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Wasp Larvae Feed on Zombie Roaches

TheUploader writes "The story leaves nothing to embellish: The wasp, Ampulex compressa, has evolved to inject a toxin into a specific part of a roach's brain, turning it into a zombie. The wasp then leads the zombie roach into the wasp's nest, lays eggs inside it, and waits for its young to hatch, who will then go on to do the same to more roaches."

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  1. More proof.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    of God's Intelligent Design on Earth

    1. Re:More proof.. by Sj0 · · Score: 2

      Sir, you deserve +5 funny for that remark.

      Thanks for starting my day with a laugh.

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    2. Re:More proof.. by Decaff · · Score: 4, Interesting

      of God's Intelligent Design on Earth

      Parasitism was one of the reasons that Charles Darwin lost his faith in later years. How could a loving God create so much suffering?

    3. Re:More proof.. by Creosote · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mark Twain also saw wasp parasitism in particular as an argument against benevolent design. See, for example, his late sketch "Little Bessie".

    4. Re:More proof.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Absolutely! You, sir, have proved that if this was intelligently designed, then the designer was one sick fucker.

    5. Re:More proof.. by BLAG-blast · · Score: 2, Funny
      Parasitism was one of the reasons that Charles Darwin lost his faith in later years. How could a loving God create so much suffering?

      Well, obviously the cockroach was a sinner. It doesn't happen to cockroaches who are good and don't commit sins.

      Repend! Repend! Or W.A.S.P.s will lay eggs in your brain.

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    6. Re:More proof.. by no_pets · · Score: 5, Funny

      Too bad He didn't help intelligently design their web server. It's /.ed already.

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    7. Re:More proof.. by blair1q · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mark Twain is the Prophet of God and the Word that he speaks is True.

    8. Re:More proof.. by somethinghollow · · Score: 2, Funny

      How could a loving God create so much suffering? Biblically speaking, we were created in god's images. As the old saying goes, we hurt the ones we love. So, god must do the same, just on a much grander scale.

      Or maybe god is just really in to S&M. He just forgot to give us a safe word...

    9. Re:More proof.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you prove that it can't be proven or not?

    10. Re:More proof.. by yurnotsoeviltwin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course, it can't be disproven either. I find it hilarious when people point this out, because science, by definition, is experimental study of the natural world. When you leave the realm of the natural world, it isn't science anymore. That doesn't mean there isn't anything outside of the natural world, it just means that we can't come to any conclusions about it scientifically.

    11. Re:More proof.. by Da+Masta · · Score: 2, Funny

      He just forgot to give us a safe word...

      But he did give us one -- his name, however it is you pronounce it.

    12. Re:More proof.. by Chrononium · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When the United States sent over all of those troops (i.e. fathers and sons) to Europe and the Pacific to combat an enemy threatening all of humanity, was there a lot of suffering at home? Yes. Did many of those boys die pointless deaths in Normandy and beyond? Yes. Was the suffering bad? Yes. Was the suffering senseless? NO.

      Do not presume that if humans do not know the reason behind the suffering that there is no reason. That suffering is somehow always evil and to be avoided.

      Attach the butterfly effect to something as "senseless" as a parasite slowly consuming its host and its following generations and you end up with a very complex picture. Perhaps, just maybe, all those environmentalists chanting that everything is connected are right.

    13. Re:More proof.. by atokata · · Score: 2, Funny

      This from a guy who advocates killing for peace in his sig. If you don't get it when it's spelled out like that, you probably never will.

    14. Re:More proof.. by KDR_11k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think we were really created in God's image unless God was little more than a subservient monkey, which is what Adam and Eve were before the serpent made them eat the apple. The apple is what turned them into humans. Yet we are told to yearn for the days when we were still monkeys and be ashamed for being what we are (inherited sin and all that nonsense)? Did the Greek demonize Prometheus? Then why do we demonize the serpent and ourselves?

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    15. Re:More proof.. by alienburrito · · Score: 2, Insightful

      proof of inteligent design indeed. The Flying spaghetti monster is an amazing being indeed.

    16. Re:More proof.. by killjoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think he got it messed up though. You are supposed to stop inflicting pain once somebody says the safe word.

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    17. Re:More proof.. by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Interesting
      This tends to be my ultimate point in arguments with religious nuts. Even if you can convince me that faith is better than proof, etc., I still don't like God very much. I mean, we tend to put people who behave like that in prisons or asylums, and I'm supposed to worship the guy?

      I think you'd enjoy reading The End of Pascal's Wager. I came to the same conclusion a long time ago, but Richard Carrier knows how to word things without sounding like an idiot...
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    18. Re:More proof.. by countach · · Score: 2, Funny

      Christianity says that all the earth is fallen because of man's sin. Why that would affect wasps isn't clear, but certainly it is not inconsistent with the Christian world view.

