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Adult Swim To Offer Streaming Video Option
Julio Capote wrote to mention a press release making the rounds stating that Adult Swim will be allowing viewers to watch shows via streaming video. From the article: "Starting Sept. 16, AdultSwim.com will offer full-length episodes of these and other programs in an initiative Cartoon Network is calling Friday Night Fix. Each week between 11 p.m.-6 a.m. ET, a selection of current and fan-requested shows will be available for free viewing. There also will be previews of episodes scheduled to debut the next Sunday" The official Williams Street announcement is also available.
Cartoons are a lot more interesting (and more intellectually stimulating) than most of what's on TV these days.
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I guess I don't need to do any online games on friday night anyway. [sniff]
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The thing that gets me about the Cartoon Network, and the reason I don't watch it (besides the fact that I'm an adult), is that it replays the same episode over and over ad nauseum. I suppose the episodes update week by week, but that's hardly fast enough.
This is why I like network television rather than cable. The shows are spaced out so that you don't get the same show twice in one week (except for syndicated shows, but that's not really a concern for primetime), and the shows do not repeat themselves until the next season at the earliest.
Which all makes this latest streaming content thing all the more attractive. Now I can watch the episodes I want without having to actually watch the channel. I don't know how they will make any money off of advertisers, but that's not my problem.
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Is it some kind of water-fetish pr0n channel? Chicks in swimcaps and such?
Reminder: Apple owns 1/255th of the internet.
Yeah, they have obviously missed the fact that much of their content could be done start to finish in Flash starting with Aqua Teen Hunger Force. For much of their lineup, 30fps video is massive overkill. Heck, some of it could be sent out as a flip-book without losing anything and quite possibly improving on it.
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I wonder what the networks and programmers will think of this? I mean it's not that big but are commericals included too :D
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I want to be able to go online and rent any TV show season, or Movie, download it, and have it for a few days so I can watch it at my convienence.
Anti-DRM nazi be damned, I was a fast easy LEGAL way to download video content for my personal viewing pleasure. And I don't mind blowing $2 to rent a movie or season of TV. Heck, I'd even drop 5 bucks on a brand new triple-A movie.
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What formats/codecs are they going to use? Can they be easily circumvented for more permanent downloads?
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With DVRs nearing commonplace (especially in /. circles), Big networks take heed. We aren't watching your commercials. Provide an online streaming service on-demand with all previous episodes of a show, place ads in the stream, and your in the money. Cartoon network is showing some progressive thinking here and I applaud the initiative.
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This is perfect for me and my roommate--we are college students with our own apartment, and can't afford to get even basic cable service ($52.95/mo?!). We have netflix instead, which is fine for me since I don't watch TV anyway, but she misses her Adult Swim. Internet is a necessity, though, so we have 5Mbps downstream cable internet (more than enough for streaming video). Now we can get the one thing we were missing out on--free and legal!
Thank you, Cartoon Network!
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as well as the more comedy oriented shows. I can't get into most of the comedy Adult Swim offerings (but then I don't really care even for Family Guy, sans Stewie - Futurama is about they only comedy I really go for) but I do enjoy a lot of their anime shows. I wonder if their contracts for distribution of anime limit what they can do here? Given how many episodes Inuyasha has I would have thought it would be a prime candidate to offer streams of - if you miss an episode it can be a looooong time before it repeats. BigO I would like to see return (although I did crack and get the DVDs for that one). Cowboy Bebop is an obvious one except I expect they know everyone will tune in to see it anyway (but for goodness sake get it out of the 1:30am timeslot! Even geeks sleep eventually.)
All in all, I must say I have been very pleasantly surprised by Adult Swim - it has definitely broadened my ideas about cartoons - they really AREN'T just for kids. I suppose that's obvious to this crowd, but I didn't know much about anime...
So anyway, hat's off to Adult Swim for daring to try something new and different in the US. Keep 'em coming!
