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The "Google Hack" Honeypot

An anonymous reader writes "On the heels of Google Hacking for Penetration Testers, and Johnny Long's talks at Blackhat/Defcon over the weekend, comes the "Google Hack" Honeypot, a honeypot designed to lure in malicious search engine activity. They had a second release of their tools on monday, according to their site."

108 comments

  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  2. Malicious search engine activity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they trying to trap the search engine or the people using the search engine to find open doors?

  3. Honeypot theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From TFA:

    GHH implements honeypot theory to provide additional security to your web presence.

    Any enlightenment on what the honeypot theory is?

  4. Guh? by mysterious_w · · Score: 1

    So is this thing designed to prove Google is doing nasty things? I'm really confused.

    1. Re:Guh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      no, its designed to trick search engine h4x0r3z into thinking they found a real exploitable site when in fact its a fake honeypot.

      and then from this we can learn about what these h4x0r3z are doing and how to stop them

    2. Re:Guh? by solive1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, this serves to find out how people are using Google to attempt to take control of your stuff (site, servers, etc). By learning more about the methods of attack, we can figure out how to prevent these attacks.

      It's the usual hacking cycle brought to the search engine scene. Malicious hackers find ways to penetrate, and this will try to find a way to stop it. When it's stopped, the hackers will just move on to another way. Later, rinse, repeat.

    3. Re:Guh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Malicious hackers find ways to penetrate, and this will try to find a way to stop it.

      But these are pages with knows exploits, right? What exactly do you learn? The honeypot doesn't let you do anything, it just looks like you could do something. All you're getting is the IP address of some misguided 10 year old in Chicago or some untouchable 30 year old in Beijing.

  5. Missing Slogan: by VeganBob · · Score: 0

    "Mess with Google, and you're gonna get stung."

    --
    Being funny is my sig nature.
  6. Tools by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait, they used their tools for penetration testing? And a honeypot? I am going to search google images for penetration, honeypot and tool and see if I can add anything to the discussion

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    And All I Ask is a Tall Ship And a Star to Steer Her By
    1. Re:Tools by GweeDo · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Your search - penetration honeypot tool - did not match any documents."

      It isn't nice to get people's expectations up like that :P

    2. Re:Tools by pizzaman100 · · Score: 3, Informative
      Naw

      Results 1 - 10 of about 5,010 for penetration honeypot tool with Safesearch on. (0.40 seconds)

      (and that was the google safe search)

    3. Re:Tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      he was talking about image searches, just like the grandparent

  7. Re:Penetration Testers, Johnny Long. by garcia · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why do I feel so damn inadequate reading this article?

    Because when you read "honey pot" you immediately thought of catching hackers instead of what you should have thought of.

    Sad isn't it? ;-)

  8. huh? by alecks · · Score: 1

    can someone please explain what this is. Neither the description, nor the linked article/page actually define what this is.

    1. Re:huh? by Compholio · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://ghh.sourceforge.net/userfaq.php

      A honeypot is, to quote Lance Spitzner founder of the Honeynet Project:

      "An information system resource whose value lies in unauthorized or illicit use of that resource."

      Simply put a honeypot is something that appears to be vulnerable, but in reality is recording illicit use by malicious attackers.

      GHH allows administrators to track malicious hosts: observe who is perpetrating the attack and how it is being executed via the log. The data generated by this, or any other honeypot can be used to deny future access to attackers, notify service providers of attacks originating from their networks or act as an input for statistical analysis.

    2. Re:huh? by kevcol · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then read the packages FAQ. And focus on this paragraph:

      Why should I implement Google Hack Honeypot on my site?

      GHH allows you to safely monitor attempts by malicious attackers to compromise your security. The logging functions that GHH implements allows you, the administrator, to do what you like with the information. You can use the attack database to gather statistics on would-be-attackers, report activities to appropriate authorities and temporarily or permanently deny access to resources.

