm room, who pirate everything. That'll pay the bills.

  16. No audio? by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

    I'm trying to play this on SuSE9.3 with mplayer and the codecs package. The video is perfect, but the audio is absent. Anyone have any suggestions?

    1. Re:No audio? by keesh · · Score: 1

      Compile your own mplayer, or switch to a distribution that ships a non-crippled build. It's fine in mplayer 1.0_pre7 on Gentoo.

    2. Re:No audio? by nutshell42 · · Score: 1
      You need the correct codecs. In this case you need the windows codec pack from the mplayer homepage (there is an open source decoder for the video which is why you only lack sound). If SuSE's compiled mplayer with support for win32 codecs you only need to install the codec pack and it will play. If they didn't you'll also have to recompile mplayer.

      If you don't have a PC but something else you're out of luck afaik.

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    3. Re:No audio? by unigolyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I can't play a movie trailer" "Compile mplayer or switch distributions" Well, that does it. Linux just hit critical desktop mass.

    4. Re:No audio? by Requiem · · Score: 1

      Try Totem? I use it for all my video needs on Linux, and it seems to work with everything but .wmv.

    5. Re:No audio? by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      No kidding.

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  17. Huh? by healy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe it's time to turn in my Geek card, but I fail to see the appeal of this. I'm a sci-fi nut & tried to watch the show when it was on but I thought it was some of the lamest acting and plot I'd ever seen. It was like a really bad western in space. I can't see why people are drooling over this movie coming out. I liked Buffy as much as the next person, but this seemed really weak to me.

    People on slashdot have an orgasm every time this movie is mentioned...I just don't get it.

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    1. Re:Huh? by PenguinOpus · · Score: 5, Insightful


      Watch the DVD set in its intended order and the show is much easier to appreciate. The apparently really botched it when they aired it originally. Another reason to pray for the (corporate) deaths of the executives at Fox who managed this.

      (I watched 7 seasons of Buffy on DVD and the found Firefly on DVD and really enjoyed it)

    2. Re:Huh? by healy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I love the mods...ANY criticism MUST equal Flaimbait. Sheesh.

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    3. Re:Huh? by dentar · · Score: 1

      Other than The X-Files, Fox couldn't sci-fi its way out of a paper bag! They've tried many times to sustain a sci-fi show and almost had it with "Millennium" and in the end screwed that one up too. Time slot is everything!!

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    4. Re:Huh? by Rayston · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have learned to just agree to disagree with opinions like this. You think the first 3 seasons of buffy were the best? I liked them the least. I thought the plot really got good and interesting after that, I think fireflys plot was the absoloute best series joss ever did, and possibly the best series on TV.

      Neither of us are "wrong". Its just a difference in taste, I like the exact kinds of plots that you apparently dislike.

      Ever heard of the Series "A song of Ice and Fire" by George R.R Martin? Its a plot intrigue fantasy book. I LOVE this series. I recommended it to a friend, not really thinking about his normal taste in books. He hated all the plot intrigue and deception stuff, I couldnt relate, the whole reason I liked the books in the first place was the intrigue and deception angle, which is exactly what he hated about it.

      Difference of opinion, I think stuff like that is good, he didnt.

      You think the "monster of the week" and dramatic love story of angel buffy that were the focus in seasons 1-3 were good. I think they were overdone and some of joss's most "just okay" work.

      I like the plots and characters presented after season 3 for various reasons, you apparently think they were weak.

      Thats ok.

      we simply dont like the same things.

      I hate when the "geek" community gets in a silly argument about which scifi show is better, sometimes theres truly atrocious shows that noone with any taste should consider, but far more often theres just different scifi for different people. Me? Ill take my western in space and have fun thank you very much.

      Thanx

      Rayston

    5. Re:Huh? by SilentShriek · · Score: 1

      It was like a really bad western in space.

      I think the cross-genre campiness is part of the appeal.

    6. Re:Huh? by rikkards · · Score: 1

      I think the problem with Millenium was that it was based around Y2K . Once that passed it was doomed.

      Just started watching Firefly and am truly enjoying it. I suspect that we will see the movie as well.