    19. Re:More proof.. by Decaff · · Score: 2, Informative

      because Loving and Suffering are two subjective statements, and is strictly relative those who subscribe to those two ideas

      Yeah, right. Tell that to the millions who die from unpleasant parasitic diseases each year - "Your suffering is only subjective".

  2. Now... by dmitrygr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now how do we get one into Bush/Gates/[insert your favorite villain here]?

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    1. Re:Now... by itsmekirby · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm not sure that zombifying Bush would help him in his presidency all that much. ... Then again...

    2. Re:Now... by ericdano · · Score: 2, Funny

      Howard Dean has been under a Wasp's control since before the election.......

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    3. Re:Now... by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bush has never been about anything other than serving his WASP masters.

  3. No need to rent Kingdom of the Spiders! by kalpol · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have fuel for my nightmares now for several more years, thanks!

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  4. MMM! by rob_squared · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What wonderful breakfast conversation.

    Anyway, I think I detect an IgNobile prize winner here.

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    1. Re:MMM! by Nataku564 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe this had been discovered quite some time ago. I seem to remember watching an episode of Nature (or something similar) that featured this particular wasp. In addition to injecting the toxin, it also snips off the antennae (disorienting it), and uses the stubs to herd it into its tomb.

    2. Re:MMM! by bohemian72 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds vaguely like marriage.

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  5. Real-Live Goa'uld by kyle90 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just think about it... we'd better eradicate this species before they become a threat to our planet.

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    1. Re:Real-Live Goa'uld by tibike77 · · Score: 2, Funny

      But, I, for one, really do like to welcome our new wasp zombie-master overlords ;)

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    2. Re:Real-Live Goa'uld by plalonde2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We already have White Anglo-Saxon Protestant zombie-herding overloads...

    3. Re:Real-Live Goa'uld by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No they don't control the roaches mind. They inject a drug that pacifies the roach, then they control it with its antennae kinda like reins. Not direct mind control of any sort.

    4. Re:Real-Live Goa'uld by SillySnake · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i.e. Americans

  6. sounds familiar by Paladin144 · · Score: 4, Funny
    The wasp, Ampulex compressa, has evolved to inject a toxin into a specific part of a roach's brain, turning it into a zombie.

    Man, I think I've been on a date with that WASP. I woke up the next morning with no money, a splitting headache and size seven poopshoot.

    1. Re:sounds familiar by Sj0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do you determine poop shoot sizes? Is there a standard scale based on a metric or imperial measurement?

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    2. Re:sounds familiar by heinousjay · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's actually based on hat size, to facilitate understanding how people get their head up there.

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    3. Re:sounds familiar by mrogers · · Score: 5, Funny

      The standard unit is the milligoatse.

  7. Hmm... by MustardMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somewhere there's a Romero zombie rolling over in its grave. Then crawling out. And eating someone's brains.

    1. Re:Hmm... by LouisZepher · · Score: 4, Informative

      Incidentally, today is Romero's birthday...

    2. Re:Hmm... by MukiMuki · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just for clarification, Romero never made brain eating zombies. His particular breed just ate people alive. (best part of a zombie movie, really, is when they decide to rip someone to pieces. See : Shaun of the Dead, or any of Romero's films)

      The brain-eating cliché came from Return of the Living Dead, which had nothing to do with Romero's movie, save for a producer involved, I believe.

      To be quite honest, I thought this wasp had stronger horror movie ties to the Alien series, and was probably even a direct influence on Giger's design (or was the Ridley's? I'm not sure who invented the creature's actual properties). I mean, when they hatch, those wasp larvae DO in fact, eat their way out of the roach.

      errr, thanks to Wikipedia, a clarification on that Romero bit :
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Living_ Dead

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    3. Re:Hmm... by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, and if we want to get pedantic, Romero zombies never ate anybody's brains. They mostly went for the guts. It was "Return of the Living Dead," the comedy/horror take-off on the Romero films, that brought in all the brain-eating.

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  8. I just moved to New York City by SetupWeasel · · Score: 5, Funny

    so I'd like to say...

    SUCK IT YOU FUCKING ROACHES!

    I feel better now.

    1. Re:I just moved to New York City by clump · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yea, typical New Yorker remark. You'll fit right in.

    2. Re:I just moved to New York City by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh yeah, well suck it yourself, buddy. -The New York roaches

  9. Welcome by mlawmlaw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Roaches have apparently been taken over -- 'conquered' if you will -- by a master race of giant space wasps. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the wasps will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground honey caves.

    1. Re:Welcome by deathy_epl+ccs · · Score: 2, Funny

      What, you think they're only gonna enslave humans and cockroaches? Why stop there... Yesterday, the Cockroach... Today, Humanity. Tommorow - Honey Bees!

      Mmmm... Honey

  10. ... I knew a girl by JMZorko · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... who did the same sort of thing -- well, sorta :-)

    Regards

    John

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  11. Not really new... by massivefoot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well the site appears to have been well and truly Slashdotted already. However, zombifying a creature for your own benefit isn't anything new.

