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Peter Quinn Resigns

An anonymous reader writes "Andy Updegrove is reporting on his blog that Peter Quinn, CIO of Massachusetts and focus of the recent media feeding frenzy, has decided to step down. Quinn stressed that his departure does not signal any major changes in policy nor was he forced to resign. He did say that a large part of the decision was made by the Boston Globe's unfounded (and quickly disproven) charges."

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  1. No good deed goes unpunished? by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

    I guess one needs a thicker skin...

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  2. The cost of doing the right thing by gadzook33 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The government seems really committed to its legacy information systems. Someone in a position of power finally decides to do something and is penalized for it. This is a perfect example of what's wrong with the government at all levels.

    1. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by sbyrnes00 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find it interesting that this happened in Massachusetts of all places. Granted, in most other states OSS would never have gotten as far, but MA is usually more progressive than to tear down a cost-cutting advocate. To have corporate interests launch such a public attack on a public figure, especially in a place like MA, shows just how little fear and much power they have.

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    2. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Burz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or, in this case, it shows us what's wrong with commercial newsrooms.

    3. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by gadzook33 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, that's nothing new. However, having worked in government for many years I can tell you it is a rare thing indeed for someone at this level to do anything other than what is needed to get by. What you would consider the easiest and most logical decision imaginable is not made. And it is not made because it is the harder thing to do as the right decision usually is.

    4. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      " This is a perfect example of what's wrong with the government at all levels."

      News networks producing stories that seem to have been inaccurate (from the article) is a problem with government?

    5. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      See, you're the reason that modern "media" smear campaigns work so well. You read the sensationalist allegations (lacking the ability to differentiate between "Unproven allegation" and "Guilty as charged") but of course, you never read the corrections or retractions in later editions. These days you don't even need to prove anything; just make unfounded allegations and let the media take care of the charcter assasisnation for you.

      Shit, you didn't even read the article summary. Even that mentions the allegations were unfounded. Do you know what that means?

    6. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by SnapShot · · Score: 1

      I hope this doesn't become another case of the government "revolving door". If he gets a high-paid lobbiest's job at the Open Source Technology Group I will be very dissapointed.

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    7. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by gadzook33 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      News networks producing stories that seem to have been inaccurate (from the article) is a problem with government?

      Sure. There's always going to be someone there to second guess, be it the media or someone else. It's the reponse to those opinions (usually made without even bothering to understand the issue) that causes the problem. Do you honestly think there wasn't some pressure put on this guy to leave? Pressure comes in many forms. They can say nothing to you at all while simultaneously conveying the fact that you have no future.
    8. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by plopez · · Score: 3, Informative

      What's wrong with legacy systems, if they do at least 80% of the required job? Changing large systems is always a risky proposition, espcially when you get 'flavor of the month' hucksters in the door trying to sell you new systems who have no clue as to the convoluted business process the legacy system has evolved to model.

      Stick with legacy whenever possible. It is often cheaper and more effective.

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    9. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      With MS, you can't stick with legacy systems. You will be forced to perform an expensive upgrade sooner or later.

    10. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a perfect example of what's wrong with the government at all levels.

      No, it's a perfect reflection of all of us. It's a perfect example of our own failure to maintain a compentent gov't. It's a perfect example of the power of distraction. If you have a complaint about your gov't, then take it up with those who give them their power and grant them their authority. Because without us, they have nothing. They are nothing.

    11. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not from Mass., so maybe I'm not close enough to it, but how is Mass. more "progressive"? What does this mean?

      They seem to send the same tired old Senator every year for more than 20 years, trying the same old things that haven't worked. I agree they're in a different rut than other states, but progressive to me implies trying new things and I think MA has been consistant in their approach for quite a long time.

    12. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stick with legacy whenever possible. It is often cheaper and more effective.

      That's rediculous. It may be true in some cases but is far too broad to be modded informative.

    13. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's it! He was lured away by the big profits in Free Software! It had nothing to do with his reputation being ruined by an irresponsible Boston Globe article and having his authority challenged by a corrupt state government.

      You're brillant.

    14. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow... if you couldn't get the implied sarcasm of "... a high-paid lobbiest's job at the Open Source Technology Group" (Slashdot's parent company, BTW) then I doubt there is any hope for you. Do you write a lot of nasty letters to Saturday Night Live?

    15. Re:The cost of doing the right thing by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Not really. Particularly in government, truly vast expenditures are made on failed replacement programs for so-called legacy systems. In recent memory, the FAA, the FBI, and the IRS have all spent enormous sums (in the hundreds of millions, for Chrissakes) on efforts to replace existing systems that were doing the job. The U.S. Navy followed suit on its own internal upgrade program, which cost big and delivered little. Those efforts all failed miserably because those in charge simply didn't know what they were doing. You have to understand the sheer scope of such systems: as the GP pointed out, something that took decades to build cannot and should not be replaced without careful research and proper management. Both of those are in short supply in most Federal agencies. Even in smaller organizations, a poorly planned upgrade can be an unmitigated disaster. I've seen it happen ... unless you plan and execute your upgrade well, odds are you'll shoot yourself in the foot. And if you aren't willing to do it right, keep using your old stuff until you are.

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  3. The heat of public life by ReformedExCon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think there's really anything to this story in regards to anything technical. Policy, as he says, will remain relatively unchanged. The main thing is his reaction to being in the public's eye, and his actions under the pressure of unfounded allegations.

    The same thing happens to all politicians and anyone in the public's eye. George W Bush sloughs off criticism about his military past. Bill Clinton was able to sidestep allegations of sexual harassment in the Paula Jones case and tackled the issue head on in the Lewinsky witchhunt. Vince Foster blew his brains own brains out.

    Public scrutiny really shows the true character and intestinal fortitude of the scrutinized.

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    1. Re:The heat of public life by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it would be more accurate to compare what's happening to him as a low key Swift-boating (like what they did to Kerry)

      It's important to remember that it doesn't matter how true the story is, what matters is the impression that sticks with readers.

      If you tell people a lie, the ones who want to believe it will, probably because it meshes with their preconcieved ideas about the subject. If you tell them later that it was a lie, it doesn't really matter, because their perception of the issue has already been colored.

      That's why it is a big deal when a major print outfit cocks up a story. Most readers aren't going to see the correction/retraction/apology unless there is a big fuss over it.

      I also don't think it's fair to compare a CEO to Presidents past or present. Most CEOs don't have a PR dept solely dedicated to making them look good, or dedicated to documenting the Christmas antics of their pets for that matter.

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    2. Re:The heat of public life by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I also don't think it's fair to compare a CEO to Presidents past or present. Most CEOs don't have a PR dept solely dedicated to making them look good, or dedicated to documenting the Christmas antics of their pets for that matter."

