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Nintendo's Next-Gen Arsenal

Much of the coverage of the next-gen skirmish so far has focused on Sony and Microsoft. The already-impressive Xbox Live vs. the PS3. Just the same, for the first time in many years Nintendo is definitely in the running for top spot. About.com has a piece looking at what the big N is bringing to the next-gen party this November. From the article: "While Nintendo is trend setting with controllers like the Wiimote and, to a lesser extent, the nunchaku dongle, other companies will be following along. Nintendo's game plan from the genesis of the Wii has been touch and gamer-friendly games. They see the future of gaming in the Wiimote. Everyone else, at this point, seems to be just catching up."

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  1. about.com by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone else get the funny feeling that about.com has recently struck a deal with slashdot for page impressions?

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    2. Re:about.com by exclusive_lock · · Score: 2, Funny

      Quick! If they haven't already, let's file a patent: "Obnoxious technique to fragment short articles to improve advertising hits".
      It would match perfectly the other pending patent I have: "Method. to. create. slogans. for. advertising. campaigns. with. periods."

      Truly original!

    3. Re:about.com by hexix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. There is absolutely no new information here. Everything is the same old crap that we've known since E3, written up in the same old style.

      This is the kind of crappy article that I expect on digg. I thought having editors on slashdot prevented this kind of non-news from being posted.

      Oh well, I guess it's just a slow news day.

  2. Lets get this over with by DeadMilkman · · Score: 4, Funny

    *OMG* another "All hail Nintendo" brought to you by Zonk!

    *OMG* Who wants to play with their wii?

    *OMG* Ponies!, Nintendo iz 4 kidz!
    (I want blood, boobs, and blunts. I wanna be a (rated M for mature) HARDCORE gamer!)

    Did I forget any?

    1. Re:Lets get this over with by Ghostx13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Man, do you think you could whine some more?

      Did you ever think that the people that are excited about the Wii are genuinely excited as opposed to jumping on the band wagon?

      I own a PS2 because there are a large number of games on it that I like and it was fairly cheap. I don't own an XBOX because there aren't any games on it I care for. I'm not interested in an XBOX 360 at all because of the lack of games I'd actually want to buy, and I'm not paying $600 for a PS3. If they made the PS3 $300 and there were more than 10 games I wanted I'd consider it.

      The Wii on the other hand is going to be fairly cheap and there are DOZENS of games that I'll want to get, not including anything new that's released for it.

      Graphics are awesome, and certainly have their place. But I'm not dropping a ton of cash on a PS3 or XBOX just for good graphics. The Wii has absolutely everything I could want in a console: classic games, "casual" games, and party games. The controller is just icing on the cake, and I'd buy the Wii even if the controller wasn't available at launch.

      I don't have a problem with the PS3 or the XBOX 360, they're just not for me. A lot of Slashdot feels the same way, probably because we don't sit in front of a videogame console as our primary means of entertainment.

  3. What it needs the most is... by Data+Link+Layer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good online service comparable to xbox360s live. Imagine super smash brawl with unlimited online oppentens, tournaments galore, and updated content. I play smash bros. melee still but only for the multiplayer. With a quality online feature nintendo will surely take the lead in sales with the next generation consoles.

    1. Re:What it needs the most is... by joe+155 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would think that the service will be pretty good, the service for the DS is very good (although I wish it would be faster at finding opponents). I also think that the download of games will be a really big selling point, getting old classic games for about £2 would mean that for a party I could get about 5 of the classic fun multiplayer games (inc. Goldeneye and Super Smash Brothers, of course)

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    2. Re:What it needs the most is... by WFFS · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only that, but something that attracts all walks of life. You got games that the little kiddies can actually play (I'm sure I'd buy my daughter a game that would allow her to point the Wii and pop balloons!), games for the regular generation of gamers, games for people like me who grew up with the original NES, games that Baby Boomers can play with their kids, and games that allow the more senior members actually participate without too much problem. Sony and Micrsoft have stuck with the 'bigger is better' mentality, whereas Nintendo have stuck with their roots. Good on 'em.

    3. Re:What it needs the most is... by steveo777 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Another of my favorite group games, although only two players, was Super Dodge Ball on the NES. Loads of fun. It was later ported to the GBA, SNES, and NEO-GEO but I never got a chance to play any of these. So perhaps this is my chance.

