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Next Generation of MP3 Glasses

Doggie Fizzle writes "A review of the Nu Tech Dark Shadow 256MB MP3 Sunglasses shows one of the latest attempts to multitask common items, whether we want it or not. The Oakley Thumps may have come first, but at 3x the cost of Nu Tech Dark Shadows, even frugal geeks can look smooth... From the review: "I am a sucker for any tool or gadget that tries to combine more than one use or function into a single item, but I also have learned from experience that many times such items fail to perform well at any of the tasks they were designed to do.""

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  1. obviously by yagu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously not a Unix person.

    From the slashdot article:

    From the review: "I am a sucker for any tool or gadget that tries to combine more than one use or function into a single item,..."

    or he'd already have known:

    that many times such items fail to perform well at any of the tasks they were designed to do...
    1. Re:obviously by Namronorman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not only that but more to break, I'd imagine something like that's durability isn't that great. I think they look large and grotesque, this is probably something someone with too much money would buy just for a toy, and then never use them. That or this guy who said he uses them while he skis, that wouldn't be so bad I guess

      "Dude, you just sat on my glasses!"

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    2. Re:obviously by HoldenCaulfield · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bleh, such a bad solution for skiing . . .

      Sunglasses are a poor substitute for a good pair of goggles.

      If you really want music while you're on the mountain, lots of helmets now have built in headphones (some of them have Bluetooth as well)

      Of course, you need to tap something into the headphones, but there are several ski shells that are designed with iPod's in mind . . . some even have controls built into the sleeves. Hell, there are even ridiculously expensive coats with built in iPods.

      If you don't have the cash to drop on a nice shell, there's also some crazy gloves that are designed so that the wheel will still work through the glove. (Silly marketing tech sheet is here.)

      Note: I'm not affiliated with any of the stores I linked to, they were just the first results of a cursory google search . . .

  2. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The sad part is, you'll have listened to all the songs before the sun goes down.

  3. Very annoying... by tehshen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you already wear glasses :/

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    1. Re:Very annoying... by johnty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i see two main problems with this:

      1. its on a pair of sunglasses - ok its great for outdoors when its sunny, but if you either wear glasses, or spend a good deal of time indoors, or out at night, you can't really use them
      2. you can't change the earbuds. what happens if you want to replace them with better sounding ones? i guess you could cut the cord and attach new ones onto it, but i'm sure not everyone's willing to perform the surgery.

      now if the mp3 player component was detacheable, or if the frame could be used with prescription lenses that change colour in the sunlight, then we're talking...
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  4. Old technology, how about something newer? by dada21 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is an interesting item but it is so 1990. The review's comment of "I am a sucker for any tool or gadget that tries to combine more than one use or function into a single item" is exactly why we don't need so many all-in-one items, but instead, mininetworked items.

    Why is Bluetooth such a relative failure? My PDA has bluetooth and I use it ALL the time. The problem is that I don't see very many viable, workable, user friendly bluetooth devices.

    If I want an MP3 player, what I'd really want is a portable deposit/store/memory bank (SD card is fine), a very tiny MP3 player and a bluetooth set of headphones. I can't find anything of the sort that WORKS.

    My bluetooth headset for my phone has TERRIBLE sound quality. The bandwidth for bluetooth should allow for a decent sound in stereo, but the mono headset is just crap. Can anyone recommend a good stereo set of bluetooth headphones that work?

    I believe the future of portable music will probably not be the MP3 player, especially as network availability becomes more pronounced. I use Shoutcast on my PDA phone to stream my entire MP3 collection from home as I want to. GPRS at 33.6K is fairly crap quality, but when I am in range of a public WiFi router (my phone has WiFi as well) I can get pretty awesome quality streaming. Nowadays I am near a public WiFi router probably 15% of the time, compared to 5% last year.

    Will we even NEED storage or a large bulky scratchable iPod when we can stream terabytes of music in a few years?