      Well, CEOs don't have to stick their neck out like a president has to. CEOs can basically work in total privacy as far as the company is concerned. Also, CEOs, or rather the companies they work for, *do* have a PR department that makes the company look good.

      Historically, the press (legitimate and otherwise) has been tough on the president and other politicians (they can always count on support from the opposing party), but if they are tough on CEOs, they are communists ( unless the CEO really effed up, like with Enron and so forth).

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    3. Re:The heat of public life by aheath · · Score: 2, Informative
      I read both stories and I am hard pressed to find anything that I would consider a lie on the part of the Boston Globe.

      The headline of the first story is Romney administration reviewing trips made by technology chief.

      The headline of the second story is Review backs trips by technology chief with a sub-headline of "No conflict found for aide."

      I suspect that the first story would have been clearer if Eric Kriss, Peter J. Quinn's former supervisor, had returned the Globe's phone calls. The second article makes it clear that Peter J. Quinn was acting on bad advice from Eric Kriss.

      This seems like a typical case of Massachusetts politics. I'm a bit surprised at the thought that the Globe articles had anything to do with Peter J. Quinn's decision to resign.

      Finally, there are no stories about Peter J. Quinn's resignation posted at either the New York Times web site or the Boston Globe web site. It will be interesting to see the Globe coverage when it appears.

    4. Re:The heat of public life by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The appearance of scandal can be just as damaging as the real thing.

      Basically, the reporter didn't get in contact with the guy's boss before writing his article and (falsely) implying that there was something about the trips worth investigating.

      Might seem like a tempest-in-a-teapot to us, but to the people in that teapot, it was obviously a big enough issue that the guy quit.

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    5. Re:The heat of public life by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      what's happening to him as a low key Swift-boating (like what they did to Kerry)

      Do you know of a good site debunking the swift boat stuff?

      A friend of mine works for the production company that was hired to do the swift-boat commercials and has consquently been 100% brain-washed into believing them (they were quite liberal with the kool-aid it seems). Now that the election is long over, nobody seems interested in following up on all the hue and cry - but if someone has done a good job (not just another partisan hack job, but from the left instead of the right)I would really appreciate a pointer to it.

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    6. Re:The heat of public life by nathanh · · Score: 2, Informative
      Do you know of a good site debunking the swift boat stuff?

      JFGI.

      • http://www.factcheck.org/article231.html
      • http://mediamatters.org/items/200408050007
      • http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Swift _Boat_Veterans_for_Truth
      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs _for_Truth

      Though IMO the biggest torpedo that sank the Swift Vets claims came from the New York Times.

      The New York Times reported on August 5, the Kerry campaign noted that "none of the men had actually served on the Swift boats that Mr. Kerry commanded."

      Though none of that matters. Kerry was made out to be a coward and a liar - his three Purple Hearts amounted to nothing after the character assassination - and he lost votes as a result. The Republican funding of the group was shameful yet I bet you won't see anything happen about that either.

    7. Re:The heat of public life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Do you know of a good site debunking the swift boat stuff?

          How about this first person account in Wall Street Journal from the man whose life John Kerry saved?
      JIM RASSMANN: Shame on the Swift Boat Veterans for Bush: John Kerry saved my life. Now his heroism is being questioned. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.ht ml?id=110005460

    8. Re:The heat of public life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      Though IMO the biggest torpedo that sank the Swift Vets claims came from the New York Times.
      The New York Times reported on August 5, the Kerry campaign noted that "none of the men had actually served on the Swift boats that Mr. Kerry commanded."


      From the same article:
      Adm. Roy F. Hoffman, who is retired and who says in the advertisement, "John Kerry has not been honest," acknowledged that the men in the advertisement did not serve on Mr. Kerry's boat, but he said their time in parallel boats on coordinated missions, or as Mr. Kerry's superiors, made them valid commentators on his record. The group provided station managers with a 13-page memorandum, backed up by more than 60 pages of sworn statements, book excerpts and military records.

      "We were on the same operations, we were operating within 25-50 yards of him all the time, and for them to suggest we don't know John Kerry is pure old bull," Mr. Hoffman said. "He has made this the centerpiece of this campaign, and we just don't think he's qualified to be the commander in chief of the armed forces. We have every right to be heard."
    9. Re:The heat of public life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vince Foster blew his brains own brains out.

      blew his brains out own brains out
      own brains out
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      blew his brains out own brains out
      blew his own brains out

    10. Re:The heat of public life by nathanh · · Score: 4, Insightful
      From the same article: Adm. Roy F. Hoffman, who is retired and who says in the advertisement, "John Kerry has not been honest,"

      Feel free to quote Hoffman all you like because the man has no credibility.

      HOFFMANN: Well, I can tell you that I did not know Kerry personally. I didn't ride the boat with him.

      But this highlights yet another tactic of the smear campaigns that are making a mockery of democracy in America. Start with an outlandish and dishonorable claim, such as claiming that Kerry's three Purple Hearts and Bronze medal were undeserved. Wait until the election time rather than disputing their worth in the decades since they were awarded. Then bury the counterclaims in trivia and minutiae that doesn't even have to be true; the barrage of lies and half-truths simply has to be so overwhelming that it overwhelms the common man so they tune out before the protests can be heard. The barrage of nonsense from Hoffman is simply part of this carpet-bombing media tactic.

      I'm not American and I couldn't give two hoots about Kerry but I'm disgusted with the way you partisan idiots are destroying your democracy. You are turning democracy into a childish football match, with teams and cheerleaders and points to be scored. Waiting several decades before calling somebody's war record into dispute is pathetic. It is a grave dishonour to somebody who risked their life to serve your country. Everybody who defends these SBV numbskulls should be ashamed and appalled at what you've turned your political system into. Between the partisan hackery and the voting scandals your democratic process is quickly becoming the laughing stock of the world.

      Pay attention to people like Jon Stewart and Stop Hurting America. Your country deserves far better than you partisan idiots are providing.

    11. Re:The heat of public life by tivoKlr · · Score: 1

      Bravo. Wish more Americans could see how ridiculous our election smear process is...

      Pisses me off.

      I voted for dubya the 1st go around, so I'm not just speaking from my liberal pulpit either.

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    12. Re:The heat of public life by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm a bit surprised at the thought that the Globe articles had anything to do with Peter J. Quinn's decision to resign.

      I've known more than one politician to resign when they realized what really could happen. He had a front-page article explaining that he is a cheat and an embezzler. He probably also realizes that the attention that he gained with his large change to the policy would make him a target for more such stories. Why would he put up with that? I like my job, but if I had the choice to do my job well or be the target for hatchet jobs, I'd quit. I'm not going to do my job poorly just to stay under the radar, nor do I have to put up with unfounded personal attacks.