    I seem to recall there exists a paracite who's lifecycle consists of:
    Be born in sheep shit.
    Get eaten by an ant.
    Zombify ant to cause it to climb grass, where it will be eaten by a sheep.
    Reproduce inside digestive system of sheep.

    If anyone who actually payed attention in biology classes cares to elaborate, please do!

    1. Re:Not really new... by NorbrookC · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're thinking of Dicrocoelium dendriticum, the sheep liver fluke. The eggs get passed out in the feces, and are eaten by a snail. The snail sheds a second-stage larvae, which is eaten by an ant. The parasite causes the ant to become negatively geotropic - it climbs up onto the grass - and is eaten by the sheep, where it grows into an adult and starts the whole process over.

    2. Re:Not really new... by Marko+DeBeeste · · Score: 3, Funny
      You forgot:

      ...Profit!!

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    3. Re:Not really new... by bcmm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There are many parasites/diseases which cause interesting self-destructive tendencies in the host which take the parasite to the next stage in it's life-cycle.

      Rabies causes extreme aggression in most mammals, causing them to infect another host by biting. There is a parasitic worm which causes grasshoppers to jump into water, where the worm's larvae have to live.

      This is exceptional because the wasp's stinger is actually inserted into a precise area of the brain of the victim, and because the wasp can actually steer the victim by stimulating it's antennae (I believe the same system has been tested on cockroaches by humans; they move away from the stimulated side by a protective reflex). Your ant parasite almost certainly doesn't have a sufficiently advance neural system to actually guide the ant upwards, rather it probably induces this behaviour by chemically triggering some signal the ant would use for more useful behaviour, the same way rabies causes dogs to pass on saliva by becoming aggressive.

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  12. The world is a scary place... by lawpoop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I spent a summer in Ecuador in a field study class. We learned about one fungus that makes its living this way: Spores enter the body of an insect where they mature into the adult fungus. This adult fungus affects the mind of the bug so that it climbs to the tippy-top of whatever tree it's on. Then, when it's at the top it just sits there while the fungus consumes its innards. Finally, when the fungus is done growing, the body of the bug breaks open, and millions of spores go floating about on the wind.

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    1. Re:The world is a scary place... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 5, Informative

      The fungus you refer to is mentioned in this article, which ironically was linked to from a past Slashdot story. They just call it an enslaver fungus, they don't actually name the species they are referring to.

      But it sounds like this type of adaptive mechanism is more common than you would think. Quite amazing actually - how on earth would a parasite evolve the right chemical signal to trigger its host to jump into water or perch at the top of a tree? Very bizarre.

    2. Re:The world is a scary place... by AlterTick · · Score: 5, Insightful
      how on earth would a parasite evolve the right chemical signal to trigger its host to jump into water or perch at the top of a tree?

      Randomly. That's kinda the idea behind evolution. The one's that didn't develop the right chemical trigger didn't get the distinct advantage of the climbing-slave-bug spore dispersal.

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    3. Re:The world is a scary place... by headonfire · · Score: 3, Funny

      i almost flipped a shit when i read in the newscientist article:

      "To view a video of the parasite and grasshopper in action, which includes a brief interview, in French..."

      An interview with a parasite-infected grasshopper moments before death? in FRENCH? Now THAT is journalism, my friends!

  13. Sucks they're so efficient..... by King_TJ · · Score: 2, Funny

    If they'd just go around stinging the roaches, rather than being efficient enough to lead just one back to the nest to raise more of them for food, you might be able to get rid of roach problems with these wasps. Evacuate a building for a while and drop some of these wasps in there. After a certain length of time, fumigate it to kill the wasps - and voila, no more bug problem!

  14. Re:slasdot by dmitrygr · · Score: 2, Informative

    here, hope this can handle slashdot. http://www.palmpowerups.com/priv/mirror.pdf

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  15. I can't believe nobody has said it yet... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Funny

    *Puts on karma-protection suit and helmet*
    *Turns on microphone - tweeeeeeet -*

    *ahem ahem*

    Ready?

    Braaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiinnnsssssssss....

