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WinFS Beta 1 Released Early

Mouldy Punk writes "Infoworld is reporting that WinFS Beta 1 has been released. The new relational file system for Windows is posted on MSDN Subscriber Downloads. This release is designed to offer developers a preview of WinFS capabilities. WinFS will be in beta when Windows Vista ships and will RTM afterwords. WinFS, when it ships, will be available for download for Windows Vista and possible support for Windows XP is being considered. The distribution mechanism for WinFS will be through an add-on download much like the .NET framework is today. Tom Rizzo also notes that there is a new blog dedicated to Win FS."

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  1. I wanna know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What should Hans has to say on this fs.

    1. Re:I wanna know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mine too... all it needs now is a good text editor.

    2. Re:I wanna know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Han Solo:
      "I've got a bad feeling about this!"

  2. First post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    MS just found the backup disk.

    1. Re:First post. by ZosX · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't worry. There isn't a karma bonus for funny. Thanks for the laugh though, that was a good one. :)

  3. NTFS? by Snoolas · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if there is a possibility of MS releasing the NTFS specs for the FOSS community once WinFS becomes widely used? That would be great, but seems unlikely.

    1. Re:NTFS? by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      So which one is not a file system, the New Technology File System or the Windows File System?

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  4. Re:Rushed? by Zaulden · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'll always call Billy Gates "long horn" too. ;) Gotta love those poses in Teen Beat.

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  5. Re:Now I can search my drive for images? by ivan256 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Easy, they'll put it all in a database using .NET and write an activeX control for the windows explorer window that queries the database and makes the entries look like icons.

    Then they'll patent it.

    I've had better ideas over lunch. I wish somebody would give me a few million dollars to build one.

  6. Re:bleh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    1) Offer nothing new in Vista 2) Release an add-on with "BETA" in the title 3) ??? 4) Profit!
    I guess they're learning from linux after all!
  7. Re:Is this really a file system? by Matt2k · · Score: 4, Funny

    > and whose mistake was propagated to Windows 98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2K, XP, and 2K3, effectively making it impossible for nontechnical users to ever learn where their files were located...

    The root of the problem is that most people do not care where their files are located. They just want it to work.

    By the way, I think something is wrong with your keyboard.

  8. Vista==XP by digitalderbs · · Score: 5, Funny

    When buying a Vista license, you'll be paying for XP a second time ... but you're really saving in the TCO.

  9. Excellent! by sigmaseven · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, I should use a Microsoft beta file system, because my files and documents aren't in enough danger as it is....

    Seriously, is there an upside to this system to the casual-to-serious user? Or is it mostly a DRM-delivery platform? I read TFAs, but this sentence hurt me: "(Integrated data initiative is a term used to refer to a group of technologies whose goal is to provide better integration for data..." ...aaaand I just bluescreened my brain.

  10. Re:Now I can search my drive for images? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Some kind of tree? Hmmm, sounds familiar.


    c:
        \text
        \windoze
        \pr0n


    But is the world ready for such technology?

  11. Re:Is this really a file system? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    By the way, I think something is wrong with your keyboard.

    You mean the ^H's? He's probably using Lunix. It's 2005 and they still can't get the freaking backspace key to work.

  12. I wonder if it runs in Wine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If this is an add-on which interfaces to the kernel through an API it should be possible to get it to run under Wine, right? I'm fairly ignorant about how Wine works, so I'm wondering. That would be cool to have WinFS running on Linux.

  13. Re:Give it a rest, OK? by DrCode · · Score: 5, Funny

    You are (deliberately?) misunderstanding what WinFS is designed to accomplish.

    Locking out Linux/Samba clients and servers?

  14. Re:bleh by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Funny

    2) Release an add-on with "BETA" in the title

    Works for Google.

  15. Re:Is this really a file system? by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Funny

    The bu^H^Hfeature is that you no longer get^H^H^Hneed to know where your files are.

    One of these days they're going to invent an operating system that recognises the Backspace button. The possibilities will be endless! They might even have cars that run on electricity in that future age.

  16. Re:but what about the interface to it? by Keeper · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm actually looking forward to using it in a manner that will help me organize my photos. Directory structures + filenames don't cut it, especially when you've got attributes like "christmas vacation, florida, camille, beach, lighthouse, 16:9 crop" that you want to associate with one file.

    Of course, as you note, the system is useless if you have poor metadata associated with the files. But with good metadata, the flexability/power available to organize and find the information you are looking for is increased by an order of magnitude via dynamic folder creation.

  17. And ... by too_poland · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... does it run linux(TM) ? :>

    1. Re:And ... by nmb3000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow. 15 minutes and you still haven't been modded Flamebait or Troll. Very impressive.

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  18. linux/oss version? by leckmi · · Score: 2, Funny

    i bet WINFS is not much more advanced than the ancient BeFS was. but im open to let my friend Bill and his crew convince me with their linux version of it...

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  19. Re:but what about the interface to it? by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Funny

    "christmas vacation, florida, camille, beach, lighthouse, 16:9 crop" sounds like a great filename to me. Or

    \christmas vacation\florida\camille-beach-lighthouse-16:9-cro p?

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  20. Re:Is this really a file system? by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I totally agree. I mean... when I search for "Porn" on my drive, it would be as though I did a search for *.*

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  21. Re:but what about the interface to it? by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 2, Funny

    until you go to florida again on spring break and later want to see all pictures from florida all in one place...

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  22. Re:but what about the interface to it? by Keeper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great, now show me how to find all of the lighthouse pictures I've ever taken from floria that aren't a 16:9 crop?

    Or better, how I would use said directory structure to organize pictures with Camille in them for some sort of surprise birthday photo montage?

  23. Re:but what about the interface to it? by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Funny

    A CVS replacement? Why? There's already Subversion. ;)

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  24. Finally! by Perryman · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...A microsoft supported file sharing program! wait... what does the FS stand for again?

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  26. Re:Is this really a file system? by spudgun · · Score: 2, Funny

    cars that run on electricity

    And car managment systems running emacs , rather than winme ?

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  27. Re:Is Linux Trailing? by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

    a lot of us are complacent with semantics that are still pretty much the same as their father's Unix box

    My father was in a coastal village in deep southern China, between Guandong and Hainan Island. The year was 1911, it was in the waning months of the Qing dynasty. If the stories are true, the house he was born in apparently doubled as a chicken coop. I'd dearly love to get my hands on his Unix box, it'd be quite a family heirloom.

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