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EFF Gets Animated About DRM with The Corruptibles

Lurker McLurker writes "An animation from the EFF shows DRM technology as a group of supervillans who aim to invade your home, interfere with your devices and stop you from using your digital media the way you want to, even if it is legitimate. Doesn't say anything about the subject most of us wouldn't know, but a great link to send to your friends as an introduction to the issue."

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  1. Everyone understands cartoons by Foktip · · Score: 2, Funny

    THATS AWESOME! Now i can show little kids why theyre screwed in the future.

  2. Analog Hole by Feneric · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think I personally would have visualized the character of "Analog Hole" as a lot older... certainly not a kid.

    1. Re:Analog Hole by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Every portable mp3 player has a headphone jack by nature.

      . . . consumer electronics . . .

      The ultimate tool in the war, stop being a consumer. Learn to make your own . . .including music and video. Fill the world with "hole."

      KFG

    2. Re:Analog Hole by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, that part didn't really deal with the "analog hole" at all. She was trying to copy a short clip from a DVD - aka "fair use", but on a computer you're normally dealing with digital copies. Nevermind that audio/broadcast flag are anti-consumer, analog hole is pro-consumer and something they are trying to eliminate. Then again it's a teaser, not trying to be technically accurate.

      Anyway, the concept of analog "hole" only makes sense in the context of trying to stop digital copies. If we say A is an analog copy and D is digital, we started out with:
      AAAAAAAAAAAAA = crap

      Then we got CDs, but there was noone who had CD burners at the time:
      DAAAAAAAAAAAA = crap

      Nobody gave a damn that there was an "analog hole", I don't think the concept even existed. Then everybody and their mother got computers and CD burners, and suddenly you got all-digital copies:
      DDDDDDDDDDDDD = perfect

      Then they started inventing DRM, and got that protected through the DMCA. That was supposed to stop digital copying, with varying degrees of success. However, in those cases where they succeeded you still had the analog hole:
      DADDDDDDDDDDD = near perfect

      So the concept of an "analog hole" is very young, because it makes absolutely no sense without digital copies and DRM.

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    3. Re:Analog Hole by r3m0t · · Score: 2, Funny

      "This is why those selling the concept of DRM to media companies are selling snake oil. Until experiencing media requires an implant, an acceptable quality copy can always be made, stripped of all DRM."

      That is where you are wrong. My new supa-protect(TM) system (with built-in speakers) can be built-in to all media devices. Then the headphone and line-out ports are removed and the whole thing is sealed.

      The supa-protect system adds noise signals to all output from your music player. Any recordings of this music will inevitably include this unbearable noise.

      If anybody attempts to open the device, it explodes.

      What do you think?

    4. Re:Analog Hole by dangitman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, it is possible to make very good analog copies. Just as it is possible to make shitty digitally-ripped MP3s. I'd much prefer a good high-end tape recording of a nicely-mastered vinyl record, than a shitty digital rip of a poorly mastered CD. And CDs are getting increasingly poor mastering and engineering applied to them. Just because something is digital doesn't mean it sounds good.

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    5. Re:Analog Hole by uid7306m · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I see trouble for science, too. Lots of science gets done with computer electronics:
      speech research and psychology research is done 100% with consumer audio and video cards.
      Lots of other fields use a mix of consumer andio/video and specialized analog to digital
      converter cards. They'll all get hurt.

      Why? Because you need to be able to trust your data and understand it.
      Science is hard enough if your tools are trustworthy. If your tools start doing
      unknown processing on your signals, you're in deep hot water (or something smellier).
      At best, you'd have $10k of grant money to get the VEIL spec and (hopefully)
      someone who can tell you if it is important. More likely, you'd waste time
      testing your I/O devices, and then hope (with fingers crossed) that they'll
      work in your real experiment.

      It's a mess. Many people will pay for this in terms of increased costs,
      greater complexity, mysterious failures and (in my case) midnight worries
      that VEIL will somehow screw up my experiments. And all for what?
      Movies, I suppose. But somehow, I suspect that we'd still have movies to
      watch even if piracy abounded.

    6. Re:Analog Hole by dosius · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.

      -uso.

