Slashdot Mirror


Useful Apps for First-Time Windows Users?

pauljoyce asks: "I'm a Mac fan who is intrigued by the possibilities of Apple's Boot Camp software. Now that I have a chance to painlessly dip into the Windows world, what I'd like to ask you is, what Windows software amazes you? I want to build a list of unique, elegant, can't-do-without apps, so all us new Boot-Camp babies can finally experience some of the great innovation happening over on the Windows platform. I roughed in a quick blogpage to collect the info, and to house any useful discussions. It'll probably deteriorate into a flame war at some point, but hopefully I can get a few contributions to each category before then. Would those interested please chime in with their list of favorites?"

111 of 980 comments (clear)

  1. flame war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Asking slashdot for must have windows apps? Nah...

    1. Re:flame war? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Must be hurting for a flame war... Nevertheless, everyone one knows that the must have Windows software is 1) firewall, 2) antivirus, 3) anti-spyware, and 4) minesweeper.

    2. Re:flame war? by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dictionary:
      http://wordweb.info/

      Search to replace Windows crippled search, though Desktop search may be better:
      http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

      New to me, but have been wanting since before XP:
      http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardli nkshellext.html Video editing:
      http://www.virtualdub.org/
      Notepad replacement:
      http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/

      And of course Firefox and OpenOffice, but those are available for other systems, oh and VideoLan Client (VLC)
      For programming: (also available for Linux)
      http://www.freebasic.net/

      You also may want to check out my learning japanese apps post:
      http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=182351&cid =15073257

    3. Re:flame war? by Kickboy12 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not really. Perhaps you were thinking of the term "Microsoft Works".

    4. Re:flame war? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
      Must be hurting for a flame war.

      That's not how you start a flame war.

      The only must have Windows software is fdisk.
      Now THAT'S how you start a flame war...
      --
      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
    5. Re:flame war? by The+Snowman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the key here is that he is looking for innovative software that runs on Windows. Not necessarily Microsoft software. For example, Firefox and Thunderbird work in Windows just fine, although I don't consider either one particularly innovative. There are thousands upon thousands of programs that run in Windows. A very small portion of these are written by Microsoft. He is looking for the rest.

      --
      24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day. Coincidence? I think not!
    6. Re:flame war? by Duds · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly, they knew full well it was going to turn into

      Modded 5 : funny.

      So even if they wanted serious answers it was naive to think they'd get them.

      That said, AVG for antivirus, run firefox so you don't need anything for spyware.

      get Desktop Earth for your background because it looks really cool.

      Get power menu to help control always on top windows etc

      Get Snagt for screenshots.

      Get newsleecher for news

      Get SmartFTP for FTP

      Get Winamp for media (or VLC if you must)

      Don't get itunes. The PC version is hideous compared to the mac one and in this scenario you already have OS-X.

      And remember that a surprising number of the apps you use on OS-X, and possibly Linux, have ports. Open Office, Putty, VLC, Firefox etc.

    7. Re:flame war? by alexhs · · Score: 3, Funny

      First-time Windows users?
      Isn't that an oxymoron?


      Some Slashdotters have no window in their basement :)

      --
      I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of killer sig, which this margin is too narrow to contain.
    8. Re:flame war? by tomcres · · Score: 3, Funny
      fdisk? Wow, that is soooo Windows 98... :)

      These days, you have to right-click on My Computer, select Manage, then use the Microsoft Management Console to select Storage Management, then manage your partitions there. Windows XP.. it's all about the eXPerience!

    9. Re:flame war? by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 5, Funny
      No, this is:
      The only must have Windows software is fdisk.

      So you can get rid of Linux?

      --
      This is not my sandwich.
    10. Re:flame war? by totoanihilation · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey
      I don't mean to start a flame war here, but none of these apps are worth dual-booting for. They're mostly apps to "fix" windows, and small utilities. There are awesome equivalents for OSX. So what's the point?

    11. Re:flame war? by peacefinder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come on, mods. That there is a post worthy of +5 Flamebait. Make it happen for the man.

      --
      With reasonable men I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter. -- William Lloyd
    12. Re:flame war? by jafac · · Score: 2, Informative

      What about Cygwin? Don't forget Cygwin! Windows is unbearable without Cygwin!

      (screw that SFU garbage - if you even moderately secure your system, their service just hangs on startup without even the courtesy of an error message).

      --

      These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
    13. Re:flame war? by poolmeister · · Score: 2, Informative

      Windows bashing aside a sec (not that use it myself or anything, god forbid!) there is a bunch of freeware/OSS links over at nethomehelp.co.uk for Windows n00bs.

      --
      CN=poolmeister.OU=lurkers.CN=slashdot
  2. What software amazes me? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that I have a chance to painlessly dip into the Windows world, what I'd like to ask you is, what Windows software amazes you?

    Java. Because it means that I can move the hell off of Windows and use a Mac instead.

    Whoops. Did I just say that out loud? :-P

    1. Re:What software amazes me? by catwh0re · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm finding this a remarkable piece of poorly thought out PR.

      Let's take a realistic point of view. We have a computer user who seems to be well experienced. They even have a nicely designed blog online where you can write in your favourite Windows-only applications. Yet they claim that they have never been a windows user before (Making me wonder where they have been for the past 10+ years where windows has been the ubiquitous consumer & business software platform.)

      Now let us pretend for a moment that this actually is some computer user who has already mastered implementing RSS+Atom into their blog, yet simultaneously never even noticed that Windows has existed alongside the Mac OS, nor ever even dabbled in it until the release of boot camp last week(I can hardly imagine them rushing out to a store and purchasing a copy of MS Windows for their not-even year old Intel Mac) So why would they be interested in beta software like MS Max? (Which is really only ever going to be as good as last years version of Apple's iLife?) And why is it that their top 10 Mac apps seem to resemble the top rated list from macupdate.com.

      Now lets come back to the real world: If you haven't dabbled in windows ever then you're either a recent jail escapee or very good at digging one's own head deeply into sand. This story doesn't add up, and is coinciding with a new wave of windows advertising. Which is fairly interesting as it's before a major release is due. I think our friends in Redmond are just trying to peddle off some Windows sales. Now excuse me I have to drink coffee with a pretty lady from getty-images.

    2. Re:What software amazes me? by lmlloyd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have worked with a LOT of designers, artists, video professionals, and even web developers who have REFUSED to ever work on anything but a Mac, and have never used Windows for more than a few minutes. It always amazes me, but I have found myself in situations more times that I can count, where as the one guy in the studio who has ever touched a PC, I have to explain all sorts of simple things, because they don't know the first thing about Windows.

    3. Re:What software amazes me? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yet they claim that they have never been a windows user before (Making me wonder where they have been for the past 10+ years where windows has been the ubiquitous consumer & business software platform.)

      Can't speak for the original querent, but for myself, for the past 10 years I've been in Linux-land and NetBSD-space, avoiding the crappy software distributed by the criminal corporation Microsoft as much as possible.

      The last PC that I owned that ran Microsoft software had Windows 3.1 installed, but I just ran it in DOS mode. I've never owned a machine that ran any version MS Windows as its primary OS.

      I had one job (actually two separate stints at the same place) where I had a Windows box on my desk; I used it only to run Lotus Notes for e-mail (the horror...), Netscape for browsing (this being pre-Firefox), the X server that let me get work done, and MS Word a couple of times (the horror...).

      If you haven't dabbled in windows ever then you're either a recent jail escapee or very good at digging one's own head deeply into sand.

      If you beleive that there aren't people who haven't dabbled in Windows than I must say I think you're the one who's demonstrating extraordinary skill at head-burying.

      --
      Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog
      You cannot wash away blood with blood
    4. Re:What software amazes me? by jrockway · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Why would you want to install the worst text editor known to mankind on your... err...

      I missed the joke. vi doesn't sound at all like "loadlin". :) :)

      --
      My other car is first.
  3. Games. by jnelson4765 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really - there are all these cool games, that are released *years* before they are available on Macs.

    That's the only reason I have a Windows box - to play my games, b/c most of them don't run in WINE.

    --
    Why can't I mod "-1 Idiot"?
    1. Re:Games. by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 4, Informative

      Until you get into any sort of industrial work...

      AutoCAD? Nope...
      Solidworks? Yea right...
      Pro/E? Didn't think so...
      Electronics Workbench? Nope...

      and the list goes on and on...

      --
      TODO: Something witty here...
    2. Re:Games. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, I was going to start off this post the various other products that you could use instead of those product names. But I realized that I don't know enough about any of those products.

      What might have been more Informative (moderators, note) is to do a little research and see what Macintosh products might replace these. As a person who, I assume, does industrial work, this might have been quite valuable.