    7. Re:Huh? by Zurion · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with PenguinOpus. I had the same opinion until I borrowed the DVD's from a friend. After watching them all in order I was hooked.

      The character development in this series was much more involved and enjoyable than some of the storylines. In fact, I can't think of any other television show that's had as many characters with as detailed (or mysterious) backgrounds. However, I think the network cut the series before anyone had a chance to get a feel for anything.

    8. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fail to see the appeal of this. I'm a sci-fi nut & tried to watch... I can't see why people are drooling... I liked Buffy...

      Well, people do say that this is different from Whedon's other stuff. I hate hate hate Buffy, but I like Firefly.

    9. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Fine, you don't get it. Just means one less person I have to worry about being ahead of me in line on opening day.

      Now go away.

    10. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll get flamed for this, but you don't have to like it. And that's OK. I didn't like Buffy the brain-cell slayer series.

    11. Re:Huh? by mkv · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe it's time to turn in my Geek card, but I fail to see the appeal of this. I'm a sci-fi nut & tried to watch the show when it was on but I thought it was some of the lamest acting and plot I'd ever seen. It was like a really bad western in space. I can't see why people are drooling over this movie coming out. I liked Buffy as much as the next person, but this seemed really weak to me.

          Some wise guy once said "opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one" and I have to agree with the smarta*s.. To me, Firefly was a great show that combined all my favourite elements from SciFi, comedy and westerns with a funny plot and a couple foxy chicks into what turned out to be one of my all-time favourite tv shows. I really wanted to murder somebody when I found out there were no more of it coming.
          Talking about Buffy, I fail to see it's appeal tho'.. never liked that kind of generic blondes.

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    12. Re:Huh? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I'm with the original poster on this one. I haven't seen the TV show, and the movie just looks like your standard cheesy B-grade sci-fi fair. It'll probably be a fun, entertaining show much like The Chronicles of Riddick - but if you're looking for an actual good movie look elsewhere.

    13. Re:Huh? by dorsey · · Score: 1

      Ah, I love guys like you... "I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm not going to let that stop me from vomiting up an opinion anyway."

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    14. Re:Huh? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1
      Watch the DVD set in its intended order and the show is much easier to appreciate. The apparently really botched it when they aired it originally.

      This is one idea that I guess I don't share with many Firefly fans. I watched the series in its air-date order... and liked it.

      I liked the first episode. It was fairly light and action-packed. It introduced the characters, provided a bit of a feel for who and what they are, and also hinted at existing relationships between them. Why they behaved the way they did was a mystery that I enjoyed. By the time I saw the 2-part Serenity episode, it was a treat to get a (somewhat) complete back-story of the cast. The mysteries left standing were even more intrigueing.
    15. Re:Huh? by toddestan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Ah, I love guys like you... "I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm not going to let that stop me from vomiting up an opinion anyway."

      And I love people like you, who think that I have to read all the Harry Potter books to have a valid opinion the Harry Potter movies - or that I have to watch all episodes of Star Trek before my opinion of Nemesis has any weight. Usually the term "fanboy" is reserved for people like this.

      My opinion is the opinion of someone who hasn't seen the TV show. What's wrong with that? If the movie is only going to appeal to people who watched the TV series, it's going to flop as the TV series had low ratings and got canceled fairly quickly. In other words, this movie is going to have to be able to stand on its own. You can bet that whoever is making this movie cares about what people like me think. Not that they probably read slashdot though.

    16. Re:Huh? by Forthan+Red · · Score: 1

      That's because it was a really bad western in space. And with Deadwood and Galactica showing us how well each genera can be done, it looks even worse. That's probably why the whole "western" aspect of the series was removed from the most recent trailer. That's not to say it doesn't remain in the actual film. Time will tell.

    17. Re:Huh? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      I felt similar but then I watched the show in order.

      It made a big difference for me and now I'm a fan.

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    18. Re:Huh? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      'You think the "monster of the week" and dramatic love story of angel buffy that were the focus in seasons 1-3 were good.'

      Yoiks! Is that all you got out of seasons 1-3? How about a non-castrated Spike, and Drusilla in their prime? How about Angelus? The mayor was a fantastic villain, and Faith added an interesting dimension.

