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Stair-climbing Robot Built From R/C Car Parts

dpa writes "The ability to climb and descend stairs (5M mpg) is one of the unexpected behaviors of this new home-brew off-road autonomous robot platform. The robot has a custom chassis and uses standard suspension and drive components scavanged from old R/C monster trucks. Here is a link to the build log, and here is a link to a hi-res version of the video (20M mpg)."

148 comments

  1. (20M mpg)? by ucahg · · Score: 1

    (20M mpg)?

    20 million miles to the gallon? I gotta get that robot!

    1. Re:(20M mpg)? by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe whoever is running that site will sell you one, after they get the bill for their bandwidth usage this month. :)

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    2. Re:(20M mpg)? by XaXXon · · Score: 1

      In case you're even slower than me, it's a 20 MB .mpg file

    3. Re:(20M mpg)? by ucahg · · Score: 1

      Oh right, my real post:

      What makes a robot these days? Is anything mechanical a robot? My first inclination would be to call this a remote-controlled car, not a robot. The same applies to a lesser extent to things such as F.I.R.S.T. Robotics Competition. I always thought a robot should have some level of artificial intelligence or (less extremely) autonomy, rather than just another mechanical device controlled by humans. Or is that just the poor science fiction I have read coming out in my assumptions?

    4. Re:(20M mpg)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was autonomous, the camera was just following, not driving.

    5. Re:(20M mpg)? by ucahg · · Score: 1

      In case you're even slower than me, it's a 20 MB .mpg file


      I did catch that, actually ;)

      Although it woooould be more clear to write mpeg rather than MPG. But I digress..

    6. Re:(20M mpg)? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      This is NOT an RC vehicle. Nobody is controlling it.

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    7. Re:(20M mpg)? by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 1

      You're not alone. My first impulse as soon as I saw the story was to post what you did. Bastard. =)

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    8. Re:(20M mpg)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod me down if you wish but that had to be the gayest toy car I've ever seen. I'm sure there are others that agree.

    9. Re:(20M mpg)? by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      This is NOT an RC vehicle. Nobody is controlling it.

      then perhaps you can explain just why it has a little whip arial then??? I'd be far happier believing it was a true autonomous robot if there was no whip arial...

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    10. Re:(20M mpg)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Although it woooould be more clear to write mpeg rather than MPG. But I digress..

      Actually, it'd be clearer to write MPEG rather than mpeg. It IS an acronym, after all.

      And it should be 20 MiB. :D

    11. Re:(20M mpg)? by mcsynk · · Score: 1

      The aerial is for the wi-fi connection. (The robot has a webserver) :p

    12. Re:(20M mpg)? by 3dr · · Score: 1

      Please look again at the site. The car is made from common RC car parts (Traxxas truck parts) but the control system is autonomous. On top of the stalk is the inertia sensor that is the basis for its navigation.

    13. Re:(20M mpg)? by mollymoo · · Score: 1
      This is NOT an RC vehicle. Nobody is controlling it.

      then perhaps you can explain just why it has a little whip arial then??? I'd be far happier believing it was a true autonomous robot if there was no whip arial...

      All my autonomous robots have aerials for telemetry and video. Most have RC gear on them at some stage too, if only to test the chassis. Check out this guy's nBot if you don't believe that it's autonomous. You can't balance on two wheels by remote control.
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  2. Emergent Behaviour? by catprog · · Score: 1

    Would this be a case of Emergent Behaviour? My First , First Post

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    1. Re:Emergent Behaviour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately this may end up being your last post at +1. You n00bs need to learn to whore a little more karma before you take a first post level karma blow. I've personally been saving mine for a while, so at this point I can take a 5 point karma hit with no worries whatsoever. Interestingly, I post stuff with this account that I used to only dare post AC (for fear of screwing up my excellent karma account) and I rarely even get modded down. Some people even mod me up for having the balls to say it logged in. I won't use that account for this post though, as it would limit the account's surprise troll value.

    2. Re:Emergent Behaviour? by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 1

      And then there's people like me who could care less about people like you who care a lot about things like karma on a website like Slashdot that nobody aside from the people AT Slashdot care about.

      Or were you being funny? If so, touché my friend, touché.

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    3. Re:Emergent Behaviour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      COULDN'T care less you drunken bum.

    4. Re:Emergent Behaviour? by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      COULDN'T care less you drunken bum.

      Ahhh... that marks you out as an English annonymous coward...

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    5. Re:Emergent Behaviour? by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. I happen to be a drunken bum in the US, and many people here will use that term to address me. I'm not sure if a Brit or American coined the term . . . wait, let me check. Nope can't find it. I guess this post isn't getting an +1 Informative.