    3. Re:huh? by Aeiri · · Score: 1

      GHH allows you to safely monitor attempts by malicious attackers to compromise your security. The logging functions that GHH implements allows you, the administrator, to do what you like with the information. You can use the attack database to gather statistics on would-be-attackers, report activities to appropriate authorities and temporarily or permanently deny access to resources.

      That's a little different than a Honeypot, that sounds more like an IDS. But what I'm trying to figure out is how in the hell do they manage to log usage of the Google Cache, Google searches involving your domain, etc?

    4. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, It seems more like it's designed to scare off the would be "google hackers"

      And "report activities to appropriate authorities" ?? - I mean if I were an ISP operator, and someone contacted me to tell you that my subscribers had been breaking in to their "honeypot" I'd be like "yeah, they'll do that -click-"

    5. Re:huh? by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      It's kind of like a Venus Flytrap for hackers. They are lured in by the sweet smeel of the nectar coating, and then SNAP. Nothing left for them to do but be slowly, painfully, excrutiatingly digested alive... Something like that anyway.

      --
      SIGSEGV caught, terminating

      wait... not that kind of sig.
    6. Re:huh? by Zeos386sx-16 · · Score: 1

      As I understand it, the term "honeypot" was coined during the cold war.

      Basically involved using sex to gain confidential information or to compromise an agent of the other side.

  9. Huh? Not all of these... by sH4RD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    GHDB Signature #1013 ("SquirrelMail version 1.4.4" inurl:src ext:php)

    How is that a problem? Look at their demo page. Whoopdeedoo. Now I can stare at a SquirrelMail login screen. Still haven't gotten access to much of anything that I'm not supposed to. Heck, there are plenty of websites offering e-mail through SquirrelMail. Whatever...

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    WASTE - The Secure P2P
    1. Re:Huh? Not all of these... by spacefight · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From squirrelmail.org: Several cross site scripting (XSS) vulnerabilties have been discovered in SquirrelMail versions 1.4.0 - 1.4.4.

      I assume, that's the reason for the 1.4.4 login screen at their demo page.

    2. Re:Huh? Not all of these... by BluhDeBluh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From what I can gather, SquirrelMail 1.4.4 contains a vunerability enabling you to do nasty things. By adding honeypot sites, it makes real sites to hack slightly more difficult if you're trying to find them via Google.

    3. Re:Huh? Not all of these... by jdreed1024 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Still haven't gotten access to much of anything that I'm not supposed to. Heck, there are plenty of websites offering e-mail through SquirrelMail. Whatever...

      That's precisely the point of a Honeypot. It's something that looks like it might be a vulnerability, but isn't. SquirrelMail had a bunch of vulnerabilities, including an SQL injection vulnerability. These sites get themselves added to Google, and thus get pulled up when someone searches for a site to exploit, but they can't actually be exploited. However, the Honeypot site now has the remote IP address, browser being used, and whatever info it feels like collecting on the bad guys.

      Read the FAQ, it explains a lot.

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      There is no sig, there is only Zuul.
    4. Re:Huh? Not all of these... by sH4RD · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Out of all the replies, yours made sense and you weren't an a**hole. Thank you, I now see the point.

      --
      WASTE - The Secure P2P
    5. Re:Huh? Not all of these... by julesh · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. Interesting, except that to exploit an XSS vulnerability, you would typically find a user of the site, and then persuade them to click on a crafted link with your exploit code embedded in it. Therefore you would normally target a user and check the sites they regularly visit. A honeypot would achieve nothing.

  10. Re:First poster? by someonewhois · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ahh, there's nothing as useless as a "first post" post except a "first post" post that isn't actually the first post.

  11. Silly tool by wimp_org · · Score: 1, Insightful


    You just need to make sure you do not put any items on your webserver you do not want to get viewed.
    And if you make invisible links to them. That is just plain stupid.

    Also, if Google can find those files so can any other web-crawler.

