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Dell Issues Laptop Battery Recall

zoogies writes "The New York Times is reporting that Dell is now issuing a laptop battery recall — for notebooks sold between April 2004 and July 18, 2006. According to the article, 'The recalled batteries were used in 2.7 million computers sold in the United States and 1.4 million sold overseas. The total is about 18 percent of Dell's notebook production during the period in question.' This seems to go along with a June Slashdot story on an exploding Dell laptop, and a July Slashdot story on a Dell investigation into its exploding laptops. Curiously, there is nothing yet on Dell Support's product recall page about this latest recall."

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  1. OMG DELL IS COPYING APPLE by WilliamSChips · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple did this like three years ago. Dell is so behind the times!

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    1. Re:OMG DELL IS COPYING APPLE by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dell can't be behind the times. Why, it seems like only yesterday they announced: "Don't pour explosive liquids on your laptop while in flight, our batteries are bad enough as is. Praise be to Allah." Although I'm not sure what they meant.

  2. Hehe by Fred+Porry · · Score: 4, Funny
    for notebooks sold between April 2004 and July 18, 2006
    Cant be that many...hehe.
  3. Web site to check your laptop by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dell has set up a website at http://www.dellbatteryprogram.com to check your laptop model.

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    1. Re:Web site to check your laptop by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 4, Informative
      That may be, but this paragraph makes me think that it has been updated:

      In addition, these batteries may have also been provided in response to service calls. The batteries were shipped to customers between April 1, 2004 and July 18, 2006. The words "DELL" and "Made in Japan" or "Made in China" or "Battery cell made in Japan, Assembled in China" are printed on the back of the batteries. If your battery does not reflect one of these markings it is not part of this recall, and you may exit the site.

      (emphasis added)
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  4. Sony Batteries by Trevahaha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At least they're being open about the fact that Sony manufactured these defected batteries. I wonder if other devices using these batteries are going to start exploding as well?

    1. Re:Sony Batteries by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are correct about other vendors using these batteries, apple included.

      See the comment here:

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=19403 4&cid=15907866

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    2. Re:Sony Batteries by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Informative

      Problem is that companies like Apple and Dell probably have contract terms that stipulate a maximum (typical) expected failure rate above which the component manufacturer must cover some or all of the repair costs. While some of these costs will still probably be borne by Dell, odds are Sony will bear the brunt of the costs unless the folks at Dell are asleep at the switch.

      If you have Sony stock, now would probably be a good time to sell some of it. :-)

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    3. Re:Sony Batteries by dartarrow · · Score: 2, Informative

      from TFA: The safety agency said the batteries were not unique to Dell, meaning that other companies using Sony batteries may also have to issue recalls. Sony has sold its batteries to most of the major computer makers.

      I think that's a yes.

      also here shows that sony batts have been problematic before. I also remember a recall (3+ years ago) for sony camcorders due a battery leakage. One cam apparently caught fire.

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    4. Re:Sony Batteries by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The sad thing is, that Sony is probably the best manufacturer of Li-Ions you can buy from.

      They get so much bad press for their batteries simply because of their market dominance in the battery market. The catastrophic failure rate for batteries from other manufacturers is much higher, it just happens that many of them (such as cheap knockoff cell phone batteries) are not as low profile as exploding Dells, partly due to the reduced size of cell phone batteries.

      The simple fact of the matter is that lithium ion batteries are nasty temperamental things and very easy to cause to explode. There's a reason why (to my knowledge) only Li-Ion has the restriction that bare cells may not be sold to anyone other than people licensed to work with Li-Ions in the U.S. (Any place you order "bare cells" from will have a disclaimer stating that the cells are in a pack with protective circuitry of unknown functionality.)

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    5. Re:Sony Batteries by mjohnsond · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Take the number of vehicles in the field, (A), and multiply it by the probable rate of failure, (B), then multiply the result by the average out-of-court settlement, (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

  5. Better to recall than to burn by ezratrumpet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This large recall will cost them millions. Continued damage to the Dell brand because of laptops aflame would eventually cost hundreds of millions of dollars in reputation. While Dell may have other problems, the battery recall will help them assuage consumer fears about Dell product safety.