      You see, it's easy to throw out application titles and say, "See? You can't CAD on a Mac because there's no AutoCAD!" But what about VectorWorks, VersaCAD, or the products from Ashlar-Vellum? A trip to Apple's database gives me those three.

      Of course, you have to look for them. I remember being told that Macs couldn't do accounting because there was no QuickBooks. There was plenty of other accounting software available for the Mac. But the only accounting software that this person knew was QuickBooks and if that didn't run a Mac, well, you couldn't do accounting.

      Check out some of the Mac solutions. You might be surprised.

    3. Re:Games. by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup, that's definitely the kind of app a first-time windows user would run on their own computer, at home, in their spare time. Yeah.

      --
      quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
    4. Re:Games. by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, of course actual Computer Science is platform-agnostic. I'm just saying that, because I personally only use UNIX-like systems, I have very little interest in bothering to learn the Windows API(s) and programming style. Not to mention that every course my school offers is based on cross-platform technologies (although that will change; they're planning to change "software practicum" from Java to .NET next year)...

      --

      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    5. Re:Games. by Politburo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sibling references interoperability with other firms as a reason to use AutoCAD. It's actually much deeper than this. Most large public agencies REQUIRE a specific AutoCAD or MicroStation version for you to even be qualified to do work for them. No substitutes. No converting file formats. We had to speed up our adoption of AutoCAD 2000 due to contract requirements.

    6. Re:Games. by snuf23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh no. There are plenty of other industries that have specific software that doesn't run on Mac. What about large scale "Enterprise level" CRM applications? The same for accounting servers? Hospital applications?

      --
      Sometimes my arms bend back.
  4. Can I suggest by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Funny

    that you try this new application that is out... Linux :-)

    Yeah, maybe not that funny, but its required here

  5. iTunes! by jcr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best app on Windows, bar none.

    -jcr

    --
    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  6. Internet Explorer by masterpenguin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now you too can be amazed how fast your mac can turn from a sleek machine into a pop up filled zombie email machine.

    1. Re:Internet Explorer by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, maybe not first time windows users, but for first time internet users I would give them the following:
      1) Firefox
      2) Wikipedia
      3) Google
      And tell them to go exploring.

  7. Games by biocute · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Play as many PC games as you like.

    1. Re:Games by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny

      And thus it is proven that most Windows users don't actually need Windows. They need an XBox instead.

      Wait...

      Hold on...

      Uh huh...

      This just in: XBoxes suck too. Most Windows users need a Mac and a Nintendo Revolution. That is all.

      There you have it folks. The definitive answer to why you [don't] need Windows.

    2. Re:Games by Shihar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The X-Box (or play station or nintendo) is fine for some games, but PCs simply are the no-holds-bar winner in many types of games. When it comes to strategy games, MMORPGs, FPS, and real time strategy games, consoles simply don't cut it. There is a damn good reason why when playing Halo online PC users and x-box users are not allowed to play each other. The reason ISN'T because they can't make the two talk. The reason why the two can't play together is because the keyboard and mouse combination is vastly more powerful then fooling around with those thumb sticks. Console users would get pwn3d.

      That is not to say that console gaming is bad. In fact, console gaming kicks the piss out of PC gaming in many ways. I would never want to play Mario or a driving game on a PC unless I had a game pad. Consoles are awesome because you can invite a bunch of friends, crash on the couch with four controllers, and beat on each other. Console games have their place, but so do PC games.

  8. VLC Media Player by Chanticrow · · Score: 2, Informative
    VLC Media Player is a fantastic media player for Windows. It plays just about everything without worrying about codecs or plugins.

    Videolan Website

  9. Decent file manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Total Commander, or Salamander Commander. Both are excellent file managers, and they make WinZip un-needed.

  10. Re:Not needed by jcr · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think for one minute a regular Mac user is going to even take advantage of the Boot Camp software.

    Guess again.

    A whole lot of Mac users have one or two apps that they have to use for work, that aren't available for the Mac. Also, anyone designing a web site pretty much has to test it with Internet Exploder. Boot Camp is the alternative to wasting desk space for a Dell.

    -jcr

    --
    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  11. Must have by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Informative

    Theres something most folks will overlook (and I'm looking past the flamewar)

    The first couple of stops should be to AVG and Firefox

    Being a mac user, you know windows has viruses, and well firefox speaks for itself.

    --
    liqbase :: faster than paper
  12. The Only Windows Software you Need... by No+Salvation · · Score: 3, Funny

    AVG, Zone Alarm, AD-Aware and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and you should be set.

    --
    I'm agneglectic, too lazy to care if there is a God.
  13. Depends on what "useful" means. by Kent+Brewster · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you plan to use it for development, you can't go too far wrong with TextPad and WinSCP.

    You might also find Tunebite useful, if you subscribe to any online music services.

  14. first thing I'd get by yagu · · Score: 5, Informative

    First app I'd buy is vmware (hey, it might be free now!) so you can run OS X on it.

    No, really, all seriousness aside, I am a big user and fan in XP of:

    • Photoshop Elements. Make sure you're looking at version 4 at least. I'm quite sure this is also a Mac product, so if you're already playing with that in OS X, never mind. PSE is a light version of Photoshop for about 1/4 the price depending on where you purchase. It has most of the digital manipulation functionality I need, and interestingly has some features VERY useful not found in Photoshop.
    • AVG Anti virus for antivirus. I'm using the free version -- so far I've found it excellent, and haven't had any problems with the machine at all (note: it's a good idea to ensure you have de-installed all of the commercial products in the meantime -- aside from not working very well, they can step on other running anti-virus programs).
    • the Ubiquitous OpenOffice, and it's free. It can be a resource hog, but I've not had any Office product installed on my XP boxes for years now and never had a need, and OO just keeps getting better.
    • The OpenCD which includes browsers, all kinds of cool and fun free software. Pick and choose, these'll take you a long way.
    • Picasa for organizing and sharing and printing (and minor editing) pictures. I wasn't much of a believer in this one, but because of its simplicity I recommended and installed and consulted this for friends and family. And finally was hooked -- it really does a great job for all of the organizing I need. (I believe it's probably on the OpenCD). It may not rival the iPhoto (or whatever OS X has), but it's a sweet product.
    • MoodySoft Screen capture software. I do a lot of work requiring quick and easy screen captures. This one's not free, but it's not expensive either, and I've tried about a gazillion different products, so far this has been the best for me.
    • Any combination, or even full suite of cygwin software. If you have ANY scripting needs, to get real work done and already know shell and unix utils, this is ESSENTIAL (and, it has an excellent X Server).

    This is really a tiny partial list. It's a shame I have so many programs I like to run in XP, cuz I always prefer the linux or some variant of unix environment. But, this is a small sample of what gets me through an XP kind of day.

  15. Most important (mini)app for you Mac users by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you have a single button mouse, like most Mac users, you'll need to:

    1. Press Start
    2. Select Control Panel
    3. Select Accessibility Options
    4. Select the Mouse tab
    5. Select the check box Use MouseKeys
    6. Press ok.
    7. You can now close Control Panel.
    8. Press the - key on your numeric keypad.
    9. Point your mouse cursor at the window or icon where you want to right click.
    10. Press the 5 key on your numeric keypad.

    At present I'm not aware of any apps that you can get that will convert Apple+click to a right click. But I'm sure there'll be one available from the Apple web site soon, they seem to be doing everything in their power to make running windows on a Mac as painful^H^H^Hless as running it on any other x86 hardware.

    --
    How we know is more important than what we know.
    1. Re:Most important (mini)app for you Mac users by 3)+profit!!! · · Score: 3, Informative
      At present I'm not aware of any apps that you can get that will convert Apple+click to a right click.

      What about this?
    2. Re:Most important (mini)app for you Mac users by MustardMan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uh... this is only relevant on the MacBook. The iMacs all ship with the two-button mighty mouse, and the mac mini is BYOKDM. And, as another poster pointed out, there are workarounds available. The software is BETA.

  16. Off the top of my head: by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 5, Informative

    AVG Anti-Virus
    Hijack This
    Spybot Search and Destroy
    Adaware
    Microsoft Anti-Spyware (aka Windows Defender)
    SpywareBlaster
    KeyloggerHunter
    ClamAV
    avast!

    That should get ya started.

    1. Re:Off the top of my head: by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just for the Mac users out there, this obcession with having a "clean" Registry is the equivilent of "rebuilding the desktop" or "repairing permissions" -- it might have some psychosomatic effects, but it really doesn't make a bit of difference.