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I recall watching [adult swim] just this last week and seeing a bump (if you don't know what I'm talking about, it's clear you don't watch AS) listing things that definitely WON'T be coming to Adult Swim in the future. One of those things listed was free streaming video on Friday nights. I only wish I could remember what some of the other items on that list were, as it seems the people at Williams Street are pulling another sneaky maneuver like they did with their famous "Aqua Teen Cancellation".
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Does that mean is STARTS Friday the 26th and most of the stream time would actually happen really early on Saturday the 27th? In other words, can I get off work at 5:00 PM on Friday, come home and get sloshed, then watch cartoons from 11 PM until I pass out (instead of coding)?
Just wanted to make sure I'm reading TFA correctly, as I've already fulfilled up to the "get sloshed" part of my Friday night plan and I don't know what to put into iCal, as I am going to forget this news in *whispers* seven days */whispers*.
Why couldn't they have posted this the day before?
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I really like this ideas of TV shows online.
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I remember reading up on the whole streaming video content thing.
It's expected that once connections get to about 20Mbs on the down and I think a couple megs on the up, we'll be able to select and stream full quality video as we see it on the tv.
It's unfortunate that AS has such a limited time frame, but understandable at the same time.
If I ever manage to remember my AS login info,or just be lazy and create a new ID, I'll be on there for sure next friday!
Adult Swim is (arguably) the best thing that CN is noted for, and by doing this they are making themselves a wider audience. Good for business, good for fans. Good job guys!
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From the articles it appears they will only be streaming select content, and even then only during a limited hour timeframe. This does not meet my definition of easy access nor high quality picture.
If I was interested, I'd just watch the shows live or by DVR/VCR, and then later send them my email and IP address.
Watch some of the mature situations (by that I mean intersting to adults, not sex) in shows like Cowboy Bebop, and you'll see that they're not even close to the stupid kiddy cartoons (like PowerPuff Girls or Dragonball Z), or even the good kiddy cartoons (like the original Looney Tunes).
There's not really many examples of American adult cartoons (except maybe Star Trek: The Animated Series), but in Japan adult-oriented animated shows are common, and nobody there thinks "cartoons are just for kids."
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I'd just like to point out that it is the afternoon on Saturday in Australia.
Please carry on with your flaming.
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Somone will figure out how to record it, and float more episodes around the net. Second, this will only increase the number of viewers, as now they don't have to have cable, nor will advirtisments do anything, and it will kill all bandwidth. I love the feature, but will they profit?
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Reminds me of the movie "Dumb and Dumber".
Hey, I agree with you. Anime sucks. It's not because of the tits, it's because the writing is bad, the dubs are bad, and the plots go nowhere.
Anime fans will tell me that the plots and characters are "deep". But really, they're just non-linear and non-sensical. Not the same thing.
So don't fear anime fans because they might be perverts. Fear them because they have no taste, and probably think Harry Potter novels are great literature.
I agree to a point, but a few of the shows thrive off of it. Case in point, Robot Chicken, animating barbie dolls to reinact situations that can't quite (or wouldn't) be done in real life. And Aqua Teen Hunger Force (a happy meal family... what more is good animation going to add? it's supposed to have a happy meal motif, simple bright colors...)
Can't speak for Birdman or the other shows...
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Hey, I agree with you. Movies suck. It's not because of the nudity, it's because the writing is bad, the acting is bad, and the plots go nowhere.
Movie fans will tell me the plots and characters are "deep". But really, they're just shallow and formulaic. Not the same thing.
So don't fear movie fans because they might be idiots wasting their money. Fear them because they have no taste, and probably think the novelty T-Shirts they wear are funny.
Neon Genesis Evangelion is classified in Japan as "for kids". A very strange world we live in.
Adult swim episodes on the internet? Well, uhm... *cough*
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Damnit... i really could have used my daily dose of adult swim tonight. i need my aqua teen. what is a poor stoner to do?