      This is the reason why we only get Kerry and Bush to choose from. Those with integrity run from politics.

    13. Re:The heat of public life by VGPowerlord · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Unfortunately, those of us who do realize it often can't actually do anything about it.

      That is, unless everyone else does. I admit, voting in a member of the Liberitarian or Green parties as President would probably throw the Democrat and Republican parties for a loop...

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    14. Re:The heat of public life by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Informative

      JFGI

      I did. All of the rebuttals I found, and I believe all that you cited, are prior to a lot of follow-up and counter-responses from the swift boaters during the august-october timeframe. I was unable to readily find any follow-up rebuttals to the stuff they published during that timeframe.

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    15. Re:The heat of public life by Intron · · Score: 1

      "I suspect that the first story would have been clearer if Eric Kriss, Peter J. Quinn's former supervisor, had returned the Globe's phone calls." Did you note the date on the story? The Saturday after Thanksgiving? "Kriss, who left state government in September, did not return phone messages left at his home yesterday and Wednesday." This was an intentional smear by the Globe. They timed it so that no-one was around to respond, why else would they rush it out in a week?

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  4. Nasty Photos by putko · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm suspecting that MicroSoft got some photos of this guy cavorting in a bathtub filled with mayonaise and a few attractive penguin prostitutes.

    A few phone calls the guy resigned. Who wouldn't?

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    1. Re:Nasty Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They have attractive penguin prostitutes now? Awesome! Come on, hook me up, dude.

    2. Re:Nasty Photos by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      They're called nuns. And they're not cheap.

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  5. What's up with the Boston Globe? by User+956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Boston Globe's having a bad run lately. First that false story about Homeland Security checking up on library borrowing habits, and now this BS. If anyone should be gone, it's their editor.

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    1. Re:What's up with the Boston Globe? by andreMA · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Quinn story actually came first, but yeah. The Boston Globe and the New York Times share the same owner, incidentally...

    2. Re:What's up with the Boston Globe? by BCW2 · · Score: 1, Troll

      How many times this year has the NYT had to print retractions? Or refused to, after stories were proved to be false? Close to ten and the year isn't over. Not to mention reporters fired for phoney stories. That whole chain of papers is only good for fish wrap or fireplace starter now, what a fall from where they used to be. It's amazing what can happen when opinion takes precedence over facts. One of these days they might get smart enough to take the golf shoes off before stepping on their dicks.

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    3. Re:What's up with the Boston Globe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      For the record the Boston Globe and NYT also share another fascinating habit: faking subscriber numbers. If you cancel your subscription to either paper you're permanently recorded as "on vacation" and therefore included in their readership numbers (to help gain ad revenue). I know this because I deliver 'em (hence AC, just in case...) Sounds ethical eh?

    4. Re:What's up with the Boston Globe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By owner you mean State Department?

    5. Re:What's up with the Boston Globe? by hey! · · Score: 1

      I stopped reading the Globe after the following precious incident.

      The Republicans had tapped a well groomed and attractive young man as their Lt Governor candidate. The Globe the next day mentioned in passing that he would be the first gay Lt. Governor if elected. He was at that time not out of the closet.

      I am a Democrat. I think this particular person, if he had by some chance become governor, would not have been a good one. He was too inexperienced. He had been mayor of my town and while earnest and well intentioned, had had difficulties because he was too inexperienced to be mayor of a small city. I think it's good he bowed out, but not that way.

      The Globe is a Democrat paper. But as far as I can see, liberalism is a brand to them, not a political philosophy. The reason I am a Democrat is that I think that individuals need to be protected from the unwarranted intrusions of powerful institutions into their lives -- and I include private businesses in that. It's hypocrisy to claim that the Republicans overstepped their place by interrogating Clinton's sexual antics, then use the exact same tactics to destroy the career of a politician just because he's on the other side. In some cases, I can see outing a gay politician if he make sexual orientation or ethics a political issue, but that wasn't the case here. At the time his big political claim to fame was championing increased civility.

      On top of the blatant hypocrisy and dishonesty of the paper, the writing has become dreadful and the columns are increasingly banal regurgitations of third hand opinions.

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  6. Sounds like... by nettdata · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds like someone is getting ready for a nice, big lawsuit.

    "They posted all this crap about me, it wasn't true, I had to quit, I couldn't find a job, and by the time I could, I was out of touch and not hireable... gimme $8 million".

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    1. Re:Sounds like... by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful
      After reading http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200512271 13652154

      I [PJ] just interviewed Quinn's prior boss, Eric Kriss, and here's what he tells me, although note that it's not an official statement, since Kriss is no longer with the administration.

      Kriss:

      I've heard that Peter Quinn resigned as the CIO of Massachusetts effective Jan 9, 2006. I met with Peter briefly on December 21, prior to his decision, and he indicated to me he was extremely uncomfortable with the personal attention surrounding the open format controversy. Peter is an IT professional who is not accustomed to the rough-and-tumble world of politics. He found the last few months to be very distasteful, especially the Boston Globe article that seemed to imply some sort of improper influence related to his conference travel. He was completely cleared after an internal administrative review.
      As far as I know, Peter was not forced out over policy differences with senior administration officials.
      He didn't have to quit.

      It's unfortunate he got mistreated this way. The only people he could possibly sue are at the newspaper and they're safe unless he can prove that article was written with malicious intent.
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    2. Re:Sounds like... by nettdata · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's exactly what I was inferring.

      It's depressing and somewhat pathetic that the political environment breeds the kind of shoddy, "investigative" journalism that seems to be running rampant, all in the hopes of gaining market share.

      I really feel for this guy and the situation he was thrown into, and I hope he gives the "journalist" a nice swift kick in the sack.... financially speaking, of course.

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    3. Re:Sounds like... by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 1

      It is the newspaper's job to NOT present opinion mixed with fact - then the opinion gets taken as fact

  7. Being held in an MS prison camp? by slomr2 · · Score: 1

    1st thought I had after reading that he wasn't forced out was him next being forced denounce OpenFormats on camera by an unseen gunman. ;)

  8. The Original Boston Globe Article by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

    Romney administration reviewing trips made by technology chief

    By Stephen Kurkjian, Globe Staff | November 26, 2005


    The Romney administration has launched a review of several out-of-state trips that its top technology officer took to conferences sponsored in part by companies who stand to benefit from a change in computer software used by the state.