    *Ducks* :P

  16. Slashdotted. Here is article text. by Exsam · · Score: 4, Informative
    Its some nifty-weird stuff.

    I collect tales of parasites the way some people collect Star Trek plates. And having filled an entire book with them, I thought I had pretty much collected the whole set. But until now I had somehow missed the gruesome glory that is a wasp named Ampulex compressa. As an adult, Ampulex compressa seems like your normal wasp, buzzing about and mating. But things get weird when it's time for a female to lay an egg. She finds a cockroach to make her egg's host, and proceeds to deliver two precise stings. The first she delivers to the roach's mid-section, causing its front legs buckle. The brief paralysis caused by the first sting gives the wasp the luxury of time to deliver a more precise sting to the head. The wasp slips her stinger through the roach's exoskeleton and directly into its brain. She apparently use ssensors along the sides of the stinger to guide it through the brain, a bit like a surgeon snaking his way to an appendix with a laparoscope. She continues to probe the roach's brain until she reaches one particular spot that appears to control the escape reflex. She injects a second venom that influences these neurons in such a way that the escape reflex disappears. From the outside, the effect is surreal. The wasp does not paralyze the cockroach. In fact, the roach is able to lift up its front legs again and walk. But now it cannot move of its own accord. The wasp takes hold of one of the roach's antennae and leads it--in the words of Israeli scientists who study Ampulex--like a dog on a leash. The zombie roach crawls where its master leads, which turns out to be the wasp's burrow. The roach creeps obediently into the burrow and sits there quietly, while the wasp plugs up the burrow with pebbles. Now the wasp turns to the roach once more and lays an egg on its underside. The roach does not resist. The egg hatches, and the larva chews a hole in the side of the roach. In it goes. The larva grows inside the roach, devouring the organs of its host, for about eight days. It is then ready to weave itself a cocoon--which it makes within the roach as well. After four more weeks, the wasp grows to an adult. It breaks out of its cocoon, and out of the roach as well. Seeing a full-grown wasp crawl out of a roach suddenly makes those Alien movies look pretty derivative. I find this wasp fascinating for a lot of reasons. For one thing, it represents an evolutionary transition. Over and over again, free-living organisms have become parasites, adapting to hosts with exquisite precision. If you consider a full-blown parasite, it can be hard to conceive of how it could have evolved from anything else. Ampulex offers some clues, because it exists in between the free-living and parasitic worlds. Amuplex is not technically a parasite, but something known as an exoparasitoid. In other words, a free-living adult lays an egg outside a host, and then the larva crawls into the host. One could easily imagine the ancestors of Ampulex as wasps that laid their eggs near dead insects--as some species do today. These corpse-feeding ancestors then evolved into wasps that attacked living hosts. Likewise, it's not hard to envision an Ampulex-like wasp evolving into full-blown parasitoids that inject their eggs directly into their hosts, as many species do today. And then there's the sting. Ampulex does not want to kill cockroaches. It doesn't even want to paralyze them the way spiders and snakes do, since it is too small to drag a big paralyzed roach into its burrow. So instead it just delicately retools the roach's neural network to take away its motivation. Its venom does more than make roaches zombies. It also alters their metabolism, so that their intake of oxygen drops by a third. The Israeli researchers found that they could also drop oxygen consumption in cockroaches by injecting paralyzing drugs or by removing the neurons that the wasps disable with their sting. But they can manage only a crude imitation; the manipulated cockroaches quickly dehydrated and were dead within six days. The

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  17. Lunch by dg41 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Funny, I wasn't planning on keeping my lunch down anyways. (too much info)

  18. Awsome! by grasshoppa · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, I need to steal some genes from this little wasp, inject them into prostitutes. Then, take over the minds of a few select politicians. Next thing you know, I've got one in the whitehouse...and..uh...

    Wait a second...

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    1. Re:Awsome! by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then, take over the minds of a few select politicians.

            The problem with your plan is that you are forgetting that your host must be in posession of a brain: it won't work on politicians...

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  19. Did you ever feel like a zombie roach? by Baldrson · · Score: 4, Funny

    When filling out your tax returns?

  20. TEXT BODY by tj500 · · Score: 5, Informative

    THE LOOM

    February 02, 2006 The Wisdom of Parasites

    Posted by Carl Zimmer

    I collect tales of parasites the way some people collect Star Trek plates. And having filled an entire book with them, I thought I had pretty much collected the whole set. But until now I had somehow missed the gruesome glory that is a wasp named Ampulex compressa.

    As an adult, Ampulex compressa seems like your normal wasp, buzzing about and mating. But things get weird when it's time for a female to lay an egg. She finds a cockroach to make her egg's host, and proceeds to deliver two precise stings. The first she delivers to the roach's mid-section, causing its front legs buckle. The brief paralysis caused by the first sting gives the wasp the luxury of time to deliver a more precise sting to the head.

    The wasp slips her stinger through the roach's exoskeleton and directly into its brain. She apparently use ssensors along the sides of the stinger to guide it through the brain, a bit like a surgeon snaking his way to an appendix with a laparoscope. She continues to probe the roach's brain until she reaches one particular spot that appears to control the escape reflex. She injects a second venom that influences these neurons in such a way that the escape reflex disappears.

    From the outside, the effect is surreal. The wasp does not paralyze the cockroach. In fact, the roach is able to lift up its front legs again and walk. But now it cannot move of its own accord. The wasp takes hold of one of the roach's antennae and leads it--in the words of Israeli scientists who study Ampulex--like a dog on a leash.

    The zombie roach crawls where its master leads, which turns out to be the wasp's burrow. The roach creeps obediently into the burrow and sits there quietly, while the wasp plugs up the burrow with pebbles. Now the wasp turns to the roach once more and lays an egg on its underside. The roach does not resist. The egg hatches, and the larva chews a hole in the side of the roach. In it goes.