    Wimp_org

    1. Re:Silly tool by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sheesh, read the article. When there's a vulnerability in say, phpBB, and a haX0r wants to find it, they can just search google for the vulnerable version. So if you want to find a haX0r, just find a dude that searches google for vulnerable versions of phpBB. That's an example which has nothing to do with files that shouldn't be viewed or invisible links.

      Also, if Google can find those files so can any other web-crawler.

      Ugh.

  12. Re:Penetration Testers, Johnny Long. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    when you read "honey pot" you immediately thought of catching hackers instead of what you should have thought of

    Winnie the Pooh?

  13. The question isn't is it good but why do it? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Insightful

    seriously, what good does this serve society? If you can prove that google hacking makes information more free, or that tearing down the barriers helps, well, fine.

    If you want to see if you can secure data so it doesn't get google hacked - ok.

    If you just want to show how nifty you are at using commonly available tools - there never has been any such thing as total privacy and there never will be.

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    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
    1. Re:The question isn't is it good but why do it? by nantoka · · Score: 2, Informative

      tearing down barriers is not always good. some of these hacks are used by pornographers to phish for whoever (including kids) by evading familiy filters etc. I found a hack (a word) that will return zero results for legitimate sites but about 5,000 related to highly unnatural acts. if you are in google, you are one word away from reading the site descriptions of these sites. kind of makes you think twice about whether it's ever safe to hit the "im feeling lucky" button.

    2. Re:The question isn't is it good but why do it? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Insightful

      tearing down barriers is not always good. some of these hacks are used by pornographers to phish for whoever (including kids) by evading familiy filters etc. I found a hack (a word) that will return zero results for legitimate sites but about 5,000 related to highly unnatural acts. if you are in google, you are one word away from reading the site descriptions of these sites. kind of makes you think twice about whether it's ever safe to hit the "im feeling lucky" button.

      There we go. This is why I hardly ever hit the i'm feeling lucky choice.

      But, it's like basic science - it can be used for good or evil, depending on many things. Perhaps this is mostly good? Or mostly evil?

      I can't say, but I do know that the people that these try to "trap" frequently use the results to avoid the new traps.

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      -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
    3. Re:The question isn't is it good but why do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      They should change "I'm feeling lucky" to "Are you feeling lucky, punk?"

    4. Re:The question isn't is it good but why do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is to collect data on computers that look for exploits in servers, and then take action against them.

  14. Re:Penetration Testers, Johnny Long. by Tackhead · · Score: 1, Funny
    > I can't put my finger on it... Why do I feel so damn inadequate reading this article?

    I dunno. I had an 8" floppy. Mabel may have been plain, but she never complained.

    Then one year it was 5.25" floppy, a few years later it was 3.5" and kinda stiff, and nowadays it's all about these little compact flash thingies.

    Must be something Google's putting in the water.

  15. My Explanation by SuperJason · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I'm understanding it correctly, this is a system to keep out the users that are using google hacks. If someone finds your site because of a search string that matches a certain signature, I'm guessing that you could ban them. So if they find your site by searching for "top secret alien government technology", you can ban that user.

    Here is a FAQ question from their site:
      What is a honeypot?
    A honeypot is, to quote Lance Spitzner founder of the Honeynet Project:

    "An information system resource whose value lies in unauthorized or illicit use of that resource."

    Simply put a honeypot is something that appears to be vulnerable, but in reality is recording illicit use by malicious attackers.

    GHH allows administrators to track malicious hosts: observe who is perpetrating the attack and how it is being executed via the log. The data generated by this, or any other honeypot can be used to deny future access to attackers, notify service providers of attacks originating from their networks or act as an input for statistical analysis.

    1. Re:My Explanation by lspd · · Score: 1

      The data generated by this, or any other honeypot can be used to deny future access to attackers, notify service providers of attacks originating from their networks or act as an input for statistical analysis.

      Great...So the new goatse link will be some overzealous honeypot. You click the link and your ISP gets an email saying you're an evil hacker.

      Wouldn't it be more effective to report the websites with these vunerabilities to their hosting providers?

