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iTunes Use Surges Past QuickTime, RealPlayer
QuatermassX writes "Forget increased sales of Mac computers, think media players. The iPod 'halo effect' shows its true power in recently compiled statistics from Nielsen/NetRatings and Apple. From the report on WebSiteOptimization.com: 'Podcasting is taking off and iPods are seemingly ubiquitous. Unique users of Apple's iTunes player should pass RealPlayer by mid-2006 with nearly 30 million users in the US alone. People are tuning in over twice as long with iTunes than with RealPlayer or Windows Media Player. As broadband penetration increases we are spending more time on our computers.'"
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...if it has anything to do with the fact that everyone and their dog I see these days owns an ipod. Hmm.
Last I checked, QuickTime was a part of the iTunes installation under Windows. I think they meant to say Windows Media.
:)
But, this has certainly done wonders for the adoption of QuickTime under Windows. It's the iTunes Trojan Horse -- get them hooked on a great music player and a great portable music player. As more installations of iTunes are done, more QuickTime installations as well. Suddenly, it becomes easier to convince the big websites (and small too) to put up QuickTime versions of the media. And to top it off, because of the increased usage of QuickTime, us Mac users get a better web experience as well.
Bravo Apple
dennis
I don't own an MP3 player, but occasionaly listen to 'podcasts' on my computer but I've no idea how representative I am.
How good a solution to general multimedia handling is iTunes? Why might a non-iPod user like me use it?
Simon Hibbs
iTunes is sorely lacking in so many areas too!
'Automatic updates' consists of downloading a 35Mb new iTunes setup package each month or so...
The library doesn't update itself automatically...
There's no concept of 'checking for existing entries on import' - importing the same folder will just give you each track twice...
It doesn't work very well at all with keyboard shortcuts...
No plugin facility...
It's weighty as hell in memory...
but yet, after all these sore points, somehow, it's way cooler than WMP, RealPlayer, and sod it...anything else I've seen.
If Apple were a woman, she'd be a sexy slim figure - and you'd buy anything shite from her, just because she was so damn fine! Not like the fat moose of a wreck a Microsoft woman would be - she could be selling the moon on a stick, and you wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!
And on that note, perhaps I should mingle with real people some more.
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Yeah, their Linux client is gre...oh. Wait.
Did you notice that Microsoft is on a linear growth "curve" no doubt due to OS sales. :)
iTunes is growing faster though, so if this trend continues, in a year or two, iTunes will be the No 1 media player on the market. Not bad at all. God bless those iPods
Reminds me of Netscape when they launched version 4 and announced that Windows will become irrelevant as people will spend most of their time in Netscape. Is it possible that iTunes will do that in the near future as people will increasingly use their computers for entertainment (and not TV, radio, DVDs, outdoor activities, etc.)?
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As broadband penetration increases we are spending more time on our computers.
Broad penetration, however, has been decreasing as we are spending more time on our computers.
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I'm really eager to ditch MP3s for a couple reasons. First, I understand that AAC sounds at least twice as good at comparable bitrates. Second, I'm no more trusting of the MP3 coalition than I was of the JPG owners, whereas I can't picture apple ever seeking royalty backpayments from podcasters using the AAC format.
An obvious solution is to provide both MP3 and AAC files, but I'm lazy and would prefer to offer only one format. Any thoughts on whether it makes sense for a podcaster to switch entirely to AAC? I'm sure most of my listeners would appreciate the enhanced sound quality. But what percentage of my listeners would be likely to disappear?
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I have to say that I'm very surprised that itunes hasn't long since surpassed real player.
I know plenty of people who use itunes, but none who use realplayer.
Still, both are irritating adware & nagware (along with WMP of course)
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If the former is the case, then it is completely bogus. It is very difficult to get Quicktime without the iTunes bundle, first you need to know that they are bundled, then you need to google the link as the standalone Quicktime installer is hidden away on the site. I've never found a link to it on the Apple site.
And everyone has the Quicktime player on their PC. It's in the list of bog-standard things you do when installing e.g. Windows for someone. Quicktime, Firefox, RealPlayer (maybe) and Acrobad Reader. The reason RealPlayer is a maybe is because they have been doing some pretty shoddy tactics to get their marketshare and profits up. Things like hiding the free cut-down version on the site, so that you have to download other nonsense that you don't want.
Sounds like Apple has been reading Real's playbook. Just because someone has iTunes on their PC, it doesn't mean that they are an iTunes user. Especially when they trojaned the iTunes install in via a Quicktime download. The bottom line however is that Apple want to be able to say to the music industry that "we have X million users" when really they are saying "we have X million users running iTunesService.exe, but only a fraction of them actually use iTunes, but we want to omit that detail as the former marketing point is technically correct and way more sexy".