      Not trying to get in a flame war (thus I shall resist the urge to criticize seasons 4-7 ;), and I certainly respect your tastes, but labelling the first three seasons of Buffy "monster of the week" and overdone romance is selling it a bit short, IMHO.

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    19. Re:Huh? by Madoc+Owain · · Score: 1

      I didn't "get" it either when I was having to watch it piece-meal on Fox. I thought "Western in space. I hate westerns. Ooh, 'The Dead Zone' is on!" A friend lent me the Firefly series DVDs a couple of weeks ago and I finally got around to popping them in over the weekend.

      Wow.

      Had me hooked from the pilot episode, which by the way, Fox didn't air as the first ep. If they had, and I had seen it, I would probably have stuck with the series. I'm still singing along with "Jaynestown" in my head :)

      M.O.

    20. Re:Huh? by Kuros_overkill · · Score: 1

      Though I can't speak for the grand-parent,
      I also thought the first three seasons of buffy where the best, I still loved the last four, but: 4 was a bit of a soap opera, 5 was a lot of, oh god, oh god, a big mean, well god, is comming to kill us and we can't do anything about it (repeat x22) and well there was that "non" season, and then 7, though it started out well, turned into anouther, "oh god, oh god, we're are all going to die",
      "See what I Did There" - Willow

      Becoming Prt1/Prt2 is still my all time favorite.

  18. This show was CANCELLED?!?! by kaellinn18 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just recently started watching Firefly from the beginning on the Sci-fi channel (I missed it the first time around). I cannot believe that this show was cancelled! The writing is phenomenal, and the acting is great! Then again, Fox is the network of idiots that cancelled Family Guy. One can only hope that Sci-fi will pick it up if it does well in the Friday time slot. (And also that Fox lets them; isn't there some kind of legal crap there?)

    Regarding the trailer, the best line by far has to be (from memory, so bear with), "Ladies and gentlemen, we could may experience some slight turbulence... and then explode." Perfect delivery. I can't wait for this movie!

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    1. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by jacen_sunstrider · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I rather preferred..."Define interesting." "Oh god, oh god, we're all going to die?"

      As for sci-fi picking it up...from what I read, which is based entirely off comments I've read in other threads, Fox has some kind of insane contract which makes picking ip Firefly impossible; it stipulates there being no new episodes. However, it didn't say anything about a movie, so, here's a movie!

      Someone more informed should correct me about the contract if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's not that far off the mark.

    2. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by The+Barking+Dog · · Score: 1

      I think the bargain was that if the show was to return, it would have to be produced/aired by Fox, and Joss Whedon refuses to ever work with them again (don't know if he meant the Fox network, or 20th Century Fox).

    3. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by SilentShriek · · Score: 1

      If a movie can be made, maybe SciFi could run a miniseries or two, as was initially done with Battlestar. Technically a long movie, not a TV show... ah, pipe dreams.

    4. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by Kesh · · Score: 2, Informative
      One can only hope that Sci-fi will pick it up if it does well in the Friday time slot. (And also that Fox lets them; isn't there some kind of legal crap there?)

      Yep. Fox owns all the rights to Firefly on television, and likely won't give any other channel the rights to pick it up again without paying hordes of cash. Same thing happened with TNT and Babylon 5: Crusade: Sci-Fi wanted to pick it up, TNT demanded way too much money, so it didn't happen.

    5. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not enough political message opportunities.

    6. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by AaronLawrence · · Score: 1

      What a great market that is. Better to kill something than let someone else make a little money on it.

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    7. Re:This show was CANCELLED?!?! by bigpat · · Score: 1

      I just bought and watched (almost all the way through) the dvd series. That is the best television I've ever seen. I'm hooked and want more.

      Makes other television look like crap, which is most likely why they killed it. I mean come on, you air a series out of sequence and expect an instant hit? The promos alone killed it by making it look stupid.

      I remember watching 10 minutes of Mrs. Reynolds and thinking it was silly. But then I watch the whole thing and was blown away. The whole series was witty, smart, hilariously funny at times.