      Oh, and how'd you know I was a drunken bum? Your one of those interweb hackers, huh!?

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  3. Nothing to see here by sdo1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Before the video gets slashdotted, here's a summary: A 6 wheeled, 3 axle remote control car goes down some stairs with VERY shallow height, it does around some bushes, and back up the stairs. It really is rather unspectactular. There's a variety of off-the-shelf remote control vehicles that can do the same thing... probably better.

    -S

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    1. Re:Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed

    2. Re:Nothing to see here by hawkeye_82 · · Score: 1

      ....There's a variety of off-the-shelf remote control vehicles that can do the same thing... probably better.....

      Sure. But where the heck is the geek cred in that?

    3. Re:Nothing to see here by Virak · · Score: 1

      And here's the coralized link to the video.

    4. Re:Nothing to see here by dpa · · Score: 1

      No no no this is not a remote controlled car, it is totally autonomous. Look at some of the other videos. but yes, they are pretty shallow steps. dpa

    5. Re:Nothing to see here by AnonymousNoMore · · Score: 1

      Shallow stairs, pfffft. I'd like to see how many drunk freshmen could navigate those. Not many I'm sure.

    6. Re:Nothing to see here by vurg · · Score: 1

      Agree. And what's with the plastic-to-concrete grinding noise when the bot was climbing up?

    7. Re:Nothing to see here by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      this is on a uni server. It will NEVER get slashotted even if it is a video linked to the front page.

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    8. Re:Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD THIS FOOL DOWN DOWN DOWN.

      The ROBOT is driving ITSELF, teh l00xer.

      Example of someone who can look at the pictures, BUT CAN'T READ THE WORDS.

    9. Re:Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to see a remote controlled vehicle where you press start and it drives a 1/4 mile worth of distance returning to approximately a foot of its starting point. I've seen this [ahem] fully autonomous robot in action personally, and I've yet to see an R/C car that can match its manuevering capabilities and very few autonomous vehicles of any type that can match its error correcting and precision in returning to start.

  4. and here's a link to a nice hot cup of stfu by Speare · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I gotta say, for an editor to accept a story with a direct HTTP link to a 20MB mpeg video, it says volumes about how little regard for the technology and the inspiration that makes the Internet great. Slash could be a good net citizen and help avoid melting servers, but no, it's a game to these editors to inflict their worst.

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    1. Re:and here's a link to a nice hot cup of stfu by dpa · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think (cross fingers) we can handle it. dpa

    2. Re:and here's a link to a nice hot cup of stfu by MouseR · · Score: 1

      It's actually a good publicity vehicle.

      For every web site /.-ed, a message eventually appears from the webmaster explaining why their regular visitors were locked-out. This eventually leads to these visitors back to /.

      The term slashdotting HAS become mainstream.

    3. Re:and here's a link to a nice hot cup of stfu by Daedalus_ · · Score: 1

      Well, the servers are still up - still don't understand why the parent was modded 'funny'....

  5. upgrades by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    well, we know now that dalek's don't need this capability, but with it, well...

    i for one, welcome them.

  6. Wifi? by daviq · · Score: 0

    I almost expected it to have Wifi built in.

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    1. Re:Wifi? by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      I almost expected it to have Wifi built in.

      not to mention the almost obligatory webserver...

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  7. Everybody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Stop downloading for a few minutes while my download finishes....

  8. put a gas motor and gps on that thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and we have a darpa winner

  9. Huh? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I fail to see why 3 axles are superiour to 2, especially since it is not articulated between the axles. Won't most obstacles just cause the wheels on one of the axles to lose contact with the ground anyway?

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    1. Re:Huh? by merreborn · · Score: 1

      If you watch the video, the axels clearly have quite a lot of play, shifting around 6 inches or so on the stairs, so that all 6 wheels are pretty much continuously in contact with the ground.

      i.e. it *is* articulated between the axels.

    2. Re:Huh? by sharpestmarble · · Score: 1

      Because this will enable stability while that axle is off the ground. Which would you rather be on, stability-wise: 3 axles(2 over some obstacles), or 2(1 over some obstacles)?

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    3. Re:Huh? by dpa · · Score: 1

      it's 6-wheel fully independent suspension. that tends to keeps all 6 wheels on the ground/stairs,/etc. Watch the video in slow motion if you can.

    4. Re:Huh? by subtropolis · · Score: 1

      They're all driven. They have independent supension.

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    5. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you looked at the step video, the last link on the site, you can see the middle axel helps to push the vehicle up when the back axel hangs over and the foward axel drags the robot fowards. Without it, the robot would probably find itself teeter-tottering on the edge of the step.

