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Easy, Cheap, Effective Laptop Cooling?

cloudofstrife asks: "I happen to own a laptop that happens to have overheating problems. Frequently during games, the processor will overheat, and the frame rate will drop from over 30 frames per second to under 2 frames per second. Is there a cheap and easy way to prevent my CPU from overheating?"

94 comments

  1. Air? by TheCarlMau · · Score: 1

    Make sure that it is getting plenty of air. For example, are you using it on your lap? If the fan empties on the bottom of the case, your thighs will block the output and result in overheating. You could also trying rising your laptop with extra large plastic feat.

    1. Re:Air? by FireFlie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Along the same lines, if you think cooling is the problem, and you are using your laptop in situations that would permit it's use, I would suggest something that gives a little more of a raise than extra large feet (although they certainly couldn't hurt). I use a griffin icurve, but there are plenty such products out there that will give your laptop a good boost allowing quite a bit of air to circulate around it. An added benefit is that with my particular desk and chair it raises my laptop to eye-level which has helped reduce neck strain after long hours of using it. I think that I got mine off ebay for like 30 bucks (I don't know what you would consider cheap, but for a lot of people that isn't exactly a bank breaker).

    2. Re:Air? by Gilk180 · · Score: 1

      Second that. I've got an Antec riser with a built-in fan. Runs off of a usb port.

      It has done wonders for my PowerBook. I run it with the lid closed and an external monitor sometimes and it used to get really hot when I closed the lid, but the extra fan does a great job.

    3. Re:Air? by poningru · · Score: 1

      Third that, I've got a ... BOOK seriously get your freshmen year Chem book (using it right now) and prop it under the back rubber stubs of the lappy and bam you've got yourself a pretty good air system. Also I have to say that the laptop is not the best thing to use when it comes to game play, just get a freakin desktop.

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    4. Re:Air? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and keep it off of your lap if you ever want to have kids, laptops are a high cause of male infertility - oh, wait, this is slashdot...

    5. Re:Air? by Danious · · Score: 1

      Forget all those expensive commercial riser solutions ($30 for a lump of plastic without a fan???), all I did was get two wedge-shaped rubber door-stops and stuck them under the back corners of my laptop which solved most of my airflow problems. Cost all of $2. If you need more height, use a phone book first :-) Hmmmm, perhaps I should patent the idea...

      John.

    6. Re:Air? by bullring1 · · Score: 1

      I use a old hotplate. I went to the local thrift shop and i bought it for 50 cents. it gives space between the desk and the laptop. i have also been thinking of wiring some fans from Fry's and adding a USB plug from a old (free after rebate) mouse for power. -- http://bullring23.blogspot.com/

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  2. Find an air hose by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And blow the dust out of it.

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    1. Re:Find an air hose by ForestGrump · · Score: 1

      Yea, you could be right there.

      If the laptop is fairly old (1 year or more), there's probably a good deal of dust built up on the heat sinks, etc. So when the fans come on, theyre fairly useless because the dust is like a blanket over everything.

      So yea, simple solution is to blow the dust out of there.

      Grump

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  3. Once again. by Hey,+Retard... · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...ever hear of google?

    Anyway, 10 seconds turned up this.

    http://www.hardwarecooling.com/default.php/cat/33/ Laptop_Cooling

    1. Re:Once again. by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      Nice account name.

      And yeah, submitter, stop being an idiot and think for a moment. Just pointing a small fan at your laptop will make a difference, letting air flow underneath will help more.

    2. Re:Once again. by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hey, Retard (and no, I'm not insulting you, I'm just using the name YOU chose upon YOURSELF)...ever heard of common sense?

      Throwing money at a problem is almost never the right solution.

      If you're going to use Google, at least look for some answer to your question than some unrelated store. You're lucky that he said it was an overheating problem, or you'd've given us a nice page on buying new laptops and felt smart for it.

      Actually, I have a way you could be useful. Why don't YOU pay for whatever stupid device you want him to get?

      And why just 10 seconds of Googling instead of looking for something worthwhile? Is your attention span only 11 seconds?

      (Yes, I'm getting abusive and trollish. I know. But honestly, does a guy named "Hey, Retard..." deserve any better?)

    3. Re:Once again. by eviljolly · · Score: 1

      I don't see how you don't see this worthwhile. The submitter asked a question about overheating and he provided a cheap solution to the problem. It's hard to find a more accurate answer when the question is so vague itself. What kind of laptop is it? How old is it? What type of processor? Has it been serviced at all recently. or even dusted?