      Back in the day, nothing was funnier than whipping the ball at a guy on the sidelines who wasn't looking!

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    4. Re:What it needs the most is... by UglyTool · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And I suspect where Nintendo has a target market which includes a lot of younger children/families, many of those people wouldn't want on-line gameplay.

      Quite to the contrary, I think. My daughter has loved Animal Crossing as soon as it came into our home. She has been frustrated, because we don't have any other kids nearby that won the game as well, and she wants to visit new towns. With online gameplay, it could be possible for her character to visit towns world-wide. I, and I suspect many others, would love to have this capability, with other Nintendo games, as well (Harvest Moon comes to mind).

      With online capability, Mario Kart Double Dash, and Super Mario Strikers, Tennis, Golf, Baseball, etc. will take on completely new dimensions. I, for one, am looking forward to it, and will purchase it as soon as it is released.

    5. Re:What it needs the most is... by mattmacf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Meh, I know Nintendo is doing something in the online venue (old downloadable Nintendo emulators and whatnot), but personally, I don't see the fun in playing SSB Brawl online. The past two semesters, I played an ungodly amount of the original SSB (the vintage 64 version), but I doubt it would've been half as fun had it been done online. Personally, half the fun in playing games like that is the trash talk that goes back and forth, the periodic cig breaks between marathon free for all sessions, and the atmosphere of having four guys crammed on a dorm room couch (all conveniently within arms reach, should a dispute need to be settled properly). Honestly, I think a significant part of the experience would be lost in online play. Not to mention the fact that the SSB franchise is the only (AFAIK) worthwhile multiplayer game that doesn't require split-screen goodness. Sure, a game of Halo across the campus LAN can be fun, but even those rarely go more than a few rooms away, and generally teams are kept within the same room. I'm sure Nintendo will have a decent online system this time around (they certainly got it right with the DS), but it won't be the reason I get a Wii.

      Online will (and should) be icing on the cake, but it certainly isn't a selling point (at least for me). It might benefit a couple of games here and there, but at least for the ones I'm keenly interested in (Zelda, Metroid, and maybe a new Mario Tennis with the controller?!?) don't require an online aspect at all.

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  4. It all seemed so elegant... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    with the Wii design, the wii colors, and the wiimote............right up until I hit nunchaku dongle.

    It reminds me of when someone is speaking french and then says an english proper name. For a split second the wheels fall right off.

    1. Re:It all seemed so elegant... by uberjoe · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then I suggest we start a new moniker. You heard it here first folks, I Uberjoe, hereby dub the nunchaku dongle. . .The Wii-chaku.

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  5. Sony v Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Much of the coverage of the next-gen skirmish so far has focused on Sony and Microsoft.

    Really? From reading Slashdot I thought it was 85% Sony bashing, 13% Wii adulation and 2% Atari/Colecovision. Oh and trace amounts of Xbox.
    1. Re:Sony v Microsoft? by syrinx · · Score: 5, Funny

      You must read a different Slashdot than I do. The one I read goes from "M$ is evil!" to "OMG XBOX IS SO SHINY" so fast and so often it gives me whiplash.

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  6. The nunchaku dongle is said to be the first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...copy protection system that can hit you in the balls.

  7. Nintendo's Strength by WFFS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the strength of Nintendo, is that while the PS and XBox have continued along their paths of getting better machinery to make games faster and look more realistic, Nintendo have veered to the left slightly and concentrated on making the gaming experience better. Of course there are some weaknesses as well, but time will tell if this will be a money making strategy. I personally think that both camps will live in harmony for the near future, though the PS and XBox's prices are hard hitters. Thank goodness the PS2 will be supported for the next 5 years. The only things I could improve for the Wii, is to have a built in DVD player, and to get Final Fantasy back on their system. Without those, I actually have to think before I put down my $50 deposit!

    1. Re:Nintendo's Strength by Manmademan · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I think the strength of Nintendo, is that while the PS and XBox have continued along their paths of getting better machinery to make games faster and look more realistic, Nintendo have veered to the left slightly and concentrated on making the gaming experience better.

      The issue with this assertion is that "better" is HIGHLY subjective. To fans of hyper detailed, high physics games that do NOT lend themselves well to using the wii remote as a controller, (say, for instance, something like the next iteration of virtua fighter) what Nintendo is doing may not be making their gaming experience better at all.