      I'd pay to watch new episodes. Hell, who cares if scifi can't buy the tv rights, put new episodes directly to dvd and I'd buy them.

  19. it's the script... by tyroneking · · Score: 1

    never mind the effects and the acting, they're a minor distraction. If Joss didn't need actors and a set then you'd still get the best bits - the plot and the script. Joss really should try going to radio (whoops! I meant podcasts ;)
    The last bit of the first (?) trailer has a clue to the brilliance of his work. That's why we're all so excited about it.
    Wouldn't it be cool if the production team from the new Battlestar Galactica got together with Joss ...

    1. Re:it's the script... by malex23 · · Score: 1
      "never mind the effects and the acting, they're a minor distraction. If Joss didn't need actors and a set then you'd still get the best bits - the plot and the script."

      So read the X-Men comics he's writing.

    2. Re:it's the script... by ad68 · · Score: 1

      zoic - a studio here in la - does the fx for both bg and serenity. there's a certain amount of shuffling between the two I hear, but it's all lightwave for now.

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    3. Re:it's the script... by Madoc+Owain · · Score: 1

      Watching the extras on the Firefly DVD, I see it pointed out that this series was the first to use the "documentary-style" camera work, to this extent anyway, in CG. Seeing as how BSG uses this now I would say they may have been influenced by Flrefly in some small way..

      M.O.

  20. hm by yathosho · · Score: 0

    whats all this hype about? this somehow looks like tv-series niveau. can anyone explain?

    1. Re:hm by op51n · · Score: 1

      As mentioned in the post displaying above this one, what is looking so incredibly fantastic about this (a month to go, woop) is the fact that Joss Whedon is possibly the best screen writer around. The guy is just phenomenal. And I have to say, he probably became my favourite comic book writer with Fray too.

      If you go back and watch Buffy, and the Joss episodes particularly, you can see just how good he is, but Firefly is something special. I guess I'm also biased in that the setting just felt so right for me.

    2. Re:hm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...this somehow looks like tv-series niveau

      If you don't mean "tv-series level", then you mean "tv-series nouveau".

  21. Thanks for the spoiler warning by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1

    I think I was one of the whiners who complained last time that the first trailer gave away too much. I appreciate the warning this time around. Luckily I now forgot a lot of what happened in the first trailer. Good. I can't wait for the movie!

  22. 8 weeks by deafff · · Score: 0

    8 weeks to go. Aargh.

  23. Above not as OT as it appears by runlvl0 · · Score: 1
    The above comment might look completely off-topic until you realize that he's
    1. actually talking about Alien Resurrection (also known as Alien 4),
    2. which was written (in part) by Joss Whedon, the creator of Firefly (and Serenity, the movie under discussion).
    And yes, Serenity is a lot of fun, right up until the last reel (6/23 preview), which I'm still kind of hoping was a Whedon/Universal fake-out, anyway.

    "Do you know what your sin is?"
    "No, but I'm leaning towards wrath."
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    1. Re:Above not as OT as it appears by unigolyn · · Score: 1

      He's not talking about Alien Resurrection. He's talking about Cameron's Aliens. You know, the one where the trained marines and the artificial Bishop all die and Ripley the space truck driver beats the alien. Lance Henriksen (Bishop) wasn't even in Resurrection, which, unlike Firefly, was a complete POS.

  24. Book? by newswilson · · Score: 1

    Is Shepherd Book in the movie?

    I had heard he wasn't coming back, but IMBD has him on the cast page.

    He also isn't in the trailers.

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    1. Re:Book? by fetta · · Score: 1

      Yes, he's definitely in the new movie. Saw a sneak preview a few weeks ago. To say anything more on the subject would be a spoiler.

      BTW, I liked it, and was a big fan of the series, but it still was a bit of a letdown. One of the joys of the series was the way that Whedon was able to let some of the plot lines develop slowly. In the movie, it ends up feeling rushed by comparison.

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    2. Re:Book? by marcsherman · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen the trailers or a preview yet, so this isn't a spoiler, just a guess. In fact, I'm only 3/4 through the DVDs.

      I'm betting we'll find out what was up with that ident card Book had in Safe. And it won't be good.