      It doesn't really take more than 10 seconds to google something. I think his response was fine. If you're going to troll the poor bastard about not having a good solution, at least try to provide one yourself. Someone had already suggested dusting it and other basic troubleshooting, so what was he supposed to do...make a redundant post? If you know a cooling solution cheaper than what he provided, why not post that instead?

    4. Re:Once again. by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      If you know a cooling solution cheaper than what he provided, why not post that instead?

      Download software that keeps your fan on constantly. (I had to do this to my mom's laptop because it was overheating badly even without processor load.)

      Turn off some devices in Device Manager (or your OS's equivalent), or unplug PC cards / modular disk drives / anything else that can be unplugged.

      Run the laptop in a cooler environment.

      Close other programs, in case it's just overload that's slowing down the computer. (Close Explorer while you're at it.)

      Prop the computer up on something like LEGO blocks so that it isn't building up heat against the table, your lap, etc. Remove it from the table at once if you're ruhning it there - air simply will not flow!

      Check for dust and obstructions in the fan.

      See what the company's warranty will do. Bad components are not unheard of.

      Keep the computer in the freezer (in a tight, nonporous Ziploc bag) when not in use, so that it's much cooler when you start using it. I can't guarantee it's a good idea for a computer, but it worked well on a PC card my dad was having trouble with.

      Slow down your computer's processor (powersave mode) - you'll get a slightly slower framerate, but it probably won't overheat.

      Along with the above, try changing game settings so that it demands less of your processor.

      Place the computer in the path of a good fan.

      And the only solution I list that costs money: Get a laptop without heating problems. I have an original iBook that was designed not to need a fan (partially because of its internal design and airflow, and partially because its rounded shape allows more slots on the side). I have used it in hot climates (90-100 deg F) without even the slightest hint of heating problems - or any noticeable emitted heat from the laptop.

    5. Re:Once again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice. You can offer up a solution that costs $1000 or whatever a new laptop costs but you flame me for offering a $16 solution. And my user name is comedic genius on my part, thanks for noticing. I even have an imitator in the form of Hey Pope Flecher . .. He didn't quite get the punctuation correct, but hey, he's not a genuis like me.

      915400

    6. Re:Once again. by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      You do realize that running the processor cooling fan on high constantly will cause it to wear out fairly quickly if you use the laptop a lot.

      Once the fan is toast, so's you machine.

      Great cheap solution you have there. It's better to bite the bullet and drop $33 on a Vantec Lapcool pad (including shipping) at newegg. It's a bit less expensive than a new laptop and a hell of a lot more convinient than putting the bloody thing in the freezer.

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    7. Re:Once again. by kannibal_klown · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ...ever hear of google?

      I take the "Ask Slashdot" stories to be like starting a discussion. Yes, you can probably find the answer in a few seconds yourself, but someone else who's only somewhat bothered by it might become interested and use one of the suggestions.

      In this example, perhaps some other reader is getting a little annoyed by his laptop overheating, not but only a little. He doesn't feel like spending any real money on the solution as it's not a major problem. He reads the threads out of boredom and finds some simple or cheap solutions and decides to use them.

      There are other examples of a person asking something I'd never even thought of. Reading the story and a few minutes later I'm considering doing something like that myself.

      Remember, we're a slashdot community :-) Sometimes asking a question isn't just for personal gain but for group info.

    8. Re:Once again. by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      Keep the computer in the freezer (in a tight, nonporous Ziploc bag) when not in use, so that it's much cooler when you start using it. I can't guarantee it's a good idea for a computer...

      I can guarantee the LCD will be destroyed.

    9. Re:Once again. by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      The name was picked on purpose. I'm presuming this is someone's second or third account. It exists to point out the obvious to people who should know better. It exists so someone can be sarcastic and rude without harming their other accounts.

      I don't see why the submitter needs to be told to google for "cool laptop", because that's just really friggin obvious.

    10. Re:Once again. by FCKGW · · Score: 1

      And the hard drive. And anything else that responds badly to repeated expansion and contraction from such a drastic temperature change.

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    11. Re:Once again. by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 1

      Agreed. It gets rather annoying to ask a question in IRC or some other forum only to be met with a resounding "Google it!"

      Perhaps I *did* google it, but didn't find anything helpful. Or, in a case like this, perhaps I'm looking for a more homemade solution than one of those cruddy fan-mats they sell at BestBuy. (Both the eraser and the glue-pad were novel ideas, and I might try one of those with my very-hot laptop.)