      What nintendo IS doing is using the wii controller to try to exploit an untapped demographic- the much older, much younger, or simply has less time casual gamer that has already decided they don't enjoy "traditional" videogames, but might be drawn in (or in some cases BACK in) by the different approach the Wii uses, much like what has happened with the Nintendo DS.

    2. Re:Nintendo's Strength by op12 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...Red Steel uses canned moved...

      Actually, it used to use canned moves. It's not like the game was complete yet.

    3. Re:Nintendo's Strength by c_forq · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Photorealism has happened in games, just they are encoded video files and not rendered. When it comes to rendered work, I still have yet to see anything pass the "uncanny vally" for humans, so I highly doubt anything in this generation of consoles will. The most realistic games I can recall off the top of my head are Shenmu(sp?) for Dreamcast and Resident Evil 4 for Gamecube, niether of which have the power of the PS2, X-Box, or 360. As for controlling fighters, remember the remote can be used as a standard controller, and you can use Gamecube controllers (Gamecube has some pretty fun fighters on it too, like Super Smash Brothers and Soul Calibur 2).

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    4. Re:Nintendo's Strength by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I think the strength of Nintendo, is that while the PS and XBox have continued along their paths of getting better machinery to make games faster and look more realistic, ... "

      Sorry, but the only thing I could think of was:

      The intentional focus on realism is a weak spot, and it occasionally gets hit for massive damage.

    5. Re:Nintendo's Strength by Manmademan · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Photorealism has happened in games, just they are encoded video files and not rendered. When it comes to rendered work, I still have yet to see anything pass the "uncanny vally" for humans, so I highly doubt anything in this generation of consoles will.
      I think photorealism is the wrong objective, as it's too focused on still images. I think realism (not just photo-) is becoming less about what we've come to think of as "graphics power" (which is largely just fill rate), and more about physics and animation.

      I thought I'd reply to you both in one shot. I COMPLETELY agree that just going for pure photorealism is the wrong way to go with games, but considering the gap between where the rendering power of your typical gaming system is NOW, and what a typical NTSC (and NOT highdef) Television is capable of displaying, its clear there is still a LOT of room for improvement. Saying that the Ps3, 360, and Wii games will look exactly the same because we've hit the limits of what's possible on NTSC is just dead wrong. Is the "next" generation capable of photorealism? No, and the one after likely won't be, either. But that doesn't mean everyone should stop pushing the envelope.

      as for physics and animation, we're in complete agreement. "more power" in CPU's and GPU's isn't just for pretty graphics, but will add an entirely new dimension in how our games behave and animate, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the next generation will be able to do.

  8. I hope this works... by ItMustBeEsoteric · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Because I'm sick of liking a keyboard and mouse more than any controller available. Does anyone else here feel the same? I'd bet you do. Now think about how ridiculous that is. Sure, we use the keyboard and mouse more often, but they (mostly) weren't designed for gaming. Yet my Apple keyboard and Microsoft trackball are better than any controller I've tried.

    Design issues, much? I hated Halo on the XBox. Really, really hated. On PC...god, what a difference.

    I also remember the thrill that was Duckhunt back in the day--Nintendo gave me my personal first experience of an alternative gaming controller. I really hope that they can make it that...well, awesome for me again. And that I can shoot the damned dog this time.

    1. Re:I hope this works... by mrxak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I simply refuse to play any sort of FPS on a console. I need my keyboard and mouse. And so many other games that I like to play just don't translate at all to consoles. Can you imagine Civ IV on an Xbox?

  9. Google Trends! by AsmCoder8088 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, in another news, one can find interesting patterns like this...

  10. Their great experiment by andrewman327 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am very glad to see Nintendo willing to experiement with the ways that gamers interface with their devices. Although there have been many different devices made (microphone, DDR mat, Duck Hunt gun, etc.) the latest evolution of the standard controller has maintained hegemony. I wonder what users will think of these new interfaces. They might love them or feel odd because of the change from what they know. Since the big N is (generally) targeting a younger audience, the user base may not be as set in its ways and a new generation of gamers might grow up not as entrenched in the gamepad paradigm of device interaction.

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  11. Wii has easily gotten the most, and best, press by ianscot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aside from last holiday season's hype, the X-Box has been a back burner item for the press. Sony's PR has been almost uniformly poorly received.