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Actually, Dragonball Z isn't a 'kiddy' cartoon. It was originally intended for a more mature audience. early to middle teenagers, mostly. It's only after it's imported to America that it becomes kiddy-fied, what with the changing of names and language to not 'offend' the 5-10 year-olds. Not to say that Dragonball Z is mature on the level that Cowboy Bebop is, but it's definitely not a 'kiddy' show like Powerpuff Girls.
Why are they only streaming this stuff between 11 and 6?
How about streaming it at other times so people who can't watch at night might actually see it?
I work the graveyard shift (fewer managers, no traffic, more pay, etc) so I'm not home when this stuff is on.
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Hmm... that's a bit of a generalization. I will agree that MOST anime sucks because of the lack of plot/etc., but there are some very very good series out there. Besides, most Western shows are crap as well :)
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If you want something that isn't non-linear/non-sensical, try out Planetes, Monster, or Cowboy Bebop. Monster in particular is slow-moving, but very plot-driven. It's dark and serious for the most part, and I find that the characters are surprisingly "human". I don't think that Monster is licensed in the US yet, but I'm pretty sure Cowboy Bebop is played on Adult Swim, and Planetes is at least licensed over here. Serial Experiments Lain also has a pretty good plot, but it gets kinda weird...
As for your problem with dubs... that's what subs are for, fanmade or otherwise
This was announced a LONG TIME AGO. It took you this long to post it!?!?!?!? Wow...and I thought other people were slow.
Surely you aren't trying to equate cartoons with art!
You're damn right cartoons are art. For instance, Samurai Jack. Also, the Simpsons are absolutely a work of high comic art. They can compete with Oscar Wilde and Shakespeare any day.
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http://edition.cnn.com/ -News fix
http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.html -Not tv or video per se, but strongbad email flash animations are a hoot and close enough
http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/supernatural.html -The show Supernatural online, although I haven't watched it yet. Featured on
http://www.atomfilms.com/ -Everybody knows this one; marginally good
http://video.freevideoblog.com/ -Alot of crap, the odd good video
http://video.google.com/ -Random
http://www.ifilm.com/ -See also atomfilms
http://www.newgrounds.com/ -Way cool, homepage worthy!
http://tv.reuters.com/ - more news video than cnn
http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog - ???, Profit! Actually, I don't know what to say
http://portal.omroep.nl/uitzendinggemist/ -Dutch TV up the wazoo
http://mediahopper.com/portal.htm -1041 tv stations from all over the world listed and ready to watch (as far as I can tell)
http://video.search.yahoo.com/ -Stuff n' things
http://www.youtube.com/ -People upload and share their videos online... you've been warned!
I should add everything here is "family friendly", as far as I'm aware: no porn, uberviolence or gratuitous advertising (if I've somehow overlooked something, I apologise).
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Cartoon Network is the only network I enjoy, aside from my HD National Geographic channel. I think this is a great thing, and it certainly shows that CN has always been a network of the younger generation. With Toonami, and Adult Swim, I feel as if they made a network entirely for me. Great work CN!!
Hey, I agree with you. Anime sucks. It's not because of the tits, it's because the writing is bad, the dubs are bad, and the plots go nowhere.
...probably think Harry Potter novels are great literature.
Hey, now. Let's not make sweeping generalizations. Anime is not a genre, it's a medium, with all the good and bad that go with it. Yes, there is an embarrassingly large pile of anime that sucks a whole lot. But the same could be said for any other medium, such as movies, novels, paintings, poetry, television shows, even internet sites. In any form of expression, there will be a fair percentage of it that will suck. But don't let that large amount of suckage deter you from the gems hidden within.
As to the grandparent post's comments about the anatomical correctness of anime, I say just this: get over it. It's a style. News flash-- the men in anime are just as stylized, over exaggerated and poorly clad as the women. You don't think men really bulge with those kinds of ridiculous muscles, do you? And in the rare case they do, they certainly are not shaped like an upended triangle, with three foot shoulders and a six inch waist. Try not to think too hard about the "anatomical correctness" of the majority of our television and movie stars, either: they seem to fit into a category of person not attainable by mere mortals. Which is fine by me, by the way; I would much rather watch attractive people on my teevee than my neighbors.