      Perhaps I would just like some interactive help, just in case something pops up unexpectedly while doing a make.

      Either way, I know that most geeks have a rather low tolerance for stupid questions... but can't we try to be just a little bit more social, especially when dealing with our own kind?

    12. Re:Once again. by John_Booty · · Score: 1

      And the hard drive. And anything else that responds badly to repeated expansion and contraction from such a drastic temperature change.

      And let's not forget the condensation that will most likely form on the ice-cold computer after it's removed from the freezer and used in a normal operating environment.

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    13. Re:Once again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "but hey, he's not a genuis like me."


      Uh huh.

  4. Easy! by TeleoMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just put it in Hillary "Rodham" Clinton's lap.....ooooo. Ouch.

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    1. Re:Easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this up +5 funny.

      Bill Cl.... (hey, give me my laptop back!)

    2. Re:Easy! by Richard+Dick+Head · · Score: 1

      That got me thinking...

      HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON:

      HI! Y AN AC HL TROLL NIMROD!

      AN OLD THIN CHILLY RAMHORN


      Ok, to be fair

      LAURA WELCH BUSH:

      A WHALE CURB LUSH

      BLEW RUSH, UCLA, HA!

  5. pink erasers by entropi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Four of those little pink erasers (the ones shaped like a parallelogram) under the four courners of the laptop does a suprisinglly great job. It cut my cpu fan usage down by a good 80-90% for day to day usage.

    If erasers are unavailable or you want less traction, mini-post it note pads work great as well. They may be preferred if you want to be able to slide the laptop out of the way when you're not using it.

    1. Re:pink erasers by Stevyn · · Score: 1

      That's a really good idea. I wonder if it would also help absorb the vibrations caused by all the fans, cd/dvd, and hard drive? It might also help to cushion the shocks caused by anything hitting your desk. I've banged into my desk many times thinking "oh, so that's why dmesg keeps giving me errors on hda."

    2. Re:pink erasers by PapaZit · · Score: 1

      I love the DIY eraser approach, but if you simply -must- buy something, there are a few different companies out there that make laptop riser stands with fans in them. Some are even powered via USB so that you don't need to worry about carrying another power brick.

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    3. Re:pink erasers by jtroutman · · Score: 1

      Slightly more expensive, but also mroe secure, are adhesive rubber feet, like these at CDW.

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  6. Send it back by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Informative

    Friend of mine ordered a Dell with a comprehensive on site service warranty. The laptop arrived, he installed a game, started playing, frame rate dropped, machine shutdown. He did this about 3 times then said screw it and called Dell. They sent out a technician the same day, the guy replaced the video card, it never happened again.

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    1. Re:Send it back by skwirlmaster · · Score: 1

      Dell is pretty good about these kind of things.

      At work we have many, many laptops. One in particular was for a user who wanted a desktop replacement, so we got him a laptop with a P4 in it (ouch). Well, all went well for a while, then he started complaining about the programs acting strangley, I had him bring it in. I looked at it, tried different things(reinstall programs, etc).

      Eventually I called in told Dell it seemed like it was overheating, jumped through the tech support hoops (Bah), and they sent a guy in the next day. He discovered the cooling system went bad, replaced it. The machine has worked flawlessly since.

      The point (finally): Call tech support if you can, see if you can get something changed out. Your laptop shouldn't overheat.

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    2. Re:Send it back by Intron · · Score: 1

      I was just talking to a service guy last week who said that when they go onsite, there is a strong tendency to replace Something, even if that isn't the problem. The service guy may have just made sure a sprung heatsink was clipped back in place, but replaced a card to make the customer feel good.

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    3. Re:Send it back by shotgunefx · · Score: 1

      That seems right.
      I purchased a Latitude in, I think 2000, might have been 2001. Died after a week or so. They sent out a guy, (He knew nothing of the BIOS settings :O ), just replaced the motherboard. A few months later, the same thing happens. Out he comes again to replace it. Hasn't had a problem since. I'm assuming it was just a bad batch of something or other. Though was very suprised that the tech didn't really know anything about configuring, and just how to replace stuff.

      Though as an aside, I did notice recently when I went to take it apart, that he only put half the screws back in.

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    4. Re:Send it back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you can order from IBM and get better equipment, a free three year onsite warranty, and a lower TCO.

  7. Another suggestion by JeffHunt · · Score: 0

    You could stop playing games on your laptop. Obviously, this seems to be the source of your problems.... heh.