  10. Unimpressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, nothing to see here.

  11. But that's not the point... by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's relatively easy to build a robot that can do NNN (eg: Climb stairs/vacuum floor/avoid pitfalls/get a beer) but the challenge is that biological organisms do so MANY of them, so well.

    Show me a robot that can climb stairs/vacuum floor/avoid pitfals/get a beer ALTOGETHER for a reasonable price, and I might get interested.

    But "reasonable price" doesn't mean "more expensive than the sports car I can't afford".

    PS: What kind of sadist posts a direct link to a 20 MB video on slashdot? Somebody must HATE the guy who made this!!!

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    1. Re:But that's not the point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the chinese

    2. Re:But that's not the point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Show me a robot that can climb stairs/vacuum floor/avoid pitfals/get a beer ALTOGETHER for a reasonable price, and I might get interested.


      Show me a robot that can give me a hummer and has interchangeable body parts so I can make it look like any hottie I want!

      Us geeks gots to get is where ever we can!
    3. Re:But that's not the point... by Rxke · · Score: 1

      My dog can climb stairs and fetches my newspaper, but its skills re: vacuuming the floor are marginal at best ;)

    4. Re:But that's not the point... by a_nonamiss · · Score: 1

      My wife can do all those things, plus cook dinner. :P

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    5. Re:But that's not the point... by Rick.C · · Score: 1
      Show me a robot that can climb stairs/vacuum floor/avoid pitfals/get a beer ALTOGETHER for a reasonable price, and I might get interested.

      My ex-wife.

      The price seemed reasonable at the time.
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    6. Re:But that's not the point... by Rxke · · Score: 1

      Nice, but Parent was talking about "for a reasonable price" solution, though! :P :P

  12. What am I missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone else expecting a walking robot?

    There's nothing spectacular about this. Don't waste your time viewing the video.

    1. Re:What am I missing by 9Nails · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I don't see what the big deal is over an RC Car with 6 tires. It seems that stairs, especially very shallow in height as shown here, are well with-in the reach of many wheeled vehicles. I'd even contest that those shallow stairs would pose no threat to the standard RC10-T or E-Maxx truck.

    2. Re:What am I missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not an R/C car, as every 3rd post has had to point out. It is totally autonomous. That's a big word that means it drives itself, no human in the loop. This is an extremely impressive robot, for people that know anything about robotics. Check out the website.

    3. Re:What am I missing by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      Is there _anyone_ here that understands the difference between remote control and autonomous?

    4. Re:What am I missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      e2d2, thanks for trying. I think a couple of folks got it, which is all that can be expected. On the DPRG list we observed that no one seems to know what autonomous means, so we've been looking for a more mass-market-friendly term. Current suggestions include "SmartsOnBoard" and "Braininator" but probably too many syllables for the average Joe. How about "The Journey Robot with Go-Go(R) capability!"

  13. very nice webserver by a3217055 · · Score: 1

    The webserver hosting this information is able to handle the 20 meg file and also the webpage has some nice videos of some other shots of the rover. Man this is a pretty cool toy, I bet people play with these robots once they get them made. Anyway interesting story, will forward it to my robotically enthusiased friends :)

    1. Re:very nice webserver by dpa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      well, it is actually a lot of fun to play with. Did you see the video of the robot dodging through the woods? It will do that same thing with a crowd of moving people, and you can chase it around and try to block its way. It's quite persistent. It did not occur to me when I posted the video that people would assume it is an R/C car. Hmmmm. Perhaps the word "autonomous" is not a widely understood term, more of a buzzword among robot builders. Not sure how else to say it, though. You really have to watch the videos to understand what its doing, I think.

    2. Re:very nice webserver by 3dr · · Score: 1

      There are several posters here that are just not getting it and can't appreciate it.

      This project is extremely cool, and I'd like to hear more about the software logic/heuristics that drive it. That is, if that's info you'd be willing to share and have time to write up.

      The video of it navigating the forest is very interesting; it normally gives a wide berth to obstacles, but in that one case it darts between the two close trees.

      Good job!

  14. The article states this is *not* R/C by reality-bytes · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is *not* a remote control vehicle.

    Although this robot is built from remote-control car parts, it is fully autonomous using a Motorola 'brain' and inertial navigation. It also includes ultrasonic object avoidance detectors.

    I think you'd be fairly hard-pushed to find an 'off the shelf' vehicle that could do that autonomously over reasonably rough terrian.

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    1. Re:The article states this is *not* R/C by sdo1 · · Score: 1

      Fine. And I still say "big deal". It's very nice, but nothing new. My roomies in college 17 years ago were building autonomous vehicles with Motorolla CPUs Ohhh... it can go around a bush. And Ohhh... up shallow stairs.