    The larva grows inside the roach, devouring the organs of its host, for about eight days. It is then ready to weave itself a cocoon--which it makes within the roach as well. After four more weeks, the wasp grows to an adult. It breaks out of its cocoon, and out of the roach as well. Seeing a full-grown wasp crawl out of a roach suddenly makes those Alien movies look pretty derivative.

    I find this wasp fascinating for a lot of reasons. For one thing, it represents an evolutionary transition. Over and over again, free-living organisms have become parasites, adapting to hosts with exquisite precision. If you consider a full-blown parasite, it can be hard to conceive of how it could have evolved from anything else. Ampulex offers some clues, because it exists in between the free-living and parasitic worlds.

    Amuplex is not technically a parasite, but something known as an exoparasitoid. In other words, a free-living adult lays an egg outside a host, and then the larva crawls into the host. One could easily imagine the ancestors of Ampulex as wasps that laid their eggs near dead insects--as some species do today. These corpse-feeding ancestors then evolved into wasps that attacked living hosts. Likewise, it's not hard to envision an Ampulex-like wasp evolving into full-blown parasitoids that inject their eggs directly into their hosts, as many species do today.

    And then there's the sting. Ampulex does not want to kill cockroaches. It doesn't even want to paralyze them the way spiders and snakes do, since it is too small to drag a big paralyzed roach into its burrow. So instead it just delicately retools the roach's neural network to take away its motivation. Its venom does more than make roaches zombies. It also alters their metabolism, so that their intake of oxygen drops by a third. The Israeli researchers found that they could also drop oxygen consumption in cockroaches by injecting paralyzing drugs or by removing the neurons that the wasps disable with the

  21. Re:Evolved by AlterTick · · Score: 5, Informative
    Anyone want to try to explain how THIS evolved? If evolution is a series of small mutations, how would an organism go from NOT having this ability to being able to control the roach in such a manner?

    Many insects and arachnids paralyze or kill their prey with poison and lay eggs in, on, or near them. This is simply an interesting variation on that.

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  22. Other parasites with similar capabilities by Sique · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a group of crabs called Sacculinae, which do the same to the crabs they are parasiting on.

    The sacculina is a barnacle which grows on (or rather below) other crabs, squeezing and growing its so called rhizocephalae into the body of the host crab and trying to reach the brain of the crab. After the brain is reached, the host crab turns into a zombie, reacting on each command from the sacculina, even searching for a mate for the sacculina.

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  23. It's quite simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Anyone want to try to explain how THIS evolved? If evolution is a series of small mutations, how would an organism go from NOT having this ability to being able to control the roach in such a manner?"

    Evolution involves random genetic mutations which build up over time. The individual bits of DNA (G,A,T,C) are jumbled and switched around. Thus it is, that this wasp's predecessor, Ampulex gompresst, through two such mutations, becomes Ampulex compressa. Any questions?

  24. Parallels... by Transcendent · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...isn't that what lobbyists do?

  25. more about fungi and ants by bodrell · · Score: 5, Informative
    I also immediately thought of the ant fungus when I read the article summary. Here's some more information about the order Entomophthorales, which exclusively infect insects. I found a pdf that gives a little more background information on them.

    I should point out that the fungus in question might actually be a species of Cordyceps rather than Entomophthorales. There's a cool photo of a beetle that was killed by a parasitic fungus at bugguide.net.

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  26. Mode parent down by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm all for comedy on Slashdot, but these evolution "debates" make us all look stupid.

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    1. Re:Mode parent down by GoofyBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would mod him offtopic just because I'm just sick and tired of people, both sides, screaming and yelling about ID everytime there is a story about nature on slashdot.

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  27. not the roach or wasp as you know them by nietsch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the roach genus is quite prolific and well distributed with only 2 or 3 considered pests. The same goes for wasps, and only a few specieses of the genus are considered pests. A whole lot more wasp species are grown as biological crop protection: the locate the caterpillar, lay an egg in it and watch while the new wasp eats its way out of the still living caterpillar. Nothing new here, except that this particular species has found a way to use the roaches power to move the body to a premade burrow instead of digging the burrow on the spot.
    Unless Slashdot has a very high percentage of entymologists, I don't think it is that newsworthy for slashdot readers. BTW the submitter was flogging his own book it seems?

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    1. Re:not the roach or wasp as you know them by nwbvt · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "Nothing new here, except that this particular species has found a way to use the roaches power to move the body to a premade burrow instead of digging the burrow on the spot."

      Yeah, hence why the headline read "Wasp Larvae Feed on Zombie Roaches" instead of simply "Wasp Larvae Feed on Roaches". This particular mechanism is the interesting aspect of this article.

      "Unless Slashdot has a very high percentage of entymologists, I don't think it is that newsworthy for slashdot readers."