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    1. Re:Another suggestion by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      Likewise, poster could buy a real computer. *tongue in cheek*

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    2. Re:Another suggestion by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 1

      Mine takes up an entire warehouse, and gets almost 1 MFlop at 3 vacuum tubes an hour.

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  8. couple workarounds... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

    A couple of workarounds, not fixes.
    Turn down the CPU speed, if your laptop supports it.
    Place a large flat ice-pack underneath (you can find some with a grid of square cooling units connected so as to be flexible and fit nicely along the edges of coolers).

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    1. Re:couple workarounds... by redfood · · Score: 1

      I used a first-aid style re-freezable ice pack with my old powerbook (AKA "the leg burner") and it was great. The fan never turned on (at least until the ice pack warmed up).

  9. Build one by coolmadsi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You could always build one

  10. Laptop != Gaming Rig by Daxster · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Don't use a laptop as a gaming machine..but it's too late for that, so that won't help you. I just bought a Dell Inspiron 2200 with a Pentium M at 1.7Ghz, and it idles around 40-45C. When I'm gaming and the CPU is maxed and fan is on low, it only goes up to 55C..I think it shuts down around 65-80C.
    Anyways, there are professional laptop coolers you can order from various computer sites. They're basically a fan that sits below the intakes underneath the laptop, which means it's just as easy to build your own. Use a standard 12V fan and run it on 5V (USB is 5V). Quiet, plenty of air, and you'll get much lower temps with and without your standard fan.

    Honestly, there's no point to more than 2Ghz on a laptop..especially with a P4 or latest AMD chips. Way too hot, and way too much power usage.

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    1. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by CMiYC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Honestly, there's no point to more than 2Ghz on a laptop..especially with a P4 or latest AMD chips. Way too hot, and way too much power usage.

      Perhaps in your use-model there is no point, but not in mine. For example, I spent over 50% of my time with customers. When I'm in the office, it wouldn't make sense for me to use a different computer. So if I need to run a simulation, offline (from our equipment) protocol decoder, or copy a file (XP jab *grin*) I want my 2GHz. I don't mind only having full power available when I'm on AC.

      So just because you don't see a need for something, doesn't mean there isn't one.

    2. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Way too hot, and way too much power usage.

      Power usage isn't a problem if you're plugged into the mains though. A lot of people use laptops at home where the weight of the machine and a mains supply aren't a problem.

    3. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      Because regular PCs are prohibitively expensive for home use?

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    4. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by Threni · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, which question are you answering?

    5. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      Sorry for being unclear, I was in a bad mood and was making a snide comment on:

      A lot of people use laptops at home where the weight of the machine and a mains supply aren't a problem.

      My short and rude argument was that if the weight of the machine and a mains supply aren't a problem, why not just buy an equivalent desktop system for $1000 less.

      I'm not normally so Trollish, I am sorry =[. I just cannot see the benefit of wasting money on inferior systems simply for an illusion of convenience. In a job where you have to move around and take critical data with you, a laptop is certainly necessary, but paying $1000 more just so you can check your email while you watch TV? That seems needless.

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    6. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by jimmypw · · Score: 0

      I agree i dont understand why anyone would want to use a laptop as a gaming machine. Especially when you can buy a tower of twice the spec for half the price. Not to mention the laptop keyboards with the most abnormal positioning of specal keys.

      I find a good air circurlation in the room is mandetory and the easiest way to achive this is to open a window and put the laptop next to it. Secondly DO NOT USE YOUR LAPTOP ON YOUR LAP ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A MAN! Infertility has been linked to prolonged use of laptops on your lap and also creates unnecessary recirculated heat. Use a table, we are all slashdotters but we all have a right to start a family. and last but not least what the parent thread said.

    7. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by TeknoHog · · Score: 1
      Don't use a laptop as a gaming machine..

      Why not? If the laptop was designed to run $CPU, it should damn well take the heat that comes with running $CPU. I use my laptop for running physics simulations and music production, both of which mean "field work" with relatively high processing power.

      In general, I think it's very pessimistic and anti-hack to limit the use of an appliance to only its intended purpose. If I want to use my old 486 laptop as a web server, I might damn well do so, because I can, even though it was not sold as a server. Labeling computers for different purposes is mostly just a marketing gimmick.

      Honestly, there's no point to more than 2Ghz on a laptop..especially with a P4 or latest AMD chips.

      And 640 KB ought to be enough for everyone.