      No doubt it's neat. And if I'd built it, I'd be showing it off to everyone I know. But it is not a new idea, nor a new execution of an older idea. It's just a rehash of stuff that's already out there and that others have already done.

      -S

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  15. there are 6 axles, not 3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    look at the pictures in the build log.

  16. This is interesting... by hunterx11 · · Score: 2

    ...but will it also protect us from the terrible secret of space?

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    1. Re:This is interesting... by guarddonkey · · Score: 1

      more importantly, what provisions are in place to prevent the Daleks from getting this technology?

    2. Re:This is interesting... by kyojin+the+clown · · Score: 1

      are there shallow steps in your house?

  17. Lets not slap the guy that built it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets not slap the guy that built the bugger. From the looks of his web site he's just another robo-tinkerer have'n some fun.

    Now the person that deserves to be slapped is the person that thought this was exciting enough for /.!

    Rock on my robo-hackers...have fun...and enjoy.

  18. Cool video! by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    That was a fun video to watch. I get the feeling they cut it short however when the robot decided to take a swan dive off the edge of the landing at the very last second... Ooops. So much for Mr. Brain.

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    1. Re:Cool video! by dpa · · Score: 2, Informative

      thanks! Ah most observant Dunbal! You are correct. The posted video is spliced together from two different runs, one up and one down. It was about a 12 foot dropoff, and I was so busy looking at the video camera that I only grabbed it at the very last second before it plunged to its destruction. I think that little robot still needs his Daddy nearby for a while longer... It did a lot better offroad in the woods, like this video (10M) and also this one (22M).

    2. Re:Cool video! by Sinner · · Score: 1

      Wow, the high-dynamic range lighting is really good! The trees look really real. On the other hand, the physics model on the hat could use some work. I think most people would spot that.

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  19. Pushing and shoving by Steven+W00ston · · Score: 1, Funny

    They can climb stairs, but can they push Grandma down them?

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    1. Re:Pushing and shoving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PAK CHOOEY UNF

    2. Re:Pushing and shoving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Korea, only old people climb stairs.

      and oh yeah, imagine a beowulf cluster of THESE!

  20. a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by milktoastman · · Score: 1

    Man, I just got back from a jog and my knee hurts. Gonna have to switch to an elliptical. Anyway, I thought it serendipidous that I was just thinking that I needed a robot to go up and down stairs to fetch me things, since I'm getting old man knees. I'm going to eventually have to have some bot go up to my little attic safe to pluck out the paper on which is written "Go around the bend to see where Dr. Scrambles slinks and shambles." I wrote it to read when I get old. Now it looks like I need this robot to get it down for my crippled butt.

  21. Toy parts by TheStonepedo · · Score: 1

    I was a little put-off by the fact that toy parts were only used for the drivetrain and suspension. The sensors and various gizmos are necessary, but are a little too advanced to call the thing much of a toy. It would be nice to see a robot that every kid with an old RC truck could build out of toys and maybe one or two little circuits, using free instructions.

    The thing is cool, I'll give it that, but I would have been happier if it were MacGuyver'd together out of the RC truck parts, some lego robot controls for dummies, a couple protoboards or print-and-etch-your-own circuits to connect the incompatible electronics, duct tape, and rubber bands.

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    1. Re:Toy parts by ZeroTrace · · Score: 1

      I've just recently completed this project exactly as you've described except for the fact that I used electrical tape instead of duct tape ;)

      http://lab46.corning-cc.edu/dslab/gumcar.php

  22. Re:Military use. by vertinox · · Score: 1

    It really is rather unspectactular.

    Although if a Marine squad tied a Claymore mine to it and sent it up the stairs... I'd say it would it would be a bit more spectacular. Well... At least so for those at the receiving end.

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  23. Tires by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By listening to the sound it makes going up those stairs... what's the MTBF and how often do you need to change tires on that car?

  24. Story Summary.. by mdobossy · · Score: 1

    Here is a link that will consume enough bandwidth to easily slashdot the heck out of their server. If that isnt enough for you, here is another link that will consume enough bandwidth the slashdot, annihilate, then set it on fire for good measure.

  25. Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where's the motorized slinky comments?

  26. Re: Dr. Scrambles by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

    I must admit, I am extremely curious as to
    A) where this phrase comes from (literature? your head?)
    B) why you keep this in a safe in your attic for later consumption?

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  27. What a ripoff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice way to rip off an idea.

  28. Re:a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by Sinner · · Score: 1

    I read this as "a robotic felcher for my crippled butt". Which to be honest, sounds a lot more interesting.