      --
      Whenever I hear the word 'Innovation', I reach for my pistol.
  17. yawn by Dan+Guisinger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Okay, this is really the stupidest thing I've ever seen grace the front page of Slashdot......not that there aren't alot of others competing for a close second, but seriously.

    1) You need to have a reason to run applications. There are VERY FEW COOL applications. Boot Camp was made primarly for the business world and gamers who have programs that aren't ported.

    2) If you are a Mac user, why does it even worry you? Have you found your program selection limiting in what you do every day? Once again, most people don't sit and think of cool programs to run, they run a program because they need to get something done.

    If you don't have Windows programs, stick with OS X. I've got dual-booting Macs running Windows and OSX, and unless you have a need (and of course, the obvious: a valid windows license), why even bother?

    Once again.....
    1. Stupid Question + Stupid Editors
    2. .....
    3. Profit

    Slashdot motto

  18. Re:How about... by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Informative

    My favorite Windows apps:

    Firefox
    Thunderbird
    Gimp
    OpenOffice
    Putty
    Filezilla
    Inkscape

    Other than that about it's good for is games.

    --
    At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
  19. Best editor by tdknox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Get UltraEdit-32. Best text editor I've ever used on Windows.

    --
    Did you know that gullible is not in the dictionary?
  20. This is sarcasm... right? by Gribflex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Right?

    Seriously though, there is nothing fun or amazing about the windows world (aside from games that aren't available on OSX). The only 'must have' applications are only 'must have' because my IT department says so.

    I'll tell you straight up - If you are using a mac happily now, you probably aren't missing anything.

  21. Re:"Elegant?" by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Forgive him. He's a Mac user, so he doesn't realise that software is supposed to be obtuse to learn, frustrating to maintain and butt ugly.

    --
    Blank until /. makes another boneheaded UI decision.
  22. I have used a PC for 2 weeks by mogabog · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know how to use a PC. Give me OSX or a CLI and I'm fine. But I only used a PC for the only two weeks I worked in a cube.

    I worked in a mac-based office (not a design firm, a real office) and have done years of development exclusively on macs. My servers are OS X servers.

    I do not know how to use a PC more than basic point and click. I have no idea what a DLL is. I don't know what it means to flash BIOS. Why? Because I have never needed to know, nor have I wanted to know.

    As for the atom feed and stuff, that stuff is basic when you setup a blog. Come on.

    Maybe this is astroturf, but I am a very tech savvy individual and have hardly any knowledge of Windows or experience using it. And I love it.

    -A

    1. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have no idea what a DLL is.

      It stands for "Display List List", which is a list of the Display Command Lists used by your Atari 7800 to render graphics to the television. This amazing technology is based on arcade hardware, making the 7800 the most advanced Atari ever! Just imagine, you'll soon be able to play such amazing titles as:

      * Ninja Golf
      * Fatal Run
      * Desert Falcon
      * Scrapyard Dog
      * Plus all your favorites like Ms. Pac Man, Donkey Kong, and Mario Bros.!

      And that's not all! With your new Atari 7800, we'll include the arcade hit Pole Position II at no extra charge! Isn't Atari just amazing?

      Have you played Atari today?

    2. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well since you mentioned it on Slashdot, you are going to get told anyhow:

      A DLL is a Dynamic Link Library. Basically it's a collection of executable code that's not meant to be executed directly, but rather to be called by programs. Orignally the idea was to cut down on resorce usage as you only needed one copy of the code on disk or in memory. These days all programs get their own compy in memory (for stability reasons) and programs often include their own copies on disk to ensure they get the version they want. Their primary uses today are:

      1) To allow the easy use of 3rd party code. Say I want to encode MP3s or something, but don't want to write it all myself. Instead, I can just get LAME complied as a DLL, and put calls to that with my software. That also allows for the MP3 encoding section to be upgraded without messing with the main executable.

      2) To reconsile incompatible licenses. In my previous example, you could use a LGPL program (LAME) that requires source release without releasing your entire source wince it's called as a library. To link it in your own code would require opening up that code. Conversely, an OSS program can make calls to non-OSS software, with no problems. It never needs access to the code, just calls the library.

      Flashing BIOS is much simpler, it simply means to update the system BIOS. The BIOS is what loads when you first turn your system on. Some comptuers call this boot ROM, firmware, or a host of other names. Regardless, on the PC it's what loads when you turn the power on. Sometimes, computer makers with to put out fixes or improvements for that. To flash your BIOS is to apply the new update. Generally these days you just download and run a Windows program and it takes care of it.

    3. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They probably have heard of DLLs and "DLL Hell", but never bothered to learn exactly what they are. Just like I've heard of "FreeBSD Ports", but never bothered to learn how it works, since I've never used FreeBSD (after all, Netcraft says it's dying).

    4. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by mogabog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Absolute - no. I can open Internet Explorer and make sure my sites look right. Beside that I couldn't tell you what to do.

      I'm really shocked that folks like you find it staggeringly impossible that I know what I'm doing and have a good head on my shoulders and don't know much about Windows.

      I build web apps. I need a development machine (OS X) and a server (OS X). I know how they work, and I could take either one apart as much as I need to. I can even get around my DreamHost account just fine without a good knowledge of Windows. I need to test on IE from time to time, but that is it.

      I guess I'm what you might call a specialist. I know what I do quite well, and over the last 10+ years it has NEVER been important or necessary for me to use or learn much about Windows. It has never got in the way of my career or getting a job - it has never been a "BAD THING". Your logic is no good.

      I'm sure I'm an anomoly. It's by choice. Me and my little Apple-shaped world are doin just fine.

      -A

    5. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by FirienFirien · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Bullshit straight back at you. My dad had a Mac SE when I was old enough to think coherently, back when Apple was the field leader and MS was a whelp (yeah, it surprised me too, gizmodo came out with a '20 years ago...' post that was quite informative). Since then it was at each point easier to upgrade within the Apple line rather than switch over to Windows, even though Windows took over as market leader; when I got to university and could pick my first computer, I used the nice 25?33?% apple education discount (UK, don't know what it's like in the US) and got myself a flat panel imac. I was used to macs, and though I'd used programs in windows on the school computers, it was never enough to find out what a lot of the subsystem stuff was. Since then I've bought an iBook, using the handy installation process that copies your entire hard drive and filestructure over so there's no effective change between the first computer and the second. When I left uni and got a job, the office I now work in uses Apple computers exclusively, except one PC for the designers when they need to make a Rhino file in the right format for a windows user to recieve.

      Sure, I'm a rare occurence. But while I've wandered around the web enough to come across the terms (especially on bash.org), I've never had a need to find out exactly what they do. I think there's a difference between DLL and .dll files, and I think that BIOS is the sublayer you have to drop to when you want to configure new hardware like RAM or partition your hard drive. But while I've come across the term 'flash BIOS', it means jack shit to me. The only context I have it in is a quick wipe, and that's only because other utilities use the term in that way, and it's a complete guess when applying it to the BIOS as I understand it.

      You know why I don't know? Because I don't care. I'm a geek who uses macs, and I don't care about the hordes of people who told me I was doing it all wrong when apple were going down the tube, and I still don't care about the hordes of people who think I'm a moron for using macs. I have no need to know anything at all about the windows subsystem, and so when I come across the terms I see them but ignore them completely. I simply have no need to know what they mean, in the same way that when I see arcane sigs here, I can recognise them as being *nix terms or cryptography (I have familiarity but not mastery of the linux stuff, and I've read Cryptonomicon) - but their meaning isn't obvious simply by looking at them, and I don't have a reason to learn the meaning of each and every single one of them by looking them up or figuring them out.

      I may have more understanding of what they are than the average Windows user, just like the gpp. But by no means does that mean I understand them completely, nor that I care to know what they do. I don't need to.

      --
      Browsing with +2 to insightful posts and a higher threshold makes the average post seen seem a lot more ingenious
    6. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, I had to work at it :-)

      Seriously, the "quarter" quote is a reference to one of the most famous Dilbert strips of all -- in which the hairy, Birkenstock-wearing UNIX guru tells Dilbert to go buy himself a real computer.

    7. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by Creepy · · Score: 2, Informative

      really?

      I didn't know Windows always creates copies of DLLs for stability reasons... that kind of defeats the purpose of dlls, but I can see if the library itself was unstable there may be some advantages to that. There is actually another legacy reason for DLLs - the code can be loaded or unloaded as needed, so a large app could use a much smaller memory footprint (and load much faster) since all functions of the app don't have to be loaded when the program starts up. This became more of a non-issue much earlier in the life of dlls, but some of the structure that supported it is still lying around (because it's useful for plug-ins).