    Meanwhile outlets like slashdot have been talking up the Wii for months and months. It's not like we didn't have items posted on /. just for the name switch from Revolution to Wii, you know? Hotly debated at the time, too. People are paying tons of attention.

    Where'd the idea that Nintendo's been all but ignored come from? Lordy. How'd this "Did you know Nintendo has a new console too?" story get accepted?

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  12. Backward Compatible with NES? by Stringer+Bell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was a gamer back when the NES was in its heyday. Then the SNES came out with controllers that had a hundred and dickety-two buttons, and suddenly I turned into Grandpa Simpson overnight.

    I heard a rumor that Wii was going to support original NES games. If true, this could lead me to buy my first console since I was in high school. Unfortunately, the official Wii site doesn't address this at all. That's probably a bad sign, but still I hold out hope. Has anyone else heard this, or can anyone else corroborate the story?

    1. Re:Backward Compatible with NES? by PacoHernandez · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the official Nintendo Wii Website:

      Virtual Console: Wii will have downloadable access to 20 years of fan-favorite titles originally released for Nintendo 64, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) and even the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES). The Virtual Console also will feature a "best of" selection from Sega Genesis titles and games from the TurboGrafx console (a system jointly developed by NEC and Hudson). It also will be home to new games conceived by indie developers whose creativity is larger than their budgets.

    2. Re:Backward Compatible with NES? by Oopsz · · Score: 3, Informative

      rtfa?

      Yes, the wii will let you play NES games. but you can't plug in your old carts-- you have to buy them from nintendo using the "Virtual console" service. Prices haven't been announced, but I think NES games will be in the sub-$5 range, SNES games sub-$10 and N64 games sub-$20. They're a little high compared to free roms, but if they release in that range I'll probably end up buying my entire collection over again.. over 60 NES games and 30 SNES gams :P

    3. Re:Backward Compatible with NES? by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 3, Interesting
      It may sound ridiculous, but the reason that the PS2's backwards compatibility was so good was because Sony actually built a miniaturized version of the PS1 hardware into the PS2. The PS2 firmware would simply run PS1 games off of that hardware when the time came.

      Not ridiculous at all - I am familiar with this technique (the sound controller chip in the PS2 is a PS1, basically).

      There is reason to be concerned when it comes to the PS3. There is no indication that Sony is taking the same approach with regards to minaturized PS1/PS2 architectures inside the PS3. This would leave any backwards compatibility to be handled in software- just like the XBox360. And as we've seen, that hasn't been very complete or very robust.

      Well to be fair, 'no indication' literally means we have no idea one way or the other; they simply haven't said.

      What we do know is that the PS2 has been miniaturized to a single chip quite some time ago (I believe the ill-fated "PSX" DVR mutant they released in Japan used this, as well as the 'slim' PS2). But even if they go the software route, we always have firmware updates to look forward to... weee.

      Xbox360 had a bit of a unique problem in that they were not just changing chip architectures radically but also going to multiproc. You could say the same thing about PS3. It is this reason, and the single-chip approach mentioned above, that makes me think they'll go with a hybrid; an updateable (EPROM-like) hardware emulation that can be patched to iron out compatibility wrinkles. Microsoft actually *ported* those Xbox games; I really doubt Sony will go to that trouble. Thanks for the reply.

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  13. The big N not getting much coverage, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Much of the coverage of the next-gen skirmish so far has focused on Sony and Microsoft.

    Suprisingly, he's right...

    Playstation,
    Xbox, and
    The big N

    Guess who wins?

    1. Re:The big N not getting much coverage, eh? by rcastro0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Guess who wins?

      Spoiler Alert: Answers posted below
      (to save your mouse three clicks)

      PS3: 389 appearances on a Slashdot title
      XBOX 360: 334 appearances
      Wii (or Nintendor Revolution): 70 appearances

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  14. Nintendo only for kids? by kayakun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm so glad to see Nintendo doing something innovative and getting back in the game. I was raised on NES, SNES, and N64, but hated what Nintendo did with the Gamecube. A lot of gamers my age (college-aged) complain that Nintendo is only for kids and doesn't have the hardcore gaming that they look for. Now I don't enjoy the really kiddie games, but I love how creative Nintendo's games can be. Sure, you can have all sorts of realistic high-end FPS, even some with twists (like Prey), but after years of playing those games, it's fun to play something where you run around jumping on walking mushrooms or ride a dinosaur that has a tongue like a chameleon. Sony has a lot of fantasy games, but they don't appeal to me as much as the Nintendo games did.