    Peter J. Quinn, director of the state's Informational Technology Division and its chief information officer, has traveled to 12 out-of-state conferences in the last two years, visiting Brazil, Ottawa, San Francisco, Japan, Puerto Rico, and other locations, records show. Most of the conferences were sponsored by technology and information companies.

    Romney administration officials are investigating whether Quinn violated travel procedures by not obtaining written authorization for six of the trips -- to Brazil, Ottawa, San Francisco, and other cities -- since September 2004. For six other trips, he received written approval from his supervisor.

    The state launched its inquiry after the Globe began asking questions about the trips earlier this week; it is being conducted by Thomas H. Trimarco, the head of Administration and Finance. Two Romney administration officials, who asked not to be identified because the inquiry was ongoing, said Trimarco will seek to determine why Quinn did not obtain written authorization for the travel and whether having trips paid for by conference sponsors would have violated the state's conflict-of-interest law.

    On most of the trips, Quinn said, his travel and other expenses were paid for by the sponsors of the conferences. On two of the trips -- to Tucson and Washington, D.C. -- Quinn paid his own way, according to state records and an interview with Quinn.

    Eric Fehrnstrom, director of communications for Romney, said Wednesday that ''we have discovered there is not a complete record for all of Mr. Quinn's travels, and we are reviewing the matter," referring to a state requirement that employees obtain authorization for travel. State rules also require employees to provide a detailed estimate of the cost of travel sponsored by private firms and other outside groups.

    Quinn was appointed in September 2002, before Romney won election. In an e-mail responding to questions from the Globe, Quinn said that former administration and finance secretary Eric Kriss had told him that he did not have to receive written authorization for his 2005 travel. He said Kriss had given him verbal approvals for the trips. Most of the trips for which he did not get authorization occurred this year.

    Kriss, who left state government in September, did not return phone messages left at his home yesterday and Wednesday.

    Quinn is at the center of a controversial decision to require all documents produced by the state's executive branch to be stored in a new, universal format, called Open Document, that would work with many brands of software and is less likely to become obsolete. The change, closely watched in the information technology business, would require modifications to software running on thousands of state computers and is widely seen as a challenge to Microsoft Corp., which makes the Microsoft Office software used to generate documents.

    In the interview, Quinn said that he was in demand at the conferences because of the state's initiative to move toward ''open standards" for its computer systems, which would be able to read or use documents that are written with programs other than Office.

    Quinn said he sought the legal advice of Linda M. Hamel, the lawyer for the Informational Technology Division, on the propriety of his appearing at a conference in which his travel and room were being paid for by the sponsors of the conference. He declined to provide the specifics of which trips he discussed with her or the advice she gave him.

    But in general, Quinn said, he sought Hamel's opinion ''if I thought there might be an issue."

    Hamel confirmed that she and Quinn had dis

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  9. The power of the Unfounded Charge (tm) by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now the accusations don't even need to stick. Simply whine enough and you will get your way and the other guy will cave. As this pattern is repeated over and over again the spine will become obsolete.

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    1. Re:The power of the Unfounded Charge (tm) by ScottCooperDotNet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Resigning in/after a scandal makes one look guilty, no?

    2. Re:The power of the Unfounded Charge (tm) by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 1

      No

    3. Re:The power of the Unfounded Charge (tm) by LearnToSpell · · Score: 1

      No.

    4. Re:The power of the Unfounded Charge (tm) by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Resigning in/after a scandal makes one look guilty, no?

      Maybe; maybe not. In this case, the "scandal" was the charge of irregularities in his expenses for trips related to ODF adoption. A charge that was later shown to be false. But that doesn't matter. After the Boston Globe printed the story, he was branded by them as "guilty", despite their lame retraction. He could no longer be an effective proponent of the move to ODF because, thanks to the Globe, he would be busy ducking questions from reporter scrums about his trips, instead of staying on message about the benefits of moving to ODF.

      Frankly, this whole thing really sucks. However, I think he did the right thing by stepping down, so that the issue would go back to ODF and not his trips.

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  10. If you can't take the heat... by d3ac0n · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Get out of the Kitchen.

    As the old saying goes. Looks like he took it to heart. Smart too, it's never good to let the cult of personality interfere with policy. While I'm sad to see him go, I realize why he did it, and understand the need to step aside so the argument isn't about him. I'm sure he will be working from the sidelines as best he can. I wish him all the best of luck in his future endeavors.

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    1. Re:If you can't take the heat... by burnin1965 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Interesting comment. We'll likely never fully understand all the reasons why he resigned, but if his intentions are to ensure that attention remains focused on the policy and facts at hand then he has just dealt a powerful blow to his adversaries.

      With the dirty tricks that certain companies will use to pay off or bully decision makers his resignation seems to take away their second tactic which seems to have been employed because the first was not an option. So now with Quinn out of the picture and a super luminance spot light on the issue at hand any shenanigans are likely to cast a very visible shadow.

      Its probably time now for the scumbags to slink away before they are exposed. Hopefully time will have them exposed anyway.

    2. Re:If you can't take the heat... by jmorris42 · · Score: 1

      > While I'm sad to see him go, I realize why he did it, and understand the need to step aside
      > so the argument isn't about him.

      Yea, good he resigned so that everyone else will realize that not buying Microsoft is a career limiting decision. Sure will inspire a whole new batch of martyrs to leap forth and do battle with the forces of darkness.

      Yes, for the slashbots without much clue, that was sarcasm.

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      Democrat delenda est
  11. I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I doubt Microsoft had a lot (if anything) to do with this. Having worked in government organizations in the past, it is generally not a good idea to attempt activism, technology or otherwise, in a unilateral fashion. This is exactly what many in the government of Massachusetts are claiming Peter Quinn attempted.

    Open standards are a good idea, but this guy should have worked the political aspects of his campaign for ODF a lot more carefully. He may have been long on vision, but he was short on political acumen.

    1. Re:I doubt it by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, MS is VERY conencted with all this. As soon as the choice was made to go with ODF, MS was hitting all the politicians about this. And who do the pols hit? The media. They will feed them a line of crap. After all, the globe took something and blew it way out. Of course, nobody is asking the question of how did they get ahold of it in the first place? That was not public knowledge. It was obviously an inside trip job against quinn.

      Oh, this has MS ALL over it.

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  12. In the world of politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Favors always come with lies.

  13. Come all without, come all within, by dayhox · · Score: 0

    You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn - Bob Dylan

    1. Re:Come all without, come all within, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manfred Mann not Bob Dylan

        douche

    2. Re:Come all without, come all within, by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      Dylan

      fscking ignorant fool...