      The traditional way a dynamic shared library works (specifically, a dynamic library means dynamic link library [dll] on Windows, shared object [so] or shared library [sl] on UNIX or UNIX-likes, and dynamic library [dylib] or framework on mac) is the application starts and checks its symbol table to see if all the symbols it needs are in memory. If it can't find the function for the symbol (and it's marked in a way that identifies it as dynamic), the program searches the library path for the first instance of the symbol it finds. The program then starts (loads) the library and updates the internal symbols to point to that library's address space. If the library is already loaded, the program dynamically links to the addresses in the library (but doesn't start it).

          It is also possible to indirectly load and unload libraries, which is how plug-ins work (normally the symbols the app needs for dynamic libraries are set at link time, so no special processing is required). On UNIX (and mac as of X.3, though there is another way to do it that worked on older OS's) this is through the dlfcn (dlfcn.h header - stands for dynamic library function) commands dlopen, dlclose, and dlsym (also some others like dlerr). I forget what Windows uses, but the idea and functionality is similar. The idea is you can load or unload and look up symbols as needed. A long time ago, this was for performance and memory reasons, as noted above, but is now pretty much exclusively used for plug-ins.

      Apple prefers using a special type of dylib called a framework. Essentially, a framework is a lot like an application on mac - a directory with a regular structure that looks like a file in the GUI.

          One of the problems with dynamic libraries is they can break if, say, some legacy code is removed from a newer version that is required by a certain app. This spawned app specific dynamic libs like the ones that often litter Windows directories. Apple people do something of the same with embedded frameworks. I've never really found an advantage to doing this over static linking (which copies the library into the app) outside of maybe patching, however, so it's probably not the most useful thing. I might be forgetting some good reason, but I can't come up with it at the moment - even third party code can be statically linked (but perhaps that's the reason - to be able to patch third party code).

    8. Re:I have used a PC for 2 weeks by senatorpjt · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Flash BIOS" is called "Update Firmware" on a Mac. Like you have to do before you can install Boot Camp.

  23. Solution looking for a problem by imidan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    TFA says that the OP wants these: Productivity (spreadsheet), Graphics, Utilities (spam, anti-virus, FTP etc), Games, Online enhancements (e.g. toolbars etc), Other.

    I'm not entirely sure what he wants to do, but most of these categories are just as mature under MacOS as they are under Windows. A spreadsheet application? Well, you've got Excel, you've got OO, and that's about it, for the big one and the up-and-coming, unless Lotus/Quattro is still hanging around out there somewhere. I don't know what state of the art is for spreadsheets on MacOS, but it's gotta be pretty similar to Windows. It's much the same with graphics programs and online programs, really. Utilities? What are you going to do with them? Why do you need a spam filter under Windows if you're checking your mail under MacOS? Do you actually envision booting into Windows and using it for long periods of time?

    The only category that I see here where Windows definitely has a lot of options above and beyond MacOS is games. So go for that. Go down to the local video game store and look for some things on the PC shelf that aren't on the Macintosh shelf, and buy them. Over all, you probably aren't missing much.

    This post sounds like the OP has a solution (Boot Camp) looking for a problem. And unless you've got a specific problem that really needs solving with Boot Camp, what's the point in using it?

  24. Adding a few more... by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    * Crimson Editor An amazingly powerful freeware text / script editor.

      * uTorrent Is there an open source Torrent Client in under 200k? Does it have RSS searching, bandwidth scheduling, automatic resume, and trackerless support? Yes? Oh, good then.

      * As -U- Type. Spell check anywhere. It's a great piece of software, if you can get over the fact that the author barely speaks any english.

      * 3 Plane Soft Screensavers. Ok, they're screensavers. And they're a rip off. But damn they're nice.

      * Trillian. 'nuff said.

      * The Bat! The second best mail client created, behind only KMail.

      * IZarc If there were need for zip clients anymore, this would be the one to have. Also handles about 50 other file standards, integrates really well with explorer, is small and efficient, and did I mention free? Best unzipper out there, including the pay options.

      * Folder Size Shows you how big your folders are. If explorer were made by Apple, it would do this by default.

      * True Crypt Data so secure even it doesn't know if there is more to be found in a file.

      * Thumbs Plus Arguably there are a lot of good applications in this space, and there are ones out there with better interfaces. But it is the only thumbnail application I've ever used that can handle upwards of 20,000 files in a single directory. If you take lots of pictures, this is the one.

      * DVD Decrypter Recently bought out by Macrovision to shut down it's decryptey goodness, DVD Decrypter is really a no-nonsense, no-fuss DVD ripper and burner. Want to rip a movie from a DVD so you can watch it later? One button. Want to rip it back to a DVD? Another button.

      * Microsoft Power Toys Nifty stuff from people who both hate and make the operating system.

    And remember to use an antivirus, a firewall, and two anti-spyware suites. My personal favorites are AVG Antivirus, Kerio Personal Firewall, Spybot, and Ad Aware.

    1. Re:Adding a few more... by CyberSlugGump · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I second Microsoft Power Toys and add some more:

      * AutoIt for simple automation tasks and creating small programs with graphical user interfaces

      * Firefox, of course. Opera is also a good choice.

      * Daemon Tools for mounting ISOs as virtual CD/DVD drives

      * Trillian--AIM, ICQ, IRC, MSN, and Yahoo messenger client


      * QuickTime Alternative

      * RealPlayer Alternative

      * IrfanView--small, free, fast image viewer



      * SysInternals utilities--useful for admins

      * Scanner--shows hard drive usage as stacked pie graph of files/folders

      * 7-zip: similar to WinZip or WinRAR or StuffIt

      * Foxit [PDF] Reader--a lite alternative to Adobe


      Following ones aren't free but are very useful Windows-only programs:

      * FinePrint--n up printing, universal print preview, etc.

      * MaxiVisa--use a networked computer like a secondary display

      * TextPad, though I opt for the open-source and FREE SciTE

    2. Re:Adding a few more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI, uTorrent isn't open source.

    3. Re:Adding a few more... by sootman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The article is about must-have Windows software for someone who wants to see what Windows is like but already has a Mac, so I think he's really looking for things that do not exist on the Mac. The implied thought is, "Show me some great things that you can do on Windows that just can't be done in Mac OS X." That said,

      - Crimson Editor
      I use CE on Windows and love it. However, TextWrangler for OS X is comparable. Everyone has one or two killer features in their editor of choice. In this case, both do a great job with syntax coloring, but TextWrangler has built-in SFTP support, which CE doesn't. I'm sure you have some great feature in CE that TW lacks. That's why I say "comparable." Neither is a direct replacement for the other for all users.

      - uTorrent
      I don't do much torrenting, so I can't comment here.

      - As -U- Type. Spell check anywhere.
      Mac OS has that built-in. It's spellchecking this post as I type. So far it doesn't like TextWrangler, uTorrent, or torrenting and it thinks screensavers should be hyphenated.

      - 3 Plane Soft Screensavers.
      I'm sure it's very nice, but there are a million screensavers to be had. I doubt anyone would dual-boot to watch one.

      - Trillian.
      If you chat a lot and don't like iChat, maybe. I wouldn't call it a reason to reboot.

      - The Bat!
      Email clients are a dime a dozen, most people don't feel strongly about them, and I guaran-damn-tee you no one is going to boot into another OS just to check mail.

      - IZarc
      Again, most people don't give a shit about the gazillion options for unzipping things. OS X comes with built-in SW though, oddly, it doesn't support that old Mac standard, '.bin' Again, we're not talking about a compelling reason to reboot.

      - Folder Size
      Built into OS X; only works in list view, though.

      - True Crypt Data
      Don't know about this one.

      - Thumbs Plus Arguably there are a lot of good applications in this space... ... and there are many for OS X. Once again, how many users will have 20k images in a folder?

      - DVD Decrypter
      Not quite one-button apps, but DVDBackup will copy commercial DVDs and does region-free, de-Macrovision, and DeCSS. To rip into a single file, I like HandBrake.

      - Microsoft Power Toys
      and there are a zillion "haxies" available to customize OS X.

      As far as I know, there are 3 big reasons and one small one to dual-boot a Mac:
      - games
      - specialized high-end software, like CAD
      - custom-built business apps
      - and to view sites in IE/Win. But, like the song says, that's what friends are for.