Anyone who thinks Harry Potter is not a great series of books is far too cynical to appreciate anything pure. They have successfully injected both compelling storytelling and believable, likable characters into the tired and wheezing fantasy genre, which has not happened since Tolkien.
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Cartoons are for kids
No, they are not. Just like videogames can be for adults and for children - cartoons are for whoever their intended audience is. You, madam, are the idiot parent that would buy age 17+ rated games for your 4-year old child (like, say, "Silent Hill"), then attempt to whine to the press because "all games should be for children" when you find little Johnny playing a survival horror game that involves significant quantites of blood, undead children, entrails - and a visit to hell.
When cartoons were first introduced they were shown to an adult audience. They were at times the subversive underdog of cinema, on occasion being biting political commentaries. No difference here from books or movies - cartoons and videogames are just like any other medium.
They are written and drawn to catch the eye of children who respond to bright colors and geometric shapes
No offense, ma'am, but that's bullshit and an incredibly naive oversimplification. Yes, some cartoons are designed for children. But many aren't. Look at the writing of Invader Zim or any of the Adult Swim set as mentioned in this Slashdot article (Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Space Ghost, SeaLab, Harvey Birdman) - and you'd find that most of the humour goes straight over the heads of any kids watching. It's more funny, more daring - and more subversive - than a world full of "prime time" entertainment that's supposed to be for "adults".
For example, Aqua Teen Hunger Force (one of my current favorites) - is in no way suitable for children. One of the episodes in the recent series had a character (Shake) deliberately kill himself so he could haunt another (Meatwad). Shake writes a bitterly funny and abusive suicide note, swallows a handful of sleeping pills, sticks a car exhaust in his mouth, fills a pool with pirana fish, drops a toaster into the water, then jumps in. And when returning from beyond the grave, he asks another character to bring him back "with math". (Another joke involves the phrase "we are so fucking retarded"). The episode is extraordinarily funny, and in no way for children.
The best animated movies (like, say, The Incredibles) - have done so well at the box office because they are clever enough to work on two levels - to entertain the kids as the adults expect the movie to, but to also give the adults an enjoyable experience (with the lines that the kids don't get) so that the adults won't mind seeing the movie again or recommending it to their adult friends.
I would actually state that "prime time" TV is dangerous to children because it presents an oversimplified, vacuum sealed, sugar-coated, advertiser-approved view of the world that does nothing except teach people to be good little consumer whores.
But what about anime? Do you prefer watching ridiculously drawn women in nothing more than a couple strips of leather battling multi-armed beasts?
Yes, I do. The adult female figure is frickin' gorgeous. Ask any straight male if he likes watching naked women in pornography - 90% will say yes, the other 10% are liars or they're dating a porn star. And I also like watching "Xena, Warrior Princess" (well, I did once) who fights monsters in leather - but that doesn't mean I stalk Lucy Lawless. (I do, however, enjoy dating tall women - and I wouldn't consider it a negative point if they happened to know how to fight monsters and handle weaponry).
Isn't there something fundamentally wrong with someone who associates a children's cartoon with sexiness?
Excuse me? I don't know about you, but I would not want my child watching "ridiculously drawn women" (as you put it), any more than I would want them watching, say The Playboy Channel. This is adult material, inappropriate for children. Do not let your children watch cartoons and anime intended for adults.
I don't want to say that such a person is a pedophile, but I don't think we can deny that anime capitalizes on schoolgirl uniforms as a form of sexual enticement.
there's what cable operators pay to carry us. If we broadcast our material online, whether or not we charge, we've devalued the product.
Why not allow the cable companies to provide the content to their Cable Internet Customers? I.e. - "Log into your Comcast account to access Comcast TV Online" ? And there's your content.
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First off, I'm a woman, so that may taint my perspective. I just don't get adults who watch the Cartoon Network. Cartoons are for kids. They are written and drawn to catch the eye of children who respond to bright colors and geometric shapes.
