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Ballmer - Trusting Vista and Battling Google
Carnivore24 wrote to mention a C|Net article discussing Steve Ballmer's morning keynote at Gartner's Symposium/ITxpo. From the article: "'I have never, honestly, thrown a chair in my life,' Microsoft's CEO said ... Ballmer also touched on a variety of areas related to Microsoft's competition with Google. The software maker will compete 'the good old-fashioned way, with innovation,' he said. 'There are many things--who knows?--Google may or may not do. If you read the papers today, other than curing cancer, Google will do everything.'"
he meant Microsoft, then more power to Google!
Sorry, Steve. I have it on good authority that this is also in their roadmap.
Who believes this screwup and his FUD any more?
Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
I'll root for google up until the day they become too big for their (b)riches, at which point I'll root for the next underdog.
VIVA AMERICA!
You're nothing; like me.
Um, wern't the "old fashioned" ways using teams of hired mercs to wage priovate wars with? Or am I just reading too many M-rated books?
'I have never, honestly, thrown a chair in my life,'
First stage: Denial
What he means folks, is that he has thrown a chair dishonestly.
"I have never, honestly, thrown a chair in my life."
Sure Steve, and I'm not the guy who hacked the announcements system when I was in high school. Face it. It's what you're famous for. Make use of it.
Wow, MS a bit scared of the little search engine that could. And my good old competetion we mean being bullies and playing monopoly.
From the comment above I suspect he's been reading Slashot on a regular basis lately.
Steve Ballmer was quoted as saying "Fucking Mark Lukovsky a is a fucking pussy. I'm going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to fucking kill Mark Lukovsky for starting that chair rumor!" after he denied throwing a chair.
This is my opinion. To make sure you don't steal it, it's covered by the DMCA.
I don't know many cancer researchers who don't use Google, Google news or Google Scholar to keep tabs on their competition.
SLASHDOT: news for people who can't concentrate on work or have no life at all and got tired of yelling back at the TV.
From the article:
"...such as efforts to improve the Web browser and make the operating system more resilient."
Uh - could I uninstall one and keep the other? I doubt it.
"Live as if you'll die tomorrow." Ridiculous. You could die later today.
"'I have never, honestly, thrown a chair in my life,' "
But once I did see a man dance like a monkey...
I work for Steve Ballmer, so I am reading these comments with great interest and no small amusement. He most certainly did not throw a chair. He threw his whole fucking credenza into the hallway and kung-FUDded it to splinters.
Hey, google could be working on that, too...
For decades we've had to face losing important work to power outages. But Internet outages are just as menacing -- and indeed, where one can get a battery to power their digital workhorses there is no such analog for Internet power. Not to mention the inherent threat of viruses spyware or hackers that comes from Internet connectivity, or frankly the less than cohesive user experience and unconsistent interface websites present.
Despite being oft (and many times unfairly) maligned by self-proclaimed computer experts Microsoft has irrevocably broken the yoke of the client-server relationship that has held computing back and is single-handedly responsible for the microcomputer revolution. The last twenty-five years would not have been impossible without them, and it's pure fantasy to suggest otherwise.
Consequently, I don't think it will be a question of whether or not we will be using Vista but merely how Microsoft will have managed to improve upon the mostly unimproveable experience of Windows XP. If they compete with anything, it will be their own success.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
-- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.
Let me extrapolate on Balmer's Microsoft competes the "Good old-fashioned way":
We will own more congressman and senators than Google, and then we will make Google against the law, and then make it illegal for them to index any Class-C address web-site, and then we will buy all Class-B addresses and then patent them, and make it so only Windows machines can reach a Class-B address. After than we will have our congressmen and Senators pass a law making IP-v6 illegal, thereby protecting our hold on addresses. Then we will go to Europe and outlaw X.25.
That's just a good old-fashioned microsoft technology battle.
For not curing cancer?
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
I've never tried Microsoft's search engine. This article made me pause a bit and ask why.
The reason may not be entirely rational, but I just don't feel like I can trust MSN. It isn't just a blanket mistrust of Microsoft; writing a memo on Word doesnt' make me uneasy. I think the issue is that Microsoft has such an obvious lust to control the economic and technological ground on which information is created, processed, stored and distributed, my subconscious impression is that I couldn't rely on their search results as not having some kind of strategic agenda embedded in it.
Of course, may not be wise not to trust Google either, but they are in the informaiton as information business, not in the business yet of setting themselves as the ground on which all transactions have to occur. The most important asset they have is user trust. In many ways, Google is the closest thing we have to the old newspaper business model: we give you information, and support that service by advertising around the information. Newspapers these days tend to be part of media empires with financial interests that go beyond the old fashioned cussede political biases.