      --
      Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
  25. Here's what I run just about every day: by Woldry · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google Desktop; Firefox and/or Opera; OpenOffice and/or AbiWord; and the requisite antispyware/antivirus apps, of course. Oh, and Google Desktop.
    I also make heavy use of the following:

    ClocX
    Windows XP PowerToys (highly useful, especially TweakUI
    Notify CD (bare-bones but elegant CD player)
    ReadPlease (text-to-speech)
    Foxit Reader (a much faster PDF reader than Adobe)
    Trillian (multiple IM)
    foobar2000 (audio player)


    --
    How can a post be modded "overrated" or "underrated" when it hasn't been rated yet?
  26. my list by timothv · · Score: 4, Informative

    File management/explorer replacement: Directory Opus
    Music: Foobar2000 0.8.3 (iTunes and dumbed down fb2k annoy me)
    Video: Media Player Classic with ffdshow
    Browser: Firefox 1.5 with ~20 extensions
    CD Ripping: Exact Audio Copy (only Windows can rip CDs properly)
    Anti-virus: Avast
    Shell: Cygwin with puttycyg or a local ssh server
    IM: Trillian (needs to be replaced with a Jabber client + aim/yahoo transport)
    Python development: Eclipse with the pydev extension
    IRC: Chatzilla
    BitTorrent: uTorrent
    Webserver: Apache 2
    Archive unpacker: IZArc
    Mail: Thunderbird
    Encryption: Truecrypt
    JPEG manager: iView MediaPro3
    CD/DVD burning: Nero
    Hex editor: XVI32
    SSH,SCP: PuTTY, WinSCP
    Office suite: Office 2003
    Calendar: Outlook 2003
    Virtual drives: Daemon Tools
    Notetaking: Onenote 2003
    Batch image editing: Photoshop CS2
    Spoken dictionary: Encarta 2006 Dictionary Tools
    Audio quality checking: Nero WaveEdit, EncSpot, Audiochecker
    Time syncing: NetTime
    Firewall: Sygate (needs to be replaced)
    Various system tools: Startup, Tweak UI, Filemon, Peerguardian 2, Diskeeper, EVEREST
    Symbolic integration: Mathematica
    Packet sniffing: Ethereal
    This fun game: Typing of the Dead

    And I probably missed a few. Foobar2000, Directory Opus, and Firefox are by far the most amazing.

  27. Google Pack by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 2, Informative
    The *one* thing I'd download first after installing XP is none other than the Google Pack: http://pack.google.com/

    It includes these helpful, excellent, and *free* programs:

    • Google Earth
    • Picasa
    • Mozilla Firefox
    • AdAware SE Personal
    • Norton Antivirus 2005 SE
    • Adobe Reader
    • Google Talk
    • Google Video Player

    After that, I'd go with the real advantage of XP: Games!

    • World of WarCraft
    • Unreal Tournament 2004
    • Football Manager 2006
    • Battle For Middle Earth 2
    • Battlefield 2
    • The Sims 2
    • StarCraft!
  28. Re:Not needed by Riquez · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Also, anyone designing a web site pretty much has to test it with Internet Exploder. Boot Camp is the alternative to wasting desk space for a Dell.
    What?! Your crazzzzzy
    Boot Camp would be almost useless to a web designer or developer - you have to reboot to test it.

    padding: 3px 5px 2px 2px;
    Perfect in Safari, right now lets reboot into windows & check IE (time passes..)
    .. nahh, thats out, a bit less on the sides i think, ok lets reboot back to os x (time passes..)
    padding: 3px 4px 2px 1px;
    hmm, looks ok in Safari still, righty oh, reboot back to win (times passes..)

    ARGGHHHH!
    --
    * Game Over * High Score: 264,846,927 -- Your Score: 14
  29. Re:Not needed by prell · · Score: 4, Informative
    Also, anyone designing a web site pretty much has to test it with Internet Exploder. Boot Camp is the alternative to wasting desk space for a Dell.
    Or you could use BrowserCam :-)
  30. Here's a good link. by Chalex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Unlike all the useless comments that recommend Adaware and Spybot Search and Destroy, I'll point you towards a thread called "the 'neat application I stumbled across on the web' thread" over on the ArsTechnica OpenForum: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/t pc/f/99609816/m/1400961263

  31. Java for Switching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, I've now worked in a couple of environments which have seen Java in real use.

    In fact, not just real use, but the real use for which people recommend Java. Database backends. Passing objects around. Network-wide management of distributed computation. Monitoring diverse datapoints and aggregating them. Web interfaces.

    You know, Java's home turf.

    I'm not impressed. Or maybe I am. Its startup time is impressively long, I suppose. And its memory footprint is impressively large. And its syntax is impressively verbose and messy. And its cross-platform claims are impressively misleading, the moment you stick a toe out of the hallowed sandbox.

    Most damning of all, the vaunted OO strategy, far from leading to salutary code reuse turns into a game of guess-what-this-class-does. Because, see, information hiding is great. No, really. It saves us so much time in development that we can spend extra time reverse-engineering these closed classes we've been handed.

    In one case, java's delightful approach to namespaces resulted in wasting days writing scripts just to manage the vast, unwieldy file structure we had. Oh, and then a version change. Chinese fire drill on the file system!

    In the most recent case, where I'm still mired, the ops team is over budget and under performance. When we do a root cause analysis, the incredible bulk of the Java VM is the culprit. It's fine to have 28 bytes for an integer when you're doing toy problems in class. It sucks when you have terabytes of data you have to throw around.

    If I'm ever in a position of decisionmaking authority on a project, and anyone suggests Java, I think I'm firing them (if they're a subordinate) or quitting (if they're not). It's taken a year off my life in stress because of its misbehaviour already, I'm sure.

    Oh, but it's so stable! So is anything else sane written by halfway competent programmers, and probably at least twice as fast. Anybody who can't write stable modula-3 (another relatively modern, clean language) won't be helped by Java, and anyone who can handle Java can handle modula-3.

    But programmer time is expensive, computers are cheap! That argument falls flat as a bad souffle the moment you remember that for toy applications this is true, but when you're beefing up your environment by millions of dollars in hardware, and tens of thousands in running expenses just to make up for the inefficiencies in your chosen language, you need to change your language as a matter of business common sense. Add to that the fact that Java's development time isn't all it's made out to be, and the programmer time argument only washes when compared to assembler or FORTH.

    So no. I wouldn't use Java to attract anyone to anything. I'd use it as punishment for bad programmers.

  32. Picasa by alphakappa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, as a longtime user of Picasa on Windows and iPhoto on the mac, I can say that not only does Picasa match iPhoto, it is far superior in usability. The mac is my primary computer and I am an avid photographer and it is only the lack of Picasa on the mac that really drives me nuts about OSX. If you are a mac fan, don't flame me unless you have really used Picasa for some length of time. Here are my reasons:

    1. Picasa lets me 'monitor folders', something iPhoto will not let me do. I hate having to 'import' pictures into iPhoto everytime I want to see my new pictures there.

    2. Picasa will let me put my photo album anywhere I want, including external drives. There is no straightforward way to change your album location in iPhoto (Yes it can be done, but it's a hack)

    3. Picasa will let me add photos to the library without actually copying them to the Picasa storage folder. iPhoto insists on copying all photos to the iPhoto folder everytime you add pictures to it. Why is this important? As a photographer I have tens of gigabytes of pictures that I do not wish to store on the mac hard drive because the storage I have on external drives far outstrips my hard drive size . Also they are organized the way I want them with proper folder names and heirarchies. If I 'import' them to iPhoto, it creates one big lump of a library which I have to organize painfully by hand if I wish to see my original configuration. Also, the folder organization in the iPhoto folder has no connection to the original organization I had.

    4. Non-destructive edits. I can touch, crop and do anything I wish to my pictures in Picasa and it doesn't hurt the original picture at all. I can come back later and undo everything I did. If I wish to retain my changes, I can simply export the current state of the picture. On iPhoto, the edits you do are non-undoable once you are done with the edits. Very painful for a photographer who wants to quickly try out some edits before opening up the full-fledged Photoshop.

    There are many more, but these are the important ones. As for features Picasa gives almost all the features I expect from a photo organizer (which, to be fair are also available in iPhoto)

    --
    "When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail." - Abraham Maslow (1908-1970)
  33. Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by Yaztromo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Let's take a realistic point of view. We have a computer user who seems to be well experienced. They even have a nicely designed blog online where you can write in your favourite Windows-only applications. Yet they claim that they have never been a windows user before (Making me wonder where they have been for the past 10+ years where windows has been the ubiquitous consumer & business software platform.)

    I'm a software developer. I've worked for IBM. I maintain and develop several Open Source software applications. And I haven't been a Windows user since Windows 3.1.

    I always have to laugh when some Windows user thinks that it is simply not possible to exist in the computing world without using Windows. However, it's quite a bit easier to live outside the Windows world than you think.

    How did I do it? Long before Windows 95 existed, I used a fine 32-bit, pre-emptively multitasking operating system called OS/2, which I used for most of the 1990's. Towards the late 1990's, when OS/2 was on the decline, I started working for IBM as an OS/2 developer, where I also did a lot of Unix/Linux work. Around the same time frame, I started running Linux at home in parallel to my OS/2 machine as a way of running software through X that I didn't otherwise have access to.