      We may not have a large percentage of entymologists here, but it does have a large percentage of science nerds who enjoy reading about novel discoveries in the world of science (of course until the site recovers from being /.ed, its hard to determine whether or not this is indeed a novel discovery or just a reprint of something that was discovered some time ago).

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    2. Re:not the roach or wasp as you know them by muyuubyou · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What nwbvt said. Obviously the headline is appropriate, and to me it is newsworthy if only because of the perceived cruelty in the attack.

      It's also undeniably amazing that they get to control roaches like that. For me that is the most interesting part, not the goal they have but the means they're able to perform.

    3. Re:not the roach or wasp as you know them by notnAP · · Score: 2, Funny
      Unless Slashdot has a very high percentage of entymologists, I don't think it is that newsworthy for slashdot readers. BTW the submitter was flogging his own book it seems?


          Note how the submitter carefully injected a story into the central nervous system of the blog site.

          Using carefully crafted words, the readers were left with their ability to evaluate the value of the link paralyzed, but still completely capable of actually moving on the the site.

          And once in the submitter's lair, the pitch is made and the book is pushed.


          And although this tactic may be considered by some as proof of an intelligently designed marketing scheme, you can see how it may just as easily have evolved from more crude but similar methods. Previous book-pushers would simply welcome with delight the random web visitor. Then they would notice how "lucky" their friends were when popular blogs noted works and puched more "random visitors" to their book sites. And then finally to the inevitable proactive, nearly parasitic methods employed here.

  28. More zombie madness by burnin1965 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Leucochloridium paradoxum is a worm which infects snails and turns them into zombies as well. The zombie snail crawls up vegitation where it can be seen by birds and the parasite causes the snails eye stalks to extend and pulsate to atract birds.

    The birds then eat the eye stalks and become infected themselves. The worms lay eggs in the bird's digestive system and they are then spread by the birds excrement which the snails eat thus repeating the cycle of life for the parasite.

    Rather creepy stuff.

    http://people.smu.edu/eheise/Leucochloridium_parad oxum.htm

    burnin

  29. Re:Evolved by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Informative

    FTA:

    Amuplex is not technically a parasite, but something known as an exoparasitoid. In other words, a free-living adult lays an egg outside a host, and then the larva crawls into the host. One could easily imagine the ancestors of Ampulex as wasps that laid their eggs near dead insects--as some species do today. These corpse-feeding ancestors then evolved into wasps that attacked living hosts. Likewise, it's not hard to envision an Ampulex-like wasp evolving into full-blown parasitoids that inject their eggs directly into their hosts, as many species do today.

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  30. Best parasitic wasp story yet... by Archtech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is the most sophisticated parasitic routine I have ever heard of, AFAICR. But I was reminded of David Attenborough's BBC TV series "Life in the Undergrowth", which I recently watched - it's available on DVD in the UK, and according to Amazon will be released in the USA at the beginning of May. That contains a few similar examples, including a small wasp whose grub parasitizes living spiders - the biter bit. Strongly recommended, like everything by "Whispering Dave".

    Until he explained it, I did not know that wasps were among the oldest of insects, and that both ants and bees were descended from primitive wasps. That set me thinking about cockroaches, which also go back to the dawn of land life. I wondered whether they were, unlike most other bugs, immune to attack by wasps. I guess this article answers that question pretty decisively.

    Ever wonder how you would cope with wasps the size of a human being? I know it should be physically impossible, but it's too good a scary idea to give up. "The Furies", by Keith Roberts, is a very good SF novel on that theme, which - unlike many such books - hasn't dated since the 1960s. To quote a review on amazon.co.uk, the Furies are "wasps with a 2 meter wingspan and mandibles like bolt-cutters". And, of course, they hunt in packs...

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  31. Won't someone please think of the roaches? by Psykechan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmmm, snips of their antennae and uses the stubs to lead them around? That sounds familiar...

    Remote controlled roaches

    Although I think that roaches will eventually rise up and rebel using their roach controlled robots.

  32. Original paper here by philgross · · Score: 2, Informative

    The original paper can be found here. It actually dates from 2003. Despite my weak biology background, I found it very readable.

    They also describe an interesting middle phase of the wasp attack which was not mentioned in the summary: after the brain injection, the roach furiously "grooms" itself for 30 minutes. They also note that the zombie behavior takes about 30 mins to take hold. Thus there's a possibility that the intense "itch" in the cockroach keeps it in the same place until its escape reflex has been fried.

  33. Not very PC by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 2, Funny
    WASP Larvae Feed on Zombie Roaches

    ENOUGH with the ethnic slurs already!

  34. If only... by Dogun · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, if only I could do that to women, I might actually stand a chance of reproducing.

  35. hmm... by aeoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    And then there's the sting. Ampulex does not want to kill cockroaches. It doesn't even want to paralyze them the way spiders and snakes do, since it is too small to drag a big paralyzed roach into its burrow. So instead it just delicately retools the roach's neural network to take away its motivation. Its venom does more than make roaches zombies. It also alters their metabolism, so that their intake of oxygen drops by a third.