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  29. Nope and Nope by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

    No it isn't, and no it wasn't. :-)

    Luke

    1. Re:Nope and Nope by catprog · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Most of the time when I get to the stories there are lots of posts. this one there were none so I had to do it.

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    2. Re: Nope and Nope by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

      It's all good. I'm just messin' with ya'

  30. Re: Dr. Scrambles by milktoastman · · Score: 1

    I think your sig file sums it up nicely.

  31. Re:a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by milktoastman · · Score: 1

    You find that interesting, eh? Clubs exist, my friend...that's all I'm sayin'.

  32. Stair climbing? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Stair grinding more likely. If these things ever become popular they'll turn our stairs into ramps.

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  33. A model plane went 1882 miles in one Gallon by GuitarNeophyte · · Score: 1

    20 miles to a gallon is nothing.

    A while back there was a model airplane that flew 1882 miles across the atlantic on less than a gallon of fuel.

    Here's the article.

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    1. Re:A model plane went 1882 miles in one Gallon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. Thanks for the article Luke.

  34. Not stairs. by wickedsteve · · Score: 1

    Stairs are much steeper (higher?) than the little steps that toybot climbed.

  35. "stair climbing?" well, sort of by adrenalinerush · · Score: 1

    I was curious how a robot built from R/C truck parts would climb stairs. What sort of actuators would an R/C truck have that could be used for that?

    Looking at the article, however, shows that it's a six-wheel 'bot with oversized tires. Because the tires are big relative to the stairs (and are particularly grippy), it's able to climb the stairs. Not quite what I was looking for, but it gets the job done. Not really scalable, though.

    Props for the Frankenstein treatment, though.

  36. Daleks? by glowworm · · Score: 1

    The Daleks were already given this ability in the latest series of Doctor Who, but they did it with *much* more style that this video shows :)

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    1. Re:Daleks? by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Daleks were climbing stairs in "Rememberance of the Daleks" from the old series. In both the old and new series there's a long drawn-out scene where the characters just stop at the top of a flight of stairs thinking they've outsmarted the Daleks and instead of continuing to run they wait right at the top of the stairs until the Daleks starts climbing the stairs. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not frightened on some new level when I see that this killer death machine can actually climb stairs. I just start to think that after inventing death rays and spaceships, they've finally figured out how to navigate a staircase.

  37. All well and good... by ktakki · · Score: 1

    ...but how does fare against the pusher robots?

    k.

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    1. Re:All well and good... by BiggRanger · · Score: 1

      If I had points, I'd mod this up! The video is great, and it's on topic! Who would have imagined, a music video about robots and stairs!

    2. Re:All well and good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never before have I felt like my time was spent more poorly than when watching that movie.

  38. R/C Car Parts by iamnafets · · Score: 1

    It IS an RC car, even my $5 car can climb 4 inch stairs. That's rediculous.

    1. Re:R/C Car Parts by ki4iib · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no. It's an -autonomous-, self-directed car. Yes, it's miniature and motorized. But WTFM.

  39. Nothing compared to triwheel designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Triwheel designs do this much better (they had one in the Robot Builder's Bonanza book, which is a great read); they can go up 45 degree steps. They work by having three smaller wheels arranged into a single triangular "wheel," with only two in contact when on flat ground. When they encounter stairs, they just simply flip and go over the stairs. I think Lockheed or some company like that had a patent on the design, although it may be close to expiring. A full scale vehicle with the design was used in a Hollywood movie.

    1. Re:Nothing compared to triwheel designs by SpaceJunkie · · Score: 1

      TriWheel designs were used in the movie damnation alley. While they will take stairs - in an active approach, they are very difficult to implement - I know, I have done so. Mind you - they also can work as (rather innefective) water paddles. Have a read of this Orionrobots on Tri-Star Wheels. The good thing about the jBot design, is it is passive and still acheives it. I do own Bonanza by the way - it is a very good resource.

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  40. Mirror mirror... by DrHanser · · Score: 1

    In case the original gets slashdotted, here's the 20MB version.

    Mirror.

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    What is humor if not pain tempered by time?
  41. Meh. by everphilski · · Score: 1

    This is standard fare at many engineering colleges. And inertial navigation is nothing special... less than $50 worth of hardware and an afternoon of programming can give you a cheap IMU (Inertial Maneuvering Unit).

    -everphilski-

    1. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

  42. it goes down better than it goes up... by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 1

    I think with just a little bit more software to detect when one wheel is slipping, it may be able to take care of itself going up without making that annoying grinding noise as its wheels turn against the stair edge.

    1. Re:it goes down better than it goes up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it will transfer power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip?