    With the serious decline of OS/2 in the 2000's, I moved over to Mac OS X (along with running a lot of Unix systems). For the last number of years much of my paid work has been in Java comsulting, where I get to pick what platform I use.

    So I haven't had a Windows machine since 1993 at this point. True, I have encountered them here and there over the years, but I've been able to avoid being assigned to a Windows machine in my home or at any place of work I've held in all that time. The trick is damn simple for the most part: be so freakishly good at what you do that people will be happy to comply with your platform requests, and let them know up from you have no interest in working with Windows. So far, it's worked every time here.

    Yaz.
    Windows Free since '93.

    1. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm a software developer

      I hope you don't mean you NEVER use Windows or a newer version than 3.1...

      You owe it to yourself to fully understand what is out there, and the development division of Microsoft has done some really cool things in the past 10 years. Not always perfect, but different and worth knowing to at least get ideas or very least know your competition.

      Even looking at the *nix market we see the classic 'taskbar' in everything from KDE to GNOME and other variants. It is kind of sad that MS was the first one with a taskbar like this, but it isn't such a bad idea, so I don't mind see others parrot it.

      I find too many experienced IT people that I interview and they are non-Windows people which is fine, but when asked what they are working on or why they like one OS, etc.

      I find that many times they have NO idea how much the industry has passed them by. I get answers like, I use XXXX because I want a real 32bit OS, or real Multi-Tasking, or I am developing this cool application idea (an idea that has been built into Window or other OSes for YEARS) and they think they are being innovative.

      Basically you can't be innovative, unless you know what else is out there.

      Getting off of Windows is great, but don't close your mind to the stuff from Redmond, they surprise many great developers sometimes, by statistics alone, it has to happen. For example at the PDC in September they shook up the way a lot of us developers view software, and even some of us are developing on other platforms, their ideas were something good to build from.

      I assume you don't mean you haven't used Windows to at least explore the competition, but in case you haven't or others in here haven't, it is worth your time...

      Nice VMWare or other tool and at least run a test version somewhere. (Hint, if you are using VMWare or another comperable tool, you can use the 180day Free version of WindowsXP and just reinstall it.)

    2. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by strider44 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even looking at the *nix market we see the classic 'taskbar' in everything from KDE to GNOME and other variants. It is kind of sad that MS was the first one with a taskbar like this, but it isn't such a bad idea, so I don't mind see others parrot it.

      You'd have a great point, that is if MS actually *was* the first one with a taskbar like this...

    3. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You'd have a great point, that is if MS actually *was* the first one with a taskbar like this...

      So don't leave us hanging, which GUI do you think had it first? Personally, I'm going with Acorn RISC OS, but would be interested if there's another contender.

    4. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by Yaztromo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You know, if your post was supposed to impress us about your professional skills, it didn't work for me. If you're really so freakishly good at what you do, you would try your hands on everything under the sun -- if not with a goal of achieving proficiency on that platform, then with the goal of figuring out what $foo platform does right so you can improve your favorite platform.

      You certainly do assume quite a lot. First off, no matter how good a developer someone is, they can't go around and fix every piece of code on the planet. That includes me. Sorry -- I also have other things to do with my life that don't involve sitting in front of a computer.

      Besides which, I'm more interested in generating new and novel research output at this point in time, than tweaking platforms. I've most recently been doing work in the realm of security, confidentiality, data communications, and data integrity for health information on portable computing devices. Along with some AI R&D on the side. None of which has required any Windows.

      The computing world is a big, big place, and doesn't just revolve around writing end-user applications or OS software, you know.

      I could be wrong, but it seems to me you've merely traded in the 'Windows is good enough' PHB attitude so decried on /. for a 'Java is good enough so the OS doesn't matter' attitude.

      I've had to write more than my share of JNI code to not spout off like that here. There are a lot of things I like about Java, but in reality these days I use it professionally purely because it is well entrenched, and it's the target environment for many of the projects I've worked on (something that I haven't necessarily had a say in). For some of my own personal projects and research, I've been working in Objective-C as of late.

      There are, however, problems where the language isn't all that important, and where the platform you do your development on (which may not be the target for execution -- ever try to write code and compile on a handheld or embedded device?) doesn't matter either. You just need to get out of the cubicle a little more often :).

      Yaz.

    5. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by Halo1 · · Score: 2, Informative
      MacOs X I find a pain to use with many different documents open in several different applications - you can switch between programs easily, but then have to use whatever scheme that program uses for switching windows (which may or may not conform to the UI guidelines).
      cmd-` always works in my experience.
      --
      Donate free food here
    6. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by tomcres · · Score: 3, Interesting
      It's funny, I'm a former OS/2 user myself. When Windows 95 came out, and OS/2 software was becoming rarer and rarer, I broke down and bought it. It was about as dreadful as Windows 3.1 was, but at least had a useful desktop. I ended up going back to OS/2 and started using Linux regularly at that point, dual-booting between Warp 4 and Slackware (thanks, OS/2 Boot Manager!).

      But, eventually, I found that a lot of the mainstream stuff just wasn't available. It took a long time to compile software on a 486 under Linux (there wasn't much binary software for Linux at the time.. all the a.out vs. ELF, Slackware vs. Red Hat... it was ugly) and OS/2 was practically dead at that point. So when I bought a new computer, I got Windows NT 4.0. Other than software that was designed for 95 that didn't like NT and having to be a little choosier with peripherals, I was happy. It was close enough to the OS/2 experience that I was comfortable, so I've been on Windows (NT) ever since.. from 4.0 to 2000 (5.0) to XP (5.1) to XP x64 (5.2).

      I'm just guessing, but I think most people's aversion to all things Microsoft stems mostly from the utter unreliability and crudness of Windows 95 and 98. Had they been NT users, I think that they'd have had a different opinion of Microsoft operating systems.

      But also, I'm not a developer. I'm more interested in the web, multimedia, and games. Microsoft Money is the one application I can't live without. I used to use Quicken on OS/2, but using MS Money for the first time was an epiphany. I even tried switching to Mac a couple of times, but Quicken is just crap compared to MS Money (for someone like me who knows jack #?@! about finance and needs something that is mistake-proof and simple and interfaces directly with my bank).

    7. Re:Living off the grid -- easier than you think. by arminw · · Score: 2, Informative

      ....you can switch between programs easily, but then have to use whatever scheme that program uses for switching windows ....

      In OSX, the Expose function allows easy switching between apps and numerous windows within them. Does MS have something like that? The taskbar gets pretty crowded fast and then it becomes hard to figure out which one is the right one.

      --
      All theory is gray
  34. Microsoft Office by rve · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, why doesn't anyone mention MS Office?

    Visio and Access for rapidly and easily designing and prototyping, powerpoint for presentations. There are other applications that can replace Word and Excel, but they don't support ythe same level of integration. Just drag and drop a table from Excel into a Word document.

    Because Office doesn't support exporting to PDF yet, you'll need CutePDF writer: http://www.cutepdf.com/

  35. Re:Wrong by LookoutforChris · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Let me follow that by saying that Pro/E has always been available on Linux, as has Solidworks. Even their latest software packages are available for Linux."

    Wow...

    First off Pro/ENGINEER was first available for Linux with the release of WildFire. That'd be version 24 for you old-schoolers. As of right now they only support RedHat on SUN or HP hardware. And that's just Pro/ENGINEER ... no Mechanica, no Intralink or Windchill versions are available for Linux. So it's completely incorrect to say that all of PTCs latest software packages are available for Linux. See www.ptc.com

    Actually Pro/ENGINEER only used to run on SGI gear back in the late 80's early 90's ... thems was teh days.

    Next up, SolidWorks has never been available for anything other than Windows and probably never will be. Microsoft and SolidWorks are joined at the hips. So it's absolutely incorrect to say that any of SolidWorks software packages are available for Linux. See www.solidworks.com

    Somehow I doubt I you've used Pro/E or SW.

  36. 46 Best-ever Freeware Utilities by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    46 Best-ever Freeware Utilities for Windows. Very good list and a good newsletter. Subscribe to the paid newsletter and get more recommendations: Extended list of 81.

    --
    Before, Saddam got Iraq oil profits & paid part to kill Iraqis. Now a few Americans share Iraq oil profits, & U.S. citizens pay to kill Iraqis. Improvement?

  37. Re:Picasa by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Informative
    Picasa lets me 'monitor folders', something iPhoto will not let me do. I hate having to 'import' pictures into iPhoto everytime I want to see my new pictures there.