  6. How To Check / What To Do by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the official Dell press release....

    Customers should contact Dell to determine if their notebook computer battery is part of this recall. Please visit the firm's Web site at www.dellbatteryprogram.com beginning at 1 a.m. Central Daylight Time Aug. 15 or call toll-free at 1-866-342-0011, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Central Time. Customers may continue to use the notebook computers safely by turning the system off, ejecting the battery, and using the AC adapter and power cord to power the system until the replacement battery is received. Customers can also write to: Dell Inc., Attn: Battery Recall, 9701 Metric Blvd., Austin, Texas 78758.

    1. Re:How To Check / What To Do by NineNine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Am I the only one who does this, anyway? I mean laptop batteries are ridiculously useless. If you're doing anything on the computer, especially with the DVD drive, they only last an hour or three at most. Besides, it's not like an electrical outlet is all that hard to find. I hear that they're even including standard 120V outlets in a lot of passenger cars now!
       
      Getting rid of that useless battery saves tons of weight (not that laptops are heavy these days), but they also save a lot of heat on your lap, and potentially, extends the life of the laptop, because they're kept cooler with no battery.

    2. Re:How To Check / What To Do by aussersterne · · Score: 2, Informative

      You don't need a new car to get a 120v outlet, stop into any truckstop on a major highway and you can get a little box that will plug into your cigarette lighter and give you a 150-200w 120v outlet (enough for nearly any laptop) and it will only cost you $25 or so. They've been around for years, and can be used for other things, too. Running off your car battery you can watch a couple of DVDs and still have enough juice to start your car with no trouble at all.

      Rig one up with a big fat deep cycle RV or motorhome battery in the trunk and an eBay solar panel on top of your vehicle and you can have transportable reserve 120v AC power wherever you go without needing to pull it off the grid.

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  7. Assault and Battery by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, Apple is involved just as much as Dell is. The same division of Sony that manufactured these batteries for Dell also produced many batteries for Apple laptops. Although the issue has already been brought up to Apple, they haven't said whether or not they're going to recall as well, merely saying that they would "look into" the issue.

    (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/corporaten ews/view/224917/1/.html)

    Given Apple's many battery woes, a recall on their part also seems likely if this is indeed the same battery batch/design.

    On the other hand, this is yet another one the conspiracy theorists can blame on Sony (/tinfoilhat on)

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    1. Re:Assault and Battery by vought · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sony was the designer and
      build partner for Apple's original PowerBook 5300 battery, which would have been the first mass-marketed laptop with an L-Ion battery.

      Introduced in the fall of 1995, only about 1500 of the powerBook 5300 units had
      shipped when the battery - again, designed and built by Sony -
      caught fire in an Apple lab. A separate overheating incident at
      Apple later that week caused the company to pull all the stops to
      recall and destroy the Sony L-Ion cells. Customers all received two NiMH
      batteries as compensation.

      Apple's new flagship laptop started life with a misstep because
      of Sony - who Apple never explicitly named in the press.

      What's Sony's problem? Have they figured L-Ion batteries out in
      the past 11 years? Apparently not. no word on whether UPS is going to seek damages from Sony/Dell for the cargo jet they suspect was lost to an L-Ion fire in February.

    2. Re:Assault and Battery by dpiven · · Score: 3, Funny
      The same division of Sony that manufactured these batteries for Dell...

      ...this is yet another one the conspiracy theorists can blame on Sony


      Yeah, first they rootkit my laptop, now they want to destroy the evidence.

      Just imagine the hilarity that would have ensured had one of their batteries caught fire aboard an airplane.

    3. Re:Assault and Battery by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

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    4. Re:Assault and Battery by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 2, Informative

      holy shit I only just now realized that the paragraph tag is allowed!

      Man, you wouldn't believe how many times I'd be Previewing my post just so I wouldn't look like a re-re. I'm saying this in all seriousness right now but thank you for cluing me in to the wonderful world of anglyBracket P slashAnglyBracket. And I for one welcome my new Allowed HTML knowledgeable overlord. To anwser your question though, sometimes it's good to space the comment out so that more people will see it, makes karma whoring that much easier, I know this by experience

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  8. No, actually it's new (again) by dereference · · Score: 4, Informative
    See Dell's official announcement here, where it says:
    Please visit the firm's Web site at www.dellbatteryprogram.com beginning at 1 a.m. Central Daylight Time Aug. 15
    The CPSC page is somewhat less informative.
  9. Re:Bah by SEMW · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sadly, the video's a fake. See http://www.badscience.net/?p=261

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  10. Prerecall sales pitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Another hot item from Dell!