    2. Re:My Explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great...So the new goatse link will be some overzealous honeypot. You click the link and your ISP gets an email saying you're an evil hacker.

      Not unless you actually try to exploit it.

      Wouldn't it be more effective to report the websites with these vunerabilities to their hosting providers?

      They don't care. Problem is, when these sites get hacked, they turn into spam relays which everyone else has to then deal with.

      I mean golly, do you have anything informed to add?

    3. Re:My Explanation by bani · · Score: 1

      Nope. Wrongo. You only get trapped if you try to use an exploit on that site. You don't get trapped by merely visiting the page.

      You have to be doing something deliberately malicious in order to get caught by the honeypot.

      The honeypot just pretends to be something vulnerable in hopes of attracting criminals to attack it.

    4. Re:My Explanation by lspd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You have to be doing something deliberately malicious in order to get caught by the honeypot.

      So you encode evil input into the URL. Many scripts accept POST and GET.

    5. Re:My Explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you think you're being clever but you're not.

    6. Re:My Explanation by AlexTheBeast · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      At least give me credit, when you report my hack. :)

      Use Google to Find Free MP3s, WMAs, OGGs, and Other Music Files

    7. Re:My Explanation by ikkonoishi · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Also "filetype:torrent mp3" is useful.

    8. Re:My Explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a little late to this party, but as one of the co-leaders on GHH I figured I could add a bit.

      Anyone who is looking to get GHH up and running we have a handy flowchart showing the in's and out's of the process:

      http://ghh.sourceforge.net/GHH%20-%20Installation. gif

      The chart shows both logging branches (CSV/MySQL). If you have any issues with getting GHH up and running use the Source Forge system.

      - Greg (aka gsmith3231)

    9. Re:My Explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trying to generate ad revenue (again) are you? Please, moderators, remove/mod parent post as the spam it is. I fucking hate this spam shit.

  16. At the Risk of Pointing out the Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At the Risk of Pointing out the Obvious: If someone is not smart enough to keep stuff off the web they don't want on the web, how exactly are they going to be able to download, complile from source, run and configure Google Hack Honeypot?

    Just askin'

    1. Re:At the Risk of Pointing out the Obvious by wed128 · · Score: 1

      I really don't think you understand what a honeypot is...

    2. Re:At the Risk of Pointing out the Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's put it this way:

      if ($build_web_apps && $dont_understand_how_ghh_works)
      {
        echo 'Thank you ghh for saving my butt.';
      }

  17. OK, I'll admit my density. by idontgno · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What am I missing here? A honeypot attracts would-be attackers with a false target to allow them to try their every wile against the honeypot while the pot's admins record every move.

    How do you honeypot Google? I'm fairly sure the nice folks at GoogleCorp aren't going to let you stick your honeypot in the way of the real thing. If the hacks in question are just malicious queries, how do you get the 1334 hax0rs to use your oh-so-attractive honeypot when every schmoe can type "www.google.com" into their attack script?

    Where's the flaw in my thinking? If you're not honeypotting the search, what's left?

    --
    Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    1. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      From the site These insecure tools, when combined with the power of a search engine and index which Google provides, results in a convenient attack vector for malicious users. GHH is a tool to combat this threat.

      Hackers use google to uncover these site's vulnerabilities. Thats all Google has to do with it!

    2. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      OK, simply:

      Tool creates fake web pages that look like vulnerable Web apps.

      Google indexes fake pages.

      Bad Guy searches Google for likely victims.

      Google returns indexes of pages created by tool.

      Bad Guy follows links.

      Tool logs Bad Guy's IP and other information.

      No Profit for Bad Guy.

      Good Guys watch Bad Guy try to |-|@><0r the page, and log everything his does.

      Good Guys contact Law Enforcement, present evidence.

      Good Guys contact Bad Guy's ISP, present evidence.

      (now, there are 2 possible outcomes - the ideal and the real.)