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  3. Great Introduction to the Perils of DRM by Jazzer_Techie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think this is a nice piece of work from the EFF. There are plenty of people who would be more concerned about DRM if they understood its potentials. I know I've talked with my father (who is very low tech) about DRM, and he certainly was legitimately concerned about what I told him. I've made backups of some of his CDs for him, and he likes knowing that he can keep the originals safe. We talked about how breaking DeCSS to make a legitimate backup copy of a DVD is illegal under the DMCA, and he thinks something like that is unreasonable. Right now, non-tech people just aren't running into deep issues of DRM. The most DRM they've probably run into is iTMS FairPlay, and thanks to Apple's 'generous' terms, they rarely, if ever, run into something they can't do. I think more people would be concerned about DRM if they understood what it's potential consequences are, and I think this animation does a good job of doing that.

    1. Re:Great Introduction to the Perils of DRM by babbling · · Score: 5, Interesting

      One problem I run into when trying to explain DRM to people is that they think I'm mistaken or don't believe me. They think they will always be able to record TV shows, and that nothing can stop them from doing so. They think that they will always be able to find a way to break encryption and use music they've purchased however they like.

    2. Re:Great Introduction to the Perils of DRM by martinultima · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd have to agree – that was one of the most well thought-out animations I've ever seen, even compared to the ones that weren't propaganda against digital rights management. Definitely great attention to detail, too (at least with all the parody titles) – hopefully this will make people realize that this actually will affect them, and isn't just something that super-techies and/or Slashdot readers don't like because it doesn't work on Linux. Disclaimer, I'm a super-techie and a Slashdot reader who does the kind of thing they want to ban all the time on Linux...

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    3. Re:Great Introduction to the Perils of DRM by Maelwryth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      IMHO there would be a lot more public outcry if the laws weren't enforced selectively. Currently the method is to prosecute a small number of people to put the "Fear of God" into the rest. Imagine the outcry if all the people breaking the law were sued. I could see quite a few things becoming legal very quickly (or the collapse of the court system)
      Personally, I found the animation to be a little too vague and in the future. I can imagine people watching it and saying, "Oh. that will never happen to me."

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    4. Re:Great Introduction to the Perils of DRM by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The video is very cool and well done. But along the same lines as what you were saying, the video seems to assume that people understand copyright law, including fair use, and then goes on to explain how DRM can prevent you from doing things that are perfectly legal. The thing is, most people don't understand copyright law, and have never heard of fair use. The video uses the example of a kid trying to put a video snippet in her electronic school report. Although that clearly falls within fair use, I think most people, who don't know about fair use, would either think (a) the kid should be stopped from doing it, because it's illegal, or (b) it's illegal, but the law is stupid, so it's ok for the kid to break it. Same thing on the personal use exception, which would be relevant for the DVR example. I was unclear myself on the example of the mix CD -- is the EFF saying it's legal under personal use? Would it depend on whether the woman is his wife, who lives in the same house with him, or his girlfriend, who doesn't?

      They think that they will always be able to find a way to break encryption and use music they've purchased however they like
      I've heard a lot of speculation about how the analog hole could be plugged, for example, but so far I haven't seen it happen. It seems likely to me that any analog copy-protection system could be worked around by a sufficiently sophisticated digital or analog filtering system. Then the question is whether the media industry can make the relevant filtering software or hardware illegal. If it's as simple as a band-reject filter, then it doesn't seem likely.

  4. progress stops at the cost of capitalism by yagu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wasn't a free market and capitalism supposed to drive innovation and technology? Oh wait, yeah, Microsoft, never mind.

    Really, reading some of these proposed laws the clear message from the RIAA/MPAA is, "To ensure our continued hand-in-the-cookie-jar obscene money making machine, we demand the government enact protective legislation." Guess what? They're "gettin' 'er done"! Innovative ideas and extensions and forks of cool, useful, for-the-betterment-of-man technology fall by the wayside by fiat, at the entertainment industry's prompt.