    1. Re:Old technology, how about something newer? by Gnight · · Score: 2, Funny

      I like the way you think. But I have to ask, why not just build the entire music player into the headsets? Why two pieces with the complicated bluetooth system connecting them?

      How long until Apple/Napster/Yahoo comes out with a music player that does this? Think about it, the player automatically connects to iTunes (or whatever) over WiFi, logs into your account, and starts streaming music. That would be sweet.

    2. Re:Old technology, how about something newer? by BattleRat · · Score: 3, Funny

      The sound quality of cell phones is rather limited by the quality of the whole telephone system. Since that is the case, the cell phone bluetooth headsets are engineered to meet that shoddy quality level. If you want to have a good listening experience, you need to buy a bluetooth headset that supports A2DP profile and a transmitter that does as well (computers and phones like a Nokia N91 or 8801). Some headsets, like Logitech's Bluetooth Wireless Headphones, include a bluetooth adapter that plugs into any standard headset jack (3.5mm I think). This one natively uses the higher bandwidth, higher quality sound profile. I think Laptop Magazine did a review a while back. I'll post a link if I find one.

    3. Re:Old technology, how about something newer? by Gnight · · Score: 2, Funny

      So make it smaller. :-)

    4. Re:Old technology, how about something newer? by j-cloth · · Score: 2, Funny

      What he said plus I can't listen to it on the subway. Until there is a viable wireless solution that has 100% penetration (subways, tunnels, basements, interior rooms, elevators, etc) people (like me) will prefer items that are syncable rather than 100% online.

    5. Re:Old technology, how about something newer? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ya, I agree about the bluetooth thing.

      My mouse broke the other day and I drove out to several computer stores looking for an instant replacement. Since I just bought a new bluetooth laptop I figured I'd snag a bluetooth mouse.

      I found a TON of wireless RF mice, but only TWO bluetooth mice... and they both sucked.

      WTF? I don't want a stupid RF receiver hanging off the side of my laptop. Moreover, I don't need anymore RF devices in my life.

      I saw a slew of mice touting "2.4ghz" RF .... considering that I'm already having interference problems with my 2.4ghz WiFi router 2.4ghz phone, 2.4 ghz game controllers, etc... why would I want a 2.4ghz mouse?

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  5. Sorry... by rovingeyes · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The Oakley Thumps may have come first, but at 3x the cost of Nu Tech Dark Shadows, even frugal geeks can look smooth..

    Sorry I don't share your enthusiasm, but I don't think you will look smoother, only geekier. I am geeky enough and I don't want to wear it on my face. Besides, the audio actually sucks....what, I had to try it on...common gimme a break!

    1. Re:Sorry... by Rethcir · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe this is why Manny is such a bad fielder..

  6. Solar battery? by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems like this would be the PERFECT product to have a rechargeable solar battery!

  7. In case you didn't realize by ankarbass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    these bulbous pieces of shit look dumb on everyone, not just you. So do the oakleys. You are just not going to make a cubic inch of electronics look smooth on a pair of glasses. A product like this will be ready for prime time when you can fit the entire player in the eraser head of a mechanical pencil.

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  8. girls by uberjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    All I want are those x-ray specs I ordered from boy's life 15 years ago.

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  9. Just great. by hal2814 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now when I lose my sunglasses (which happens a LOT), I've also lost my 256MB mp3 player? No thanks.

  10. And what's more... by GillBates0 · · Score: 2, Funny
    even frugal geeks can look smooth...

    ...it's rumored that this cool gadget chases away all those pestering chicks too. It's a g33k's dream come true. And just in time for the gifting season!

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  11. Not for geeks by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...one of the latest attempts to multitask common items, whether we want it or not.

    ... even frugal geeks can look smooth...

    These are not for geeks, as can be shown by your idiodic comment (who "looks smooth" with a huge box attached to the side of your head?). They are for bikers, runners, and people involved in sports. They are not for a WOW playing geek in his mom's basement.

