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Free PC With French Broadband Connection
robson writes "Neuf Cegetel announced the purchase of AOL France, an ISP that counts 500,000 broadband subscribers and the arrival of 'the box,' an Internet access terminal. Code-name: Easy Gate.
It's a computer, working under the Linux OS. It's a router. It's a DSL modem. It's also a telephone. All in one.
Easy Gate will be available from November, the actual 'box' consists of: an Intel 852 GM, 6 ports USB 2.0, 512 Mb of RAM and 512 Mb of Flash memory."
I read the topic as Free PC with French Bread Connection
So it's basicly a company giving away a free low quality Dell PC.. not a bad deal but I expect they'll wan tyou ro return it when you end the service as is the deal with my "free" router.
I like muppets.
It's a computer, working under the Linux OS. It's a router. It's a DSL modem. It's also a telephone. All in one. Easy Gate will be available from November, the actual 'box' consists of: an Intel 852 GM, 6 ports USB 2.0, 512 Mb of RAM and 512 Mb of Flash memory."
I hope it's secure. I don't need SPAM from 500K new sources.
A win for Linux? Maybe encourage more mainstream plugin and webapp development? It's France and EU turf so it looks like a good thing on the surface.
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..Using the French Connection....
Hmm... considering AOL is not the cheapest, certainly not the best and by far not the most reliable service, and that box costs about a box of ciggies on the 2nd hand market, my guess would be that the TCOO is by far lower with another provider and a bought box after less than a year.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
French fries > french cuisine? Wrong.
They are offering a very good deal with their service, i would like to know how much it costs for it monthly and what type of speeds would you get on the broadband connection?
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The fact that it's linux means the slashdoters will love it, the fact that it's AOL they will hate it. The sheer conflict in the minds of the slashdot readers will cause more than one head to pop.
Also, what kind of a name is "America OnLine France"? Shouldn't it be "France OnLine"? FOL? Hmmm....
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Anybody know what distro this beasty runs?
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
I wonder what distro they'll use. A custom one, perhaps?
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Code-name: Easy Gate. It's a computer, working under the Linux OS. It's a router. It's a DSL modem. It's also a telephone. All in one.
Well, so then it's not a "free PC", it's a "free internet access terminal". I doubt anyone's going to be running half-life or photoshop on that thing.
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I WAS KIDDING !!!
After AOL realised that there was no gold left in france they packed up their prospector costumes and their picks, sold out, and moved onto the next country. Boy, you sure know when a companys in it neck deep.
Very wrong, since 'French' fries are actually Belgian in origin.
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The French had something like this long before the Internet became commercially available: Minitel. It was wildly popular because the device was given to subscribers for free.
This sounds much better than the Free Dell you can get when you sign up for Teuls High speed here in Canada (alberta)
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Shouldn't that be FOL then?
Je ne peux pas installer des jeux vidéo sur la machine.
Luddites pour toujours !
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- Intel 852 GM
- 6 USB 2.0 Ports
- 512 MB RAM
- 512 MB Flash Memory
That Intel card is a decent graphics card, good enough for web browsing, and 6 USB ports are great. 512 MB of RAM is pretty good, but only 512 MB of storage space (with the flash memory)? I'm assuming this won't have a hard drive, considering that it's free and there's no mention of one. You can't even install Ubuntu (or similar) on this! All you'll get is a stripped down KDE or GNOME environment with Firefox/Konqueror and Kopete/Gaim (I'm assuming so much at least). You couldn't even have space for documents. Sure, there are USB ports, but flash drives aren't good enough for bulk storage, and external hard drives are just bulky. I know this is meant as a web browsing tool, and nothing more. Worse yet if that the second anyone has an issue with this, they'll most likely blame Linux. You would never see Windows on a PC like this, so people would just assume that Linux is just a step behind Windows. This is far from the free computer everyone has been expecting.Indeed, and the french in french fries has nothing to do with France, but comes from the verb "to french".