    I just hope that with the Wii, I can get creative, quirky-as-hell games that are actually challenging and entertaining. I think the Wii-mote will open up tons of doors for some very interesting games. Hopefully developpers pull it off.

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    With such a cheap price-tag on the Wii, I'd rather get a Wii and Xbox than spend that combined money to get a PS3.

    1. Re:Nintendo only for kids? by skam240 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm scratching my head over what you said about the gamecube. you say you hate it but then go on to say you love nintendo's first party games. now the gamecube really didnt do all that much different from the n64, it just had a bit more power behind it. so this leads me to ask, why hate the gamecube and yet love nintendo and its earlier systems?

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  15. Dongles by kernel_pat · · Score: 2, Funny

    They plan to revolutionise the gaming market with the wiimote and to a lesser extent the wiiblowupdoll and with the online gaming capability users will be able to upload their stamina on the blow up doll and compare their scores with each other.

  16. There Is An Exception, IMHO by BRock97 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have to agree, but there is one exception in my opinion. Metroid Prime/Echoes for the Gamecube rocked my world and is on the list of FPS that I did actually feel the need to finish. The thing with Metroid, though, is that Retrogames realized the limitations of FPS on a controller and implemented the lock on feature that made it possible to rock in that game. Between that and the limited RPG elements to the game, they are both classics and ones that I have played over again. If you haven't given them a try, I would highly recommend it.

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  17. A Wii Skeptic by Quarem · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is probably not the outlet to express such opinions, but while I am interested to see what is actually going to come of the Wii I am still really skeptical about the system. To me it seems more like a slightly upgraded Gamecube with a new controller. I'm not sure if that is worth $200 or more.

    It is just far to early to be making any judgments about the Wii. The system is all about game-play and we do not really have any experience with the Wii's game-play to make any judgments about it. Is the game-play going to improve enough to make up for the difference in graphical prowess that the Wii lacks when compared to the other two next-gen systems? I'd like to believe that Nintendo can pull it off, but I'm not convinced yet.

    I'll be sitting on the fence until after the system has been released.

  18. Press release - riddle by srblackbird · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DID YOU KNOW? NINTENDO GAME OFFERINGS HEAT UP AS THE WEATHER COOLS DOWN

    July 25, 2006 - The fourth quarter of 2006 will herald a new era for Nintendo with the launch of its remarkable new Wii(TM) home video game system. But that's not what this news item is about! How could that be, you ask? Perhaps the secret to the launch information for Wii is somehow encoded in the text of this news item. You might want to pore over it for a few hours before staying up all night to debate phraseology and comma placement with your friends online. Or maybe it's all just a scam to get you to read the other games we have launching this fall. One of the two.

    As the weather cools down, the Nintendo portable game offerings heat up. FINAL FANTASY® V ADVANCE makes its way to Game Boy® Advance SP on Nov. 6. As series go, FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies. FINAL FANTASY loyalists will enjoy an opportunity to debate which installment was best.

    Nintendo DS(TM) owners are the big winners. Every week or so, another huge DS title hits, from the Touch Generations title Clubhouse Games(TM) to fan favorites like Elite Beat Agents(TM) and Yoshi's Island(TM) 2. Clearly a gamer's idea of paradise, here is Nintendo's upcoming DS lineup:

    Oct. 9: Clubhouse Games(TM)
    Oct. 16: Nintendogs(TM) (Dalmatian)
    Oct. 23: Magical Starsign(TM)
    Oct. 30: Pokémon® Ranger
    Oct. 30: Children of Mana®
    Nov. 6: Elite Beat Agents(TM)
    Nov. 13: Yoshi's Island(TM) 2
    Dec. 4: Custom Robo(TM) Arena
    Dec. 4: Kirby(TM) Squeak Squad

    And, for Nintendo GameCube(TM) owners, The Legend of Zelda®: Twilight Princess will be available for you this fall. An enhanced version also will be a launch title for Wii. That will all happen on ... Oh look, we're out of space.
    For more information about all of Nintendo's upcoming titles, please visit www.nintendo.com.
    http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=9938

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  19. did anyone else notice by aexiphixion · · Score: 2, Funny

    that the people in those publicity shots aren't fat and lazy like the rest of us?