    Again, ignoring the thesis for the moment that increased use of all of these digital technologies actually serve the entertainment industry spurring new growth in unexpected demographics, the new and improved technology traditionally has been the keystone of other new technologies. Often, as mentioned in a recent slashdot article, new directions are discovered accidentally. Squelch digital devices and you squelch potential new and rich fields of devices.

    The RIAA and MPAA, what a bunch of fucktards.

    1. Re:progress stops at the cost of capitalism by dcollins · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wasn't a free market and capitalism supposed to drive innovation and technology?

      I think that's old-school thinking. It's what I heard when I was growing up, but I haven't heard industry spokespeople argue that in many years.

      Nowadays the reasoning seems to be that "free market" indicates an intrinsic right to do whatever you can to make money, period, good or bad. They don't even bother with a how-it-helps-society argument anymore. As a citizen, you're supposed to just suck it down and shut up.

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    2. Re:progress stops at the cost of capitalism by Kaimelar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a citizen, you're supposed to just suck it down and shut up.

      Corporations don't see people as "citizens" anymore. We're not even their customers -- we're consumers. Language always gives one away.

    3. Re:progress stops at the cost of capitalism by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Wasn't a free market and capitalism supposed to drive innovation and technology? Oh wait, yeah, Microsoft, never mind

      How many american households owned a computer before MSDOS and Windows? How many after?

      The commodity PC running Windows has had an extraordinary impact on technology.

      The buyer at entry level expects to see networking, a 3 GHz CPU, DX9 level graphics, multichannel HD audio, 100 GB of hard disk storage, and read-write optical drives at $500 or less.

      In system bundle complete with monitor, ink-jet color printing, and free home delivery.

    4. Re:progress stops at the cost of capitalism by asuffield · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Corporations don't see people as "citizens" anymore. We're not even their customers -- we're consumers. Language always gives one away.

      This is very true. It's always a good idea to see what a corporation calls you.

      If you are a client, then they think of you as an integral part of the process. You are involved in the development of whatever they are selling to you, and it is built around your needs. Outsourcing companies, good hotels, and lap dancers think like this.

      If you are a customer, then they think of you as an individual who makes a take-it-or-leave-it decision about their product. They will attempt to make as many people as possible want to take it, but won't worry too much about missing a few around the edges. Still, they need to keep you happy and won't do something that's bad for you without a really good reason. The good ISPs and expensive high street stores think like this.

      If you are a consumer, then they think of you as tied up, prone, on the floor, while they defecate their products onto you and then send you an invoice. It doesn't matter what you think, you don't get to make a choice. The big media companies think like this. So do the telephone carriers, and most other monopolies.

  5. Excellent! by elgee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That is excellent and I hope it gets widespread exposure.

    Now what I would really like to see is it broadcast on the major tv channels. Let me know if hell is freezing over.

  6. Subtitles by Rekolitus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think this is a good idea, but I really wish more people would put subtitles on their flash videos, the EFF no exception.

    Seriously, how hard would it be to spend some 10 minutes adding subtitles?

    I do like the idea, though.

    1. Re:Subtitles by pjbgravely · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think this is a good idea, but I really wish more people would put subtitles on their flash videos

      Do you mean like this?
      Sorry I couldn't find a flash version in a hurry.

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  7. Don't forget... by spiritraveller · · Score: 4, Informative

    The bad guys can make cartoons too.

    1. Re:Don't forget... by spiritraveller · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's kind of the whole point of this debate. Idiots like the EFF paint DRM as some kind of evil monster, when the truth is that it's just an effort on the part of the people who own things and want to be able to sell them without having them stolen to find a technological solution to what's clearly a societal problem.

      The problem with DRM as a technical solution is that it uses my computer against me. My computer works for me. It doesn't work for anyone else without my permission... and that's why I don't use DRM.

      DRM isn't "evil" until people no longer have the choice of refusing it.

      That is why the EFF's campaign is important. It educates people about it, so that the market will make the right decision before DRM becomes an inescapable de facto standard.

    2. Re:Don't forget... by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      when the truth is that it's just an effort on the part of the people who own things and want to be able to sell them without having them stolen

      The problem is that these people want to sell the things they own and still own them afterwards.

  8. What good is it... by a_greer2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if the only people who see this are already in agreement with the EFF on this one?