      Ideal outcome

      Law Enforcement goes after Bad Guy.

      Bad Guy's ISP shuts Bad Guy down.

      Bad Guy gets caught, convicted, and spends several years playing "Hide The Sausage" with his new friend Benjamin Dover the Serial Sodomist.

      Real outcome

      Law Enforcement ignores evidence as no money was lost.

      Bad Guy's ISP ignores evidence as there is no Law Enforcement involvement, and Good Guys are not ISP's customers.

      Bad Guy is distracted for a while and doesn't get to |-|@><0r as many systems.

    3. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by ickypick · · Score: 1

      "...every schmoe can type "www.google.com" into their attack script?"

      This is not a Google search engine clone. This tool uses Google and other search engines to index fake vunerabilities in order to entice would-be hackers into trying to exploit a vunderability. This tool then logs the activity and the IP and such can be added to a blacklist database that other site admins can use to block malicious user IP's, report to ISP of IP address...potentially.

      That said, a hacker worth his salt most likely won't be performing any of these activities directly from their system or using their provider. Atleast this may flag some of the script kiddies.

    4. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by Surr3al · · Score: 1

      Word to that!

    5. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is it an 'ideal' outcome because someone would be sentanced to prison for commiting no crime and doing no damage, or because he would be repeatedly raped when he got there?

      Curiosity isn't a crime. Even if it was, no crime should be punished by what is essentially state sanctioned rape.

    6. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by mulhall · · Score: 1

      Surely the point is to identify that you are being attacked, and how?

      Then you can develop counter measures...no?

      Your scenario falls under entrapment (in the UK anyhoo)

    7. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by tez_h · · Score: 1
      Your scenario falls under entrapment (in the UK anyhoo)

      Only if you are an agent of the state, and it is not strictly a legal defence. See this.

      -Tez

      --
      Haskell, the static-typed, lazy, polymorphic, programming language.
    8. Re:OK, I'll admit my density. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The OP is hoping he gets caught, and then no longer has to hide his collection of Big Men Behind Bars DVDs.

  18. Is it just me... by Runefox · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or does this seem a little... Strange? I mean, it's all well and good to leave a honeypot out, but I think this is a bad move by Google. What about all those bees?

    --
    Screw the rules, I have green hair!
  19. Re:Penetration Testers, Johnny Long. by invisigoth · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    He's talking about...err...I get it now.

  20. Google hacking and honeypots explained by I.M.O.G. · · Score: 5, Informative
    "GOOGLE HACKING"

    Google hacking is the process of reconnaisance with a target, through the use of google.

    What this means, is that an attacker has a target, he can use google to find information/vulnerabilities of this target without actually ever touching the target at all, thereby giving no warning.

    It's a much "safer" way of reconnaisance than directly going to a page and attempting trial and error attacks... The attacked has no idea there is any reconnaisance taking place, yet the attacker is finding more and more information about exploiting their target.

    "HONEYPOTS"

    Honeypots are designed to be in a controlled vulnerable state. You set up a server with known vulernabilities and put it in a controlled area of your network. Depending on the software used, there are various levels of interaction the honeypot will allow. Complicated honeypots can replicate a large network, recording all activities of the attacker and keeping their interest for longer. Simple honeypots only allow basic actions, and the attacker will become bored more quickly and you will get less information./P.

    1. Re:Google hacking and honeypots explained by I.M.O.G. · · Score: 1

      To expand on this, honeypots can be used to detect the google hacking attempts... ....I left that part out. This is what the OP is about.

  21. I think... by freshman_a · · Score: 3, Funny

    Between this article and the duped article mentioning Johnny Long's book, I think the editors just like the words like "penetration" and "long".

    Ok, there's my dirty post for the day.

  22. is this an official Google(TM) project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    and are they ok about an unconnected third party using Google's trademark (its name or otherwise known as "brand") in connection with this service ?

    or is this just an attempt to link a major brand name with an otherwise unknown software project ?

    seems the latter in this case,
    iam looking forward to the Nike attack-trainer project or the Mcdonalds healthy software initiative.