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      Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
    3. Re:Come all without, come all within, by dayhox · · Score: 0

      Nice fact checking genius - must work for the Globe

  14. CIO eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peter Quinn, CIO of Massachusetts

    I never knew Massachusetts was a commercial entity...

    1. Re:CIO eh? by Urusai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sure, it's a non-profit entity whose function is to assist corporations in centralizing wealth by direct tax-funded grants and legislation altering market conditions to exclude competition. This particular form of corporation is called a "government".

  15. Really should take some time off.. by marcushnk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He should just take some leave, then come back recharged and ready to weather the bulls!th from the media. He's not really doing himself a favour in resigning.

    --
    "Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far
  16. His brain's own brains... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    blew his brain's own brains out.

  17. Story? by SoyMilkCowz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't see how this is news, because according to http://www.consortiuminfo.org/newsblog/blog.php?ID =1863, he retired last January. has resigned, effective January 9, 2005.

    1. Re:Story? by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1
      I don't see how this is news, because according to http://www.consortiuminfo.org/newsblog/blog.php?ID =1863, he retired last January. has resigned, effective January 9, 2005.

      You must be new here. Check out the bluetooth story a couple of days ago.

  18. Imagine my embarrassment by ReformedExCon · · Score: 1

    I've stuck my foot's own foot in my mouth's own mouth.

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    Jesus saved me from my past. He can save you as well.
  19. Re:New Slashdot FAQ: by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 1, Redundant

    There are hundreds of other technology sites out there. Sometimes Slashdot will link to a story first, sometimes last. Often it will be duped enough that it's first AND last.

  20. Probably a typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People frequently get the year wrong just at the end of a calendar year. The date in question is probably 1/9/2006.

    1. Re:Probably a typo by scotch · · Score: 1

      I don't think htat is a typi so much as a mistakee.

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  21. OT:Re:New Slashdot FAQ: by coolGuyZak · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    What is with you people? We understand that OS News exists. Yes, Digg is around as well. We also know the news here is usually somewhat dated (or maybe just timed). We *obviously* don't care.

    So please, STFU.

    1. Re:OT:Re:New Slashdot FAQ: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. For a guy who has "cool" right in his username, you sure are an inflamed pussy.

    2. Re:OT:Re:New Slashdot FAQ: by coolGuyZak · · Score: 1

      1) It's just a moniker.
      2) Most of the time I "go with the flow" or make lame jokes... but I get fed up when I see crap like this.

  22. Quinn was a good civil servant by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The Boston Globe article implying Peter Quinn acted improperly, and Governor Romney's investigation into such, was a blatantly paid-for political hatchet job. The parties involved, including Mitt Romney and Boston Globe staff reporter Stephen Kurkjian, should be held responsable for this loss of valuable employee.

    Sharing their disgrace should be Fox News reporter James Prendergast for reprinting alarmist, baseless, claims by Microsoft front organization "Americans for Technology Leadership" about OpenDocument, further speading disinformation on the whole topic.

    What Peter Quinn and others in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Office of Information Technology was trying to do was set a sane long-term document strategy for a state government whose records include the oldest constitution in the world (predates the US Constitution.)

    If we can't read documents that were generated by proprietary formats only a few years old how can we manage laws, deeds, and other material looking forward decades and centuries? At least with OpenDocument there will be a published freely re-implementable file format that can be widely used as time goes on.

    As to MS claiming their formats are "open" they've sung that song over and over yet each time it has proven to be untrue as critical portions of their formats are consistently undocumented or legally encumbered. Heck they can't even reliably read back their own material from products a generation or two prior.

    MS's real fear is that by breaking the cycle of locked-in file formats they'll have to compete on a level playing field with alternative products. The truth is it would take them a few days to come up with an OpenDocument converter, the same as they've done for dozens of competing formats.

    Whoever hires Peter Quinn will be getting a fellow with considerable professional integrity. Whether his replacement shows the same level of honesty and dedication is a serious concern, particularly considering Governor (& future Presidential candidate) Mitt Romney's willingness to whore out critical appointments in return for special-interest campaign contributions.

    I wonder how MS will be funneling the money this time? Will they be washing it through Republican stronghold Staples Corporation or through some other ersatz 'grass roots' astro-turfing front like Americans for Technology Leadership?

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    I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
  23. bought by the NY Times (no, really) by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
    What's up with the Boston Globe?

    In a move that didn't sit well with many Boston residents, The Globe was bought by the NY Times. Editorial standards, even just on a basic proof-reading level, seem to have gone nowhere but down ever since.

    Really a shame, because the Globe's Spotlight Team was (and still is, to some degree) an excellent group; they do in-depth investigative journalism, perhaps comparable in some ways to PBS's Frontline.

    Also, if you're in the Boston area and interested in commentary on news stories of the day, tune in @7for Greater Boston, with Emily Rooney on WGBH (Channel 2), with repeats on 44, I think. The "Beat The Press" Friday episode is especially good- a panel of journalists talk about the news media's behavior over the last week. John Carroll(sp?) is a master at amusing introductions. For their end of the year episode (Dec 23, 2005) he did a complete synopsys of the White House/CIA agent leak in the style of "Hollywood Squares", which was hysterical...and very effective. It's currently watchable in quicktime format....look on the left side of the homepage for the link.

    1. Re:bought by the NY Times (no, really) by schon · · Score: 1

      The Globe was bought by the NY Times. Editorial standards, even just on a basic proof-reading level, seem to have gone nowhere but down ever since.

      Why am I not surprised?

  24. NOTE: This story was proven wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As PJ of Groklaw reported (and as the Boston Globe *retracted*)--Peter Quinn DID have verbal authorization for those trips and was cleared of all wrongdoing.

    I realize you didn't say otherwise, but I just thought it best to point that out, prominently, wherever this information is mentioned :)

    After all, the first Boston Globe article was front page news. The retraction was burried deep in the middle of a section not many would see :-/

  25. As any kid in England will tell you... by jd · · Score: 1

    In the end, only semolina has a thick skin.

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    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
  26. Let them have taco! by mark_hill97 · · Score: 1

    I think that taco could do better than those globe guys, and that says a lot.

  27. Re:Good by slickwillie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good. An appointed official should not be deciding the only file format that citizens of the state are allowed to use when dealing with the state. The state should use whatever software the majority of their citizens use, and not try and force them to use something else. Public officials do that all the time when they choose Microsoft format. I can't acces the local county government website because it only supports IE.

  28. Re:NOTE: This story was proven wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, as PJ pointed out, the accusation that Sun Microsystem provided Quinn with the "use" of underage boys at those conferences is completely and utterly false.

  29. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IE is not a file format.

