5 Years of Habitation on the ISS
An anonymous reader writes "The International Space Station has marked five years of continuous human habitation. People started living on the station on November 2, 2000. In five years, the station has hosted 97 people from 10 countries, including 3 commercial passengers. It survived through the Columbia accident and the suspension of shuttle flights. The station is a testbed for long-duration missions to live and work on the Moon and Mars."
How long until the beleaguered French government notifies the invading Muslim punks rioting in cities throughout France that they officially surrender? Smart money is betting on less than two weeks, 'cause that's how long they lasted against the invading Germans in 1940.
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"The station is a testbed for long-duration missions to live and work on the Moon and Mars"
More like, "The station is a tremendous waste of money."
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Slashdot and a space station are almost indistinguishable.
"It survived through the Columbia accident"
You don't generally notice space stations disappearing when a shuttle explodes. You generally see them stay right where they are and continue to be space stations. Very few people would go "oh lets just knock it out the sky, who cares?" when it's the only space based human colony (small though it is).
I like muppets.
Why live on the moon and mars? And who can afford to? Let's fix the oceans and live in them, that's more feasible than the moon and mars.
I'm trying hard to find a solid list of scientific accomplishments for the mission. So far, I'm finding a handful of research articles on microgravity-related changes in human physiology. Hopefully there's more.
I hope the major accomplishment of the ISS isn't just keeping it in orbit.
"The station is a testbed for long-duration missions to live and work on the Moon and Mars."
How is it a test bed for that? Sure, the structure is still up there... I'm pretty sure that isn't the hard part about getting to Mars, or even the moon. The hard part is keeping a human alive in there without resupply, in-gravity exercise, etc. None of which the station helps with.
-Daniel
Jeez... What's taking so long. Five years and it's not done yet. Here is a better article:d _iss_fifthyear.html
http://space.com/businesstechnology/051102_techwe
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5 Years of Habitation on the ISS
Its this slashdot or what? WOW! I thought they would scrap it right after they spend my taxmoney on it!
The news these days. Can't wait for Scuttlemonkey with his FUD...
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
That comes out around a cool $1 Billion per visitor. And so much has been accomplished. Such a deal.
Ask yourself this, when you think of the ISS are you filled with pride, satisfaction, or a general, meh. Yep, it is the most expensive "meh" in history.
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I'm trying hard to find a solid list of scientific accomplishments for the mission.
How about accomplishments outside of the scientific domain?
People of all colors, gender and race from more than a dozen nations have floated above our heads like biblical angels in peace and harmony.
Achieving nothing.
Yes, I agree, NASA does cost a lot of money, however I disagree that it's a waste of my money.
Why would someone build an entire city under sea level knowing full well the ocean might someday come in and destroy it? Ask the residents of New Oreleans.. Any my tax dollars are going to help clean that up.. b.s.
Why would someone continue to give money to the homeless for years and years and the homeless situation not improve? I'm sorry, but if you're still homeless after 2 years of us trying to help you then you should be deported to Canada. Let them deal with your sorry butt instead of my tax dollars.
Why should you keep a person on death row for 30 years before putting them to death? I'm sorry, but their needs to be a time limit on that. Again, why waste my tax dollars.
At leased we have something to show for the space program unless the thousands of other programs that are just draining our system.
Yes, I know.. I'm gonna get bad Karma for this.. Not all people are equal, not all choices are correct, we need to help our fellow man(woman), we need to balance the budget. Remember, the USA wasn't built on political correctness, it was built on us kicking out the brits.
Obama = Socialism.
Actually population growth is slowing quite dramatically and there is an expectation that the world population will hit a maximum of about 9 billion people (only 50% higher than today). The easiest/cheapest way to deal with over population is to educate women in the third world. Then the next best way would be for humans to populate the arctic and oceans (more than 2/3rds of the world surface)
that's a special olympics in space.
