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Firsthand Account of the Christie's Star Trek Auction

DustCollector writes to mention a Scientific American blog post about the highly successful Star Trek auction at Christie's on Thursday. The props, from many different shows, went for far more than was estimated. From the article: "The auction board flickered in perpetual motion as dollars changed along with the equivalent in euros, British pounds, Hong Kong dollars and Japanese yen (what, no quatloos?). Picard's Enterprise-E captain's chair, estimated to sell for $7,000-$8,000, went for $52,000. Two prop wine bottles of 'Chateau Picard,' estimated to go for $500 to $700, sold for $5,500. 'That's probably a record for empty wine bottles,' the auctioneer quipped. The sale prices so exceeded the estimated price that absentee bidders--those who place a maximum and hope for the best--hardly stood a chance: I counted only two successful absentee bids in the first 124 lots."

151 comments

  1. Shocking by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know those guys we always used to beat up in gum class?

    Yeah, they ended up with all the money.

    I'm being sarcastic of course, I lacked the bicepts to ever raise a fist in anger/frustration ...

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    1. Re:Shocking by Osty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, they ended up with all the money.

      But now they only have empty wine bottles, and Christie's has all the money.

    2. Re:Shocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I was always made to get rid of my gum in class.

    3. Re:Shocking by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      used to beat up in gum class

      I think you got it backward. Gum class is where you go AFTER you get your face smashed in.

    4. Re:Shocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But now they only have empty wine bottles, and Christie's has all the money."

      That's not likely. If you have the money to spend that much on empty wine bottles, it usually means you have a hell of a lot more money than that at your disposal.

    5. Re:Shocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      errr, the bulk of the money goes to Paramount not Christie's

    6. Re:Shocking by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. They make these things now -- credit cards, I believe they're called -- where you can basically fork over a half-year's pay in a 15 second transaction. It would surely be sorely tempting for anyone who wanted some genuine Trek memoribilia badly enough.

      It's probably safe to assume that the six figure items, however, went to people who had 7-8 figure incomes.

  2. obviously by macadamia_harold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The high bids made me wonder just why people were willing to pay thousands of dollars for cast resin and foam.

    It's not just "cast resin and foam". It's "cast resin and foam" that was in Star Trek

    1. Re:obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right now parent is mod'd as Funny, but context is a hell of big deal....

      If you wanted to replace your kidney, without the idea of context, you could get away with just dumping in the chemical elements that make up a kidney, couldn't you? Obviously, doesn't work that way.

      Similarly, code is just flipping some bits, which in turn are a few electrons. Electrons are cheap. Why should coders get paid? Effort is just a few ATP--we could just pay them absolutely and nothing more than throwing a few potatoes at them (hmm...that almost came off as a bad pun).

      Frankly, I think some of the auctioned items went for cheap. These were essentially one-offs, with a clearly documented history both in terms of possesion (set to storage to auction to buyer) and video history. In any other auction set, such as the car world, that adds to the price (yes, even cars that appear in, say, a tv episode segment go for more). Why should this be any different?

    2. Re:obviously by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      Oh, bullshit.

      You're talking about completely different things here. One is that there's more value in an object than in its components. Nobody disputes that a statue is worth more than the bronze it's made of.

      But what the grandparent is talking about is the added value of an object due to belonging to somebody or being the "original" used somewhere. For example, underwear has a worth on a market. The same underwear is for some reason worth a lot more if it belonged to Marylin Monroe, something that IMO is plain bizarre.

    3. Re:obviously by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      Man, I had to throw out this old Bible I found the other day, some loser named Gutenburg had scribbled on it.

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    4. Re:obviously by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      That's again a different matter. There's 3 possible sources of value for a Gutenberg bible:

      One that it's an instance of one of the first books printed. These days books are made with different means, so if you wanted to study old books, how they hold up and decay then it's valuable.

      If on the other hand, you're interested in the contents, a modern cheaply printed equivalent is just as good if not better.

      Finally, it's an Original Gutenberg Bible (TM). This is the part I think is bullshit. For me the only two sources of value are physical characteristics or content, age and past ownership or usage is meaningless. Of course, should I find one of those I'll gladly sell it for lots of cash, while thinking "sucker".

    5. Re:obviously by theelectron · · Score: 1

      It's sad when a human being doesn't know how to appreciate art in any of its forms. Some may even argue that they are no longer human at that point.