    --AJ

  23. Honeypot Explained by spood · · Score: 4, Informative

    There seems to be a lot of confusion about how this works. You need to understand two things to understand the GHH - first what a 'Google Hack' is in the first place, and second how to create a honeypot to record malicious behavior.

    First, a quick summary of Google hacking: Google obviously has a huge cache of URLs. If a vulnerability is published that can be identified by a URI string, then you can simple Google that URI to identify vulnerable hosts. The GHH main page has a list of the current vulnerability signatures that it tracks.

    In order to make a honeypot for this malicious behavior, you simply have to set up a Web server to respond appropriately to each of these linked URLs and have it be indexed by Google (not a trival task, but still quite doable). You can then track referring requests from Google by IP address, etc...

    In order to defeat this type of tracking, an attacker could strip off the Referer header using an automated tool or a proxy, then route through an Onion router or some other anonymous proxy, but at least the server would still have some metrics to identify the relative freqency of attackers reaching the site through a "Google Hack."

    --
    ---- Just another spud server.
  24. Why aren't Google being responsible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So how come Google don't do anything about the hacks themselves?

    With some hacks, like the URL based ones, it seems unlikely that removing them would affect any legitimate search.

    The conclusions by courts in the open wireless networks seemed to be that the openess(physically) of a network was irrelevant - if it was private(in the mind of the owner) then you're not alowed in. So Google is not only sniffing out private networks they are also broadcasting them to the world!

    1. Re:Why aren't Google being responsible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do what ? Say i deliberately have a directory on my site that is called /etc/passwd ? It is a highly relevant page containing stories and articles I have written

      Say I have pages up with the same strings that are relevant to a number of Google hacks, like "Admin Panel powered by" etc etc ?

      This stupid pre-emptive doctrine that has poisoned everything since 9/11 has to stop. Nothing has been 'settled' in the real world where things actually count.

      if it was private

      The Downing Street memo and numerous other leaks were intended to be private. Are you suggesting that the world shouldn't know what is happening ?

      Stop being such an old granny.

  25. This 'honey pot' talk has my tumbly all rumbly by pchartwell · · Score: 1

    How long before the hackers come up with a "rain cloud" counter-hack? After all, everyone knows that a rain cloud never eats honey (no, not a nip).

    1. Re:This 'honey pot' talk has my tumbly all rumbly by Pope · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm surprised no one has come up with this, but then again, most kids these days are completely ignorant of the classics.

      --
      It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
    2. Re:This 'honey pot' talk has my tumbly all rumbly by crontab · · Score: 1

      Very good. Someone please mod parent up. AA Milne (just kidding, humor impaired folks)

      --
      The real world is a special case.
  26. NICE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really nice ..

    So i tried similar searches, and got mostly seven(7) hits in google. Turned out all 7 where 'GHH' sites. Really funny that from today on I am registered as an hacker too!

    memo to self: RTFA beFORE googling it

  27. robots.txt? by eight+and+a+quarter · · Score: 1

    if you're ultra-paranoid, couldn't you just ban all robots from robots.txt, i'm sure there are non-compliant robots.. but legitimate ones like Google should abide, right?

    --
    lameness filter thwarted.
  28. what is this about? by xquark · · Score: 1

    I don't understand?

    what are these insecure tools?

    and how does a search engine index aid someone
    in hacking my site?

    --
    Arash Partow's Philosophy: Be a person who knows what they don't know, and not a person who doesn't know.
    1. Re:what is this about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Let me show by example.

      Let's say you have a website that runs SomeSoftware v1.0.

      Now let's say SomeSoftware v1.0 has an exploit that allows anyone to gain administrative priviledges to the software.

      If a hacker knows SomeSoftware has this vunlerability, if he wants to have some fun, all he needs to do is Google for "SomeSoftware" to find any website running SomeSoftware! Then he can mess with it.