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Cartoons are for kids? I've seen some cartoons that would make your nose hair curl. Animation is a medium no more or less respectable than any other form. The key difference with Animation is you require less studio space, you don't have to go on location, you don't have to pay people to sit for hours and and deal with crafty make-up.
Now part of the reason that people like my self started to like Japanese Animation was the fact that many shows actually told the story. StarBlazers is a great example of this, many of us as children woke up at 5ish am before school just to catch the next sequence in a long story. Something like Ulysses 31 a childs adaptation of the Odyssey done up sci-fi style. Given the choice between a story or Hanna Barbera any day. And as far as entertainment for kids is concerned... I'd rather give them something with substance like "The Mysterious Cities of Gold" than Pokémon. South Park described that best... "It's not that it's violent, It's just stupid!".
Not all animation is for children. While I'll freely admit that there is much in the way of odd looking women wereing very little or even more odd sailor uniforms... there is other stuff that are full length movies.
Isn't there something fundamentally wrong with someone who associates a children's cartoon with sexiness?
Talk to a cultrue that has laws against filming nudity below the belt. I'm not a henti fan.
I love geek guys. I love it when they talk about math and science or get wrapped up in talking about technology. I just kind of cringe when I hear them talking about anime.
To each their own.
I don't want to say that such a person is a pedophile, but I don't think we can deny that anime capitalizes on schoolgirl uniforms as a form of sexual enticement.
I feel like I'm looking at someone a couple years away from being raided by the FBI for soliciting sex with a minor in a chatroom.
Oh good gawd... the funny thing is while this is a total troll I totally see people who don't understand the concept of what a pedophile is and somehow associate liking animation with being a mentaly disturbed wacko. Pedophiles are people who fucked up they are threatened by secondary sexual attributes and only get their hots on for children. And anyone who enjoyes animated women with huge bazongas and a leather strip or worse yet tigerskin (lum) is pretty much not in that class of sicko. If a guy likes boobies.... a pedo he is not. Some people who enjoy Henti might be a little bit off IMHO... but as long as the stuff they enjoy is between concenting adults I could care less.
It's rather a western idea that animation is for children. Anime isn't typicaly for children. I don't understand why, perhaps land cost is at a premium and it's cheaper to hire artists. Perhaps there are special effects that can't really be pulled off in a cost effective way other than the use of animation. Hendi I believe exists because of laws regarding pornography... either that or it's hard to find people to be degraded in such awful aways... couldn't tell ya. Or perhaps people like the artistic style. But there are tons of reasons why someone might choose to go animated rather than live action.
So don't enjoy animation all you want. Don't enjoy anime all you want. But when you see the popularity of television shows like "Friends" "Three's Company" or "Gilligan's Island", not to speak of all the "Survivor" spinoffs ask your self how much respect you'd have for people who watch that crap. While you may not enjoy Anime... Anime at the very least in almost all cases, even Anime geard tward kids at the very minimum has a story. There might even be a sub-plot. It might not be a good story but that is a vast improvement to "Simple Life". Simply put... I have more respect for a person who watches Speed Racer of all things than "Simple Life".
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Right the fuck on! I live for Adult Swim (except for the Anime). I hope that proves that I have a life. ;)
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So my sample was a bit on the extreme side.
So what would be more likely is that actors and directors would take a pay cut. Special effects budgets would get cut. And movies would almost all get shot on a green screen in a sound both so that location costs (the largest expense) could be cut. So no, movies wouldn't disappear over night, but the quality would likely drop.
Will downloading movies ruin every company? Matters. If 90% of all movie watchers download movies with out paying for them, then likely yes. Either that or theator prices will shot to $30 a ticket and DVD's will cost $60. The point is, why damage them at all? Why not just pay the same rates you pay for a brick and morter rental to get the same service? $2 for a 2 day viewing window with out the hassle of returning the movie.