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    8. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by Threni · · Score: 1

      > I'm not normally so Trollish, I am sorry =[. I just cannot see the benefit of
      > wasting money on inferior systems simply for an illusion of convenience. In a job
      > where you have to move around and take critical data with you, a laptop is
      > certainly necessary, but paying $1000 more just so you can check your email while
      > you watch TV? That seems needless.

      You be as trollish as you like, mate - it's a free country*.

      I don't understand this $1000 business. I just bought a HP laptop from PC World for £400 ($707.60 at todays rate) including delivery to my house. It's got xp, 256megs of ram, a 15inch tft monitor, cd writer/dvd reader, wifi etc. It plays directx games, gets me online etc and it's pretty small and light as it goes, with a decent battery (although the latter two were not criteria for it's purchase). When I'm not using it I just stick it above here DVD player - you can hardly see it.

      Are you suggesting I could get an equivalent desktop pc for $-300? Where? It was not a needless purchase because it's for use at my girlfriends house, and she doesn't want a huge pile of s*** in the corner of her front room. If this is an illusion of convenience then it's certainly a very powerful one!

      Have a nice day!

      *Where applicable.

    9. Re:Laptop != Gaming Rig by bamf · · Score: 1

      Nope, because regular PCs don't fit on your lap when you're sat in front of the TV.

  11. DIY Feet by durandal61 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This probably will not solve your issue, but it's kind of neat, so I'll mention it anyway.

    You need:
    • One glue gun.
    • Several glue sticks.
    • One small (a bit over 5cc) syringe.
    • Saliva or some other water-based lubricant (you do have some, I presume?). Glycerine might also work.
    • Various small items that you'll gather as you go.
    • Sharp knife.


    Take your syringe and cut it in half. My memory is a bit patchy about this bit, I did it a long time ago. 2 to 2.5 cm should be long enough (from the tip). Lubricate the inside of the tube. Again, I can't remember what I lubricated it with, but saliva works well, particularly when it comes to smoothing down imperfections in the glue while it is still hot. Fill the 2 cm of tube. Allow it to cool and pull out the glue plug. Repeat four or 5 times. Cut these cylinders down to size, 1 or 1.5 cm should do it. If for some reason they are not all the same height, instead of hacking away until there's nothing left, take a vice and place them all in it, and tighten slightly. Apply a hairdryer to the whole thing until the glue has adopted it's new shape. Allow to cool and remove the glue feet.

    You're done. You now have small, rubbery, cheap feet for your laptop. They will even stick ever so slightly to case if it's warm, convenient if you want to pick it up briefly.

    I carry these little feet in my laptop bag, and they help reduce the procesor temp. You don't have to use all four, you can just prop up the back and it will help.

    Hope someone finds this useful.

    Paul
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    1. Re:DIY Feet by Daxster · · Score: 1

      I did this for an old steel AT computer case, and it worked very well. Just some blobs of glue. It looks cool and didn't scratch my hardwood floor - but they came off as soon as it dragged on carpet.
      Hot glue doesn't like to stick to things once it isn't so hot, so your idea works pretty well for temporary boosters :-)

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    2. Re:DIY Feet by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      After my PowerBook's rubber feet fell off, I picked up some replacements at the local Ace Hardware. As far as keeping it cool, I've been keeping a few of these cold compresses in rotation from the freezer. It's the perfect size for a 12 inch laptop.

    3. Re:DIY Feet by Daxster · · Score: 1

      How do you stop condensation? Wouldn't the cold pack be literally dripping with it?

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    4. Re:DIY Feet by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      One layer of towel. If using my computer on a damp towel is going to kill my computer or myself, I don't want to know about it.

    5. Re:DIY Feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're done. You now have small, rubbery, cheap feet for your laptop. They will even stick ever so slightly to case if it's warm, convenient if you want to pick it up briefly.

      I carry these little feet in my laptop bag, and they help reduce the procesor temp. You don't have to use all four, you can just prop up the back and it will help." ...Probably why I never had heat problems, save for the dead of summer with games that outclass my laptop in rooms with no air conditioning. ;)

      Geez, though, how the hell is this not standard on laptops? My cheap-ass $1k special (it's a freakin' POS Compaq, for all love!) has 'em built in.

      Dude, I'm never buyin' a Dell.

    6. Re:DIY Feet by durandal61 · · Score: 1

      But how could it be standard? At over 1 cm in height, they'd be way too bulky. Or is that not what you meant? Perhaps you're not referring to the raising feet I suggested.