    3. Re:Book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMDB knows all!!!!!
      All hail the mighty IMDB!!!

    4. Re:Book? by macraig · · Score: 1

      He is in the movie, but here's another point to consider: he's SIXTY. He was a mature man when he played a character in Barney Miller in the Seventies. I'm older than most Slashdotters, and he's almost old enough to be *my* father, and he's definitely old enough to be the father of virtually everyone else from the original cast. If he doesn't have a huge action-packed role in this movie, maybe it's because he's just not physically up to - or up for - that sort of thing any more. If you recall, his role in the series didn't really place many physical demands on him, not like on his much younger cast members. I doubt if he needs the money.

  25. Rent it, rent it, rent it. by malex23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Rent the DVDs. I cannot stress this enough. Even out of people who saw a couple out-of-sequence airings on Fox and were underwhelmed, I don't know anyone who wasn't blown away by watching the series on DVD. I mean, I'm sure it's not for _everyone_, but if you're reading Slashdot, it's probably for you.

  26. Where is Book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the shepard not in the movie? I've not seen even a glimpse of him in any trailer, or in any of the publicity materials.

  27. What's bugging me... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

    ... is that by the end of then DVD set; it was fairly obvious that the alliance was modding River into some sort of super assassin/warrior chick. This being something so overdone that it's cliche. That made Shepherd Book, to me, a much more enigmatic, and therefore more interesting, character.

    But he's, again, conspicuously absent from a trailer. Yeah, I remember a few trailers ago when someone claimed that you can frame-by-frame it, and see a shot or two of him. I didn't actually bother, because even if he's THERE, it's still obvious that his role is very much reduced. And that's a shame. I think it'd have been more interesting to see what Books past was, and have it catch up to him; than it will be to see River turn into a standard-issue warrior-babe.

    cya,
    john

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    1. Re:What's bugging me... by Lagged2Death · · Score: 1

      ...it was fairly obvious that the alliance was modding River into some sort of super assassin/warrior chick. This being something so overdone that it's cliche.

      Agree completely. I just watched this trailer with the SO, and I said something like "It's not enough that she's a Super-Genius with psychic powers? She has to know kung-fu too? Cripes, she's Superman! What does she even need the rest of the gang for?"

      Suddenly it the movie starts to look like Fists Of Buffy In Spaaaaaace!

      But that's what's selling at the box office today, I guess.

  28. I'd just like to say... by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

    Eeeeeeee!

    Thanks.

  29. Requires DRM - fsck YOU JOSS!!! by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 1

    As I type, this is what is installed on the computer:
    Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Build 2600
    Windows Media Player 9.00.00.3250
    This is the error message that I get when I try to run the file "serenityT1_720p_8mbit_LTRT_NR.wmv":
    The owner of the protected content you are trying to access requires you to first upgrade some of the Microsoft digital rights management (DRM) components on your computer.

    Click OK to upgrade your DRM components.

    Details

    When you click OK, a unique identifier and a DRM security file are sent to a Microsoft service on the Internet. The file is replaced with a customized version that contains your unique identifier.

    This increases the level of protection provided by DRM.

    I guess we were wrong about Joss.

    1. Re:Requires DRM - fsck YOU JOSS!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use quicktime, you tool. Better quality and saveable.

      Unless you *like* beating your head against a brick wall and complaining that it hurts...

  30. Serenity Now by theoneknuckles · · Score: 1

    There's a cool chat room (*no* registration required) to chat about the movie. http://www.karbonized.com/firefly/ship/

  31. Re:Looks average to me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a scifi junkie but you never watched the show? That's like saying your a muslim but you never read the Koran.

  32. De gustibus non est disputandum by jfengel · · Score: 1

    I thought the actors gave lovely downplayed performances. I thought the visuals were stylish and captivating. I thought the writing was sharp and incisive and funny.

    But hey, apparently there's no accounting for taste. Just skip all of the future Serenity threads.

    One thing I can say is that I felt that the earliest episodes were not the strongest. You could try Shindig, which was one of the funniest episodes, but whether it would work if you weren't already into the characters, I just can't say.