    This reminds me of a social dynamic between human employees and employers:

    1. Employer doesn't want to kill the employee: check.
    2. Employer doesn't want to paralize the employee: check.
    3. Employer delicately takes away employee's self-motivation: check.

    I bet the stuff about oxygen and metabolism is true as well.

  36. Toxoplasmosis by Bombula · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Toxoplasma gondii is a parasite whose life cycle seems to revolve mostly around cats, but it has the ability to affect other mammals as well, including otters and humans, according to the current wikipedia entry. I remembered reading a while back that this parasite alters human behavior by creating tiny cysts in brain tissue. Well, anyway, here's the behavior-altering section from wikipedia:

    "Toxoplasma is one of a number of parasites which require alteration of host's behaviour for their life cycle[1]. The changes observed are likely due to the presence of cysts in the brain, which produce or induce production of a neurotransmitter, possibly dopamine[2], therefore acting similarly to dopamine reuptake inhibitor type antidepressants. A slightly increased car accident rate, and reaction time slowed by a few percent have been observed (specifically, the infected lose concentration more quickly than the controls in the second and third minute)[3]. "If our data are true then about a million people a year die just because they are infected with toxoplasma," the researcher Jaroslav Flegr told The Guardian[4]. The data shows that the risk decreases with time after infection, however all older drivers are generally able to compensate for longer reaction time[5]. Ruth Gilbert, medical coordinator of the European Multicentre Study on Congenital Toxoplasmosis, told BBC News Online these findings could be due to chance, or due to social and cultural factors associated with toxoplasma infection[6]. Studies argue about the influence of the parasite on personality. There are claims of toxoplasma causing antisocial attitude in men and promiscuity[7] (or even signs of higher intelligence[8]) in women, and greater susceptibility to schizophrenia and manic depression[9] in all infected persons. A review of research focused on the schizophrenia connection confirms an association but does not confirm a causal relationship [10]."

    Maybe women like cats because their toxoplasmosis infections make them smarter! Or maybe it's just because women can identify with creatures that are obsessed with their appearance, are impossible to understand, predict, or order around, and look down their nose in scorn at all of the huffing and panting and howling and slobbering we direct at them...

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  37. Sounds like human behavior at the singles bar.... by d474 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wasp (guy) injects neurotoxins (buys cocktails) into cockroach's brain (for a hot chick) turning it (her) into a zombie (an easy hot chick) and then leads it (her) back to it's nest (bachelor pad), lays eggs inside it (screws her without a rubber), and waits for eggs to hatch (shotgun wedding!).

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  38. Re:Evolved by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2

    You really think that Biologists have all the answers on evolution? You are no better that Joe Churchgoer who believes whatever his priest tells him.

    Not only do biologists not have all the answers... they don't always even agree with each other.

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  39. Re:Evolved by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Wl, the first phase is obvious. It's the second phase that seems damn improbable.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's ass. No effect.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's leg. No effect.
    (a hundred more variations till the wasp injects neurotoxin into the brain)
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain. Roach dies.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, other area. Roach dies.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, other area. Roach dies.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, other area. Roach goes on a wild rampage and kills the wasp.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, other area. Roach flips and goes numb.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, other area. Roach breaks into spasms.
    (a thousand more variations till the wasp gets to the right point of the roach brain, with invariable repeatablity)
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, changing roach into a zombie. Then lays eggs and a bird eats the roach.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, changing roach into a zombie. Then rides the roach around in random direction.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, changing roach into a zombie. Then rides the roach towards the Sun.
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, changing roach into a zombie. Then rides the roach out in the open.
    (another several thousands of variations where the wasp rides the roach in random unprofitable direction)
    A wasp mutates to inject neurotoxin into roach's brain, changing roach into a zombie. Then rides the roach towards he nest. The roach dies halfway to the nest.
    (and a new wasp must evolve life-sustaining additions to the neurotoxin and injecting them in the right place of roach brain)

    All the above are pointless from evolutionary point of view, and (as we know) evolution doesn't take long strides through unprofitable behaviours until it reaches some "higher plan", a profitable sophisticated behaviour. There's no evolutionary advancement from a wasp that doesn't inject any neurotoxin and one that injects the neurotoxin and drives the roach in a circle. Only fully developed set of behaviors, from the initial paralysing to settling the roach in the nest and laying the egg is evolutionarily profitable for the species. And the combinatory explosion resulting from all the possible UNPROFITABLE behaviours between plain "kills with poison" and "drives to nest" make me sometimes really doubt plain evolution (though I discard ID as explaination. I just assume "unexplained".) It's just that the change wouldn't be evolutionary but revolutionary - the difference between one and the other behaviour is TOO big and anything inbetween doesn't make sense, so how did the jump happen?