    This is easy to set-up with iPhoto. Just create an Automator task that takes the files in a folder and auto-imports them into iPhoto when activated. Create a folder to dump photos into, and enable it's folder actions to call your Automator task whenever a file is added to the folder. Done.

    Non-destructive edits. I can touch, crop and do anything I wish to my pictures in Picasa and it doesn't hurt the original picture at all. I can come back later and undo everything I did. If I wish to retain my changes, I can simply export the current state of the picture. On iPhoto, the edits you do are non-undoable once you are done with the edits. Very painful for a photographer who wants to quickly try out some edits before opening up the full-fledged Photoshop.

    In the Library view, right click on the photo and select "Revert to Original". Edits in iPhoto are also non-destructive -- editing an image actually creates a new image file. The original is still present on your hard drive -- you just have to tell iPhoto to revert to the original, and you're ready to go.

    These may not solve all of your issues with iPhoto, but if you feel the need or requirement to work with it, hopefully knowing these two tricks will make it a little less annoying to you.

    Yaz.

  38. Bonzi Buddy by vzzzbx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bonzi Buddy, CoolWebSearch, anything and everything from Gator/Claria. Best of all it's all free!

  39. I'd add errorless CD ripper, DVD player, Avivo by MojoStan · · Score: 2, Informative
    That's a pretty good list. A few of you selections reminded me of some other useful related tools.
    Music: Foobar2000 0.8.3 (iTunes and dumbed down fb2k annoy me)
    Foobar2000 is a great powerful alternative to iTunes, but every new Windows user should know about Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for making errorless CD rips. The "jitter correction" in other rippers (like iTunes) is not enough!
    Video: Media Player Classic with ffdshow
    That reminded me of the important fact that Windows XP does not come with a DVD decoder by default. This is almost never a problem because DVD decoders are always bundled with retail DVD drives and PCs with DVD drives. However, Apple obviously doesn't bundle a Windows DVD decoder with their Intel Macs, so Boot Camp users need to purchase a DVD decoder (e.g. PowerDVD, WinDVD, PureVideo Decoder) or download a non-DirectShow DVD decoder/player like Media Player Classic or VLC.

    If you are using an iMac or MacBook Pro, then you might be interested in the Windows-only software that enables the ATI Radeon 1600's GPU-accelerated H.264 playback and video transcoding. For GPU-accelerated H.264, I think you need to purchase CyberLink's H.264 decoder. ATI's Avivo Video Converter is integrated into the latest Catalyst Control Center, which I'm not sure is included on Apple's Windows driver disc image.

    Does anybody know if GPU-accelerated H.264 playback and video transcoding is enabled on OS X yet?

    --
    TO START
    PRESS ANY KEY

    Where's the 'ANY' key? I see Esk, Kitarl, and Pig-Up...

  40. It's called "foobar," not "bar none" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    Subject: iTunes!

    Best app on Windows, bar none.

    The name of the app is foobar, not "bar none." But I agree, foobar is the best music player app on Windows.
  41. First app... by JohnnyBigodes · · Score: 4, Funny

    First important app: "How to right-click!" :p :p :P

  42. This is what all my friends run by Smuffe · · Score: 2, Funny

    You'll probably also need these:

    Blaster (try Symantec)
    Lovesan (not really sure, it's an old app)
    Code Red (disable all firewalls and don't apply any pathces, you'll get it for free soon enough)
    Zotbot (not sure again).

    Then again, get some firewall and virusscanners, or maybe just an Instant restore program if you want to try them out but don't really need them (works for both viruses and firewalls :).

  43. Re:I have used a PC for 15 minutes, and it sucked by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Besides, Macs have a BIOS, too.

    Au contraire. No recent macs use BIOS. And when they did, the overwhelming majority of Mac users had little need to even be aware of it, since . . . (wait for it) . . . . Macs just work.

    I switched from Windows 3.1 to Mac System 7 in the early 90s, and I've never looked back. I'm vaguegly aware of DLLs and the Registry, since I've heard so many complaints about them (at places like slashdot). The frustrating issues I had to contend with on Windows, such as IRQ conflicts, have been long since solved I assume, since I haven't heard any complaints about them in years.

    I've been able to avoid Windows since making the switch to Mac, although last fall a boss asked me to burn a CD of photos as he headed out the door. After noodling around his computer for awhile, opening the photos in various programs, it occurred to me that, just like on a Mac, a right click would bring up a contextual menu. So I right clicked on the folder of photos and was able to burn a CD. (Of course, if this had been a Mac, I would have been able to burn the CD from within iPhoto. I'm sure that this is also possible in some Windows apps, but I really didn't want to spend the time learning a Windows program that I'd never use again. Even spending the 15 minutes to figure out how to burn a CD was annoying.

    --
    It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  44. Cygwin by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cygwin is nice. One of the first things I do on a Windows box (and about the only thing I ever use IE for) is go to start, run, and type iexplore "http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe"/code to launch straight into the current setup program and get myself an xterm, a proper shell and openssh to make my workday considerably less painful. Any OSX fan that spends any time in a shell will probably miss the shell before long, Cygwin provides that in Windows. It's too bad cygwin doesn't ship a win32 KDE...not having my keybindings, having the Start and Menu keys working as advertised instead of doing something useful, lack of multiple desktops and just overall rigidness makes Explorer get in the way more than anything...

    --
    Help us build a better map!
  45. Games, games, games! by Toreo+asesino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mr Pauljoyce, firstly, it's probably not the best idea to ask /.ers which is their favourite windows apps - it's probably on par with asking a bunch of right-wing Christians what their favourite party drugs are.

    Anyway, and now to answer your question...Favourite apps for Windows have to be MS-Office for productivity, Visual Studio 2005 for development (yes, ok, I'm a Microsoft Certified Whore(tm) but I love it), but more than these....

    There's a tonne of games which will only run under Windows, and are not available on the consoles! Take WoW for instance; absolutely brilliant game, and PC only I believe. C&C Generals is another classic game. There's loads!
    Obviously, if you're not into your gaming, then I too would suggest you're not going to miss much by not using Windows.

    Hopefully, this is a little more constructive than the "use linux LOL!!1" posts I've seen by some. Each platform has got pro's and cons over the next; Windows, in my humble opinion is great for Games and development. Get involved, and welcome!

    --
    throw new NoSignatureException();
  46. Good news by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Informative

    The good news is that you'll have no problems finding software for Windows. The bad news is that much of it is crap.

    Recommendations:
    - Cygwin (Bash, SSH, GCC, and other GNU/Linux tools)
    - WinSCP (SCP client)
    - PuTTY (excellent SSH client with tons of options)
    - EmEditor (free version is a great replacement for Notepad)
    - vi (if you like vi)
    - CCleaner (cleans up temp files, browser cache, etc. for tons of programs)
    - Spybot S&D (effective antispyware)
    - Mozilla Firefox or Opera (if you don't like IE; I keep all three for testing)
    - Mozilla Thunderbird (you are using IMAP, aren't you?)
    - Microsoft Office
    - PDFCreator (make PDFs by printing)
    - iTunes (if you have an iPod)
    - K-Lite Mega Codec Pack (every codec you'll need plus Media Player Classic, Quicktime and Real alternatives, and a lot more)
    - Daemon Tools (CD/DVD drive emulator with copy protection circumvention)
    - Ethereal (for network troubleshooting)
    - Nero (CD/DVD burning)
    - RMClock (lets you control PowerNow/Cool 'n Quiet/SpeedStep)
    - EVEREST Home Edition (excellent system information tool)
    - AVG Anti-Virus (Free Edition)
    - Adobe Reader 7.0
    - Windows Desktop Search (corporate edition - without the MSN crap)

    You might also want to install some Windows games - there are plenty to choose from.

  47. Re:I missed one. by yurigoul · · Score: 3, Informative

    Since when did Opera stop making a Mac version of their browser?

    Just checked, it is still there. Clicked on the free download link at opera.com and the download of a nice mac disk image started.

  48. Re:I have used a PC for 15 minutes, and it sucked by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Funny

    You almost carried that off. But your fatal mistake: just like on a Mac, a right click would bring up a contextual menu. A real Mac bigot would digress for a paragraph to explain why more than one mouse button was unnecessary and inelegant: "Oh, you mean option-click".

  49. Re:I have used a PC for 15 minutes, and it sucked by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, no. It's control-click for contextual menus.

    And I didn't think I needed to go into the whole "Apple supports multi-button mouse" thing. I thought that it was a given that I was thinking it, even if I didn't write it. It would have distracted from the purpose of the story, which was to annoy the one-button-mouse trolls. The story is true, by the way.