  43. Who cares? by SirChris · · Score: 0

    Why do you need to go up stairs? Everywhere has a handicap ramp now right? Make it an robot/handicap ramp.

  44. HOTLINKING IS THEFT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linking

    Web pages may link to other web pages using hyperlinks. The hyperlink object allows a viewer to click on a link to reach another site. The owner supplies bandwidth as a gift, or to sell something, etc.

    It is possible to use a HTML tag in a webpage to embed material from another site in it. Thus when the webpage is sent to someone to view, the bandwidth for the embedded material is supplied by the owner of the second site. Simply linking to a file is also considered to be bandwidth theft.

    This may not be desirable for the owner of the second site: he or she may only be willing to supply the material, with the corresponding bandwidth, if that material is viewed embedded in his or her own webpages, e.g. because otherwise it does not help him earn money which compensates for the bandwidth cost.

    This may be considered unfair and even be called "bandwidth theft". If there are no copyright restrictions, it would be considered fairer if the owner of the first site puts copies of the embedded material on his or her own site. If there are copyright restrictions, the alternative would be to just link to the other site.

    For example, Site A hosted by Party 1 puts up a commentary on paintings. In this commentary they would like to post a few images of the paintings discussed. Assume that the paintings are public domain or such use is covered under fair use. Party 1 could host the images (such an option is legally possible), but, instead, Party 1 embeds a tag that causes these images to be downloaded from a server belonging to Party 2. When WebSurfer 1 opens up Site A in his web browser the bandwidth for Site A is provided by Party 1. However, the images are obtained from Party 2. (This practice is sometimes also called hotlinking. Some people call it leeching.)

    Some argue that the act of linking cannot be construed as theft since theft requires unauthorized usage. The underlying protocol for web pages requires the requests to be made by the browser. In response, the server will send out the requested object. Since the server has clearly served the request, it may be argued that a case for theft cannot be made, even if the intent was clearly to deprive the owner of rightful use.

    The situation is further complicated by the ability to configure servers to prevent serving of objects based upon the request. However, many Internet Service Providers now have rules regarding bandwidth theft which make it a violation of their Terms of Use to cause bandwidth theft from another server using their service. So, while a bandwidth thief may not get hit with monetary repercussions paying back the cost incurred by the person they stole from, they can most certainly, and often do, lose their Internet access over the matter.

    See also framing.

    Above content released under the GFDL, see the full wikipedia article.

  45. obligatory quote from Family Guy by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Firebug: Gooooood, goooood

  46. Real Stair Climber by MikeWasHere05 · · Score: 1

    Pretty cool, but if you want to see a real stair climbing robot, check out the iBot. It was made by the same guy who invented the Segway (Dean Kamen). It's a motorized wheelchair that can climb stairs.

    iBot

  47. I, for one, by p!ngu · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...welcome our stair climbing robot overlords.

  48. are you on crack? by subtropolis · · Score: 1
    he follows it through ~1000 ft of forest and it has ~5 ft position error off it's starting point.

    This thing isn't just going to the john and back. It doesn't just get you a beer, it goes fetch!

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    "Our interests are to see if we can't scale it up to something more exciting," he said.
  49. the point is... you're impatient? by subtropolis · · Score: 1

    This isn't the latest gadget at WalMart® If you were really interested in this sort of thing, you might consider that this is somewhat of a prototype. You know news for nerds, and all that.

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    "Our interests are to see if we can't scale it up to something more exciting," he said.
  50. My RadioShaft dumpster-reclaimed bot does this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just dumpster-dived a Radio Shack robot. I use a black marker on a floor to where it needs avoid obstacles as it travels. This is 99 cent technology.

    The robot in the 20MB mpeg video is special by doing all that without the marker; it is using sonic waves, or *ahhem* Sonic Waves(TM) technology to avoid bushes. I'm not impressed with the mechanism, it being three axles and the rear axle is the only one providing the driving force or *ahhem* Driving Force(TM) technology.

    The video is setup in a verry strange period of time. I could swear I heard the crack of a whip and a "No massa', pleesa' no my whore". It's a plantation of some kind. But looking at the shadows, I think someone just build such a bot in a highly-improved Doom3 engine with a perfectly rendered environment by a BEOwulf cluster of DEC Alpha GNU/Linux systems.

    To confirm you're not a script,
    please type the word in this image: moments

  51. Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Though not as advanced as the one in the story, nice job. Your nerdsight serves you well.

  52. Criminy, it's a tough crowd by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

    This robot is seriously cool. The thing is autonomous in every way and the guidance does not depend on external GPS signals either, yet all the people around here can do it state how umimpressive it is, how it doesn't do enough, how it's inferior to biological organisms, blah, blah, blah. For crying out loud, show a little respect for some hard work on a cool project with a high geek factor.