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  40. Re:Evolved by EvoDevo · · Score: 3, Informative
    I hope my post will generate an intelligent discussion and not flames. Here it goes:

    As a biologist (molecular genetics), I would say that this is the side of evolution people in the field don't talk about. I don't think I've ever read any papers (doesn't mean it doesn't exist) in which a serious study has been taken to answer the question of how evolution can be a CREATIVE process. Here's what I mean:

    Microevolution (the DNA mutations and their inheritance by the progeny) occurs all the time, I think we can all agree on this. Macroevolution and speciation on the other hand, is a very hand wavy thing. In macroevolution, new structures or functions are derived from an ancestor. All the widely cited example of evolution, may it be Darwin's finches or the peppered moths are variation of existing structures. In terms of DNA mutations, this may only take a few changes in the actual DNA sequences which regulate the expression (or the turning on) of certain genes. The probability of these mutation events is already pretty low, but one can imagine this happening.

    However, the question in the original post of how single base-pair (bp) mutations can lead to an organism not having a given ability at all to having an ability to control the roaches involves invoking evolution as having a CREATIVE force. As an excercise, let's just imagine that we are trying to create a brand new smallish 100 amino acid neuro-peptide that can control the roach by evolution. If you start with some random DNA sequence and try to evolve a 300 bps (3 bps/aa). You will end up with a probability of 1/4^300 = 2.4x10^-181 chance of evolving that (ok it'll be a little higher because 1/4 of the DNA will already be the one you want). That's a pretty small probability in anyone's book. You also have to account for the fact that while you are trying create this protein, other things are getting mutated in your genome and probably killing off the larvae before they have a chance to pass down their genes. Since you have not created a fully functional gene yet, there is no selective advantage for this specific gene locus, and the half-evolved gene is just being carried along in the population at a very low frequency. This means that it is very easily lost in the population and you have to start over trying to create your gene again.

    This is just for evolving the neuro-peptide. For the gene to function properly, you NEED regulatory DNA sequences that control the protein to be expressed in the right place (ie. the stinger). There are also a lot of other things that the protein needs to be delivered to the roaches' brain (like the entire secretory pathway). But let's not go into that.

    So I hope one can see, that the probability for all these events to occur is very very low, I would say a mathematical improbablity. And this is just for ONE protein to function properly!

    Don't get me wrong, I stare a lot at DNA sequence data, and some things make a convincing case for evolution. But again, it's just microevolution. For creation of new structures and functions, and speciation, a lot more is needed. Speciation is not an observable event, and neither is the formation of new structures. Before we go and hail evolution as the new dogma of the modern man, we need to take this into consideration. And teach it like it is: if the enterprise of science is the search for "the truth" we need to be open and admit the assumptions and the caveats in our hypothesis. And that's what macro-evolution is: an hypothesis.

  41. Re:Evolved by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are, literally, in any given generation of wasps and roaches anywhere from 10^5 to 10^7 individuals. You could easily cover all of those individual variations in a single generation. The ones that were not successful would be gone in another 2 generations, tops, which would explain why we don't see all of these unsuccessful versions swarming around. Like you said, evolution wouldn't follow through on those unsuccessful variations, but that one that was successful is going to reproduce and pass that particular trait on.

  42. Re:Sounds like human behavior at the singles bar.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Funny, I've found another example!

    Wasp (girl) injects neurotoxins (possibility of sex) into cockroach's brain (single heterosexual male) turning it (him) into a zombie (a single heterosexual male who thinks he's going to get some) and then leads it (him) back to it's nest (parents house), lays eggs inside it (marriage), and waits for eggs to hatch (slow and painful death!).

  43. Reasons for suffering? by jonskerr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Likewise, the grandparent's argument implies there IS a reason for suffering. Western religions are populated by such a bunch of crybaby four year olds.

    Suffering just is. There's always something. The buddha noticed it two hundred years BC and noticed it's inescapable. But in the east, they don't assume some single creature is doing it deliberately; after all, it's not like it really matters.

    He also noticed WE make the suffering worse but sitting there bitching about how wrong and unfair it all is, and going "Why? Why? Why?".

    Thirdly he noticed we can make it quite a bit better.

    Last he said the way to make it better is to quit wishing for things to be different. Once we give up these desires, suffering vanishes.

    Westerners should think about these ideas more. At least it would be quieter.

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    1. Re:Reasons for suffering? by lysergic.acid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Crybabies? Quieter? Who exactly are you trying to criticize? Medical researchers? Sick people? Charities that try to raise money for medical research or otherwise help the less fortunate?

      My mom happens to be a devout buddhist and is part of a local buddhist group that focuses on environmentalism, charity, etc. Wanting to alleviate suffering has nothing to do with believing that some malevolent force is behind it. It may be convenient to believe that the suffering of others is part of some great plan that "god" has for us, but that kind of thinking only leads to apathy and impedes progress.

      Please quit it with your orientalist bullshit. Don't drag philosophies that you haven't actually studied into your arguments.