  3. Well, you didn't go to spelling class either. by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 2, Funny

    What *DID* you do in school?

    Poking fun. :-)

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  4. Full scale models by waynemcdougall · · Score: 5, Funny
    Full-scale models of the Enterprise-A and Enterprise-D dominated the front of the room.

    Full-scale? That must have been a large room.

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    1. Re:Full scale models by jcr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Full-scale? That must have been a large room.

      Nah, the actors were tiny.

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Full scale models by Uncle+Dick · · Score: 0

      Don't call me Tiny.

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  5. Picard's Flute by bwave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No mention of the flute from 'The Inner Light' that Picard played. I was thinking of putting in an absentee bid on that, but I knew no way I'd get it. I think they first listed it for something like $300, then upped it to $800 because of interest. Can't imagine what it really went for.

    1. Re:Picard's Flute by Y-Crate · · Score: 5, Informative
      No mention of the flute from 'The Inner Light' that Picard played. I was thinking of putting in an absentee bid on that, but I knew no way I'd get it. I think they first listed it for something like $300, then upped it to $800 because of interest. Can't imagine what it really went for.
      $40,000
    2. Re:Picard's Flute by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've always wanted a 4,000,000 pennies whistle.

      KFG

    3. Re:Picard's Flute by Y-Crate · · Score: 1
      I've always wanted a 4,000,000 pennies whistle.
      The best part about this one is that it is absolutely non-functional.
    4. Re:Picard's Flute by IanDanforth · · Score: 5, Informative

      Incorrect

      It actually went for $48,000. And at least to me that 8k matters.

      PICARD'S RESSIKAN FLUTE - Lot 537

      http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LOTDETAI L.ASP?sid=&intObjectID=4780101

      Lot Results

      http://www.christies.com/auction/results/results_l otlist.asp?saleno=NYC1778&page=6

    5. Re:Picard's Flute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine that the $8,000 difference is the "buyers premium," a technique an auctioneer usually uses to scam money off the other end of the deal.

    6. Re:Picard's Flute by Teilo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Correct. A prop only. The dubbed music was played by Brice Martin. We penny-whistlers have had an obsession about the Picard whistle for a long long time. Owning this thing is the ultimate prize for those with WhOA Disorder.

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    7. Re:Picard's Flute by Kjella · · Score: 1

      It actually went for $48,000. And at least to me that 8k matters.

      ...but for the guy who bid $800 I imagine it could just as well have been $48 million.

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    8. Re:Picard's Flute by Eudial · · Score: 1

      The best part about this one is that it is absolutely non-functional.
      The first scenario that springs to mind is that the buyer clearly is a wealthy mad scientist that is planning to overtake the world with clones of Patrick Stewart. In order to do this he obviously needed a DNA sample, which he can extract from this flute.
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    9. Re:Picard's Flute by scottv67 · · Score: 1

      In order to do this he obviously needed a DNA sample, which he can extract from this flute.

      There's got to be a joke in there somewhere about George Takei extracting something from Shatner's flute...

    10. Re:Picard's Flute by cerebis · · Score: 1

      In my best Simpson's Comic Store owner voice

      "Best episode ever!"

      That was one item I considered bidding on when Christies first announced the auction

    11. Re:Picard's Flute by kfg · · Score: 1

      It is, however, to Stewart's credit that he took lessons and did a reasonably convincing job.

      I don't spread myself too thinly across the Web, but C&F is one of the places I pop in to now and again. I've never had the WhOA infection; I'm one of those guys who's been playing the same Generation for 30 years . . .but Busman only lives down the road a piece from me. . .

      And his play, and cost almost several fewer pennies.

      KFG

    12. Re:Picard's Flute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Yeah, the valuators were nuts on that one, even at $800. But I was figuring $10000 or so. $40000, wow.

      But what do you expect for almost the only relict left from an extinct civilization?!! :-)

    13. Re:Picard's Flute by Ster · · Score: 1

      Ditto.

      Of course, I looked at the "estimated" price, thought about how many dot-com millionaires managed to actually cash out with millions, and how many of them must be fans, and realised I didn't have a chance.

      :-(

      /me whistles the tune from /The Inner Light/

      -Ster

    14. Re:Picard's Flute by dfries · · Score: 1

      They sold Picard's flute? Don't the actors get any first dibs on their props?