    Ever try to bike through traffic while screwing around with a headphone cable? Probably not. If you did then you would see that there is a huge market for these kinds of devices.

    1. Re:Not for geeks by jratcliffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Ever try to bike through traffic while screwing around with a headphone cable? Probably not."

      No, because I'm not enough of an idiot to wear headphones while riding - hearing's important my friend.

    2. Re:Not for geeks by lixee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anybody else noticed the weight is not mentioned? Neither in TFA nor on the retailers sites.

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    3. Re:Not for geeks by grappler · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's another nice thing about the thumps - the ear "buds" can hover an inch away from your ear, so that you can hear your surroundings just fine.

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  12. I can't even tell by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny
    I can't even tell when people on mini headsets aren't actually talking to me. Now I can look forward to talking to people and not being heard, even though the seem to be nodding their heads.

    i'm not even a parent, but it'll be like the world is full of teenagers

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  13. Plastic Pocket Protector by queenb**ch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sheesh...does this thing come with a plastic pocket protector, too? Like some of the other posters, it's obvious enough to even the most casual observer that I'm a geek. Do I really need to paste a sign on my forehead? My Treo plays MP3's rather well and can play them through the headset I'm already wearing. Why add ANOTHER set of headphones?

    2 cents,

    Queen B.

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  14. Sunglasses? by NardofDoom · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I ever see anyone wearing MP3 player sunglasses I'm going to smack them. And this is coming from someone with a Bluetooth headset.

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  15. Not even worth checking out. by mmell · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I was in school at Berzerkely, I supported myself as a personal care attendant assisting the physically handicapped. A (frighteningly intelligent and insightful) friend of mine once commented that I could design the ultimate cybernetic prosthesis, one which could replace any damaged body part and work perfectly, but that the vast majority of those with physical handicaps would shun my invention if it didn't look good - i.e., most physically handicapped people would choose a good-looking but non-functional prosthetic over a functioning but ugly one. I confirmed this by talking candidly with many of my clients.

    Somehow, I just don't see these things catching on. They're ugly.

  16. where? by BushCheney08 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, where can I get a pair of these Dork Shadow sunglasses?

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  17. How about a cell phone controlled vibe? by xoip · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Toyjust in time for Christmas

  18. Sweet merciful jesus those are ugly by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do they expect me to *pay* for the luxury of wearing -- on my face no less -- something that looks like a Geigeresque metal-sheened plastic turd? I would be ashamed to leave the house wearing one of these. I might as well have a sign on my chest that says "Too much money, and no standards" And, to anybody who says these are for cyclists and such. Well. I'm a cyclist, I ride 50+ miles on weekends on a road bike, and I bike to work daily in downtown washington dc in rush-hour traffic. My iPod works *just* fine, and as a bonus, I still get to wear my real glasses, so I can see the taxis that want to annihilate me.

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  19. $20 sunglasses + $20 player != $400 status item by wsanders · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think mostly what us nerds object to is the conversion of two commodity "nerd tools" into an overpriced status item.

    We want an Open Source sunglass+MP3 player!

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  20. $500?? by stavromueller · · Score: 5, Funny

    500 bucks?? That's Frugal???? No thank you...I'll buy an iPod and duct-tape it to the back of my head.

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  21. Re:Since we're integrating gadgets... by saforrest · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since we're integrating gadgets, we could place small solar panels on a hat and attach the hat to the glasses. The panels would charge the battery while providing additional sun protection, and it wouldn't look much dorkier than the Oakleys. (How could it?)

    Perhaps you could add an layer of tinfoil for the paranoid, and to maximize energy use, mount a small propeller on the hat that would generate wind power when the person is in motion!