    --
    It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  50. Re:Picasa by slim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Never mind the features: Picasa is touchy-feely and has what I believe Mac people call "The snappy".

    I bought a Mac Mini because I thought it might be a good idea to store my growing photo collection on a machine that belonged to me, rather than my employer. I allowed myself to believe the hype about iPhoto, was curious about OSX so I chose the Mac.

    With 1GB RAM, iPhoto 5 takes unacceptably long to start up, stutters while scrolling through the library, freezes for seconds at a time, and generally gets in the way of doing what you want to do. It does work in the foreground (so you have to wait) that should happen in the background ("Saving changes..."). Verbs are frequently where I least expect them to be. The import process is messed up (it expects you to name the "roll" before showing you what's on it. I can't find a way to rename the roll afterwards).

    It's possible iPhoto 6 is an improvement, but I'm damned if I'm paying $79 to find out.

    On my work Windows laptop, with half the RAM and half the CPU speed of the Mac, Picasa is speedy and fluid. Verbs are where I expect to find them; nothing is fiddly and everything makes sense.

    On the bright side, the Mac runs Firefox acceptably, and does a nice job of running Azureus...

    To wrench us back onto topic: is it worth dual booting your Mac just to run Picasa? Possibly not -- rebooting is a pain in the arse. But I would seriously recommend any Mac zealot spend an hour or so playing with Picasa, just to remind themselves that it *is* possible that someone other than Apple can do usability. If there was an music library that used the Picasa approach to UI -- "Tucasa"? -- I'd drop iTunes in a heartbeat.

  51. In other words... by PinkyDead · · Score: 2, Funny

    I work for the RIAA and I'm trying to patent someone elses method that uses Intelligent Design to prove that Linux sucks. What software should I install on my Windows PC to do this?

    Did I mention that I fully support the merging of the European Union and the United Nations as a division of ICANN?

    ~=@:O

    --
    Genesis 1:32 And God typed :wq!
  52. Funny you should mention... by Animaether · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...these specific cases, as Shake was available on Windows NT - until Apple bought it, killed the Windows version, and drove the cost of the Linux version up. Pro/Logic? Same type of story.

    Embrace, extend, destroy - sound like another company we know?

    Not quite equating Apple with Microsoft here, but there's certain trais the companies share.

  53. Lacerte by jaypaulw · · Score: 2, Informative

    if you are a CPA for individuals who make less than 2mm per year this software is indispensable - you wont find an equivalent on any other platform.

  54. Re:I have used a PC for 15 minutes, and it sucked by Weedlekin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are confusing the BIOS with the boot loader. In IBM PCs and clones thereof, the BIOS and boot-loader are indeed in ROM, but that comes from the fact that the original IBM ROMs also contained a BASIC interpreter and routines to load and store data from audio casettes (these were carried on as far as the PS/2 line, even though they were completely obsolete by then). CP/M computers on the other hand had only a boot-loader in ROM, and loaded their BIOS as software (i.e. part of the operating system), as did most mainframes and minicomputers, many of which had no ROMs at all, but required their boot sequences to be entered manually via a panel of switches.

    So while BIOS == boot loader on IBM PC clones, this is not necessarily the case for computers in general.

    --
    I'm not going to change your sheets again, Mr. Hastings.
  55. music-related windows applications by roedelius · · Score: 2, Informative

    P2P: Soulseek
    Real-time Audio Synthesis: Audiomulch
    Modular Synthesis: SynthEdit

  56. Based on the opinions of those who know by JoeCommodore · · Score: 3, Funny
    I'll base these on what other people send documents to us and say we *should* have these in order to do business.

    Internet Explorer - You just cant use the important parts of the internet without it (at least that's what many of the webmasters of sites that refuse to be more compatible say.

    Microsoft Outlook - So you can open all those winmail.dat files people send you.

    Microsoft Excel for Windows - Exspecially for those sheets with macros using active-x components, they insist thier stuff just would just suck without those gems.

    Microsoft Publisher - At work we regularly get .pub documents with the creators getting indignant when we say we can't open it. Of course depending on the sender, they expect you to have the version of publisher THEY have, not always particularly the latest version.

    Microsot Access - Here it is the panacea of all data needs, just about every agency with accidental techies have islads of productivityware using access (ignoring the fact there is no easy way to integrate all these these different islands)

    Webshots - just about every Windows workstation I see in or office runs Webshots, must be an essential utlity.

    The thing that makes smiley icons and patterned backgrounds in Outlook Second to webshots are the outlook emails with all the HTML and embedded gifs, which also advertise the utility that will turn your oulook browser into a similar productive environment.

    Turbo Tax, Tax Cut or Quicken Taxes - apparently we can't do our home taxes without them

    Besides more vertical market "canned applications" for accounting and such that's about it.

    --
    "Enjoy what you're doing! If it becomes drudgery, you're doing it wrong!" - Jim Butterfield
    1. Re:Based on the opinions of those who know by nsayer · · Score: 2, Funny
      Turbo Tax

      Uh... I just finished doing our taxes with the Mac version of Turbo Tax. Works great.

  57. Here's a few. by amper · · Score: 2, Informative

    I onestly can't believe that after nearly seven hundred comments on this topic, there nothing rated 4 or above that actually addresses the question. Sure, there's lot's of snide comments about the inferiority of Windows, but that's a given. What's not a given is what the questioner was originally asking. So, here's a few of the applications that I personally find indispensible for what I do..and BTW, I'm a Mac guy, an OpenBSD guy, and a Linux guy, much more than I'm a Windows guy.

    1. Visio. The day Microsoft bought Visio, I was *so* pissed off, because I knew that there was then absolutely no chance that Visio would ever be released for Macs. Yes, there are some similar programs on the Mac side (OmniGraffle, ConceptDraw), but none of them can hold a candle to Visio Professional.

    2. Duncan Munro's PSU Designer II and Tone Stack Calculator. Two essential tools for designing electron tube amplifiers that just don't exist on the Mac. Yes, a competent EE could probably figure it out in some horrible version of EDA software on a Mac, but all the Mac EDA packages I've seen are awful. As soon as I free up another machine, I'll try to install gEDA to see if that's any better (Linux or Fink/Mac OS X).

    3. A whole host of software for my Amateur Radio hobby. Yes, there's some stuff out there for the Mac, but the majority of it runs on Windows. Another thing that pisses me off. This also holds true for a vast range of command and control products.

    4. Ross-Tech's VAG-COM software to replace Volkswagen's scan tools. Uwe simply has no interest in porting, not even to Windows CE. Automotive scan tools are another area where all the software I've ever seen runs pretty much only on Windows, with a very few on Palm or WinCE.

    5. TrueAudio's WinSpeakerz. This was originally a Mac program (MacSpeakerz), but development on the Windows side has far outstripped the Mac product. Great for designing loudspeaker systems. Most of the packages for this type of work are Windows-only.

    6. Games? I couldn't care less about games, so this is really a non-issue for me.

    7. VNC. VNC simply works a thousands times better on Windows (or Linux) than it does on the Mac. ...and that's just off the top of my head. I hope Apple sticks with Boot Camp, and Microsoft updates Virtual PC. I'll happily buy two versions of Windows so that I can have seamless integration of Windows with my Macintosh hardware (one for dual boot for extended usage, and one for virtualization for quicky things), but I have a feeling that Apple will eventually pull the project.

  58. don't you mean by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 2, Funny
    I think you spelled "Vim" wrong. =P

    --
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
  59. Re:I have used a PC for 15 minutes, and it sucked by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    No recent macs use BIOS.

    Of course not. Between the time you power up a Mac and the time the OS loads, the computer runs on magic !

    --
    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  60. Re:I have used a PC for 15 minutes, and it sucked by pclminion · · Score: 2

    It's more elegant to have to press two buttons on two different input devices simultaneously, to activate a single function? I love my Mac but you'll take my right mouse button over my dead body.

  61. Homie does right-click... by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mac OS X has been able to use the right mouse button since the beginning. Mac OS 9 and below sees both buttons of a two button mouse as the uni-button. This was useful for the times that a button would stop functioning on a mouse. Not so useful when you wanted to do contextual menu stuff. But how long has it been since Mac OS X started being useful and you stopped booting into Mac OS 9? At least since Jagwire.

    Yeah, the trackpad on a Mac laptop only has a single button. Boo hoo hoo. You just whip out Mr. 2-button mouse/trackball and you are good to go. The Logitech Marble Mouse has been my standby for years and years and years, since they were beige instead of that smoky grey metallic color.

    Next Windows whine...I've got a nice wheel of Gouda here that will enhance that vintage whine of yours.

    --
    Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
  62. painlessly dip into the windows world by planetfinder · · Score: 2, Funny

    Uproariously funny concept.