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Nearly everyone in europe has monitors lying around... It's illegal to throw electrical equipment out improperly in the EU, you can only exchange your old model for a new model (there's a surcharge on all electrical goods as retailers just pass the cost on to the consumer...) or pay a special collection depot to take your kit. Yeah, that might sound annoying to an american. But on the plus side, we don't drink so much cadmium :-)
/., but if anything I'm _better_ at shifting old kit than most because of geekiness. Chances are, if you're in europe and ask around your street nowadays, you can get several monitors, not to mention lawnmowers, washing machines, vacuum cleaners, cheese sandwich makers, fondue sets, soda stream machines and god only knows what else.
I have 3 LCD panels and 3 CRTs at the moment. I only use 2 of the 3 LCD panels. Yeah, I'm reading
It's nice to see the French using Linux here, though I guess it may seem in a clearer decision in light of current Microsoft/EU tensions. The best part is probably the way French people say "Leenoox" which we'll now hear more often than ever.
This is a really cool innovation for French people too leftist to run Microsoft but too poor to own a Mac, following in the proud tradition of Minitel -- which, humble as it may seem in retrospect, was pretty cool if you happened to be a Canadian teenager who'd never heard of the Internet before when he first saw the network in action. Ahem.
My question: does it have an integrated bidet?
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If all of you Francophobes could untwist your shorts for a minute, you might realize that this is pretty much an updated version of the Minitel, which most geeks thought was pretty damn cool back in the days of expensive 300 baud dialup.
Besides, it runs Linux.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Wrong, they callem them "pomme frites" (potato fries)
When did this happen? I would love to convert a few people over to linux/bsd/etc but they are tied to AOL so they are pretty much stuck with windows.
Can this be done here in the US somehow?
---- Booth was a patriot ----
... and if it were American it would have the smoke screen of lies...
Another instance of bubblepack computing(like the gumstix, socket pc, OLPC etc.). So cheap it's a giveaway/impulse buy, Linux based with zero maintainence/zero service. Sure, not a gaming rig, but sufficent to do the primary functions of a PC these days websurfing and light office functions. Not likely to be a primary machine, but an excellent kitchen/bedroom terminal, perfect for hotel/public terminal axcess. While they won't replace the present PC they will crowd them out just as PCs did to mini's. /. crowd starts modding bubblepack computing for specialized apps (wardriving, geolocation, picture frames)
What will be interesting will be when the
I'm gonna pop that lid top and steam me some rice in that baby. Yeaaaahhhhh... at last Linux has gone BEYOND TOASTERS.
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Do you know how many French soldiers died fighting the Nazi invasion? Do you know anything about the Free French Forces or the French Resistance? It is amazing how many Americans have this unhistorical belief that the French just gave up and accepted the Nazis - they fought just as hard as every other nation and lost hundreds of thousands of people in combat. More French soldiers died battling the Nazis than US soldiers.
Wow - A Full 500 huh?
that's not even remotely funny. in fact, all the french jokes stopped being funny 2-3 years ago
really, get over it.
ROTFL Why anonymously? That was FUNNY.
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And as long as it pokes at America and not France, it will not get modded flamebait.
But Belgium doesn't count. Hasn't anyone ever told you that?
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Linux is pretty well suited to this model of operation. It can be stripped to a reduced configuration. Since most people won't be doing very complicated things on the device itself, the "Linux-ness" of the device should not become a usability issue for most people.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Wow. The last in the apprently long line to completely fail to get the joke. And this one's a flamer.
Emphasis on the last five letters.
Actually, I'm pretty sure there's a name for people such as yourself, who ignorantly sling insults while failing completely to pay attention...
I'm also pretty sure that the term had been wrongfully ascribed to an entire subset of the human genome - mostly as defined by a particular set of appearance traits - causing it to be too politically charged to be used appropriately. Like it should be in this case.
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Do you even know how to take an obviously rediculous joke in good nature?
No. Apparently not. Par for the course on this new fangled intarweb.
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No, the parent is right - the French are great cooks and truly have superior taste. They will make fine slaves.
