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Windows Advantage Validation Process On Firefox

GraemeDonaldson writes "According to this IE Blog entry, Microsoft seems to be serious about supporting non-IE browsers. Mention is made of a Windows Media Player plugin for Firefox. The Windows Genuine Advantage validation process now works in Firefox too. From the article: 'Basically, customers said "We want to make sure our PCs are running genuine Windows and have access to all the content on the Microsoft Download Center; the experience when we're running a Mozilla browser is not great. Do something about it." Brad's team did. I think that's a good thing for customers.'"

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  1. Brrrrrrrrr, cold here by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And my good pal Satan didn't even get a call from Billy boy?

    Just kidding, I am glad that this is the first positive sign that MS is taking Mozilla seriously.
    Although they could have a trick up their sleeve.

    First impression of this is positive though :)

    Second impression is that they might break Firefox stuff on purpose to bring people back to IE, but that's the cynic in me.

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  2. Good news by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This can only be good news. Just last night, lack of ability to get downloads easily from Microsoft cost someone else (a small games publisher needing a recent DirectX version) money, as my other half and I gave up on the hassle of downloading from MS, and therefore didn't pay to download the puzzle game in question either. We both have 100% legal installations of Windows on our machines, and she was willing to pay the small asking price for a simple puzzle game she found enjoyable. Everyone lost.

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  3. Very usefull by jurt1235 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is very usefull. Suppose you have a system where IE is heavily infected with spyware, but you do have a firefox installed. At least you can leave IE unused to get some of the necessary service packs for your windows system by using this alternative browser. Everytime I use firefox on windows to help somebody out, I still have to start IE to use the Microsoft tools to update a part of the system. The rest of the Microsoft site always worked very good in mozilla anyway (at least, I never ran into any problems, then again I am running linux fulltime since 2000, and before that 50% of the time, so I am probably not the most representitive user of the Microsoft website)

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  4. Coming next... by Jjeff1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A firefox plugin that enables ActiveX. I'll be sure to download that!

    I use firefox as much to avoid the heavy-handed control Microsoft and other corporations are trying to exert over how my PC should operate. Just now I'm noticing that macromedia is poping up an icon in my system tray! Hello?, it's a browser plugin. It should only do stuff within the browser!

    1. Re:Coming next... by Malc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't the scripting support sub-standard with this plug-in?

  5. Development $ Fine $ by joey_knisch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am sorry but this is not all that surprising given the amount of anti-monopoly litigation in Europe and in the States. It cost less money to develop the code than get slapped with another huge fine.

  6. I'm not going to care... by Entropius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... until they start fixing some glaring bugs in Windows. I've got a legal copy of Windows XP, but the only reason I do is because it came with my laptop, and the only reason I got a laptop with Windows included is because it was crazy on sale. Were I buying a machine now, I'd get an Asus z70va and slap a pirate copy on it.

    This machine has 1.25 GiB of RAM. Most of the time when I try to hibernate it -- if I've ever run anything memory-intensive, whether or not it's still open -- I get an "Insufficient resources to complete the API" error, and it doesn't hibernate. (I have about 30 GB of disk free, so that is most certainly not the issue).

    There are all sorts of glaring flaws in Windows. Do I really care if I get access to the shit on Windows Update (Ooh, new version of Windows Media Player that probably still won't play oggs without me having to mess with codecs)? Not really. Security updates? Yay, I'll lose my install of Guild Wars, at worse, if someone gets past my firewall and "4dminist4t0r5" (doesn't quite sound like "r00ts", but whatever) it. All my *important* stuff is on the Linux half of this machine, and since Microsoft *still* doesn't have an ext3 filesystem driver, it's safe from the kiddies.

    When Windows Update works like emerge, I might consider using it.

  7. What?? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do I really want ActiveX components running free in Firefox?

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  8. Re:Windows Media Player for Firefox on Linux by Viol8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Given that mozilla is open source , you'd have thought they'd have supported
    an open source OS. I can't see why it should be an issue porting to linux , after
    all , the only difference is in the draw-to-screen API. ANyone know why its
    not supported?

  9. Google pays a dollar for Firefox switchers by pubjames · · Score: 5, Interesting


    I have read here that Google is paying a dollar for everyone you can get to switch from IE to Firefox. Is this true? Any Slashdotters acually made any money from this?