Real player has really wore out the good-will of its users. It is now a pretty good player, but for years they annoyed the hell out of everyone that downloaded from them.
You know...
* having to click through and read 10 webpages to get to the free realplayer whose link was always hidden in a corner somewhere. What were they thinking? That users would accidently click on the non-free version and then give up and just pay for it?
* Nag screens, annoying forms, when installing-- no real player, you will never fucking get my home phone number.
* Remember the instability and the crashes...
Sadly, I see some traits like this in iTunes. Recently, I had wanted to download JUST QUICKTIME. I was rudely surprised that I can't do that anymore. I HAVE TO download iTunes+quicktime-- whether I want iTunes or not. Screw that. It looks like iTunes has failed to learn the hard lessons of Real Player.
I tend to prefer a big heaping plate of Media Player Classic, with a side order of Real Alternative and Quicktime Alternative.
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It's certainly a hefty package. I once noticed itunes added 50+ secs to a fresh windows instalation. You don't have to used iTunes at all, If you have an iPod shuffle - you can use the "rebuild_db.exe" 9k application and simple drag and drop your music onto the player.
It's not needed on Linux. For audio podcasts, there's amarok, which is better than iTunes. For video (and audio, and other) podcasts, there's PenguinTV (use the latest unstable version).
Considering that I use iTunes because I WANT to, but use RealPlayer and Quicktime only when I HAVE TO. I find both of the latter bloated, irritating. I'm not sure the actual root of my dislike for Quicktime, but maybe it's because I used to have lots of problems playing .MOV files on my previous dual P3-550 (1GB RAM), with no apparent fix.
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Here you go. Standalone Quicktime 7 player:e .html
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalon
"online video and audio were seen as frivolous, and a big waste of bandwidth."
Man, if my machine at work was a tricked out as any of the boxez at home, I never get any real work done.
Microsoft is pushing against the grain trying to get any if this shit acepted and businesses, Microsoft's biggest client base by far, aren't interested is in frivolity anymore than they're interested in the constant fight against viri.
Apple is getting sucked up in the vacuum of the differences between what Apple delivers painlessly in the home versus the resistance felt by Microsoft from its huge base of business customers.
Radio's dead at the hands ClearChannel, etc.
TV's dead at the hands of CableVision, etc.
Content costs too much. They just want to run ads and rake in money.
Their inventory consists of 1,440 of YOUR minutes of air time per day. And the economics of running ads over broadcasting means that you have to be selling shit that appeals to a broad demographic.
They want to force you to watch all of their shit and fuck you and fuck what you want. And its stupid, vapid, safe, bowldereized, placified, flacified, gutless content, as per FCC regulation.
The revolution'll be on a podcast. It just sound economic sense.
Broadcast and mass market media costs are way up here and getting worse.
Podcast are dirt cheap and limited to whatever the podcaster wants to produce. There's no pimping you stuff out to somebody who owns a transmitter and an FCC licence and charges somebody new 100 years of inflation all at once.
Podcasting stands all of the economic factors on their heads.
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This isn't true -- Quicktime the media framework, quite different from Quicktime Player -- will play back full screen. You just need to get a different player.
r eenMoviePlayer.shtml
I can't vouch for it personally but this one is less than 600kB with source code:
http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/Freeware/Fullsc
BTW, this exact same situation exists for both Windows and Mac, it's not as though Apple is doing something special to gouge PC users. Most Mac users who don't want to pay just use a different player application. The player itself is just a frontend to the Quicktime architecture and libraries, which aren't crippled or require payment in any way. (iTunes is the same thing, it's a frontend to Quicktime also, which it uses to play audio and video.)
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What the hell is Realplayer? Oh! You mean that company that had a very brief up on Internet media a good 10 years ago and then lost it due to poor licensing, bloating their player beyond belief, privacy disputes, and restrictive supplier arrangements. Got it. They even still around?
-M
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Linux prevented MS from leveraging their desktop monopoly to gain a monopoly on servers.
Apple prevented MS from leveraging their desktop monopoly to gain a monopoly on media players (and DRM).
MS failed miserably on their own when attempting a monopoly on mobile phones by stabbing their partners in the back (I guess they couldn't help themselves).
It still remains to be seen if firefox, openoffice, linux etc will be able to break monopolies MS already has in place. lets all hope so for the good of mankind.
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