    1. Re:What good is it... by hasbeard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe the idea is to put something out there so that people can show it to other people or give them a link to it...

    2. Re:What good is it... by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      if the only people who see this are already in agreement with the EFF on this one?

      Post the link on your blog. Email it to your family members. Print the link on business cards and hadn it out to strangers on the street.

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  9. Really cool cartoon! by Per+Wigren · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What would be REALLY cool is if it can be shown on the major TV channels (during commercial breaks) every once in a while... How much money would be needed for that?

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    1. Re:Really cool cartoon! by crush · · Score: 3, Informative

      That would be nice, but if the experience of Adbusters is anything to go by, you won't be able to buy the spot. Why? Because TV/cable channels are worried about alienating their major customers (that's not you and me, that's the big corporations that are pushing for DRM and their affiliates and partners that buy the majority of advertising air time) and are anyway owned by some of the major forces pushing for DRM.

  10. If only they could get it shown in cinemas by Zane+Hopkins · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just before the warning about how piracy is putting the movie industry out of work.

  11. Many people just dont get it! by rehashed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have shown this clip to a few colleagues, and they just dont understand how these things effect them.

    Talking about HDTV, mixing down from Digital Radio, and Digitizing commercial products for school projects is not the way to appeal to the mass consumer market.

    Recording TV shows and making a favorites CD out of your music collection are more accessble principles to the mass market, and these are what should be highlighted.

  12. I'll say this very slowly... by Kihaji · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DRM is not evil. DRM is not wrong. Improper application and bad laws are.

    Fight the laws and bad applications of DRM, not DRM itself.

    1. Re:I'll say this very slowly... by Kihaji · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But isn't almost every use of DRM in a work distributed to the public a "bad application"?
      Almost every isn't every. Document dissemination by governments/companies where you want to absolutely verify that either they sent it to you, or you are the only one who can manipulate/read it are one case where well implemented DRM would be beneficial. Or, any place that the artist(not the publisher) wants to protect their work. Companies internal documents, to aid in ensuring that they don't get "leaked".

      DRM will not fix all the problems in the above senarios, but it would be helpful as a piece of the overall solution.

      The same thing going on here is what happened with research into nuclear energy. Nuclear bombs == bad(bad application), nuclear power plants == good(well, psuedo good now, all good when fusion gets worked out)

    2. Re:I'll say this very slowly... by tddoog · · Score: 2, Informative
      DRM is only referenced in the summary. The cartoon does not say that DRM is bad. It notes the aspects of the PERFORM law that infringe on fair use rights and how they can be used against consumers. What the EFF is trying to do is make sure that (more) laws aren't made that take rights aways from the unsuspecting public.

      I sure as hell wish the EFF was around during all those stupidass copyright extensions.

    3. Re:I'll say this very slowly... by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Preventing someone else from reading something the government sent me without *my* permission would be fine. The government, preventing *ME* from showing someone else what the government sent me, *IS* abuse of power. If the govt sends me an illegal threat, I have *every* right to show that to my lawyer, the press, or whoever I want.

      DRM can never be open, becuase if it were, it would be defeatable.

      DRM isnt about protecting rights, its about taking yours away so that big media can prevent you from moving from one platform to another without having to pay them again each time.

      'Registering' a media player so that it can track what you listen to and when smacks of invasion of privacy.

      Big media would love digital downloads to take off in a form they can keep a tight fist on, if only so that they can start phasing CD's out or start charging more for them, since in their current form (as long as you don't run MS OS's that ignore the audio CD part and run the DRM programs on the data part) they don't trample on fair use rights such as the ability to make backups and to media and format shift.

    4. Re:I'll say this very slowly... by pla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Document dissemination by governments/companies where you want to absolutely verify that either they sent it to you

      That doesn't take DRM, it just takes a digital signature


      or you are the only one who can manipulate/read it are one case where well implemented DRM would be beneficial.

      ...Until you need to show that document in court to prove your innocense in some matter, but thanks to the chip in your head, no one but you can see it. But that couldn't happen, because of course we'd always let the government have master decryption keys, and the government would never engage in any wrongdoing of a nature where they might block the decryption of politically damaging evidence... Right?