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    1. Re:Criminy, it's a tough crowd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail to understand the lameness...

      That a toy car with 3 inch wheels can scrape its way up 2" stairs is hardly impressive. Any RC car on the planet can do that. Hell, I have an R/C airboat that could do it... (really)

      If the inherint coolness lies in its autonomous naviagation ability then let it solve a maze or something... Watching it stumble down stars then scrape its way back up was lame lame lame.

    2. Re:Criminy, it's a tough crowd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail to undestand the inherent geeky-coolness. Did you watch any of his other videos? I think you will find what you are looking for.

    3. Re:Criminy, it's a tough crowd by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      Amen, I'd bet good money that most on here have never even programmed a microcontroller to get a servo moving, let alone created a robot equal to the one in the article. To those I simply say - Try it yourself and see how easy it is.

      This guy has been building robots since the early 1990s. What have these naysayers done that is sooo damn impressive?

  53. Exactly what I did by xintegerx · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I made the same thing but better in 2001, but MUCH COOLER THAN THIS. It was a Lego Robotics "Dual-Diode Stairwalker", as I named it. It had 4 wheels, not six, about the same size as those in the mpeg. However, the school stair steps were twice as tall as that, so the middle of it would get stuck against the step half-way up. As well, going down the stairs was a very messy endeavor (remember, it was made of all Legos.) Yet, on those stairs in the video, it would have worked just fine.

    However, the cool thing was this: The robot (monster-truck-like vehicle) had a light sensor in the front, and one in the back. I programmed it so that if you shone a flashlight on the back, it moved forward (i.e. 'pushing' it with the light). If you shone a flashlight on the forward of the truck, it went toward you (i.e. 'pulling' it with the light.) Much cooler than using wired or wireless radio. Oh, and when there was no light shining at either end, it would spin in place, about 1 rotation per 2 seconds. The light sensors were at 45 degrees so you could point the light at them standing up. Simply walk behind and shine the light at it, and it will move forward in a straight line. If you want it to turn to the left, either walk infront of it (causing it to lose the light and start spinning) and then when you're in position point the light at it as the front of it is coming into view and it will come toward you, thus following you. Or, you can push it along by walking to the spot *behind* where you want it to go, wait a second for the back to face you, and shine the light. It will notice and start moving away from you. That was pretty fun. It was great for the 10 minutes before I had to take it all apart, finally getting that (a final for a class) to work, to put the pieces of away. But, before that, after the teacher saw it, he had me 'drive' my lego dual-diode thing to the superintendent's office and show it around for 5 minutes. Heck, it was their money they were funding the class with. Man, I was the man.

    1. Re:Exactly what I did by Hawkxor · · Score: 1

      This robot is AUTONOMOUS.

    2. Re:Exactly what I did by xintegerx · · Score: 1

      OKAY, OF ALL 500-word comments that are made on slashdot, THIS ONE is offtopic? What are you smoking, crack? We can't post our own experiences anymore? I own yoU!

  54. With wheels? With legs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  55. Stupid. by Austaph · · Score: 1

    Too bad I'm not the first to say this, but this is stupid. At 1:24 you can see that they edited the clip, probably because their dumbass RC rover did a backflip. As if I cared little enough about crappy remote controlled cars in the first place, I give this a 10; and by 10 I mean -10 out of -10.

    1. Re:Stupid. by Austaph · · Score: 1

      Slinkies climb down stairs more gracefully than this piece of crap.

    2. Re:Stupid. by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      It's a robot. It does this all by itself not remote control.

      So you're not impressed.. so what? What have _you_ done in the field of robotics? Please share it with us all so we can laugh at your accomplishments.

  56. God Help Us All... by LabRat007 · · Score: 1



    ...if the Daleks acquire this technology.

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    "Capital punishment makes the state into a murderer. Imprisonment makes the state into a gay dungeon-master"
  57. Re:"stair climbing?" well, sort of by jr-slash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To really climb stairs you need legs since stairs are designed for people. If you are interested in such robots take a look here: http://www.walking-machines.org/ (btw. additions are are welcome.)

  58. Diagonal Climbing by dilbert+researcher · · Score: 1

    Did anyone notice that the robot climbs down stairs in a straightline but has to go diagonally when climbing the stairs so that more wheels have traction at the same time. Did they program this is in? Intelligent robot if they didnt. PS - the video is still alive.

  59. 3rd axle to get it over stair lips by Kodack · · Score: 1

    I believe the center wheel set is to keep the chassis from bottoming out over the edge of each stair step when going back up the stairs and to provide extra traction when climing stairs. However as you can see and hear from the video it still slips and has to claw at each step to make it up. A larger wheel and ground clearance could do this better with 4 wheels instead of 6. He should have built it on a Traxxas E-Maxx platform if he wanted to climb over rought terrain and stairs easily.