      Now what the honeypot does, is it masquerades as one of these sites. It'll look just like SomeSoftware in a Google search result, but when a hacker clicks on the result, the honeypot will log his visit and anything that he does on the fake site.

    2. Re:what is this about? by jcuervo · · Score: 1
      what are these insecure tools?
      The people running the place? :P
      and how does a search engine index aid someone in hacking my site?
      Maybe a demonstration would help you out, here...
      --
      Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
  29. Google Hack Tool by Surr3al · · Score: 1

    Pretty neat, but what I would prefer is a tool that uses the most common queries against your site to see if it can be google hacked. I guess this thing could be the database for this query tool. Perhaps this is something that might be in the creator's minds of this project?

    1. Re:Google Hack Tool by GecKo213 · · Score: 1

      ...I would prefer is a tool that uses the most common queries against your site to see if it can be google hacked.

      Google is not doing the hacking. I'll give you a simple step by step example hack:

      1) Let's say that you really like to use PHP on your site. Let's also say that PHP has a gaping security hole that will allow all sorts of "hacking" to take place. Lets just say that you don't know about this security hole just yet and so you don't know that it should be patched etc...

      With the situation set up thusly I'll continue...

      2) Let's say that an Evil H4x0r discovers this problem with PHP and decides he'd like to exploit it for his evil benefit. (Zombie Networks, SPAM, or maybe to stash his Kiddie Pr0n) All the H4x0r would need to do is go to Google.com and run a search for say "install/install.php"... What this would tell our evil H4x0r is just what sites that are running our favorite PHP program. Google.com would then return a list of all sites that happen to have that listing. Evil H4x0r then has a great list of exploitable sites listed before him on the google.com search page.

      3) Evil H4x0r starts his dirty work H4x0r1nG the sites with his Mighty Tools of DOOM! Thus taking control, sending SPAM, or stashing Kiddie Pr0n at his will.

      By now you should be able to see the use for this "Google Hack"... Google is not doing the hacking, just making the "Recon" or discovery work all that much easier. You need to ensure that your PC's are not vulnerable to attack by keeping things up to date and locking them down as best you can.

      On to the Honeypot...

      Google has appearantly set up a computer that looks like it's just ripe for the picking. (What that means is that no matter what vulnerability our Evil H4x0r is looking for he'll find it in this machine) What happens next is they put it online and add the URL's from the Honeypot to the search index, and probably make them come up failry high in the search results so they make sure that our Evil H4x0r finds them first and tries to Exploit them. Then our Evil H4x0r friend sees the link, tries his mighty H4x0r1nG on the page, the Honeypot records all of his "moves" and "attacks", and he gets bored and leaves. This then helps by allowing officials to know how people are breaking into these machines and come up with ways to stop it or prevent further attacks.

      If that doens't make sense then it never will and you should go back to doing whatever it was before you began reading my post. Thank you and have a great day! :)

      GecKo213


      Disclaimer: By refering to our Evil H4x0r friend as a HE I in no way meant to infer that it specifically meant it was a Male. My reason for using "HE" is simply to avoid excessive keystrokes while I told my story.

      If you have any comments, negative or other, please direct them to dev/null.

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    2. Re:Google Hack Tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      direct them to dev/null.

      But why? /dev/null I can understand, but ~/dev/null as the case is in one xterm, and /etc/dev/null in the other I just don't understand!

  30. My Explanation by omiee · · Score: 5, Informative

    try this search in Google: intitle:index.of "parent directory" *.mp3 This will turn out all mp3s out there on webservers that have directorylisting mistakenly turned on now you can change this to any file type, or any other specific filter that you are looking for. Thats "Google Hacks" in my books.. The honeypot would be to check for those kinds of searches and figure out how to counter them.

  31. Re:First poster? by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How many posts would a first poster post if a first poster could post first?