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For those of you who can read french, here is the official annoucement :
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http://www.groupeneufcegetel.fr/html/Presse/Neuf_
They say it is an all-in-one service that will include the PC, the LCD screen, mouse, keyboard and webcam. Internet service (up to 8Mbits). Applications including web browser, e-mail reader/writer, instant messaging, an office suite and a multimedia reader. Security features will include a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-popup and parental control. An easy to use interface and tutorials on how to use the internet. Support will be included and provided by Neuf Cegetel and they can remotly connect to the computer for easy troubleshooting plus updates will be automatically downloaded.
The distro is a custom one but all sources will be available on their website !
Seems better to me then a Windows PC...
Hi-res pics : http://www.neufgiga.com/partage_neuf.php?folder=1
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well, the Maginot line was a pretty impressive piece of defense, though they never took into account the possibility of being flanked.
kinda like having a foot-thick steel door, then someone breaking a side window to get in.
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since he'd be my 'Gate'-way to the internet
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No, even simpler [i]frites[/i], at least in everyday's language.
One of those Europeans...
well, the Maginot line was a pretty impressive piece of defense, though they never took into account the possibility of being flanked.
Well, they did take into account it being flanked, but they didn't do anything about it. The work to make it unflankable was designed, but France lost interest after seeing the bill. The part that was built was done closer to the time when people were still motivated to defend from the Germans.
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I giggled. Grow a funny bone.
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Gee, and I just thought the engineers were having fun.
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Typical Slashdot response. This computer is not meant for the average Slashdot reader. It's meant for old women who would like to browse the web or send their relatives email, but who don't want to deal with the nuisances of PC's and Windows. These people don't need a 120GB hard drive or the ability to install Ubuntu.
And no, these people will not blame Linux if things don't work right, because they probably won't even know that their computer is running Linux.
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Belgium, which I visited a number of times, at least the french speaking part, is that little "extra" to France which :
- Has the great luck to be independant from France,
- So does not get stupid laws made in Paris,
- Preserves a lot of interesting characteristics in various domains.
I always thought the "belgian jokes" we have around in France are born from jealousy...
One of those Europeans...
Why don't people just donate them to goodwill?
I'll just use my special getting high powers one more time...
HUH!!!
But then you are stuck with telus for 3 years. Telus silently blocks ports such as 80,443,25,53 and a few more i cant think of offhand. They do not inform you of this untill after you buy the service and call to complain. Thats not worth a 4000 dollar computer let alone this piece of crap dell.
I'll just use my special getting high powers one more time...
Not that France counts for very much either, except as the screeching leader of the Anybody But America crowd.
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
Some things aren't so funny -- we're talking about people's ...", you get the idea?
parents and grandparents being shot, sent to concentration camps
etc. "Heard the one about the plane which flies into the side of
a building
Yeah, like the fat american stereotype.
Lemme give you a hint: everyone makes fun the the US. They rarely bitch. Why? They make fun of themselves.
Learn it.
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"Heard the one about the plane which flies into the side of a building ..."
I did. That one was hilarious ^_^
Honestly, if you can't laugh about it, you're doomed to whine about it for the rest of your life. Even jewish comedians make holocaust jokes, after all.
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You know how the Vichy regime came to power? After the Germans invaded and most of the French military had been destroyed they deposed the existing Prime Minister (Reynaud) and his top people in the resulting chaos, Petain claimed power despite Reynaud never being legitamately deposed - it was a kind of coup. The US immediately recognized the Vichy regime, allowing them to claim legitimacy and consolidate power. It wasn't until the US finally decided to enter the war that they supported the Free French Forces and began providing limited supplies to the French Resistance - so by your logic the US are just as much collaborationists.
In reality, the remnants of the army in France formed the backbone of the French Resistance, and the North African divisions formed the backbone of the Free French Forces. Most French people did not support the Vichy government and viewed Petain and Weygand as traitors. Almost every single Vichy leader was convicted of crimes against humanity and most were sentenced to death in French courts after the Nazis were expelled from the country, at the local level many were murdered when the Nazis were overthrown. Even as recently as 1993 a Vichy leader who had been acquitted in his trial after the war was re-tried for crimes against humanity (although he was murdered before his trial could be completed). The collaborationists were a small subset of the French who were empowered by the Nazi regime. The mass of the French people did not support them then and do not support them now. The US had it's own collaborationists and Nazi-sympathizers, people like Henry Ford, Charles Lindberg, and the leaders of IBM - none of them were ever brought to justice though.