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So in order for something to be "literature" it has to obtuse and inaccessible? This is the posturing sort of attitude that had me laughing all through my university writing course.
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Actually, the original Looney Tunes although it had a fairly innocent look to it was actually targeted at an adult audience..
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or so on time warner cable's "in demand" channel. So I ask the same question I do about other tv/movie initiatives on the 'net "why?"
No kidding. It got pretty nasty at times - particularly all those Namekkuseijin that Vegeta killed while he was looking for the dragonballs... For that matter, you probably wouldn't get away with Muten Roshi's behaviour in a Western show. Dirty sod.
Toriyama had a really nice thing going on, but he succumbed to the pressure of the fans and extended the anime forever, recycling the same storyline over and over again.
Now come on! There's a great deal of plot variety in Dragonball Z!
For instance, Raditz arrives and beats the hell out of Gokuu. Then Gokuu goes away and trains, comes back, and defeats Raditz.
Then it turns out that Vegeta and Nappa are due to arrive shortly, so everybody trains for ages, then they fight Nappa and get thumped, then Gokuu arrives, beats the hell out of Nappa, goes to some Kaiou-ken multiple, and beats the hell out of Vegeta.
Then Frieza turns up and beats the hell out of everybody. Gokuu trains for a while, fights Frieza, becomes a Super Saiyajin, and defeats Frieza. Here I gloss over the interesting subplot whereby the Ginyuu Toku-Sentai turn up and beat the hell out of everybody until Gokuu arrives and beats them all.
Later, the Androids turn up and beat the hell out of everyone. After recovering from a near-fatal heart condition, Gokuu would have defeated the Androids, if...
... Cell hadn't got there first. But in a surprise plot twist, everyone goes off and trains for a while, then Gokuu fights Cell, then Gohan fights Cell, then Gohan goes SSJ2 and defeats Cell, then Gokuu teleports Cell away to undergo a controlled detonation, then Cell comes back from the dead and Gohan fights him again and wins again.
Then Buu turns up and... well, you get the picture. The plot is completely and entirely different every time. There's nothing in the least predictable or blatantly repetitive about any of this :-)
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I can hardly stand animated shows that are made to appeal specifically to children, but to be dismissive of the category as a whole is tantamount to ignorance. I could point to much of the [AS] line-up, but for our purposes here I'll stick to Harvey Birdman and Sealab 2021. These are shows I understand the mainstream will probably never "get" but I find them refreshingly funny and, dare I say, topical. (If you don't believe me grab the latest HB off of myspleen...)
And to be dismissive of anime as "ridiculously drawn women", this is nothing more than a blatant stereotype. My current favorite, Samurai Champloo, (from the makers of the also excellent Cowboy Bebop) has an amazing heroine. Funny, graceful (at times), and even small chested! I guess you'll have to put away your wide paintbrush now... Of course you'll note I've not even glanced over the plots that are several times more complex than the hash you find on stateside television. (I'm looking at you OC. How my wife watches that, I'll never know. It seems to me the men are written so ridiculously.)
Wow... you must love animators then. Because the only thing worse than an adult that watches an animated show are the adults making them.
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Just out of cuiousity, is ADV Films somehow pulling the strings on this one? Look at the clues:
1. ADV suddenly hands over the keys to their flagship anime series (Evangelion) after years of refusing to license the series to any network that would modify the contents (censoring) or show ads mid-episode. (Barring the ADV-sponsered "Giant Robot Week" Cartoon Network ran a couple years ago.)
2. ADV would have a major interest in seeing something like this work as a way to promote their Anime Network thing they've poured millions into, so that more major cable providers start carrying it.
3. ADV overall financial outlook is not doing so well. Mostly due to them grossly over-esitimating the brief anime fad here in the US. They've blown much of their own capital on trying to milk this fad for every last cent they could get out of it. As a result, they've suffered massive employee layoffs and their product quaality has gone way down while they try to cut as many corners as they can to stay afloat.
If Cartoon Network is really going to offer this, I'd stake money that this is likely a last-ditch, all-or-nothing effort footed by ADV to save what little remains of their reputation before fading completely away.