  30. Activism is for everyone. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Are we not to attribute the same behavior to those promoting the exclusive use of Microsoft's file formats? Your attempt at discouraging participation by calling it "activism" and "unilateral" suggests that you simply disagree with the recommended change in behavior to adopt open standards (OpenDocument being one of them) for Massachusetts state-issued work.

  31. but he's my hero by davygrvy · · Score: 1

    This just can't be?! The BS about him in the news is just the reason for him to stay.

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  32. SCALE to host ODF Workshop for .gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    SCALE 4x has invited all .gov IT staff in California at both the state and local levels to attend their ODF Workshop. The workshop is being produced in conjunction with the OpenDocument Fellowship.

  33. Keep up the heat by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    The more that sick and ugly shenanigans are brought to light, the greater the likelihood of a peaceful revolution at the ballot box.
    The US political system needs an enema at pretty much all levels.
    Guys like this CIO, who are trying to do the Right Thing, and meeting evil at every turn, deserve to be write-ins on ballots.

    --
    Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    1. Re:Keep up the heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing is ever going to change until we get private money out of politics. Ever.

      The problem isn't our politicians, the problem is us. Until we realize that these politicians are the product of our current system rather than some strange anomaly, we will be doomed to suffer the consequences. These people aren't aliens that landed here from some mysterious planet of lies. They are the products of our society - our schools and our churches. It is our fault that we maintain a system that encourages society's morally and ethically challenged and discourages honesty and integrity.

    2. Re:Keep up the heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with your point, but, short of a full Marxist, screw-your-private-property revolution, how will you get there?

      Given that the problems are intrinsic to human nature, what can we do?

      Greater transparency seems to be the least worst direction. If there is a non-partisan accounting entity through which all lobbying moneys must go, prior to transfer to any political party, that might be a way to make the money-trails more readily apparent.

      However, given a system, there will be a work-around. What we really need is galvanized public opinion, so that miscreants are not re-elected, and manure spreaders like the Boston Globe find advertisers and subscribers kicking them to the curb.

  34. It's so sad to hear this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to thank the good, brave man for all his effords - and thank the politicians for killing this! And i'd like to thank Micro$oft and their allies to show us "the truth" - politics is bad, it kills the laughter (Louis De Funès) The good thing is that we're thinking about how to archive data... The bad thing is that microsoft is pushing pseudo-patented standards into the market, with their powerfull marketting and lobbing machine, it'll work out fine for them & we'll get warped back into the dark medieval ages of a digital golden cage, where we may pay, pay, pay, pay, pay just to be able to read our data, if ms-drm permits us to read our data. Of course if you cannot access your data, you can allways try to give a call to the CIA & NSA. They have the key to your data, and they'll open it for you (as long as there are terrorist messages hidden in the content).

  35. please mark parent as TROLL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The UN a corrupt socialist organisation? By those standards The USA has already been converted into a neofascist state.

    1. Re:please mark parent as TROLL! by slashk · · Score: 0

      troll? not!

      more like disenting opinion.

      Open Office is inferior, unproven tech, with a list of failed large scale implementations.
      ODF is a tool used by MS competitors to try to win marketshare in the guise of OSS.
      And yeah, the UN is an aweful model for government IT - IMHO.

  36. Rock and a hard place by labcfo · · Score: 1

    Romney and his administration didn't have a choice but investigate. The Nov. article says the Globe went to the administration and basically said, we've got evidence that this guy broke the rules. They could do two things - say we won't investigate it, which the Globe spins into a story about the future Presidential candidate protecting his own and playing political games, or put their high ranking finance person on the review, at which point the Globe says that Romney is investigating Quinn.

    The Globe went after the story and played both angles - they were going to get a story either way. My guess is they could pick anyone in government and do the same thing. They just "happened" to chose Quinn.

    Anyone know how much of the NY Times Microsoft owns?

  37. Trust the man on the spot. by twitter · · Score: 0, Troll
    He's not really doing himself a favour in resigning.

    Like M$ does not have the resources to buy more bullshit?

    I think he needs to spend some time on revenge. Microsoft should be punished for this and hopefully will be. There's a clear path between the "story" and it's source and very clear malicious intent. It's called slander and whoever did it should pay. When it hit a paper, it became libel and he will be tarred with it forever.

    He should just take some leave, then come back recharged and ready to weather the bulls!th from the media.

    No, he's getting away because the tarring stuck. He thinks that people's false perception of his wrongdoing is creating an impediment to his policy and effectiveness in general. We have to trust the man on the spot for that call.

    For all we know, he's got a really good follow up who won't be afraid of kicking M$ off every state owned desktop. Now that would be some good IT policy.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  38. Why is ODF "in the guise of OSS?" by walterbyrd · · Score: 2, Interesting


    >>ODF is a tool used by MS competitors to try to win marketshare>in the guise of OSS

    The guise? Why is ODF only the guise of OSS, and not the real thing?

    1. Re:Why is ODF "in the guise of OSS?" by slashk · · Score: 0

      it only showed up as a 'standard' after it was implemented within star office
      essentially, vendors drove this as a standard once they implemented it within their product

  39. Atlas Shrugged by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 0

    First a Russian minister resigned abruptly a day or two ago, saying the country is no longer free...and now this guy resigns? Is anyone else reminded of Atlas Shrugged?

    1. Re:Atlas Shrugged by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      Is anyone else reminded of Atlas Shrugged?

      I would comment, but the NSA is monitoring my posts and Cuba is too damn hot in the summers.

      -Eric

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  40. Article was no accident by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a buyout has proved detrimental to a company's practices and reputation. However, I don't think there can be any serious doubt that this article was instigated by Microsoft, considering the background to the story.

    1. Re:Article was no accident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at schon's comment above yours, there is a good connection there

  41. Mod Parent Up! by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

    I never thought I'd do this, but... mod parent up!

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    GLaDOS for President 2016! "Well here we are again. It's always such a pleasure." -- GLaDOS, 2011
  42. Re:NOTE: This story was proven wrong! by alangmead · · Score: 1

    No, the story was not proven wrong. The original article stated that Quinn went to those conferences without filling out the official Travel Authorization Form and by not doing so he is in violation of the state's Travel Guidelines and state regulations. These regulations are in place so that state employees prove that the conferences they are about to go to are real conferences and not wine and dine junkets. The story was very slanted. It could be described as sensationalistic or yellow journalism. The story itself explains how poorly researched it was (why publish to say that he couldn't get in touch with Quinn's boss Eric Kriss rather than waiting for Thanksgiving weekend to be over and actually talking to Kriss.) but I don't think you could point out any particular incorrect fact.