  20. The real forgotten system by MooseMuffin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The new xbox gets very little credit for what its done. There seems to be a more attention being paid to the potential success of the Wii and the potential dissaster of the ps3 than to the 360. It seems to me that Microsoft has been playing this round very well, with upcoming games that show of its power, live/live arcade, reasonable price (at least in comparison to its most direct competitor), and they still have trouble getting some praise. (I dont know where my bias comes from, I dont even have a 360)

  21. II'm iimpressed by ACQ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now that much of the fanfair has died down for the Wii, I can look at the console with a more objective point-of-view. As a father of two little girls and being a veteran gamer, I see the Wii as being by far the most innovative, fun, and appropriate entertainment device for my kids, my wife, and myself. Frankly, I'm bored stiff with the current offering of games out there (excluding NDS). The old days of Duke Nukem and UT are far behind me. I enjoy my NDS more than any system I've ever played on. Even more than my friend's new $3,500 gaming monstrosity. In other words, the Wii is on our Chistmas shopping list.

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  22. Anatomy of a troll by timster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So mods, for those of you just joining us, the post above is a good example of what's called a "troll". It can be difficult to determine, but here are some signs:

    1. The same message has been posted repeatedly on Wii-related threads. Takes some close reading to catch something like that, but be aware of that eerie familiar feeling.

    2. The message makes claims that are rather unlikely: "one of my friends is currently working on a Wii game"... suuuure. As the system hasn't been released, relatively few teams currently working on games for it, and most of them are in Japan (so they wouldn't have been working on a 360 game before).

    3. The post has a flaw in its internal logic. Game developers in general don't have much access to unreleased games other than the ones they are actually working on. A controller, no matter how fantastic, isn't a lot of fun by itself. It's not surprising that the supposed friend would be bored with playing his own game or swinging the controller around in a devkit demo.

    Anyway, thanks for moderating and good luck.

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  23. Oh, please. by Hitto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been replaying mario sunshine and zelda windwaker on my lowly GC for the last few weeks, and these games look AMAZING. Wii is supposed to be twice as powerful. Just because the other two contenders are number-crunching-powerhouses DOES NOT MEAN THAT WII GRAPHICS WILL LOOK LIKE PONG.

    I call corporate shill.

    1. Re:Oh, please. by Manmademan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      call anything you want, I'm only speaking what makes sense. Tekken 3 and Vagrant Story were great games too back in the day and looked AMAZING. today? Not so much.

      Much as demand for what was "great" by Ps1 and N64 standards died off as the Ps2 and Dreamcast ramped up and surpassed them, its VERY unlikely gamers will simply settle for what was good by Gamecube standards when The Ps3, 360, and PC are breaking new ground.

    2. Re:Oh, please. by tgibbs · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Much as demand for what was "great" by Ps1 and N64 standards died off as the Ps2 and Dreamcast ramped up and surpassed them, its VERY unlikely gamers will simply settle for what was good by Gamecube standards when The Ps3, 360, and PC are breaking new ground.


      Meanwhile, one of the biggest successes of the XBox 360 is the XBox live games, most of which are roughly at the standard of SNES.
  24. Sustainable Entertainment by mizel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What Nintendo is doing with the Wii is great. It's new. It's different. It looks fun. But is it sustainable entertainment?

    As a pretty avid gamer I see myself tiring of the Wiimote (great name, btw). Wouldn't your wrist tire quickly? It just doesn't seem to work well for long periods of gaming (>2hrs).

    Okay, so the average gamer is not hardcore. I understand that. But will they stay entertained? At some point the novelty of the wiimote and wiigames (made that one up) will wear off and the system will be judged on its ability to provide superior entertainment.

    Nintendo can typically provide superior entertainment in its games. I just hope the Wiimote opens new doors for innovative entertainment and doesn't typecast the wii as a novelty item--Virtual Boy style.

    I fully intend to buy a Wii and I think I will really enjoy it. But the real test is if I am still playing it a year from now.

  25. Old and bad news by Mikelikus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This article was discussed a few days ago on Digg and the general opinion was that it was garbage. I agree with the general Digg opinion on this particular subject.