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    7. Re:DIY Feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Take your syringe and cut it in half. My memory is a bit patchy about this bit, I did it a long time ago. 2 to 2.5 cm should be long enough (from the tip). Lubricate the inside of the tube."

      OK, it's cut in half. Now... oh. Tube? I cut it lengthwise, and have two long half cylinders.

    8. Re:DIY Feet by dascandy · · Score: 1

      You could just put your laptop on a bunch of self-adhesive feet you can buy at any home depot-ish store. They come ready-made!

    9. Re:DIY Feet by durandal61 · · Score: 1

      Self-adhesive feet are a permanent solution. They cease to be useful the minute you close the lid and want to put the thing in a bag or briefcase. The advantage of these (or any other similar) feet is that they are outrageously large for good ventilation but come off as soon as you don't have a use for them. Paul

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  12. Defective? by yamla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your laptop is clearly defective. Why aren't you returning it?

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    1. Re:Defective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just place a big ice cube under the machine

    2. Re:Defective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would that cool his machine while watching porn?

  13. Antec's Notebook Cooler by noth(a)nk.you · · Score: 1
    I keep my Dell Inspiron 5100 (~2 yrs. old) running 24 hrs/day. I started looking for cooler after a few mornings of waking up to it hot to the touch. A little research turned up the best option as Antec's Notebook Cooler.

    It's definitely not as portable as the hot glue pads above, but it does its job well on my desk and keeps the heat away from my legs on the couch.

    If you want more info, there's Antec's Website, a quick Google search turned up a good review, and they're all over eBay and Froogle.

  14. I may not be getting it all. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    But the frame rate dropping to 2, is an indicator that the CPU HAS slowed down.

    1. Re:I may not be getting it all. by ForestGrump · · Score: 1

      Or it could be the GPU overheated and slowed down.

      And from my experience, the GPU is placed under the keyboard (in the Dells I've seen anyway). So play some 3D game for a while the keyboard gets really hot.

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  15. Two words: by SaidinUnleashed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dry Ice.

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    1. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may laugh but on hot days I used to stick one of those icepacks that go into coolers under my laptop. I wrapped it in a dishcloth to absorb the condensation. It's not the most efficient method of cooling (it takes a few minutes to kick in), and the icepack warms up within an hour or so, but it got me out of a jam several times.

  16. Get a fan by cgenman · · Score: 1

    If you don't mind building up your laptop a little bit, get an 80mm fan and place it in front of wherever your laptop intake is. Run it to the 5v USB line, or a 12v firewire line (5v USB ought to be enough, but some laptops don't power their USB line). Make sure to give this fan an opening... if on the bottom, give it enough feet to get a good, clear airflow.

    If you have a standard workspace, build a cool stand. Take an old monitor stand, mount some fans underneath pointing upwards, and drill a heck of a lot of holes. If you get really quiet fans, and feed them off of a 5v wall wart, you can run them constantly without any noticable noise. Or give your laptop some little rubber feet, and run the fans across the desk (though that has the annoyance of blowing air across your hands).

    You can also take the fan and run it into a plastic bladder with holes poked in it. This gets targeted air underneath your laptop, but usually looks terrible.

    And if it is overheating in your lap: open your legs. Nothing cools a laptop faster than spreading them. No seriously, it improves the airflow and... why are you all snickering? Geeze... Kids.

    1. Re:Get a fan by flawedgeek · · Score: 1

      Just an fyi, but firewire is +5VDC as well. The benefit, however, would be that firewire provides quite a bit more amperage than USB, so you could run more off of it. Besides, with USB 2.0, who needs firewire?

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  17. cooling... and advice by chrysrobyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You asked how to cool your laptop. There are any number of laptop stands with fans built in. The ones I've seen run off of USB power. I just bought my wife one from Fry's which was $25. Amazon has one here. Just do a simple search for "latop stand fan" or something.

    If your brand new PC overheats and causes problems, maybe you should be returning it or getting some warranty service performed.

  18. How about Iraq? by Lumet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What should I tell my friend that is Iraq to do about his labtop shutting now?He can't lower CPU speed. He has the fans that you put underneath the labtop. Any idea?

    1. Re:How about Iraq? by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      Put on a big coat, put the laptop underneath, around the chest area.

      Run headlong at a US checkpoint, shouting "American pig dogs" (optional)

      viola, the laptop now has ventilation holes

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    2. Re:How about Iraq? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      my friend that is Iraq

      Iraq is not your friend!