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Think of all the "space-age" technology you have today. Your cell phone, compact radios, great insulation, etc etc. All that was developed from technologies made for the original moon-shot. Expecting benefits from pure research and development in 5 years is insane. Although the station does suck allot of money, it will pay off in the future in new synthesis technologies, habitat sustainability, launch, and commumication technologies.
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There is absolutely no realistic way that "space colonization" will help with the worlds population problems, at least not in the forseeable future.
Once robots are ubiquitous (definitely in the forseeable future) and "the singularity" (not M$'s) happens, I think humanity will become more like benign pets anyway.
The next replier, who mentions the Moon as a mining source, hits the nail on the head. Also, scientific research in zero-g is the way to go. Thats really what any space station should be about.
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I think the Rooskies should rename the station the ISSR. It's basically theirs now anyway.
I'll form my OWN solar system! With blackjack! And hookers!
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We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
It is so much cheaper to colonize Antartica than the Moon or Mars, and so much more practical. Plus, after global warming, it may actually be comfortable.
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We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
Hey! I wonder if PBS will have a show in 50 yrs or so called "This Old Space Station". Just imagine the tools that the Norm counterpart will have! Mmmmmmmm, power tools.
Evil people don't think they're evil. - George Lucas, Making of Ep III
What's funny is that I initially read the headline as "5 Years of Inhabition on the ISS". I was thinkin, "man, the project must be being run by UC Chico". NASA will be pissed to find out that they've been using cooling hoses and o2 tanks as beer bongs and leaving used condoms on the $50mil experiments.
Actually, wasn't it built on talking the French into doing most of the fighting for us?
Just splitting hairs here.
Evil people don't think they're evil. - George Lucas, Making of Ep III
"International Space Station has marked five years of continuous human habitation."
And I bet it smells like it too.
Clearly the French are less gullible than they used to be!
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It's the subject of the only Tom Cruise movie you can admit to watching, that uber-kewl 3D IMAX documentary.
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I think maybe part of the underlying "meh" to the ISS is the fact that it is so fragile. People think of space stations as self sustaining settlements in space and the fact that people are staying over night in space is not enough to fulfill that image. If you are feeling down, just realize that the ISS is a necessary step to that dream of the self-sustained space city.
5 years? Big deal? Chris Kraft (former "Flight" in the early days of NASA) summed it up in his autobiography: the space shuttles, the space stations, they are all a cop-out and pretty much a waste of time. We should be on the moon, on Mars, not wasting time in low orbit! We already know how to stay in orbit with a zillion satellites and launches under our collective belts. We need to get back to the hard stuff.
Give me a f***ing break. From Wikipedia, the "it ain't necessarily trustworthy, but it's readily available" reference:
"Teflon is the brand name of a polymer compound discovered by Roy J. Plunkett (1910-1994) of DuPont in 1938 and introduced as a commercial product in 1946. It is a thermoplastic fluoropolymer."
And...
"The photovoltaic effect was first recognised in 1839 by French physicist Alexandre-Edmond Becquerel. However it was not until 1883 that the first solar cell was built, by Charles Fritts who coated the semiconductor selenium with an extremely thin layer of gold to form the junctions. The device was only around 1% efficient. Russell Ohl is generally recognized for patenting the modern solar cell in 1946 (US2402662, "Light sensitive device"). Sven Ason Berglund had a prior patent concerning methods of increasing the capacity of photosensitive cells."
And no, NASA didn't invent Velcro, either.
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Too bad that the ISS is in the wrong orbit to be useful for much manned exploration of the Moon or Mars. It doesn't look like Nasa is thinking about doing anything about this, it wouldn't be an easy thing to change but far cheaper than building a new station.
Too bad it's due to burn up in our atmosphere and such if it isn't pushed into its correct orbit again..
(I think that link will sadly be relevant to every NASA discussion in the future.)
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Wasn't there a leap year in there somewhere?
I could see the truth if I was blind.
... manned space travel vehicles work!