  11. Tesla Roadster by Zobeid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Stories like this make me want a Tesla Roadster somewhat less than I did before. It's powered by 6,800 Li-ion cells.

    Naah, who am I kidding? I'd still give my left kidney for one. Flames are great, maybe we could channel them out the tail like the old Batmobile.

  12. Re:Dell laptops are now banned on Airplanes by d1g1t4l · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On somewhere news in England, Dell Laptops are now banned on airplanes. Actually you can bring your Dell laptop on the plane but the battery is NOT allowed!!! (Can't edit my own comment!)

  13. My dell experience by NosTROLLdamus · · Score: 3, Funny
    Two years ago, I was using a Dell laptop running ubuntu linux. I let my small, impalsyed child play a game of Tux Racer. To my horror, the laptop's battery exploded, killing my child to death in front of my eyes.

    People say that linux is ready for the desktop, but when is it ready to stop killing children?

  14. from report by john_uy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the same sony batteries are used by hp and apple too. so do we expect recalls from hp and apple or is it a different issue where the batteries explode on dell laptops only?

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  15. From the Article by mkiwi · · Score: 3, Interesting
    FTA:
    The safety agency said the batteries were not unique to Dell, meaning that other companies using Sony batteries may also have to issue recalls. Sony has sold its batteries to most of the major computer makers.

    This leads me to wonder if some of the MacBook Pro batteries were made by Sony.

  16. Re:Dude! by Soko · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dude, you bought a bomb!

    Now, why did I first read that as "Dude, you bought a bong!" ?

    Soko

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  17. I Asked the Dell Support Forums by aquatone282 · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . and a moderator told me to format my C: drive and re-load Windows XP.

    </sarcasm>

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  18. Seeing what you want to see by Howzer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Issues like this are fascinating for what they reveal about people's preconceptions and habits.

    On the face of it, it's simply a "large company recalls large number of items after small (relatively) number of incidents" story.

    But look at all the Dell, Sony, Apple, etc. etc. conspiracy theorists and wingnuts come out of the woodwork! So much blaming, everyone certain that their already pre-selected villain company is trying to end civilisation as we know it.

    Come on, people. This is News for Nerds. It's not News for Mouthbreathers, although sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

    Batteries have been causing fires forever. Even the old D-cells you stick in your torch will self-immolate given the right conditions. Think about it. Acid. Metal. Electricity. It's not amazing there are fires, it's amazing there are so few. Laptops have been catching on fire since the very first luggables rolled off the line at Compaq, IBM, etc.

    So let's just keep this in perspective. If you want to jump up and down about unsafe products, then go nuts about SUVs. Oh, and don't think that starting your post "I used to like Company X but now..." makes you any more of an intellectual and any less of a wingnut. Just read the numbers again. How many batts recalled? And how many incidents again? Jeez... Move on, nothing to see here...

  19. That many? by Aokubidaikon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...notebooks sold between April 2004 and July 18, 2006

    Even if 99% of people who Dell laptop during that period hears about the recall and actually exchanges their batteries (highly unlikely) there will still be 41000 unsafe Dell laptops out there.
    Expect to read more about Dell laptops exploding in the months to come...

  20. Re:Dude! by FSWKU · · Score: 3, Funny
    Dude, you bought a bomb!
    Now, why did I first read that as "Dude, you bought a bong!" ?

    Because you've been hanging around the stoner Dell guy too long?
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  21. Web enabled cat... by jkburges · · Score: 3, Funny

    My girlfriend's comment is that she likes having a Dell laptop, as it keeps her lap warm, kinda like having a cat sitting on her lap haha.

    Well, so long as it doesn't explode (I haven't heard of any exploding cats), then we will both be happy.