    3. Re:How about Iraq? by temojen · · Score: 1

      Try putting it on a big cookie sheet or better, a chunk of plate aluminum bigger than the laptop (as a big heat sink). Unless he's in the more lush areas it's not a good idea to blow into the machine (sand)

  19. Compressed Air! by falcon203e · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Step 1: Buy some compressed air. Step 2: Hold aerosol can upside down. Step 3: Step 4: Point nozzle through ventilation holes towards laptop CPU heat sink. Step 5: Spray. Works like a charm. I'm not even joking.

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    1. Re:Compressed Air! by dascandy · · Score: 1

      Step 3: Profit ?

    2. Re:Compressed Air! by Vampo · · Score: 1

      Make sure you have a hairdryer handy. An upside down compressed air can (most of them anyway) spurts out liquid which evaporates really fast but condensation creeps in just as fast. Even if condensation doesn't form, PCBs don't like being frozen very quickly especially only from one side.

  20. lego by rednuhter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    lego, do I need to explain ?

    I was using my laptop to transfer old CDROMs onto an USB hardisk and the unit was getting so hot the disk when ejected almost burned the skin.
    I created a lego four sided wall (four blocks high) just smaller than the base of the laptop and added lots of holes, the heat was reduced tremndously.

    I used only classic 2x4s.

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  21. Remove the battery! by UnahaClosp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Temporary remove the battery if it's not in need of charging. The brand we use at my company runs the fan regularly, we started removing the battery from our laptops when an adapter was near and the fan only ran once or twice per day instead of every 10 minutes.

  22. Linux and Windows by missing_myself · · Score: 1

    I have a x1000 with Pentium 1.6GHz. I find that unless I do some CPU intensvie job like kernel compiling my CPU freq stays at 600Mhz. Therefore the fan turns on rarely - for example only when I play tuxracer/kernel compiling. Is such a speed step built in windows XP also? Because when I keep the system on in XP every 20 min or so the fan kicks in? Is it normal or...

    1. Re:Linux and Windows by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Informative

      SpeedStep IS built into Windows XP. However, the Windows algorithm blows chunks.

      http://pbus-167.com/ has Notebook Hardware Control, which can control SpeedStep, undervolt the processor (be careful with that one - it can kill stability), allow you to change the multiplier to any multiplier in a 1x increment from 6 to the max stock multiplier for your CPU (in your case, 16).

      All SpeedStep does is lower and raise the multiplier as needed...

  23. VHS tapes by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    If you remember what these are (I bet the young'uns may not in the DVD area), these make an excellent laptop stand. Put the back of the laptop on the tape, let the front of the laptop sit on your table. Not only will it improve cooling, it will put your keyboard at a more comfortable angle.

    Other solutions - Make sure your heatsink and fans are clean. If your laptop used to be fine and is now overheating, it is probably because of dust accumulation. Also potentially use a software solution that increases fan speed. I use i8kFanGUI on my Dell Inspiron 8200 under Windows, and i8kmon from i8ktools under Linux. Both allow you to increase the fan speed above BIOS defaults, yet retain temperature control. (The BIOS defaults tend towards allowing a very hot machine.) As posted by others, "always-on" solutions will wear out your fans early. If you hear any signs that your fans are dying (buzzing, etc), replace them. Almost all laptop manufacturers sell replacement fans.

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  24. SMALL? (semi-OT) by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    As someone who uses syringes multiple times a day (type 1 diabetic), a 5cc syringe is HUGE!

    I use 3/10cc on a regular basis.

    Finding a 5cc syringe legally is going to be tough. Well, finding ANY syring 100% legally will be tough, but at least the sub-CC ones can usually be obtained from one of your diabetic friends. :) I'm pretty sure insulin syringes are the most common syringes in existence, as Type 1 diabetes the most common disease that can be treated only with injections.

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    1. Re:SMALL? (semi-OT) by Webmoth · · Score: 1

      "...Finding a 5cc syringe legally is going to be tough. Well, finding ANY syring 100% legally will be tough..."

      Yes, it will be tough if you go to the neighborhood drug store. You'll have to ask the pharmacist. You see, they've had so many heroin addicts shoplifting them, they've had to put them under lock and key.

      Thankfully, the heroin addicts aren't smart enough to figure out that the local farm supply store has them on the shelf, out in the open, any size you want. Needles, too. No questions asked.