      Or, any place that the artist(not the publisher) wants to protect their work.

      Protect it from what? You've just described one of the biggest problems with DRM, not a good reason for it. Even ignoring our fair use "rights", how will you feel when you go to show your grandkids your favorite (but obscure) childhood book, only to find it no longer in print, and the only copy you have uses your own retinal static (encoded at the time of purchase) as the decryption key? Does that "protect" the artist, or just condemn him to historical oblivion?


      Companies internal documents, to aid in ensuring that they don't get "leaked".

      Yeah, real pity we plebes learned about the NSA spying on us; about Enron and Worldcom, about Israel's nuclear program (which, incidentally, broke international law no less than Iran's); And let's not forget the recently unmasked "Deep Throat", who ruined the career of a nice friendly honest guy like Nixon.


      DRM will not fix all the problems in the above senarios

      Yes, actually, it can - The problem here comes from those scenarios having a far more obvious dark side than a bright side.



      I don't think you work as an industry shill, because you sound sincere. But you need to realize that every application of DRM, even the ones you might contextually call "good", can and will come back to bite us.

  13. Re:Nice link by vingt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It didn't look like something that'll engage the attention of anyone that matters. By that, I mean that it isn't a particularly well-done, entertaining cartoon sequence that also raises questions or drives a call to action. It's boring, the characters are uninteresting, the "story" is only the message. No wordplay, no good characterisation, no hook. The items that are destroyed are so generic and undetailed that they carry no identity, conveying no sense of loss when destroyed. I don't come away from it feeling that anything personal and valuable is under threat. So it remains a little cartoon sequence, easily forgotten. It certainly won't lead anyone not already fired up to go learn more, write a congresscritter, etc.

    Outside of the geek universe, this is worthless. It's the difference between the MPAA, RIAA & other lobbies and the "good guys". The bad guys know their marketing - they successfully sell their policies to those who can mandate them. The good guys are really ineffective at selling resistance to anyone that could be heard - including "the masses".

      Perhaps this would have gotten some attention if it was done as high-def, burned to Blu-Ray, and handed out at the locations where the Samsung player is launching this weekend?

  14. Re:What DRM needs... by vertinox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MS to be fair seem to have made reasonable efforts to unify DRM with it's 'plays for sure' thingy (although I've no experience on how restrictive it actually is)

    And if I have a Mac or Linux box?

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  15. Re:To One Side by crhylove · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now see, I had mod points today, and unfortunately there isn't a mod "wrong", otherwise I'd have used it right away.

    DRM IS WRONG. In any form ever for anything. It stifles the advance of human progress, be it technologically, in the arts, or even politically. Advocating DRM ever for anything is like advocating AIDS ever for anything. Sure occasionally some real fucktard like Dick Cheney might get AIDS and that would be great. However, AIDS itself still sucks, and I'd advocate taking him out another way.

    Specifically in this case prison time for purjury and election rigging until his pace maker gives out. Over all AIDS is still bad. Just like DRM.

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  16. To complete the collection by Bromskloss · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...combine with similar movies about software patents and trusted computing.

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  17. Re:To One Side by tddoog · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I watched the cartoon and it doesn't say anything about DRM. It talks specifically about the law being pushed through congress that infringes on fair use rights.

    The real problem is that it is almost impossible to constrain piracy while not infringing on fair use. These same types of things were brought up with the advent of VCRs and there has been no companies that have gone bankrupt (to my knowledge) because of VCRs. In my opinion, DRM is not necessary, and companies could make even more profit without it if they gave the consumers more options to get what they want, how they want it. Take a tip from Burger King, "Your way, right away."

  18. Don't forget to Digg The Corruptibles too by saskboy · · Score: 2, Informative
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  19. Re:To One Side by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    DRM to constrain piracy = Good

    Well DRM does not constrain piracy. It only hurts the

    Zip. Nadda. Not one bit.

    If a pirate wants to copy something or get a copy of something, he already has the tools to bypass whatever DRM you throw at him. Those who end up being hurt all the time is Joe Six packs who buy a copy and then the company that sold him the media goes bankrupt or his drm copy goes bad and he couldn't make fair use backups of it.