    The later article explained how Quinn's new boss requested that he supply the missing paperwork, that it was turned in and that it was determined that all of the conference were legitimate conferences. It didn't retract anything expressed in the original article, but filled in the information after the first story. (saying that Quinn filed the missing paperwork; Kriss said that he knew about all the conferences and had no problem with them; and all the conferences looked legit to the governor's budget chief.

    I wouldn't exactly call it "buried". It was on page B1, the front of the City and Regional News section. (stories that are buried start on page B6 or so. )

    Now some people will use the fact that Quinn's boss Eric Kriss says that he knew about and verbally approved all of the conferences as if the Travel Authorization paperwork wasn't necessary in the first place, or that since Quinn paid for some of the expenses out of his own pocket that the state has no reason for having any interest in the matter at all. What I don't understand of these points why people feel that Kriss had any authority to override state regulations. (Would Kriss have the authority to tell Quinn he could double park on Beacon Street if he wanted to). The out-of-pocket costs that Quinn absorbed ignore the fact that the travel and conference regulations are anti-influence-peddling regulations, not cost restrictions. The travel form (a one page form, for goodness sakes, not very burdensome for paperwork) simply asks "how much are you paying", "how much does the state need to pay", and "how much is the conference shelling out for you to be here, and are they involved in any current state contracts".

    Some of the biggest influence peddling scandals in the state of Massachusetts have come from companies using phony conferences to whisk state officials to exotic locations. They have a duty to find out which conferences are legit in order to protect itself.

  43. The investigation found NO WRONGDOING. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All his conferences were legit and I've never seen anyone claim otherwise. The official investigation found that there was no wrongdoing. Even the Boston Globe printed a retraction. Apparently his boss could give verbal authorization, or they might've found otherwise.

    That some government functionary didn't fill out all their TPS reports shouldn't be page one news, anyhow. Nor should the retraction be less prominent than the story itself.

    Granted, it could have been a real scandal if they weren't legit trips, but it wasn't. And that's why it's so damaging--it made him look bad even though he did nothing wrong.

    1. Re:The investigation found NO WRONGDOING. by alangmead · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but I don't think you comments are quite accurate. You probably just skimmed my post above, and didn't notice where I already addressed your points.

      You said Apparently his boss could give verbal authorizationI wrote The later article explained how Quinn's new boss requested that he supply the missing paperwork, that it was turned in and that it was determined that all of the conference were legitimate conferences. For further supporting evidence, let me point to a quote from the governor's director of communication, as quoted in the second Globe article. "Fehrnstrom, however, said that Administration and Finance Secretary Thomas H. Trimarco had directed Quinn to fill out the needed paperwork for the dozen trips he had taken since last December to comply with a 1995 regulation " From this, I take that Quinn was not in compliance with the regulation until he filled in the paperwork, not that Quinn was never in non-complience.

      You said Even the Boston Globe printed a retraction I wrote It didn't retract anything expressed in the original article, but filled in the information after the first story The original article did not say that the trips were improper, but just that there was no paperwork and the state was investigating whether they were proper. Since it there was just an implication of wrongdoing and not an explicit statement, the second article stating that no wrongdoing was found was not a retraction. Retractions state where the original article was incorrect, and the second article had no such language. You can take the facts in the second article to mean that the implications in the first article were unfounded, but that still isn't a retraction.

      You said some government functionary didn't fill out all their TPS reports I wrote the travel and conference regulations are anti-influence-peddling regulations. Your characterization of the travel authorization form as being similar to the TPS reports joke in Office Space ignores the fact that the travel regulations have a real purpose in government transparency. It also ignores the fact that beyond the Office Space joke a Test Procedure Specification report has an actual purpose and can produce and actual improvement in the product being worked on. (Essentially, if Microsoft QA filled in more TPS reports and the managers actually read and analyzed them, their products wouldn't be the putrid mess that they are.)

      You said Nor should the retraction be less prominent than the story itself. I wrote It was on page B1, the front of the City and Regional News section The number of people who would see an article on the front page and below the fold is roughly similar to the number of people who would see the same article on the City and Region news front page.

      Yes, the original article was damaging. Today's news confirms it. Yes, it was poor journalism. No one has come to Stephen Kurkjian's defense and explained why he had to rush off a poorly researched article before even talking to Eric Kriss. But when your mischaracterize Kurkjian's article as badly as he mischaracterized Quinn's conference schedule, you are minimizing how damaging the events actually were. (actually your work mischaracterizes them worse, since Kurkjian had the facts right but the innuendo wrong, you don't even have the facts right.) Someone reading the matter and not having a predisposition to one side or the other would see both sides smearing and lying. If you accurately describe Stephen Kurkjian's mistakes, and throw no additional ones into the mix, Kurkjian's errors are all that more apparent.

  44. I am Bill Gates, behold my power!!! BWAHHAHAHAH! by elrous0 · · Score: 1
    Bow down, open source politicians!

    -Eric

    --
    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  45. From a former employee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I used to work for Microsoft out of their Waltham MA office. I was a SysAdmin under Peter Quinn before that when he was head of IT for a financial services company.

    I have no proof (yet, grin) that Microsoft played dirty here, but I would be surprised if they weren't involved. The culture there is to win by any means neccessary. Play dirty, lie, cheat, sabotage. Anything goes, just win that damn contract and upsell while you're there. Customer satisfaction is only important if/when it generates revenue. I have little doubt some strings were pulled or smear was paid for.

    That being said, I'm a little surprised with Mr. Quinn's descision on ODF. He always came accross as someone that was more into self-preservation than doing the right thing - a corporate "yes man" of sorts. 5 or 10 years ago he was a "Don't rock the boat" type of guy. He was a PHB at times. During a meeting he actually said to staff, myself included, "You're working hard, but you're not working smart.". Another time I was tricked into submitting an "anonymous" survey about my opinion of the IT division. LOL - he called me into his office less than 10 minutes later to "discuss" my opinions (anonymous - my ass). He was very personable, someone you wouldn't minding having a beer with, but then again you wouldn't turn your back on him either. Very nice most of the time and pretty smart, there was just a lingering feeling that he'd throw you under the bus to make himself look better if the opportunity came.

    I'm surprised he didn't take to politics better. It was his strong suit back then, a natural.

  46. That's not really Quinn's fault, is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The original article did not say that the trips were improper, but just that there was no paperwork and the state was investigating whether they were proper. Since it there was just an implication of wrongdoing and not an explicit statement, the second article stating that no wrongdoing was found was not a retraction. Retractions state where the original article was incorrect, and the second article had no such language. You can take the facts in the second article to mean that the implications in the first article were unfounded, but that still isn't a retraction.

    I take them merely to indicate that the author got a "hot tip" on the investigation. Which turned out to be nothing. The implication of this is that every last bit of paperwork you might not have done over the entire course of your career might come under scrutiny by those who are out to get you.