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  32. who you calling a tool? by bbdd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "These insecure tools, when combined with the power of a search engine and index which Google provides, results in a convenient attack vector for malicious users."

    how is your crappy site being indexed by google the fault of "insecure tools"? you have stuff to hide? don't put it where google can get it!

    the only insecure "tool" is the site designer who exposes his own data...

    1. Re:who you calling a tool? by fm2503 · · Score: 1

      "These insecure tools, when combined with the power of a search engine and index which Google provides, results in a convenient attack vector for malicious users." Don't be so proud of this technological terror you have created, it is nothing compared to the power of the force

  33. OMG! by whodkne · · Score: 1

    Someone at 127.0.0.1 is running my website!!ELEVNETY!!!!111!!1!!!!

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  34. Great concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This project deserves a pat on the back for thinking outside the box.

    Attackers have never needed an IP range to make an attack, and this is the first technology I've seen thus far that has responded to that principle. Simple concept, but very interesting and should be developed.

    So, where's the dumpster diving honeypot? :)

  35. Check out SiteDigger by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

    I've been using this for a while.
    This tool will blow your mind.
    You have to create an account with Google and acquire a key to use it.
    Then point it at a site and let it run the hax0r search queries...
    You will be amazed at what is exposed out there.

    http://www.foundstone.com/resources/termsofuse.htm ?file=sitedigger2.zip

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  36. Ok but say goodbye to your traffic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If people are looking for websites that you have content about, they are going to use a search engine. And they won't find your site because you told the engines not to index it.

    1. Re:Ok but say goodbye to your traffic by johnnytv · · Score: 1, Informative

      not at all, all this does is disallow certain directories, not all. In the case of .htpasswd I agree, but that would be set for only certain directories that authenticated users needed to access, not for applications

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  37. THANK YOU! by narftrek · · Score: 0, Funny

    Thank you Thank you Thank you!

    I now have something to do for hours! I never knew of this useful "tool". And who says you never learn anything reading Slashdot...

  38. What about robots.txt? by johnnytv · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    user-agent: * Disallow: email.htm Disallow: /cgi-bin/ Disallow: /webmail/src/ Prevents Google or other robots from indexing these areas. Or better yet, .htpasswd allows basic auth for sensitive areas under apache. Problem with the honeypot idea is it dissallows proper users from finding the correct URL to web-services.

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  39. Your hack, huh? by snowwrestler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You posted this in April. Some of us have been doing stuff like that for well over a year. Nice try on the credit grab though.

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  40. Re:Penetration Testers, Johnny Long. by jo42 · · Score: 1

    Last time I Googled on "honeypot", all I got back was a bunch of links to pr0n sites...

  41. 'Bad guy' not so bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The problem here is that I can't see a way of using Google that would mean truly illegal website cracking (vocabulary lesson: 'cracking' as in dismantle security measures; and not 'hacking' as in improving the linux kernel).

    For example, the following "crack-search" example: 'intitle:index.of "parent directory" *.mp3', this only is useful if you mistakenly have left your http server on, I don't think the 'bad guy' is doing anything bad by using this, it is you who should disable your http server, or Google who should stop indexing this sites.

    Can somebody enlighten me with an example of using Google to truly crack a website, rather than just using blatantly available services?

  42. incorrect capitalisation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    At the Risk of Pointing Out the Obvious:

    reads better, non?

  43. Uh by trezor · · Score: 1

    HTTP-GET, sure. But care to explain how you make a HTTP-POST request with a <A> hyperlink?

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    1. Re:Uh by bani · · Score: 1

      Yeah, i'd love to see this uber-leet HTTP-POST with hyperlink too.

    2. Re:Uh by lspd · · Score: 1

      I wasn't claiming that you can urlencode a POST into an hyperlink. I was saying that many scripts say they want POST but will happily accept urlencoded GET without complaining.

      If you track evil POSTs, you have to track evil GETs or you leave a simple workaround (just copy/paste your evil string on the URL.) OTOH, if you track and report evil GETs, then any unsuspecting fool who clicks on a bad hyperlink might be wrongfully reported.