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Google Video Store Announced

acid06 writes "Engadget and BusinessWeek covers Larry Page's talk at CES regarding the much anticipated Google Video Store. The rumours proved to be true and they're really going online with CBS to sell commercial-free episodes of their series. Deals with NBA, Sony BMG and Greencine.com were also announced." From the BusinessWeek article: "The video providers have the option of offering content on a download-to-own or download-to-rent basis. In a sign that content owners will likely pursue different approaches through Google Video, the National Basketball Association will sell broadcasts of its games one day after the event for $3.95. Meanwhile, public television staple Charlie Rose will post his interviews the day after a broadcast, allowing a free streaming for the first 24 hours then making it downloadable afterward for 99 cents each. Meanwhile, CBS is selling episodes of its popular 'CSI' and 'Survivor' series at the standard iTunes price of $1.99 per download."

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  1. What about Google Pack? by wordisms · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you seen this?

    http://pack.google.com/

    Info here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/

    Busy day for Google.

    1. Re:What about Google Pack? by teslatug · · Score: 3, Informative

      Suggestions for inclusion are being taken here.

    2. Re:What about Google Pack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Info here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/

      Can people please stop linking to the front page of weblogs? It makes the link useless after a day or two, when the next article is posted on the weblog. See that link that says "Permalink"? It's a fundamental part of weblogs. That's what you link to. It stops linkrot.

    3. Re:What about Google Pack? by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 4, Informative

      For those of you who don't know, the "Google Video Player" is apparently a browser plugin based on the VLC media player.

    4. Re:What about Google Pack? by typobox43 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Trillian is part of the Pack, just not installed by default. Take a look at this page.

  2. Now we know by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    We now know the answer to the previous slash article:

    If DVD Is Dead, What's Next?

    google Video store!

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  3. talk about a head start... by User+956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So Apple, and now google, have video offerings. Video blogs are popping up all over.... and microsoft is just getting around to launching a music store (that, by the way, isn't even open yet).

    ] I realize that Microsoft expects to be able to dominate by competing brutally on price, and by leveraging the xbox platform, but how much of a head start are they going to give Google?

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  4. Welcome... by Spytap · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Welcome to the REAL cable a-la-carte, where I don't even need a connection to watch my favorite shows, just download them for 2 bucks a pop. If you normally watch 5 or 6 shows with any regularity, over a full 22 episode season, that comes out to 264 bucks a year. How much are you paying for cable yearly?

    1. Re:Welcome... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Interesting
      If you normally watch 5 or 6 shows with any regularity, over a full 22 episode season, that comes out to 264 bucks a year. How much are you paying for cable yearly?

      $600 per year for cable. However I watch a lot more than just 5 or 6 shows. The cost per show has to drop significantly before this would be attractive for me, especially considering the poor video quality compared to my TV.

    2. Re:Welcome... by prockcore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you normally watch 5 or 6 shows with any regularity, over a full 22 episode season, that comes out to 264 bucks a year. How much are you paying for cable yearly?

      Definitely more than that, but I also have about 15 shows in my TiVo Season Pass list. Not to mention all the little shows on History Channel and Discovery that I watch randomly.

      I also get them from the cable company at 720x480, not 320x240.

      It's a far better deal to buy those shows on DVD anyway.. it's cheaper, you get extras like behind the scenes and commentary, and it's better resolution.

    3. Re:Welcome... by msobkow · · Score: 4, Informative

      Err, you miss the point.

      Cable providers get the majority of their feeds via digital satellite nowadays, not analogue. They run it through hardware that reduces the MPEG blocking artifacts and blast it down their analogue pipes. In some cases, the digital-analogue conversions are done rather close to your house with a digital main trunk.

      Of course the average consumer doesn't realize that, so they make arguments like yours, thinking it's similar to the old vinyl vs. CD argument. I remember vinyl audiophiles insisting their records sounded better than CDs even for groups that were using CD-rate digital mastering back in the '80s. They simply refused to accept that the "improvement" was signal smoothing that is now done in the digital domain by high-end audio players.

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  5. beyond American shores? by nighty5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a whole world out there, and I just hope that Google comes to the party and starts selling videos beyond American shores .

    We're dying out here in Australia, our local content providers suck arse. They swabble over stations, muck about the times, cut shows mid season, cancel whole seasons, are usually up to 18 months behind the US in delivery. Its beyond contempt.

    We are entering a brave new world in video delivery content, finally, a medium that puts the consumer in charge of the loungeroom. Lets only hope that offshore countries are also in for the ride.

  6. I have an uneasy feel about this by Psionicist · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFA doesn't say anything about DRM on the videos you can buy. I quote:

    ne of the more interesting aspects of the Video Store, however, is the fact that they're also making their non-copy-protected content available for download DRM-free encoded for the iPod and PSP (though there's also no word on what it is we're going to have to deal with in terms of DRM on purchased Google Video content).

    According to Wall Street Journal ( http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB11364381456 4838423-wGEG4V5bN3Q0Pm7bvt0ceWXfYjQ_20060112.html? mod=blogs ):

    Some details of Google's online video service remain unclear, such as how much content owners might charge consumers to download their videos. Google last year had said it planned to allow content owners to charge for videos, but it hadn't activated that feature. Interest in delivering video over the Internet has surged since October, when Apple began offering downloads of popular TV shows through a partnership with Walt Disney Co. Google has developed its own digital-rights-management software to protect downloaded videos from piracy.