No, the US rarely bitches.
Why
They simply ignore other countries.
Bahumbug! As an American I am able to laugh at jokes using American stereotypes. They're natural and unless used in an insulting or deragatory manner they're harmless. As others have noted it's...ironic, I guess?!?, taking history into consideration.
The Germans went through too fast, however. France was very well prepared to fight WWI. Just in time to fight WWII
The 150eur are just the guarantee and will be refunded on return. The 100euros are to buy the flat screen/webcam/keyboard/mouse and that's optional. The 40eur/mo are the subscription fees (with their current adsl modem: 30eur/mo). So the rental costs 10eur/mo, included in the subscription, and is replaced on hardware failure (see my post for details).
ouch! I guess me not being American doesnt mean anything to you? Do you know how many jokes there are out there about the French surrendering? Are you going to flame them all? And what if I told you I know plenty about WWII (Having studied it n'all). And raise your hand if you thought that I might just be pointing the finger at it being the Americans invading France? - ok, no? No one got the 'A' in aol bit.....
Oh and prison = GTMO (sorry for not making it clear enough) Perhaps I should have mentioned it was a joke I guess rushing a post in an attempt to be 'mildly lame' before leaving work wasn't the smartest thing I did today.
NZruss ----guess which country NZ is.... do you know our history with the French? Starts with an "R" and ends with "ainbow warrior" (this is to the person who was trying to offend me with the WTC post below)
when it spawns a discussion of recycling.
Something just doesn't feel right.
Flash RAM and I assume a stripped down custom kernel means this thing is gonna boot faster than any hard drive based PC on the market. Think 10 to 15 seconds from power button to a login prompt. Consider the fact that most people think a computer is "fast" if it can boot quickly and open the programs they want in short order, not run benchmarks fast. Assuming it's got some way of pulling updates automatically, it should be leagues past other entry-level PCs in this regard. I don't see it really becoming "obsolete" in the near future either. If it's got no moving parts other than fans, it also has the potential to be quiet.
For slashdotters, this thing would be great for network multimedia storage or a personal webserver (with an external USB hard drive), for teaching people Linux, as a small portable box to run emulated games off of, hell, put a USB wireless card on and turn it into a firewall/router.
Even jewish comedians make holocaust jokes
If I hear a jewish comedian do this, I will laugh. There is no way I, or any non jewish person, should make a joke about it.
If a US citizen was to make a 9/11 joke, I would be very surprised. I don't think you guys have got the same depth of history as they have. It is 5 years since most of you noticed that there are some groups of nutcases that want to kill you. Jewish people have had this for many centuries.
Perhaps you do have comedians doing this. I've not heard any.
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
as in 'frenchize'
605413? Yes, it's a prime.
until they decide to bomb it into the stone age.
605413? Yes, it's a prime.
We do.
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My USB Key has more storage space...at least you can buy a USB hard drive though.
I *was* going to put it in there, but that'd have crossed the line into flamebait.
Sometimes they just bully people into being their allies, threatening to do as you say.
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Most households almost certainly dispose of a relatively similar number of old appliances and electronics.
It makes more sense to up property taxes a hair and then provide the service to everyone in the county; much easier than trying to pick up a few dollars here and there.
I have to drive to a neighboring county and pay to get rid of crts etc because my county is so assbackwards.
Why'd ya post as anonymous coward??
lol last time I heard "pommes-frites" it was someone's nickname in a french movie from the 1950's (I'm french btw)
You just got troll'd!
"Lemme give you a hint: everyone makes fun the the US. They rarely bitch. Why? They make fun of themselves."
Sorry, is this "hint" in relation to some sort of question that I've missed?
Because a hint actually pretains to giving away a small part of the answer to a question asked, not making a statment which expresses some point of view along with a retorical question.