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    2. Re:SMALL? (semi-OT) by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Or just ask for a medicine dropper syringe. My pharmacist gives me a handful every time I get a liquid perscription filled for one of my toddlers.

  25. What if by sheldon · · Score: 1

    The Air Hose I find doesn't have any dust in it?

  26. Move to Canada? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (I'll get my coat)

  27. Fan settings by booch · · Score: 1

    I had an old Dell notebook that overheated (enough to stop PCMCIA cards from working). I found it odd that the fans never really ran much. I found a BIOS update that lowered the temparature thresholds of when to start and stop the CPU fans. That helped a bit. Then I found a program called i8kfan that allowed me to choose the temperatures at which to turn the fans on, or to force them on. This helped a lot -- I never had problems again except for when I wasn't running i8kfan. The program works on most Dell laptops. I've seen similar programs for other vendors. There's also an i8kfan driver available for Linux, and I think Linux' APM and/or ACPI drivers have some generic fan controls that work for some notebooks.

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  28. Yes there is a solution: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop. Playing. Games.

  29. It's the VIDEO card... by drew_92123 · · Score: 1

    I'm about 90% certain of this, we just had the same thing happen on 2 laptops a few weeks back. Why the guys at work were playing games... well... let's not go there...

    We would get a slow down after 5-15 minutes of game play, exit the game and everything was normal in maybe 30 seconds. During this time the CPU fan was running like a banshee. We figured it was the CPU overheating so we ran prime95 on it for 2 hours with no trouble. We ran Cinibench and had no problem. We ran tests on the memory and hard drive and found nothing. The trouble would only appear in games, we reinstalled the drivers, even tried beta drivers, and no luck...

    Finnally as luck would have it one of the guys wanted to compare his laptop performance to his computer at home and he ran 3D Mark on it. BAM! the problem occured in the middle of the test.

    Anyway, we finnally called tech support after messing around for 3 days, and managed to get to somebody who could tell us what was happening after around 2 hours on the phone.

    Turns out that there was a batch of mobile graphics chips that just wasn't quite up to snuff, they simply put out too much heat, something like 30% over what the max spec said. We sent our laptops in and had them back in a few days with new video cards and they problem was solved.

    Hope this helps!

  30. Something Wrong... by Kichigai+Mentat · · Score: 1
    Well, there's definately a problem here.

    I own an Apple iBook G4 (1 GHz model). The first thing I bought for it was a copy of Halo. Yes, I know laptops are not meant for gaming, but I couldn't resist. My laptop, on battery power, pulling a light load (e-mail, IM, web browsing) it runs around 90F. Pulling a heavier load, on battery, the system runs more like 110F. Pulling a heavy load on AC power, the machine maxes out at 150F, and the (remarkably small) fan (singular) manages to keep the laptop from getting any hotter.

    I've owned two other laptops, both Toshibas. One was a Portege (486), the other was a Tecra 520CDT. No idea how hot they ran, but after a point, the Tecra's fan kicked in, and would manage to keep the machine coool, no matter what it was pulling.

    My friend's iBook (1.5 Ghz) has no reported overheating problems.

    I've taken my iBook apart, I know how small it is, and how cramped it is. By my estimations, it must be a ventilation nightmare. The hottest point is near the center of the laptop, right under my keyboard. It has one itty bitty fan, near the back of the computer, where there's a screen. This machine should be hot, it should not be easy to cool. Yet this machine manages to stabilize. "Yeah, but that's just 1 GHz, running a PowerPC chip that Apple bought because it runs cool." Hence the small fan.

    My teacher's monsterous HP Pavilion laptop runs a more power hungry, and hotter Pentium chip of some kind, as well as a high powered GPU with a dual head. He has a pair of gigantic fans on the bottom of his laptop, and has much higher ground clearance. It's got heatsyncs right up to the vents, etc. etc.

    This machine runs hotter, so it was designed to accomdate that. Your laptop should have been designed to accomdate the heat output. If it is unable to handle it, it is either (A) A design flaw or (more likely) (B) Defective.

    Have the manufacturer look at and repair it.

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    1. Re:Something Wrong... by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

      An interesting note about the iBook. I run a 14.1" 1.25gig ibook. I network regularly and play two games predominantly. The Halo which you mentioned causes my laptop to run at a testicle blistering tempreture. Warcraft 3 on the other hand is smooth and creamy, taken in stride. The only thing I could image causes that, in my very non-technical estimation, is that different parts of the graphics card run hotter than others. Or maybe there is more of a load on the CPU or graphics card in one or the other.