And the ISS is alive thanks to them.
I also think communism doesn't work, but if they've done that with a bad economic system, well... even worse for NASA, huh?
Anyway, private space vehicles will probably redefine launcher cost effectiveness from now on.
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Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away.
It was built on kicking out the Native Americans? Sorry, no. The end goal of American colonization was not kicking out the native americans. You could make the argument that it was built, at least in large part, by kicking out native american populations or strongly discouraging them from living as they did (or even inadvertently making their lifestyle irrelevant in a modernized context), but to say that somehow the reason 'we' came to America was to displace the poor red men is patently absurd. If you want to argue over westward expansion, the jeffersonian ideal, and Manifest Destiny, fine. Indian-kicking was a side effect of a political enaction of the supposed Dominion Mandate from Genesis, among other things. It was not a goal in itself.
that would have been a scary article! *sheesh*
the only permanence in existence, is the impermanence of existence.
Getting to space with a fuel to cargo efficiency of 100:1?
That's just a huge waste of fuel. Then what space exploration can there be?
Space exploration = nuclear engines or better.
... the whole is a massive waste of time and money.
Except there's spinoff - literally and figuratively.
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me too...
It's weird. Someone else said the same exact thing last week. I have no idea where people got that idea. NASA doesn't even claim that they did. Aparently they did create some odd material that contains teflon. I know because I looked it up on the NASA spinoff's site. Hopefully even more trustworthy than wikipedia.
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
But when the airplane was new, it was within the realm of reality to go build one yourself. "Pilot's license" ... A what? If you look at the history of aviation, it's full of half-crazed poineers who built their own craft, sometimes dying in the process. But the DIY opportunity existed. It still does, though highly regulated by the gub'ment.
... a major cost being the insurance that's required. "Small" spacecraft are typically 500-1000 kg, and cost millions to get into orbit. The test and acceptance procedures are draconian. They're also in place to reduce the risk that your mission will hose the launch vehicle and impact all the other paying customers.
Fast forward a half a century, and you'll see a bunch of folks doing experimental rocket launches. Many are privately funded. Lots of folks did dangerous things. Some were successful.
Nowadays, we're completely risk-averse. Launches are prohibitively expensive
I'm depressed at the amateur and university efforts. Everyone seems to launch a Mode-J repeater or a camera or the same old and tired missions that have been accomplished in LEO for the last 20 years. Yeah, it's more affordable to launch a Cubesat payload, but most of those fly hacked digital cameras or hacked hand-held radios. Let's face it - LEO is boring.
Dammit. Now I just rambling. Getting back on-topic, it's virtually impossible for average folks to participate in space exploration with the same opportunities presented by aircraft. Space travel is difficult, but we've put up legal and cost barriers to prevent widespread participation. Yes, crashing a rocket into your neighbor's house is a bad thing, but so is flying your homebuilt aircraft into your neighbor's house. I strongly suspect that NASA needs to control space flight opportunities, or it will cease to exist (or worse, become the red-headed stepchild of the FAA.) The politics have gotten in the way of progress. Beyond that, we're going to need to invent new propulsion technologies to make spaceflight more common. You can't negotiate with the physics - there's an energy cost associated with getting to LEO. It doesn't matter what fuel you use, you need to have a delta-V of about 7km/s to maintain orbit. How you do that is up to you, but right now it's really expensive.
Is that really 5 years of continuous habitation? I seem to remember not too long ago that it was temporarily closed and then reopened by a crew that checked the air etc. Is this a phantom memory or is somebody having fun with revisionist history? Doesn't the definition of continuous require a warm body to be there constantly?
name a country that can actually get to it? was getting to it ;)
so RSS it it... USA been slaking off in the development to replace shuttle - come on, lets get those rockets converted...
not sure how will they (US) launch bigger cargo.
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So, what you're saying is 'God plays dice'?? :0p
"five years of continuous human habitation"
;)
Is it really continuous if the occupants left the station? I guess hanging off the outside counts.