    The "truth" about DRM is to make people buy media twice when they already own a licence for it.

    And guess what happens to DRM when the copyright expires in 100 years from now? You still have DRM and may heaven help you if you are a historian trying to research early 21st century history and can't seem to find tools to read archaic DRM schemes (although I'll give our descendants the benefit of the doubt with computer skills by 2100.)

    Not to mention this media is supposed to go into public domain once the DRM expires... But DRM is cheating the spirit of copyright law by making this impossible.

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  20. Re:Nice link - IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH by evanism · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its not really too abstract, as it reflects how these DRM people see themselves.... somehow fighting villainy in all its forms, but not realising that they themselves are corrupt due to the legal violence they commit against others.

    Given their druthers, these people would have your brain or body micro-chipped, and if you believe otherwise, many here would think you are not playing with the full deck.

    Decent copyright, and decent IP is understandable and even desirable, but when these SOB's enter every part of every transaction and sanction what I can, or cannot see, and monitor my every trivial activity - I keep hearing the soft bell of a Certain Story.... 1984... O'Brien: "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever."

    Its a disturbing read, and for who're BRAVE enough to download (free from Australia) it, you may see the very similarities in the book and what DRM is.... the ability to "re-write history" the ability to make un-people or un-events (revoke DRM to your demographic/country/voting area).....

    This is not a political issue, but a human freedom. Its a form of pseudo fascism, as in 1984... the owners of the content will be The Ministry Of Truth.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

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  21. Re:Nice link by script_daddy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It didn't look like something that'll engage the attention of anyone that matters. By that, I mean that it isn't a particularly well-done, entertaining cartoon sequence that also raises questions or drives a call to action. It's boring, the characters are uninteresting, the "story" is only the message.

    I tend to agree. Simplified, hyperbolic, and in the end, unengaging. I think the talk Cory Doctrow gave to the Microsoft Research Group about DRM is a much better way to introduce friends and relatives to the issues at hand. Of course, it requires a slightly longer attention span than what's required from the animation linked to in TFA, but I find that I often underestimate my non-tech friends ability to absorb information. Especially when it comes to issues that very much concerns them. Excerpt:

    Here's what I'm here to convince you of:

    1. That DRM systems don't work
    2. That DRM systems are bad for society
    3. That DRM systems are bad for business
    4. That DRM systems are bad for artists
    5. That DRM is a bad business-move for MSFT

    And he does just that..

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  22. Re:That's not an animation! by Phil+John · · Score: 3, Informative

    Second link under the "Watch" title is an XVid MPEG4 file, XVid being an open source video codec.

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  23. I don't like it by Godji · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As much as I love the EFF and everything they do (I donate every month), I don't like the movie on its purely presentational qualities.

    1. It presents too many things too fast. Everything happends too fast. I showed it to someone unfamiliar with the issue, and who had only vaguely heard some of the terms used (analog hole, fair use, and the like). Her reaction was in the lines of "Huh? What the...? Can you play that again?"

    2. It uses a foolishly cartoonish "superhero" style. When I see those overly comic-style "superhero" images with sharp lines, simple colors, and dumb logos on their chests, I find them stupid. They look stupid. This gives the whole video a comic feel, taking away any seriousness it might have wanted to imply. It fails to shock the unsuspecting viewer with what should be a shocking revelation. Don't get me wrong; the problem is not any crude drawing, but the adherence to the "comic superhero" style. Even the voice-over sticks to it...

    3. It doesn't explain anything. What's going on? This is the most difficult one to get right, but a video has to at least try to explain part of the issue. You could say it only tries to turn your attention to the issue, but it doesn't... the video, as it is, requires one to do some serious background reading. How many people, who have never bothered with the issue before, are going to just stop what they were doing and start reading about DRM?

    Number 2 is the biggest flaw in my opinion. Most people would oppose DRM if they knew about it, but if I send the link to anyone who's even a little sceptic about the importance of opposing DRM and the magnitude of its danger, that person would laugh at me. One already did, saying "What the hell is this bullshit?". The question was about the cartoonish guys, not the issue presented. I love the idea though, and hope they will come up with something better next time.