  33. What is so good about this movie? by mnemonic_ · · Score: 0, Troll
    I guess I'm a troll because I dissent with the party line, but why does this movie look good? The "bad boy" characters are completely Hollywood cliche by now, as is most of the humor in the trailer (airline pilot imitations are no longer funny). Some of the fight scenes are cool I admit, but big fucking deal; it's a little flash to distract the viewer from:
    1. Lack of story
    2. Flat characters
    3. Script worthy of a thousand groans
    Now, none of us have actually seen the movie in full. But I don't see why everyone is getting excited over these lame trailers. I only hope the real movie is better than what's been flauted about so far.

    Mod me down because you disagree with me.
    1. Re:What is so good about this movie? by jokell82 · · Score: 1
      No one needs to mod you down for disagreeing, although you could be modded down because you're wrong.
      Now, none of us have actually seen the movie in full
      There have been two runs of preview screenings so far, and my bet is many /.ers have seen it.

      Also, if you have ever seen Firefly, you'd know that there *is* a story, the characters are anything but flat, and Joss Whedon is a terrific writer.
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    2. Re:What is so good about this movie? by QAPete · · Score: 1

      I thought the TV series was smartly written and had pretty cool stories to tell (hey, what's original anymore anyway?), but what didn't work for me was the Western+Space Adventure aspect of the series. You might as well cast Britney Spears as Xena, Warrior Princess, or Andy Dick as The Thing. Westerns turn most people off, and everything western about Firefly/Serenity is going to be a turnoff as well, including the theme music.

    3. Re:What is so good about this movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, if you have ever seen Firefly, you'd know that there *is* a story, the characters are anything but flat, and Joss Whedon is a terrific writer.

      And if you disagree, may you catch dysentery and die.

    4. Re:What is so good about this movie? by Blandarg · · Score: 1

      Westerns never made it... Shows like Gunsmoke and Bonanza were never much of a success, besides... those people are all dead now anyway.

    5. Re:What is so good about this movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm...

      Cowboy Bebop?
      Trigun?
      Outlaw Star?

      I think that Cowboy Bebop is one of the most popular anime series ever. It's not the western parts that turn people off from tv shows, it's usually the cheesy writing. Not a problem in this case.

    6. Re:What is so good about this movie? by dewright23 · · Score: 1

      I believe it was on the DVD's, or in an interview with Joss Whedon. He explained the western aspect. Earth is no more (I think they said "It got used up") so colonies were created throughout the galaxy, many too far for regular supply routes. Much like the first American colonies they have to rely on what they have available. Some technology, but not much, so they use horses for transportation, build their own homes, etc. Also, I love the theme. If you have the DVD's, find the easter egg of Adam Baldwin singing Jaynes song.

  34. So, to summarize by isecore · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    twenty million fanboys drool all over their pants. News at eleven.

    Seriously, am I the only scifinerd that found the series to be a complete yawn? Totally boring, and yes I did watch it on DVD in "proper" order. Didn't help with the wooden acting and the tons of scifi-clichés that was dumped upon my head.

    (Yes, go ahead and mod me "flamebait" now)

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    1. Re:So, to summarize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you are the one sole person on the planet who found it boring. Perhaps you have a brain tumor, but wait, do tumors actually cause a person to have bad judgement?

    2. Re:So, to summarize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, am I the only scifinerd that found the series to be a complete yawn?
      Probably not. There is no end of people with bad taste out there.

    3. Re:So, to summarize by CABridges · · Score: 1

      Nope, there are people who didn't/don't like it. Tastes vary. Kinda ticked you dismiss people who do enjoy it as drooling fanboys while simultaneously complaining that you'll get flamed for expressing an opinion (you can't like Firefly unless you're a drooling fanboy?), but no reason you have to like what I like.

  35. The Big news here by tenchiken · · Score: 1

    is that MPAA seems to have re-rated Serenity. The fan showings were all rated R, this is Rated PG-13. One of the things I love about the movie is how intense it is. Hopefully, it doesn't loose that intensity.

  36. Re: Another New Serenity Trailer (NOT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This trailer has been available for MONTHS on the Apple Quicktime movie trailers page. The HD version, if you've got the hardware to run it, is pretty awesome.