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No. The French provided a lot of support, but until the last few years, they weren't involved militarily in the US revolt. They did delivery at crucial times (eg, aiding by helping bring in talent to train and lead the American troops and imposing a naval blockade at Yorktown to force a British surrender) and were a key reason for the success and relatively short duration of the war (the British couldn't focus on the revolt due to French interference elsewhere).
"Golf Clubs: A material designed for the space station aided in the development of Zeemet, a proprietary, high-damping shape memory alloy for the golf industry. The Nicklaus Golf Company created a new line of golf clubs using Zeemet inserts. Its superelastic and high damping attributes translate into more spin on the ball, greater control, and a solid feel."
I for one, support the ISS wholeheartedly, now that it has proven its usefulness!
The French provided a lot of support, but until the last few years, they weren't involved militarily in the US revolt.
Sounds like the US in WWII. Doesn't stop plenty of Americans trying to claim all the glory.
How big is the ISS (International Space Station) ?
What can be done there?
* Can you go shopping?
* Do you have internet access?
* Can you listen to music or watch TV and watch DVD's?
* Can you play sports such as soccer or tennis?
* Can you swim in a pool and have access to SPA?
* Are there any bars or dance floors?
* Can you eat at restaurant?
Or do you basically go up to space and do absolutely nothing and bore yourself to death for 5 years?
Couldn't they use this money to restart projects that got shelved when NASA's bugdet got cut? Take Hubble, for example. The thing is constantly churning out useful scientific data. Redirect these funds to someplace they can be used to further our understanding of the cosmos rather than a relatively useless project hosting space tourists and caretaker astronauts. It's like we have a financial black hole in orbit around Earth.
Bring on the asteroid
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
There are no such things as "Native Americans." They just came over a lot earlier than the Europeans (and there is even some debate about that).
And it's not like they were so saintly, or the Europeans so evil, either. The "Native Americans" spent a good deal of time fighting with each other long before Columbus sailed (and practiced some pretty damn gruesome forms of torture, too). And Europeans treatment of them varied greatly depending on the tribe, European country, time, locale, etc.--from friendly trading relations (France in much of what would become the Canadian provinces), to suspicious indifference (the New England colonies and much of the middle and Southern English colonies), to active oppression (Spanish colonies in central and south America).
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I never said NASA invented Teflon. I said have you ever used them? That technology was used for the first space suits that walked on the moon. NASA invested a lot of money into Teflon development for those space suits.
Obama = Socialism.
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Well, for what it's worth, the US started kicking supplies to England well before they entered the Second World War. The similar "Land-Lease" programs to the USSR and China appears to have been very helpful (though how helpful, I'm not sure). And the US did most of the work in beating Japan. Even though the USSR did the lion's share of the fighting with Germany, Britain and the US helped a lot by bombing German-controlled industrial centers and opening additional fronts of war.
In case either of you two who responded to me come back and read this, here's a basic response. To the first objection, I understood "was built on" to mean the thing that most helped america become what it is today, not "the purpose of colonization," which also was not "kinking out the brits" (obviously). To yours, eric, please, calm down. "Native Americans" is the term for them. If you want to be a pedantic asshole, there are no such things as "native" people to any area, as once upon a time, their ancestors lived elsewhere: in the oceans. I assume you realize that you sound like an asshole when you say this shit, but if not: You do. And there are lots of people who like to say that the genocide of the native americans by spain/england/america(yeah, it still was happening after 1789!) by pointing out that they weren't all saints. Oh well, if it's cool to kill anyone who's not a saint because you want your land, let me know where you live, and I can expand my assets!
Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away.
I have a stack of the annual results a half a foot high on my desk going back to the 70s.
Stack up all the economic pluses generated in companies by the advances that have come out from NASA, divide by what the missions cost, I believe you get a number greater that 1.
And yes, include the golf clubs.
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