    So Google is now creating their own DRM. And they have a partnership with Walt Disney. Anyone else feel a conflicting interest here? Yeah, business is business, but I really liked the "do no evil"-mantra. At least I liked Googles _taste_. Buying AOL of all companies AND creating DRM is not what I'd expect from Google.

    On the other hand, Apple did it, and most people still like Apple. It's a sad world when the best we can do is hope for the lesser of all evils to win...

  7. So, what about... by rpdillon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...Linux support?

    For a company that is internet based and uses Linux heavily on the backend, I'm kind of surprised they don't support Linux more in their product lines to give back something to the community that helped them start up.

    I browsed through pack.google.com but didn't see any mention of a Linux offering now or in the future. I'd love to see Google Earth and Google Desktop on Linux, not to mention the video stuff.

    Anyone heard anything about this?

  8. Re:Google Pack Is Insecure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    They use an active x/firefox plugin, and don't tell you about it. (And funnily enough, MS is going to a stand alone windows update).

    http://pack.google.com/common_installer.js

    they dont put it in the firefox directory either... its in the google updater directory. Granted, it doesnt do much work, but adding another 50K visual studio plugin to firefox is not good. the idea is good though, one stop updating of internet facing apps. bad implementation. also, the programs google pack installs STILL do their own update checks which is annoying. in fact, after installing google earth via google updater I ran it and it said there was an update available :)

  9. Too expensive by an order of magnitude by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most tv shows have a budget under a couple of million per episode. Most tv shows do not make a profit until they hit syndication, which usually requires around 100 episodes in the can.

    TV show downloads have the potential to make first run TV shows profitable up front, no need for syndication. But pricing levels of $1 or $2 per show for non-niche shows are beyond reasonable.

    Take a look at "Lost," one of the most expensive shows on TV today, they've been doing around 20M viewers per episode in the USA alone. If only 10% of those viewers go to pay-for-download that's $4M per episiode, which is already turning a profit never mind the commercial fees for the remaining 18M viewers still watching it over the air with commercials. At 20% of the audience or just 4M viewers, the revenue becomes $8M which is probably significantly more profitable than any show ever in the history of US broadcasting.

    Thus these big-name, big-budget shows should tend to be priced closer to 20cents per episode if there was real competition. Similarly, the shows with smaller audiences often have much smaller budgets (for example an episode of anime usually costs $200K-$300K to produce) and should still be inline with pricing in the 15-30 cents/episode range.

    Don't even get me started on video quality - itunes video is far too low resolution, I believe a pseudo-HD resolution of around 960x540 ought to be an absolute minimum considering that MPEG4/AVC1/H264 can do that reasonably well in about 500MB.

  10. Re:Inevitable by 222 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, I actually RTFA.

    "Besides programming from CBS, the NBA and Charlie Rose, the list of other video material that will be sold through Google includes: old episodes from "I Love Lucy," "The Twilight Zone," and "The Brady Bunch;" music videos from Sony BMG; and historic video from Getty Images."
    There is a bit of fuss over a new form of DRM, but It certainly isn't mandatory on the distributors end.

    I'm so happy about the twilight zone episodes I dont know what to think!~

  11. Variable pricing makes sense by geekee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Surprised no one is complaining about the variable pricing. Now the greedy music/movie industry can rip us off with variable pricing and they now have a competitor to threaten Apple with. Hope things don't go that way!"

    Variable pricing makes sense. Why should a company like Apple or Google have the power to decide what a video or a song is worth? The content provider owns the material. That person has the exclusive right to charge what he thinks a song or video is worth. The ditributor only has the right to tack on his fee in addition to the content cost. Apple claiming that every song is worth $0.99 is the essentially price fixing. They're leveraging their monopoly in the online music distribution market to dictate the value of songs they didn't even create.

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  12. NBA by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny
    National Basketball Association will sell broadcasts of its games one day after the event for $3.95.

    Day-old basketball for four bucks. Oh yeah, that'll be a million-seller.

  13. Re:Google needs to slow down by generic-man · · Score: 3, Informative

    Okay, Mister Sarcasmpants. Screw Google. Which search engine actually serves valid HTML pages to me?

    (Give up? It's MSN! MSN's search page, search.msn.com, is valid HTML! The results pages are too. Time for you to switch.)

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  14. Google is shipping DRM? by Anthony+Liguori · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google ships DRM.

    DRM is evil.

    Therefore Google is doing evil.

    Liars.

  15. I don't. by acid06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If anyone can possibly make a good and fair DRM system, it's Google.

    I don't know if they'll end up screwing this one up and end up just playing along the content providers game but there's a chance that a new breed of fair DRM will emerge from Google.

    I think that the DRM concept isn't necessarily the problem. The problem lies in its current implementations.

    Well, at least, most of them.

    It comes to me that a very nicely implemented sorta DRM system is Valve's Steam. It actually adds value, IMHO. I don't know its innards but it seems to provide some kind of developer platform which abstracts content loading, so that it can be downloaded on demand. A direct consequence of this is that I don't ever need to worry about losing the game disks of a Steam powered game. I can always download them again. I find this pretty neat.

  16. Re:Availibility by Pollardito · · Score: 3, Insightful
    this BBC article addresses this just a little :
    Details about the service outside the US are sketchy. Mr Page said he expected different content to be available in different parts of the world, depending on rights issues. "The rights for video are really complicated so generally you are going to see video that is licensed for particular countries," he said.