Actually, it starts with "colonisation in the 1830s", and ends with "very strong trading links, a bilateral working holiday scheme, defence cooperation in the South Pacific, a bilateral air services agreement, and multiple visits in both direction by high-level politicians each year".
The specs here aren't really important : the real geek/tinkerer gets happy coz it runs linux and on such a small form factor ... ;')
:-) and those are still pretty useable :)
:) eehehhehe....
and would promptly start to mod it/compile new software/make it do things it wasn't prepared to do
Like linux wouldn't already run very smoothly on these....there are still people with pentium 2-266 and 128mb ram with xfce and firefox and etc
By the way, here in japan almost all isps are doing the same thing, but you pay like 10,000/15,000y (hmm...98/140~USD) and you get one of those refurbished PCs, the point here guys is that the japanese society is one of the most (if not the most) consumist in the world, *refurbished* pcs here mean "1-year... 10-months used, user found a prettier box and bought it"....those refurbished are usually pentium-III 766 with 512mb ram....30gb HD and comes with a CRT and keyb/mouse if you want. Surely a temptation for any hardware geek that wanna run a lot of boxes on separate points of the house doing some pointless-but-could-be-automated-with-linux task
maybe so many died because they sucked
Or maybe so many died because they didn't wait until 1942 to fight, or maybe because they got actually invaded.
Btw according to the wikipedia link someone else posted in a reply to you, about twice more american soldiers died from that war than french, but they also fought in the Pacific..
Oh well, you're probably the type of american (what else could you be?) who thinks that latin americans speak latin and who thinks there are cheerleaders in french schools.
You just got troll'd!
Yes this box looks like a big breakthrough for not so computer literate people looking for getting in touch with friends and relatives using today's technology.
However, this almost comes like shadow over the Free Telecom's new Freebox which comes with router, Wifi-MIMO connection, HD TV tuner and something like 50 free channels and a total of 200, including all the international ones like CNN, BBC and many others, a VoIP phone system with free calls to landlines all over Europe (free calls to Australia, the US and Canada for instance!)
I keep going: Possibility to watch TV on your computer using VLC or use it as a multimedia player to send video and audio stream to the box that then displays it on your TV and sends the sound to your HiFi system through the Optical connection. Ah yes also video on demand with films that you can replay and fast forward for 24hours just as a DVD.
Of course it can provide very fast Internet connection (28Mb/s), obviously runs Linux and all that comes for the ridiculous price of 30 per month (they just lend the box to you!!!)
All that to say, with such as competition on the ADSL market in France, no wonder why Neuf Cegetel is trying to catch with such an offer...
Just a quick note:i es
The US suffered roughly twice as many soldiers killed in WWII as France did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualt
Yes but:
- relative to the population, France had a 0.5% military casualty rate, the US 0.3%.
- total casualties (including civilian) for France were 562,000, and 418,000 for the US (4 times less than France relative to the population).
France declared war on Germany on 09/39 (after the invasion of Poland), whereas the US declared war on Germany on 12/41 (after Pearl Harbor). Cold feet?
France has had more fatalities in UN peacekeeping operations than the US.
Who is a coward again?
Mods - this is not supposed to be insightful, but funny!
Do a search on "Maginot Line" if you don't know what it is and why it's funny when related to an 'easy gate'. Hint
I can accept that stupid people like to moderate funny the lukewarm joke about fleeing and WW2. But insightful ??? Francophoby and prejudice run an all time high on slashdot !
By the way : easy Gate : "simple portail" in direct french translation. In french I would translate into "Accés simple" but this clearly would not be as nice a keyword as easy gate.
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ever since singing mephistopholes in la damnation de faust i've had a soft sport for france.
:)
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They rarely bitch. Why? They make fun of themselves.
Depends on who you talk to. There are plenty of hyper-sensitive bigots (sorry, "patriots") who can't cope with even minor, reasoned criticism or jokes. Particularly if money is involved.
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not fighting the Nazis, that's fighting the Japanese too.