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I'm sorry ... but MS has burned us all so many times that no matter what they say, I will never trust them again. I also don't like their attitude and the attitude of their staff (one of their reps described a tech support policy I find abominable, I said I'd never do business with their employer, the rep snottily said 'okay, remove all MS software from your computer', I responded that I long since quit using their crap and that I'm a Mac user... never got a reply. How predictable).
They ignore antitrust rules (most recently, Microsoft Pulls Its Head Out), they make software that ignores standards (IE), they assume their customers are thieves and demand all kinds of crap from us to prove we aren't when no other major OS vendor does that, and they are a convicted abusive monopolist and should have been broken up but are still operating.
Sorry, Ballmer. Sorry, Bill. You lost me a long time ago. You had lots of chances, and that time is way past over. You dug your own hole. Rot in it.
i am a soviet space shuttle
How can I trust an OS that doesn't trust me?
Vista doesn't trust my monitor enough to stream my glorious Blu-ray DVD to the screen... so how can I trust Vista?
MSN is the number one IM client for young people here, and through most of Europe. MSN here is both a noun - "Give me your MSN" and somewhat less frequently a verb - "I will MSN you"
But it refers to the IM service. Almost nobody I know uses the web site for anything productive.
FTA:
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"I'm going to trust Vista on day one," Ballmer said. "I bet most people in this audience will trust it day one--on their home computer," he joked. "I'm trying to be honest among friends."
Sure he'll trust it. He profits from it. I just can't believe anyone would fall for this line of B.S.
Yeah, like he's one of our friends. And the worst part is, TONS of people actually DO fall for this B.S. There are too many sheep on this planet.
Blah! Okay, I'm done ranting now.
TWW
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
There are far too many similarities to ignore .
.. (They also both look like near hairless Gorillas )
Banner Vs Ballmer , they both get mad , turn a funny colour and start throwing things around
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
And I respond with, "Please don't." (:
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Hate to break it to ya Steve old boy, but Google is curing cancer. The Google Toolbar includes Google Compute, which contributes unused CPU cycles to Folding@home, the Stanford research project on protein folding. Potential payoffs of the research include curing some types of cancer.
Flying is easy, just throw yourself at the ground and miss. -Douglas Adams
http://search.yahoo.com/
http://search.msn.com/
-ashot
"I have never, honestly, thrown a chair in my life."
-- Steve Ballmer
I just added this to my quote file, and I'd like to humbly suggest that it'd make a great QOTD for Slashdot. (Taco?)
David Gould
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If they're referring to MSN Messenger, yes. Nobody uses their crappy portal & search, though. MSN Messenger took off in Europe, because it's preinstalled on windows XP (and has nag screens that almost force you to sign up), and there was virtually no competition. ICQ was used, but not that much. AIM never got used in Europe, being an American thing (AOL only recently became an ISP in Europe). But people are growing sick of the ads and extra tabs in the interface, so alternative apps like Gaim and Trillian are slowly getting used more. And once you have a multinetwork IM, nothing's stopping you from signing up on jabber or something else, while keeping your current contacts. MSN's success in Europe and Asia was because it got shipped with the OS before any competitor got a large enough user base (and everyone had a hotmail address anyway).
Steve: Whats over there? ...Ooookay... Now what?
Me: It'a a credenza
Steve: What's it doing?
Me: Nothing, it's a credenza.
Steve: I watch it, what's it do?
Me: Nothing It's a credenza
Steve: I grab it and throw it in the hallway.
Me:
Steve:Does it do anything?
Me: No IT'S a credenza!
Steve: I kung-Fu it's ass!
Me: Like a chair?
Steve: Hell Yeah like a chair! Except I'm going to fucking kill it! You HEAR ME credenza! I'm going to FUCKING KILL you!!!!
or maybe I'm confusing that with another story.
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'I have never, honestly, thrown a chair in my life,'
You've never done ANYTHING honestly in your life, Steve.
Can you say the words "lying sack of shit"?
I knew you could.
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Ballmer said Microsoft needs to continue to invest in research and development to deal with open-source software, Google, IBM and other competitors
He sure likes to challenge the impossible, when will he learn OSS is not a business you cant make it go bankrrupt, when he faces the fact it will always exisit the better and _deal_ with it a bit more positivily and fairly you might actually find OSS developers actually using ms applications instead of trying to debunk it.
The software maker will compete 'the good old-fashioned way, with innovation,' he said.
Innovation?!
That's not the 'good old-fashioned way' of Microsoft that we all know and love!
This type of thing (which occurred just the other day) is the 'old-fashioned' way:
"Microsoft Corp., already under government scrutiny over its behavior toward competitors, told manufacturers of iPod-like portable audio devices that under a new marketing program they would not be allowed to distribute rivals' music player software but pulled back after one company protested." - [more]
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