  22. How to check, serial number, and the URL by martinbogo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dell batteries subject to the recall :

      1K055 C5340 D6024 JD616 U5867 X5333 3K590
      C5446 D6025 JD617 U5882 X5875 59474 C6269
      F2100 KD494 W5915 X5877 6P922 C6270 F5132
      M3006 X5308 Y1333 C2603 D2961 GD785 RD857
      X5329 Y4500 C5339 D5555 H3191 TD349 X5332
      Y5466

    The bottom or side of the dell battery will have
    a serial number in the form of:

    JP-111111-22222-333-4444

    You should look for the number in the [111111]
    section -- e.g.

    JP-A1K055-22222-333-4444 .. would be an example of a battery subject to the
    recall.

    In order to verify your battery serial number, and
    get one sent to you, go to:

    https://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/Default.aspx

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  23. Former Dell tech a Wingnut? by twitter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    look at all the Dell, Sony, Apple, etc. etc. conspiracy theorists and wingnuts come out of the woodwork!

    Wingnuts like former Dell tech, Robert Day? Did you read the article? You might have caught this little piece:

    Although Dell told the agency that only six incidents had occurred, a reporter viewed almost 100 photos of melted notebooks that were returned to the company from 2002 to 2004. The photos, from a Dell database, were supplied by a former Dell technician, Robert Day, who said such damage was more of a common thing than they are letting on. As many as several hundred a year were returned. Mr. Day said, I did see so many pallets of stuff coming in that they had to use my lab for overflow storage.

    Did you also catch the little bit about FIVE previous battery fires on airplanes in the last two years? One in a UPS jet destroyed the plane after landing. One had to be chucked out before take off. The other three FAA cases were not so interesting, except for the fact that smoking batteries now placed in cargo holds will take the plane down instead of being contained because the Department of Homeland Security is saving us all from exploding laptops. Do some research on the gruesome details of the ValueJet crash sometime. It was caused by a fire in the cargo hold and people were really outraged at the that someone would put an obvious fire risk down in the cargo.

    If you want to jump up and down about unsafe products, then go nuts about SUVs.

    That's a good idea too, but it has nothing to do with the issue, which is an obviously flawed product being sold for two years. SUVs do not have such obvious flaws for the most part and when they do, a recall happens.

    Perspective is that no one's life is less important than company profits and you will get caught. When there's a clear problem, like hundreds of melted laptops a year, you need to act. The problem is not going to go away until it's fixed. When a third party does something as simple as taking an xray to identify your problem for you, you look very bad.

    The story was well researched and things look very bad for both Dell and Sony here. The recall is a good idea but it sounds like it's coming a year late. It will take care of 4.1 million fire hazards.

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  24. Yep, with Li-ion nano phosphate by skids · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pretty incredible things these are -- all the advantages of Li-poly with none of the stability problems. www.a123systems.com

    Right now they are what powers the Dewalt 36V power tools, and you can pick up slightly-overpriced hobbyist assemblies at www.a123racing.com. Valence also makes something similar, perhaps a bit more famous for being in the Segway, called Saphion, but doesn't seem to direct-market them.

  25. ValuJet Flight 592 by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 2, Informative
    Do some research on the gruesome details of the ValueJet crash sometime. It was caused by a fire in the cargo hold and people were really outraged at the that someone would put an obvious fire risk down in the cargo.


    While I agree with you in principle, they have been negligent here even though they are not the only ones to have these battery problems, but let's still be a little fair to Dell. If I recall correctly the ValuJet Flight 592 crash was due to ValuJet management outsourcing work to a maintenance contractor that was cheap (and contrary to popular management dogma cheap!=good, especially in the airline business). The contractor improperly secured a batch of chemical oxygen generators and placed them in the aircraft's cargo hold which caused the fire. While it's a good example of the hazards of in-flight fires the ValuJet crash was not Dell's fault.
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  26. Alternate link with picture! by chrisb33 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Personally I like this link much better: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/technology/15bat tery.html?ex=1313294400&en=af57f2af347e0f52&ei=508 8&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    I'm not sure whether that picture is the scariest thing I've ever seen or the funniest thing I've ever seen. That guy looks like he's about to get his shotgun and head for a Dell executive.