    15. Re:Picard's Flute by _Stryker · · Score: 1

      Well, it really depends on if you are including the buyers premium or not. The bidding actually only went to $40,000, but there was a 20% buyers premium on top of that which is included in the figures on Christie's website.

      Also, depending on which state the buyer was located in, then sales tax was also applied. So, if I had actually been able to win anything at the auction (yes I was there) then I would have had an additional 8.25% added. For a total of 28.25% with the buyers premium and tax. // Sean

    16. Re:Picard's Flute by IanDanforth · · Score: 1

      I didn't know this. I appreciate your response! -Ian

    17. Re:Picard's Flute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the auction catalog description, it's not even a playable flute. Still, a very nice item to have.

  6. Authenticate it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You better get some kind of certificate of authentication so your
    parents can sell it after you move out of the basement.

    1. Re:Authenticate it! by tehlinux · · Score: 2, Informative

      ftfa: No jokes about living in parents' basement, please--these buyers can afford their own places.

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    2. Re:Authenticate it! by bennomatic · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yes, but have they ever kissed a girl?

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    3. Re:Authenticate it! by morcego · · Score: 3, Funny

      They can afford their own girls :)
      *ducks and hide*

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    4. Re:Authenticate it! by arth1 · · Score: 1
      ftfa: No jokes about living in parents' basement, please--these buyers can afford their own places.

      True. Makes me wonder how many of the buyers are going to either appreciate what they got or let others appreciate it, and not just use it as an investment or marketing gimmick.
      IMHO, a few of these items truly belong at the Smithsonian.

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    5. Re:Authenticate it! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      No jokes about living in parents' basement, please--these buyers can afford their own places.

      It does not matter, we....I mean they *are* Trek Fans. Maybe they will snaz up the basement with the money.

    6. Re:Authenticate it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although a more pressing problem would be keeping your parents from finding out you swiped their cardit card. Maybe you could have the mail delivered directly to the basement for the next month?

    7. Re:Authenticate it! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      A very few.

    8. Re:Authenticate it! by jftitan · · Score: 1

      But after spending that much! How many had to move back into their parents basement? Huh? "Bring it Nerd Boy!"

      Star Wars Sucks! (comical fun, please don't consider this a flame, or some effort to actually piss off nerds.)

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    9. Re:Authenticate it! by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the old classic science fiction plot:

      Boy meets girl.
      Boy loses girl.
      Boy builds girl.

      Thanks to T.A. Waters (no relation) for the above.

    10. Re:Authenticate it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bigot.

    11. Re:Authenticate it! by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      No jokes about living in parents' basement, please--these buyers can afford their own places.
      Financially, maybe, but not psychologically.
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  7. Beat me to it! by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    Now, if only I was fast enough to find a Star Trek equivalent to the Magrathea factory floor. Unfortunately, someone will probably beat me to that, too, with an episode that actually shows an auction house that big...

    Oh well, Hitchhiker's doesn't have quite the stigma of Trekkie.

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    1. Re:Beat me to it! by Kredal · · Score: 1

      The Dyson Sphere from "Relics" was pretty close. think of Larry Niven's Ringworld, but a whole sphere that size. 1 au radius. Bazillions of planets could fit inside.

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  8. FTA by nihaopaul · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some notable items and sale prices, along with original estimates in parentheses:

    -Borg alcove: $8,000 ($700)
    -Borg mannequin: $9,000 ($800)
    -Worf's Klingon baldric sash: $3,200 ($300)
    -Six Romulan Senate chairs: $1,900 ($800)
    -Type 2 phaser from Star Trek: Nemesis: $3,200 ($1,200)
    -17-inch tall latex-foam statue of Zephraim Cochrane: $5,500 ($500)
    -Captain Picard's black-and-grey uniform: $15,000 ($8,000)
    -Borg cube model, 30 inches across (the small one): $80,000 ($1,500)
    -Enterprise-E model: $110,000 ($12,000)

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    1. Re:FTA by VoidEngineer · · Score: 1

      From the looks of things, it looks like the estimators consistantly undervalued these items by either 50% or an entire order of magniture.