    First of all, if Zelda is first does that mean that the Gamecube will receive a boost in sales as it will be released for both platforms? Games are important but the other platforms also have games, this is not a weapon as massive as others that Nintendo has.

    Discarding all games we are left with three outsiders from the list:
    The Wiimote, which is oddly on the last place: shouldn't it be first? The Wii is almost defined by the Wiimote, it's what makes it different.
    The Virtual Console, on 6th place. Taking advantage of a huge back collection of games, the Virtual Console should be a huge plus for most hardcore gamers that miss a quick fix of old school gaming. I'm sure it's not a decisive feature for most but I would put it far above 6th place.
    And the EA support, on 5th. Is this relevant? I mean, EA is important as it guarantees plenty of games per year but it has a huge downside, most games, in my opinion, are not top notch. Besides, noone buys a console because it has EA games although I'm sure many wouldn't buy a console exactly because it didn't have any mainstream, EA games. Way too high on the list, maybe 10th place?

    Besides these three, there are, at least two important features of the Wii which should have made the top10.
    WiiConnect24 and GCN compatibility. Nintendo finally learned that it was important to ensure a huge catalog of games in every new console right from the start. These two features help in that by making sure you'll receive demos of new games and the ability to play GCN games. These will also be joined by the Virtual Console which is part of the WiiConnect24.

    Other killer features should be stuff like interoperability with the DS or support for indie developers. I, for one, would be extremely interested in developing a small fun game and selling it for 1 a copy or something through the Wii.

    Conclusion: This article misses some obvious "weapons" and seems to have simply chosen 10 things wii-related and shuffled them in whatever way they seemed fit. Horrible article, Zonk should be more careful of what he posts.

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  26. Bazooka, bongos, and oh yeah, the power glove!!! by beemishboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They have been known to try new things such as these:
    Bazooka-like Super-Scope for the SNES
    The Donkey Kong bongo-drums for the aspiring percussionist
    The super-cool Power Glove. Kind of odd Virtual Boy during the VR craze
    The fun Power Pad for Track and Field and other great games which we would play in our college apartment a couple of years ago.
    The ever popular Light gun - who didn't try to shoot the hunting dog in duck hunt when he laughed at you???

    Most of the older stuff can be bought on eBay for really cheap - makes for great nostalgic gaming.

  27. Zelda at launch? A first time for everything. by kinglink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If anything is going to spur the wii on to huge numbers it's Zelda.

    Now before you say "what about Mario" Mario is always coming. People bought the Gamecube for Mario, and got Sunshine, and people were happy. You got Luigi's mansion at the begining though and people weren't doing backflips celebrating that game.

    But Zelda at launch is going to be interesting. This Zelda has definatly been under development longer, better graphics, and new controls, and lack of cell-shaded graphics I hope. It's going to push the system I believe, coupled with a Metroid Prime (which is good but remember Metroid Prime has ONLY been played by Gamecube owners and players)

    The one problem they will have with their virtual console vs. Marketplace is no achievement points (from my understanding) Is it a system killer? Nah, but it's something I wouldn't say no too.

    The most interesting thing is this is the first time Nintendo really did a cross platform game themselves, but on the other hand it does look like it has the power to really launch the system and I'm sure everyone has heard at least one person who was going to buy the Gamecube for Twilight princess, of them many probably are going to pick up a Wii for this game as it's close to the same price.

    The only problem I forsee at launch is a lack of systems which will be a sad day. Btw, at the same time the PS3 is only planning 1 million systems for a world wide launch? I've got to guess they know they should have lower expectations than they did for the Ps2.

  28. "Everyone else seems to be catching up" by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 2, Interesting
    That's a narrow geek observation. Most game buyers won't care who came first; they'll see the remote as nothing more than another peripheral which either comes with or can be bought for their system.

    If anything, what could make the Nintendo a winner in the next-gen sweepstakes is cost. In the 2007 recession, not a lot of people will be buying $500 PS3s or even $300 Xbox 360s.

  29. One Game Missing on Nintendo's Wii by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Funny

    World of Wiicraft: You get to play as a Plumber, a Sword Elf, a Giant Mushroom, or ... um sorry lost track after the mushroom ... think it's magic.

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  30. Re:Wii controller by justchris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The answer to your question is Bluetooth. It has a limited bandwidth channel. By making it the way it is, they save channels for other devices they might want to connect through the Wii via bluetooth.

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