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So in order for something to be "literature" it has to obtuse and inaccessible? This is the posturing sort of attitude that had me laughing all through my university writing course.
Heartily agree with you there. There are lots of titles of supposed "great literature" that were written for children; The Jungle Book (Kipling) and Alice in Wonderland (Carroll) both come to mind.
And, of course, anyone who has actually READ the Harry Potter series knows that Rowling's writing style has grown right along with Harry. She designed the series so that kids who were the same age as Harry when the first book was released would be able to read more difficult and complex books as the series progressed. The first book may have been written for fifth graders, but the most recent couple deal with issues and situations that I would not expose a 12-year-old to just yet; they would probably be classified as high-school level reading material. Parents may be handing copies of the "Half-Blood Prince" to their 10-year-olds, but I don't agree with it. They are much too complex and intense for that age group.
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Wow, just wow. Cartoons have absolutely no link to pedophilia. I believe most fans of cartoons would tell you that they outright detest the disgusting people who abuse children. I'll say it once again, watching cartoons has no link to underage sexual activity.
Yes some anime capitalizes on the whole schoolgirl thing, but I really don't see much that capitalizes on it intentionally in a sexual way, a lot of live action films capitalize on things like racial and sexual stereotypes so you probably would have complaints about those too right?. You're forgetting that some shows have a completely legitimate reason for what their characters wear. If the series is about a bunch of Japanese school kids then what do you want would you expect them to be wearing? Since Japanese cartoons are still cartoons, you can bet your ass that there will be anatomic incorrectness and exaggerations (there are other forms of art that do this) and stylization according to the head artist's wishes, sometimes this means a 'sexy' look which you usually find in shows that are not targeted at kids. I'd also like to point out that there are shows that go to the flipside of cutsie look, but based upon your predisposition that all anime fans are scary perverts, you'd probably find something wrong with that as well.
Also I'd like to point out that American cartoons, even ones for kids can also be accused of 'idealizing' the human body (See Aladdin). I also find it interesting that you didn't complain about cartoon men that have insanely huge muscles and upper torsos that tear shirts...Or maybe it's because you don't find that for some unknown reason
I doubt being a woman would taint your perspective, there are many women who like cartoons and anime. In fact, in high school I was vice president of our anime club, and out of 15 members, there were only 3 guys who regularly came (including me). The president was a girl.
You seem to be badly misinformed or just ignorantly throwing punches because you really seem to know nothing about cartoons and the 'culture' surrounding them. I bet that you've blamed past relationship problems on cartoons. As someone else said, I bet you really hate the artists who draw cartoons.
I took an online survey (for pay) sometime last semester for Cartoon Network where they demoed a streaing video service.
It was high quality audio and video. Worked fine in the survey, anfd I liked it and let them know.
Glad they decided to go ahead with it.
Of course when you take such surveys you technically arent allowed to talk about them, but I think its ok now.
Another typically enigmatic unexplained US-centric /. story. So what is this "AdultSwim" thing? I've looked at its/their website and am no more enlightened. Something to do with cartoons?
The name made me think of, I don't know, webcams at the local pool? Underwater pr0n?
Liam P. ~ "Intelligence is a lethal mutation." (me)
Yikes. Way to reply to a well worded and thought out post with malice and a large sprinkling of ad-hominem attacks. Maybe next time you could try to be a bit more topical and, you know, not resemble a freak yourself...
The Japanese have a long and strnage tradition of sexualizing the schoolgirl image. It's almost an obsession in certain circles there.
I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day trying to explain why. But, then again, they would probably have a field day trying to explain "Dance Dance Revolution" too. Never has a society been in more desperate need of marijuana.
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
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If the business model makes sense then yes people will care. Comcast (for example) would like nothing more than to offer 'special content', and since they're already paying for said content to air it on TV...
What people don't care about are "pure" technologies with no business model anywhere in sight.
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its the best thing on TV1