  37. Wow. Who did the music for this trailer? by fahrvergnugen · · Score: 1

    Is... is that Gravity Kills I heard in the background at the end of the trailer?

    Holy 1997, Batman.

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  38. I saw it... by Threed · · Score: 1

    Not the trailer. The movie. Pre-release, complete with opening spiel by Whedon himself.

    If you saw the tv shows, it's good. It's really good. But if not, go buy the DVDs, watch them, then go see the movie when it's out. You'll see why Firefly has such a loyal following.

  39. i saw the movie too by Tdevil · · Score: 1

    i saw the movie too i didnt think it was that good oh well

  40. Or from Be Cool by Mr.+Arbusto · · Score: 1

    "Did you know, that if you want to avoid an R rating, you can only use the F-word once? Do you know what I say to that?" --Chilli

  41. Huh? Firefly is *SO* political! by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

    Dude, Firefly is one big allegory of the American Civil War and Reconstruction. It even had Injuns. ('Cept they called 'em "Reavers". Still, they ate flesh and raped the wimminfolk.)

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    1. Re:Huh? Firefly is *SO* political! by Maserati · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily in that order.

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    2. Re:Huh? Firefly is *SO* political! by Requiem · · Score: 1

      Only if you're lucky.

    3. Re:Huh? Firefly is *SO* political! by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      In writing a GURPS module I did quite a bit of deconstruction of Firefly. In the end, I visualized it as being set in the rimworlds because they were balanced between the immoral Order of the Alliance and the immoral Chaos of the Reavers. Encounter the full brunt of either and you are eliminated. The vital people and lands lie in the narrowing band of existence between the two absolutes.

      Of course, it is clearly also the Reconstruction in space; the Order/Chaos trough is just another way of looking at it when building new stories. A good source of material for ideas are the Heinlein stories about Lazarus Long. Like Mal, Laz is the bitter ex-soldier with a sense of humor who is utterly loyal to his shipmates.

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  42. Re:Ugh... by Babbster · · Score: 1
    I love trolls! Do me next, do me next!

    Here: I loved Angel, too. That series was brilliant.

    There. I can't WAIT until an AC pounces on me, too!

  43. Small spoiler's... by rmayes100 · · Score: 1

    Book's in the movie, it's interesting how he's absent in the trailer and the other movie propaganda I've seen so far (like posters and other things, I saw one of the previews a while back).

  44. Why pop-up windows? by mikeswi · · Score: 1

    Question. Why does every single link on that site insist on opening in a pop-up window? Christ that's annoying.

  45. Same here by Explo · · Score: 1

    I have very little country music on my CD collection (mostly progressive rock, some folk and old-time synth stuff), but I quite liked the particular song in the intro.

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  46. Best Writer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Whedon at times is OK, in the early part of Buffy and Angel. But just like Tim Burton he keeps writing the same thing over and over and over again.

    Nasty cold bitca with superpowers? [Faith, Buffy, River, X-Fred, etc] Check.
    Cold removed bastich/bitca hero who is always right just because? [Angel, Buffy, Captain Mal] Check.
    Thug-with-schmoopiness? [Spike, Jayne] Check.
    Breathy babytalk nerd girl turned hot? [Willow, Fred, the Serenity gal] Check.

    Serenity is to the last few seasons of Buffy/Angel as Corpse Bride is to Nightmare Before Christmas. You might or might not like it. It's not particularly original, he's done it before. And before. And before.

    Let's not forget in movies, Joss usually to be honest stinks. Alien Resurrection, Titan AE, Buffy the Movie, all stunk writing wise. Movies require tighter plots, character development, and punch than what Joss has. Joss is good at dialogue and leisurely characterization over a TV season with others (when he listens, S6-7 stunk because he wouldn't listen).

    Whedon couldn't write and direct something like Memento, or Die Hard, or the Limey. He's a TV guy and that's nothing bad. But it doesn't bode well for the Movie given that he's got around 2 hrs to work with and hasn't done a good movie yet.

  47. You're not alone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Whedon's hard-core fans make excuses for out-of-order episodes, etc, which certainly didn't help the show but bottom line was that for me it was poorly written. I didn't like, understand, or feel involved in the characters, they seemed "cooler" versions of the villains rather than actual heroes you'd care about.