    1. Re:3rd axle to get it over stair lips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like you are right about the 3rd axle. However, the robot evidently *IS* made from Traxxas E-MAXX(s). But it is a fully autonomous robot, not an R/C car. For example, an E-MAXX cannot rotate in place (zero turn radius) like this platform. This is a seriously cool robot, though I think you have to get outside the slashdot community to know it. Most people here seem to think it's an R/C car.

  60. Autonomous? by trongey · · Score: 1

    If it's driving itself why does it have an antenna sticking up in the back?

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    You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
    1. Re:Autonomous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Did you RTFA? From the webpage, *FIRST* paragraph:

      "this is an autonomous robot. That means it drives itself. It is not
      a radio controlled vehicle. The radio antennae you see in the pictures are for an emergency
      shutoff, required by the rules of some robot contests. The robot is navigating using wheel
      odometery and an inertial measurement unit (IMU). It does obstacle avoidance using a 4-element
      sonar array. No one is driving the robot: it drives itself."

      I noticed the paragraph is addressed directly to slashdotters. The author obviously doesn't know that slashdotters don't read. We just look at the pictures.

    2. Re:Autonomous? by trongey · · Score: 1

      Why yes, I did RTFA, and that paragraph didn't exist at that time. If you would RTFP that you referenced you would see that it is in response to Slashdot postings. I don't usually go back to reread an article I've already read just to see if it might have been changed.

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      You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
    3. Re:Autonomous? by jci · · Score: 1

      That is most likely the GPS antenna.

      The sonar array looks to be mounted low and in front on the chassis.

      The IMU wouldn't belong on top of a mast. The Z-difference(aka lever) with an IMU on top would make for more errors when going up or down objects.

  61. video links on front page? by steelshadow · · Score: 1

    Thank you, Slashdot, for a good bit 'o morning humor. There's nothing quite as funny as seeing links to a 5Mb and 20Mb video on the front page of Slashdot. Burn server burn!

  62. Re:a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by IceAgeComing · · Score: 1


    OMG that's pretty funny.

    I know I just ruined your post by pointing that out... Sorry.

  63. Yanno Slashdot editors.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You all could edit the stories to not include direct links to others' files.
    Just because you're a news site doenst give you right to directly link files. You all kill websites doing that shit. Link the pages the files are on next time.
    *gets marked as troll for pointing out the right thing to do*

    Seriously, putting up direct links to two huge ass movie files online in one article is gonna kill a site quicker than people clicking on the page. 25 mb per user, rate about a thousand people clicking on that link (even more possibly)
    You have about 24 GB of bandwidth being sucked from someone's webserver in the matter of minutes or hours.

    Great link until they get shut down by their provider.

  64. Re:a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by milktoastman · · Score: 1

    Oh, it's so ruined. I was going for the Pulizer with it too. And getting child-like sarcasm on slashdot upsets my whole day. wah.

  65. Re:a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by IceAgeComing · · Score: 1


    Oops no; I really DID think it was funny. I forgot the smiley perhaps; really, I don't know the latest cool way to indicate that you're not being sarcastic in a post.

    Someday all posts will be audio instead of text; so much information is gained from voice inflection.

  66. Re:a robotic fetcher for my crippled butt by milktoastman · · Score: 1

    The only reason I thought that you were being sarcastic is because I didn't really think my comment was all that funny. But I accept the truce.

  67. Look closely - it got stuck! by MasTRE · · Score: 1

    It looks like it got stuck going up the stairs! Check out time index 1:24 - 1:25 - it was edited out (present in both versions)!

    While it's impressive that it's autonomous, it's not that impressive to watch, not in 2005.

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    Must-not-watch TV!
    1. Re:Look closely - it got stuck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It did not get stuck. I kicked the camera and lost
      a few frames. Not that anyone will ever read this...

  68. Robot did not get stuck! by dpa · · Score: 1

    oops, forgot I wasn't logged in. The robot did not get stuck, but I kicked the camera and lost a few frames. Here (23M mpg) is video before the bad frames were removed. There is an accompanying obnoxious noise burst, which is why they were edited out. This version also has a funnier ending.

  69. But we did just fine. by dpa · · Score: 1

    Looks like about 100,000 hits per hour at the peak, don't know yet how many of those were the 20M video file. I'll analyze the log files and post the results for anyone interested. We would not have submitted the story with the links if we did not think we could sustain the connections. Can't wait to look at the data! This is the same system previously describe on slashdot.