  22. wearable computing battles aesthetic inertia by mungojelly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What we've got here is a situation where computers have gotten easily small enough to be wearable on a purely practical level, but are still fighting against entrenched aesthetic norms. People hold up cell phones for seemingly hours at a time while walking around, even though they could easily have some sort of hands-free system. People put mp3 players in their pockets and run wires to their head, even though mp3 players could easily be fit somewhere near the ears. One can easily imagine a world in which it would have been cool all along to wear some kind of crazy cyberhelmet, and in that world we would have progressed much further into augmented reality. No use crying over spilled milk, so let's see what's possible with the culture we've got.

    One possibility is that the barrier of aesthetic conservativism will be bypassed only once the size gets down to the point where it really is vanishingly small-- where a pair of sunglasses (or a necklace, or a bracelet, or a ring) with a computer in it is indistinguishable from one without. The computers will simply disappear, and the state of the art for most people in wearable computing will be whatever level is the latest to be effectively vanished.

    The other possibility (the one which I, and I suspect most of us here, would prefer) is that there will be some new product or class of products that will change the collective aesthetic of our society and allow wearable computers to fully flourish. One entirely reasonable route for such a transformative device would be a pair of computerized sunglasses. Sunglasses are the largest head-mounted device which is a currently acceptable fashion. They are also conveniently close to the ears and even go in front of the eyes; they're perfectly situated to talk intimately with a user.

    In order to effect such a transformation, a product would have to be a brilliant innovation either technically or aesthetically-- and probably both. The product under discussion here comes nowhere close to achieving that prerequisite. My guess is that the first mass market computerized sunglasses will be ones which can project some sort of display onto the glass.

    <3

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  23. Re:$500?? Try $100 by Mal-2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, the reviewed item is only $100 or slightly under. It is the Oakley Thump that pops up in the ads at the bottom that is $500. This makes sense given the cost of Oakley sunglasses alone (hence the booming market in "Foakleys", cheap knock-offs), but for $500 you think you'd get at least 1 GB of space.

    $100 for decent sunglasses and an MP3 player really isn't bad. Too bad they're ugly. Shouldn't stop poker players from adopting them, however...

    Personally I really only wear sunglasses while driving or as a passenger in someone else's car, and just about every car's stereo system sounds better than earbuds. Plus, it's not legal to drive with headphones on (not that anyone would notice) and as a passenger it would make it difficult to communicate with the driver. I suppose they would be nice on a trip with a lot of people, where you may not be able to stand each other's taste in music, and as pointed out above, they would be nice at the poker table (at least until you want to take them off but still listen to the music).

    Mal-2

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  24. This is just silly by Tycho_Atreides · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is obviously not a useful item. This is the kind of crap that ends up in those Sharper Image catalogs that they wont stop sending me. Its about as useful as the Simpsons mockery of Sharper Image hardware, the frying pan with a radio in it. Ive been noticing recently that items such as this and the Moto ROKR are consistently inferior to the alternate solution of just taking something and taping an iPod Nano to it. We have some very good music players and some very good other devices, why is it whenever they try to integrate those two together it always ends up in a product vastly inferior to the two original products?

  25. Unix highly misunderstood as a child by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, I think people misunderstand the unix philosophy sometimes. It's not that apps do one thing. It's that they're modular, and *interoperate*.

    A compiler doesn't do one thing: it does lots of stuff: parsing, translating, optimising, retargetting. But it does that by using other subtools, and by communicating with other parts of the system and libraries etc.

    Likewise, there's no reason an app or tool can't play music and videos and download podcasts all in one slick interface. It's just that it shouldn't try to do all that with one huge mess of code, without relying on pre-existing work such as OGG codecs or ID3 tags, or RSS, or GTK/Qt/whatever.

    KDE, for instance, is made up of many, many programs, all doing their own specialist things. They share libraries, and classes, and call child programs and expose application functions for scripting via DCOP and DBUS. They use existing technologies and build on them. It's not a single tool by any means; it's a framework of parts. And I think it's the very best example of Unix I've seen in quite a while.