Money, or Georges Walker "Enlightened Leader" Bush.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
Some french "indie" artist once said "Better laugh about it than not care."
I'd much better have comedians cracking jokes about the holocaust, or the inquisition, or terrorist bombings (cracking jokes about terrorists is much more effectives than destroying sovereing nations in the guise of looking for them by the way) than people who just don't care, or try to deny facts.
Look harder
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
Why yes, because it's well known that no american individual nor any american corporation collaborated with the nazis...
Oh well... how about actually learning history instead of just spouting off lies about things you don't know jack shit about?
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
Addendum: this link doesn't split between european deaths against germany and deaths on then pacific front against japan.
A fair comparison would be french body count vs (american body count versus germany).
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
Good news. I think that most of slashdot, like myself, had no clue what "Maginot Line" means, and figured it was some insightful translation. I probably would have voted it insightful if I had mod points and hadn't read your commend, since I have no idea what "Maginot" means and like to pretend I reward people for being smart.
In other words, great news. we're not intentionally offensive to the french, we're just really intellectually lazy.
nothing of interest has ever come out of Belgium.
Woody allen in his first books wrote nice jokes about holocaust.
Too bad I can't quote any of them on top of my mind right now.
i dont think goodwill want broken monitors.
(1.21 gigawatts) / (88 miles per hour) = 30 757 874 newtons
Like, for example, the way that the USA made the French invent a word for "inch" (France has used a mètre divided into 100 centimètres since time immemorial) rather than relabel disk drives and monitors being exported to France?
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Anybody remember this little jewel? It didn't last very long. I'm just glad I didn't have to support it when I was at He^H^H Dell.
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I agree... I couldn't find figures for just the European theatre. I do seem to recall that the European theatre was the more costly of the two, but I can't find any references and could well be wrong. Also, those figures don't take into account civillian casualties, of which France suffered considerably more.
hahaha, yeah, my parents have never had anything but Citroëns (right now we have a Saxo and a C3). I like Peugeots too tho, although Citroën and Peugeot are pretty much clone companies now.
You just got troll'd!
1) I never wanted to believe Gates when he said "Hardware will be free" (or something to that effect) but apparently he was right. Yes, I know it's not really "free" but to the end user it might as well be - it's now something that is just bundled with a service.
2) I remembered seeing part of a Bob Colwell (PentiumPro Cheif Architect) talk at Stanford sometime around '02 where he made a few comments about the PC & CPU industries turning into a commodity market where everyone competes on price instead of performance.
It would be interesting to look at the long-range strategic plans from Intel and AMD side-by-side and see how they're adapting to this shift.
Like, for example, the way that the USA made the French invent a word for "inch" (France has used a mètre divided into 100 centimètres since time immemorial) rather than relabel disk drives and monitors being exported to France?
So, the French, living in France, a stones throw away from Britain, home of the Imperial system, never bothered inventing a french word for "inch", in spite of the millions of Brits passing through for hundreds of years.
Wow, how unlikely.
If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
Long time I hadn't had any "know-it-all" AC answer. (1) I never said that bytes always were 8bit-long; Seriously, who doesn't know that? Thank you, Captain Obvious. (2) Bytes are *ALWAYS* translated to "octets" in French. Read as: There is no word meaning "byte" other than "octet" in French, or "octet" is the official French translation for "byte"; and all "French bytes" are 8bit-long (so, in French, it would be "512Mo" and couldn't be confused with "512Mb", hence the submitter's mistake which as a translation mistake and not a conversion one). Next: Where did I speak of other languages? Did I say that "octet" was only used in French? Did I say that it was *only* a French word (actually, it comes from Greek and English took the word from French; just like triplet, quadruplet, quintuplet, sextuplet, septuplet or n-uplet [rare: tuple used instead]): No.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
BZZZZZT wrong. I never said NZ was a French colony, only that it was colonised by the French. Go and read a history book.
Stop discussing here about assumptions. The EasyNeuf box is detailed here: http://www.easyneuf.fr/ (the first "Presentation" item in the side menu) The open-source development site will open here very soon: http://www.easyneuf.org/