  24. Re:Nice link by dnoyeb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't agree that the bad guys are so good and the good guys suck as you seem to characterize. Your are overreacting.

    The cartoon was uninspired and not worth forwarding to anyone I know, I agree.

    How do you let someone know that there is a new law that will let someone walk in your front door and change your television channel? its very hard to convince anyone of that because its so preposterous. People will think you are just exaggerating. The cartoon does not seem to understand that.

  25. Re:Nice link - IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH by arminw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ......The fact is, not all DRM is bad,......

    In fact DRM is wonderful, great and there should be more of it. What is bad is that the makers of DRM, with the DMCA, have gotten the law on their side in cat and mouse game of breaking all DRM. Let Sony and whoever wants to come up with the most draconian DRM they can pay someone to invent, but then allow someone even more clever come up with and legally distribute tools to break the encryptions.

    All content creators have to realize that the easier it has become to copy their work, the more money they have made in the long run. Starting with the piano rolls, which were really early digital copies, through the VCRs, easier copying has always meant more money for artists and all their hangers on. Binary bits are inherently copyable. Does anyone really believe that Apple would sell fewer iPods and there would be fewer music downloads from iTunes if Apple simply dropped the DRM?

    Trying to prevent, by law, digital copying, is like trying to prevent the tide from coming in. Up until now, content makers have always figured out how to use the new, better copying technology available to the public to make more money than ever. I predict that in 20 to 30 years, DRM will be regarded in the same way as we today regard prohibition laws enacted in the early 1900s. These laws back then even rose to the level of a CONSTITUTIONAL amendment, not just a plain dumb law, such as the DMCA.

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  26. Re:Nice link - IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH by LordNightwalker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If anti-piracy groups released a video portraying pirates as supervillians who invade your home and take your money and never give it back, we'd all be making fun of it.

    And in turn, it's the anti-piracy groups' good right to be making fun of this. I don't see the problem. Besides, don't tell me you've forgotten all those anti-piracy educational messages and videos depicting copyright infringers as the worst scum of the earth, or the ones suggesting what happens to your analog hole in prison once their lawyers get to you?

    customers simply won't buy it and will choose a different product

    That's assuming:

    • Joe Average Customer is actually aware of the effects DRM will have on his ability to do things he now takes for granted.
    • There will in fact be other products to choose from. Since the entertainment industry is lobbying hard to make DRM mandatory, I wouldn't count on it.
    And since DRM is tightly coupled to all the great new stuff like digital radio, HDTV, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, next-gen OS'es etc... one can't avoid buying DRM if he wants to keep up with the latest tech. Of course, one could keep on using his current stuff, but that's assuming his current stuff will keep working once the new tech rolls out. And guess what? Once the new tech is in place, the old tech will be outphased, so that in say 5 years your current TV set won't be able to pick up anything anymore because everything is either digital or HD. And then of course, there's the issue of every piece of electronics wearing out and breaking down after a while.

    Rights aren't being violated

    Except our fair-use rights. Or don't you agree that those are in fact rights?

    it's just another product on the market place to reject or accept

    The three "evils" depicted in the cartoon are:

    • The audio flag
    • The broadcast flag
    • Lawfully plugging the analog hole
    The entertainment industry is lobbying to get all three of those mandatory by law, thus eliminating any kind of competing technology. They do not plan to introduce "just another product on the market place to reject or accept"; they're aiming at making this product the only product available on the market place (at least legally). There is no "reject or accept", there will only be "obey and consume".

    Now, tell me again how this, in your point of view, is not a bad thing?

    I agree though; the cartoon sucks, like most "edutainment" pieces. The script is so lame and hyperbolic that it fails to captivate anyone's interest.

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  27. Re:To One Side by Eideewt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's more like buying a product that stops working when you use it in an unapproved manner. Like a screwdriver that you can't pry open a can of paint with, a hammer that pounds nails but not chisels, a mattress you can't take the tags off of, or scissors that cut cloth but not paper. Not because of technical limitations, but because the manufacturers think it might possibly hurt their business.