    I'll be interested to see what Microsoft is going to do in Vista to try to spoil things for Firefox. My guess is even further integration of IE into Windows, and lots of stuff that doesn't even feel like you're using IE will actually be through their browser. Also, they're going to try to get more lock-in on the corporate intranet rather than the public web.

    1. Re:Google pays a dollar for Firefox switchers by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll be interested to see what Microsoft is going to do in Vista to try to spoil things for Firefox. My guess is even further integration of IE into Windows, and lots of stuff that doesn't even feel like you're using IE will actually be through their browser. Also, they're going to try to get more lock-in on the corporate intranet rather than the public web.

      No signs so far of further IE integration in Vista so far, at least in the most recent public October build. The November one is supposed to be out tomorrow btw. However, beta 2 (due ~January 06) will be much more interesting as it's supposed to take a leap in features. But I still don't believe there's much to fear in this specific area as they have both the DOJ and EU's knife on their throat here since quite a while ago. And they have acted before, not only by forcing them to provide an accessible UI for default browser switching, but also on the Media Player bundle.

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    2. Re:Google pays a dollar for Firefox switchers by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yep. It is in there with adsense. I seem to average 1 convert a day. But that makes up for some days where adsense can have like 30 click throughs and my cut of it is only like $0.20..

      You're not going to get rich quick :)

    3. Re:Google pays a dollar for Firefox switchers by johnkoer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm up a few bucks on it from my website.

      If you are already running FireFox it will prompt you to install the Google toolbar into your current install. If you are running anything else, it will prompt you to download a version of FireFox 1.0.7 with the Google toolbar enabled. You make the money after the person has run Firefox with the google toolbar installed.

  10. Mozilla Site Rendering by Frankie70 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's about this site ==> https://pfs.mozilla.org/plugins/

    I loaded it on both IE6 & Firefox(1.0.2)

    Strangely, it renders very differently on the 2 browsers.
    It renders much better on IE.

    What's the story?

  11. LMFAO. I haven't even installed it... by DominicanZero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and already found a stupid bug. =p

    Try installing Firefox/Mozilla/Whatever Mozilla-compatible browser you use in a non-standard installation folder (i.e. NOT [root]:\[Program files folder]\Mozilla [Firefox]) and try installing the plugin; it won't even ask you to look for the damn correct directory and blow up in mid-installation. XD


    This is why I love Microsoft: Unsurpassable jokes every now and then. =p

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  12. Re:Yeah but... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If one was so inclined, could a ficticious person download and grab the code from a validated machine and paste it in from an unvalidated machine?

    Just out of curiosity you understand..

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  13. Bingo! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Whats interesting is that the plugin for firefox is an ActiveX application. WMP installs some kind of ActiveX functionality into firefox (on the sly).

    Just a moment ago I posted a reply elsewhere in this item. I suggested that installing Microsoft's media player plugin might open a backdoor {BARNdoor} in Mozilla/Firefox (like the one that APPLYING for Sony's rootkit uninstaller opens in IE). This would eliminate the big driver of migration from IE to Mozilla/Firefox: improved security.

    I do believe you've found it.

    Counting the hours to the first exploit...

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  14. It is always possible.... by mAineAc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That microsoft is interested in how many people are actually using a different browser. How much more of a realistic view are they going to see if they don't force everyone to use IE. Or, perhaps this is research to use for more of their FUD.

  15. IEBlog... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I agree I did a bit of karma-whoring to post one or two comments in here according to the group-mentality. Yes, I'm sorry, I got carried on :(

    *ahem* Anyway, remember it's the IE7 team doing the Firefox WMP plugins and such. Yes, the same ones that fixed those nasty guillotine bugs that made web programmers' lifes become a nightmare.

    So, yes, I support their cross-browser compatibility effort. Now the only thing that worries me is that windows media DRM that can run remote code on your machine.

  16. Don't be too quick to give kudos to MS by wsgeek · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In the browser wars, the paradigm shift was from the desktop to the web-browser, which was just a container for web-based content. The new container is the media player, folks! MS doesn't really care if you're using FireFox as long as it's Windows Media Player delivering rich content -- including advertising. The battle now is between Flash, Quicktime, Media Player, etc... This is not a magnanimous move by Microsoft, this is a no-nonsense strategy to make sure that Media Player is the container no matter what browser you're using.

  17. Re:Technical details by staticsage · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's actually a cool extension similiar to IE View called IE Tab that essentially does just that. Rather than opening up a new window for Internet Explorer, this plugin integrates IE into a tab within Firefox... it's pretty neat.