    Part of Whedon's appeal to the Slashdot crowd is the nineties attitude, ceaseless cynicism and anti-middle class posturing with nothing underneath but the desperate desire to be "special." It's incredibly dated, in the post-9/11 world, as bad as the sexism in old movies. But for many here on Slashdot the nineties attitude never went away.

    The western-in-space thing was just stupid, cap and ball revolvers, horses in space? Dumb. Plus, you are right the cast outside of Adam Baldwin, can't act. Nothing was there writing-wise to make you care about the characters. They just seemed to drift, and the villains were ridiculous.

  48. Your mixing two songs, the theme and Jayne's song by infonography · · Score: 1

    Jayne!
    The Man they call Jayne!

    Oh, He robbed from the rich
    and he gave to the poor.
    Stood up to the man
    and he gave him what for.
    Our love for him now
    ain't hard to explain.
    The hero of Canton
    the man they call Jayne.

    Our Jayne saw the mudders' backs breakin'.
    He saw the mudders' lament.
    And he saw the Magistrate takin'
    every dollar and leavin' five cents.
    So he said: "You can't do that to my people."
    said "You can't crush them under your heel."
    So Jayne strapped on his hat
    and in 5 seconds flat
    stole everythin' Boss Higgins had to steal.

    Oh, He robbed from the rich
    and he gave to the poor.
    Stood up to the man
    and he gave him what for.
    Our love for him now
    ain't hard to explain.
    The hero of Canton
    the man they call Jayne.

    Now here is what separates heroes
    from common folk like you and I.
    The man they call Jayne
    he turned 'round his plane
    and let that money hit sky.

    He dropped it onto our houses
    he dropped it into our yards.
    The man they called Jayne
    he stole away our pain
    and headed out for the stars!

    (Here we go!)

    He robbed from the rich
    and he gave to the poor.
    Stood up to the man
    and he gave him what for.
    Our love for him now
    ain't hard to explain.
    The hero of Canton
    the man they call Jayne...

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  49. Its just statistics bro by Snaller · · Score: 1

    Out of 100 people 1 doesn't like it - you are the one, just live with it :)

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  50. No!!! Don't say that by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

    Don't compare it to Star Trek. I really don't want to watch Serenity 6: Shootout at the Sombrero Galaxy.
    Sad thing is I know I probably would watch it.

    1. Re:No!!! Don't say that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Don't compare it to Star Trek. I really don't want to watch Serenity 6: Shootout at the Sombrero Galaxy.

      Well, I recommended "Firefly" to fans of ST:TOS because they have similar appeal - each episode is basically a little morality play, told with humor, action, and sex appeal (cheesy as it may be) with an ensemble cast.

      I'm just worried that if they bring Firefly back, it will fall into the same bad habits that Star Trek did.

  51. We COULD get a movie trilogy though by Fezmid · · Score: 1

    It's true that Fox has a crappy contract which, in essence, kills Firefly on the small screen. However, Universal has said that if Serenity does well, they will make it a trilogy. Be sure to watch early, watch often, and bring your friends and family!

  52. Re:Your mixing two songs, the theme and Jayne's so by Rei · · Score: 1

    Apparently you missed the word "or" in between the two songs.

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  53. Re:Your mixing two songs, the theme and Jayne's so by infonography · · Score: 1

    and miss a chance to research the lyrics, bite you tongue!

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    Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
  54. Re: Another New Serenity Trailer (NOT) by CABridges · · Score: 1

    Nope, this is the new trailer. Different scenes, different lines, a lot more of the plot. There's also an internationalv ersion that launched a week or so ago that's different from both, it's at www.cantstopthesignal.co.uk.

  55. Re:Why so many? by CABridges · · Score: 1

    Different trailers. And, considering the amount of comments, it's a popular topic.

  56. totally cant wait! by iLeader · · Score: 1

    I've been trying to assemble a brown coat costume, but I can't find a brown coat.

  57. Metamod Notification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid stupid rat moderator. You play right into his hands. I mark you Unfair.