    The important point is to denounce the implication that he did something wrong. These reports primarily are lists of who sponsor the trips. Unfortunately, given the nature of the conferences he attended, they are meaningless lists of dozens of random tech companies. Their purpose, government transparency, is not really served by such meaningless disclosures, whatever the applicable 1985 regulations might be. Even if you feel the need to uphold the strict letter of the regulation, it's his boss, NOT Peter Quinn, who was wrong.

    Your characterization of the travel authorization form as being similar to the TPS reports joke in Office Space ignores the fact that the travel regulations have a real purpose in government transparency.

    In this case, as I say above, they are essentially meaningless disclosures to be promptly forgotten in some government filing cabinet. Unless someone is digging through there for something--anything--they can find to make you look bad. As for the new TPS report cover sheets, that is most likely a retronym. Which is to say, they made up a random acronym for the report when making the movie and someone later found an existing report which used that acronym. In other words, it is unlikely that the Test Procedure Specification is quite what they had in mind in making Office Space--they just picked three letters at random and happened upon that.

    The number of people who would see an article on the front page and below the fold is roughly similar to the number of people who would see the same article on the City and Region news front page.

    I'll give them some credit for at least trying to make good while skirting the issue of how damaging their initial report was to the poor guy. In reporting on his resignation, while they mention Peter's discomfort at the personal attention he's been getting, they didn't mention their own article on him... Unless they've revised it since I read it--I read it online.

    But when your mischaracterize Kurkjian's article as badly as he mischaracterized Quinn's conference schedule, you are minimizing how damaging the events actually were. (actually your work mischaracterizes them worse, since Kurkjian had the facts right but the innuendo wrong, you don't even have the facts right.)

    If mine is worse, then I have both the facts and the innuendo wrong, no? But the only thing I mean to say I will say directly: that this story was fed to them by people who wanted to lash out at Quinn. I don't think it's reasonable to deny that, because how else does one get word of, let alone print on the front page, that someone did not file all the paperwork they were meant to? I grant that the article was restrained in its characterization, but being "under investigation" certainly makes one look bad, and it turned out to be all for nothing. If anything, it was his boss who improperly told him he didn't need the papers, not Peter Quinn who did anything wrong.

    Lastly, we'll just have to disagree on the importance of the trip authorizations. For all that, what good is this paper trail? Microsoft can pull strings with the politici

    1. Re:That's not really Quinn's fault, is it? by alangmead · · Score: 1

      The disclosures of an Anonymous Coward mean nothing.

  47. Six conferences in two years? by mschuyler · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I've read through over half the comments so far and seen some very good and cogent points on many sides of the issue. But what I haven't seen addressed is this:

    Quinn is (was) a civil servant, though a pretty high ranking department head. He worked for the State. As a civil servant you are expected to do things like, you know, show up for work. You get only so many vacation days a year. Maybe he got 20 days (I don't know for sure, but that's typical). The point is that in an environment like that you are accountable for your time. You don't show up whenever you want to. So Quinn went to three conferences per year, some far away from home, dealing at least partially with ODF and at least partially because he was an upcoming 'star' for that agenda. Each one of these conferences took several days, including travel time, so I'm guessing a week each on average. In at least SOME of the cases the conferences paid for his way. Now it looks like his supervisors approved every one of these sorties, but that clears him of wrongdoing only in a technical sense.

    Unless he took vacation for every one of these conferences, he attended them on the backs of the Massachussetts taxpayers. That is a legitimate issue to discuss and talk through. Over 5% of his working time was spent attending conferences to talk about ODF, which was HIS agenda for Massachussetts.

    I've been in this sort of situation (though certainly not at that level) and the deal was always this: If I got paid by the conference, I had to take vacation, period, even if it were a speech for a measly $100. In some cases I was able to negotiate a "win-win" deal. If the conference paid my way (paid my expenses), but did NOT pay me for my presentations, then I could use my organization's time IF it were seen as pertinent to my position, or, frankly, brought glory to the institution. (e.g.: If I were a keynote speaker and my boss could brag to the board that I 'keynoted the blah blah conference') Even in these cases it ain't easy because it tends to cause dissent in the ranks. I once went to Sweden--at entirely my own expense--to receive an IT award and people griped that I was allowed to go.

    I would think, however, that attending three conferences per year in any fashion like this would be really pushing it. I would think that a supervisor who was actually paying attention here would have said, "Hey, Quinn. You've been attending all these conferences, and, yes, I've given my permission so far on all of them, but it seems like every few weeks you are gone somewhere else and nowhere to be found. Now I find out you're pushing your OSD idea. We've talked about that and lets keep talking, but you know: this is not a done deal here and there are lots of issues to deal with before it is. Not everybody likes it and it's a problem when people see you pushing this on the outside. So I think that if you want to go to any more conferences, take vacation to do it. That way we avoid any sort of conflict of interest here where the taxpayer is footing the bill for your agenda. Deal?"

    I think that pretty well would have taken care of the issue. And as has been pointed out elsewhere, in a dog-eat-dog environment, when you get into trouble, it's the little issues which normally slide that they'll get you on. You made a long distance call on a state telephone for a personal reason. You didn't fill out a silly form, that sort of thing.

    So a pox on all the houses that deserve it here, including yet another journalist who thinks a B.A. in Communications makes him into a perceptive and worldly-wise person, but Quinn is not without some cuplability here. In hindsight, a little foresight might have prevented the entire affair.

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  48. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting. FWIW, they're true, although I have no means to prove that here, even if I were logged in. I was more curious as to whether it would prompt you to reciprocate.

    So you are close to the story, then?

    1. Re:Hmmm... by alangmead · · Score: 1

      I don't even know if you are the same person from all four postings or if I'm being ganged up on by four different people. I, on the other hand have hundreds of postings written over a half-dozen years for people to look up and judge me on.

      I have a user name that is only a slight variation on my given name, so you can google all sorts of stuff I've written. In postings to slashdot, I've talked about my work. You can tell who I know personally based on references to out-of-band conversations.

      The "Post Anonymously" button is sitting there a couple of inches below the comment's text box, I made a conscious choice not to check it so that people could take my comments based on who they know me to be. (or can learn.)

  49. Re:Good by CFrankBernard · · Score: 1

    Duh, but the webpage that only opens correctly with IE is a file.

  50. Re:Good by slickwillie · · Score: 1
    You are correct.

    I should have been more liberal with the

    's. Plus I left out the last line, which should have been "Forest ... trees."

  51. Flamebait? by mschuyler · · Score: 1

    You must be joking.

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