    2. Re:FTA by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1
      -Enterprise-E model: $110,000 ($12,000)

      That's odd. Maybe it's just me, but I thought the Enterprise-E was a 100% digital effects model? Why would they bother creating a physical model if they're only shooting the digital set? The only thing I can think of is a rough model to prototype the design before making a digital version.

      Anyone have the deal on this, or do I need to run scandisk on my brain?
    3. Re:FTA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the looks od things, it looks like the estimators consistently underestimated the numbers of rich virgins by an entire order of magnitude.

    4. Re:FTA by SDF-7 · · Score: 1

      It is just you. The Ent-E went 100% digital in later movies (I believe Insurrection was fully digital -- could have been a mix, though... certainly Nemesis was), but used a physical model in First Contact. Presumably, that was the version auctioned off.

    5. Re:FTA by captn+ecks · · Score: 1

      It was actually the Enterpise D... someone misspoke.

    6. Re:FTA by DarrylM · · Score: 3, Informative

      "That's odd. Maybe it's just me, but I thought the Enterprise-E was a 100% digital effects model? Why would they bother creating a physical model if they're only shooting the digital set? The only thing I can think of is a rough model to prototype the design before making a digital version."

      <geek_mode>
      From the Star Trek The Next Generation Companion, the First Contact movie used minatures for most of the space scenes, including a 10 foot model of the Enterprise-E. I'm assuming this was the one sold here. Part of the saucer section was also built in minature for the crash sequence in Nemesis.
      </geek_mode>

      (Yes, I am moved out of my parents' basement.)

    7. Re:FTA by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      no it was the E, First Contact used a physical E model along with its digital one. Only later when they changed the E did it become fully digital

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    8. Re:FTA by FuturePastNow · · Score: 1

      The 78" Enterprise-D model built by ILM went for $576,000. How low was its estimate?

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    9. Re:FTA by istewart · · Score: 2, Informative

      The ramming scene in Nemesis actually used a physical model of the Ent-E's saucer. Everything else was digital, though.

    10. Re:FTA by syousef · · Score: 1

      > -Captain Picard's black-and-grey uniform: $15,000 ($8,000)

      Fuck I hope that was laundered before it was auctioned off. I imagine it was worn quite a bit and I know I wouldn't pay USD15k for a sweaty jogging suite worn by Patrick Stewart a few years ago.

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    11. Re:FTA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $25000 - $35000. They were a bit off as were all the estimates. The original total was something like 2 million which turned out to be $7,107,040. Also add the $85,120 buyer's premium to that $576,000 and probably tax depending on where the buyer is.

    12. Re:FTA by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Why would they bother creating a physical model if they're only shooting the digital set?

      A *really* well-built and shot model can still look at least as convincing as a CG render, IMO. Look at the Discovery in 2001 (which was enormous), the ships in all the Alien films (even the awful Resurrection has two great-looking ships that were made to look even nicer by the lighting and film stock used), the Super Star Destroyer, etc.

      CG has been used to make some neat space ships, but in my experience they don't usually hold up as well over time, as the technology advances. I'm thinking of everything from The Last Starfighter to Babylon 5 to the Star Wars prequels. For me, at least, it's because when they're released, they have a wow factor due to looking better than the last CG movie, but as soon as something better comes along, the flaws become really evident.

      I've also heard (though this may not be true any more) that building a physical model is more or less the same price as building a CG model of equal detail. Of course, with a CG model you can mass-replicate them and blow up as many as you want.

      Even if someone were planning on going all-CG, it might make sense to build at least parts of the model physically. Model artists have some *awesome* tricks for detailing, so they could maybe put together a couple pieces for the CG team to work from.

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    13. Re:FTA by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I'd be willing to bet a virgin who can afford $110,000 for a model probably isn't a virgin, from gold diggers if nothing else.

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    14. Re:FTA by Ikester8 · · Score: 1

      The look on your wife's face when she opens the MasterCard bill? Priceless.

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  9. Complete listing by Telvin_3d · · Score: 1

    I am wondering if anyone knows where I could find a complete list of items and their sale prices? I am curious what some of it went for.

  10. So... by dangitman · · Score: 1

    How much for William Shatner?

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    1. Re:So... by metlin · · Score: 1

      How much for William Shatner?

      You get him, and the next thing you know, you're going to be hit by a crap-ton of paternity suits.

      By women.

      Alien women, at that.

      Goodluck, buddy. Now, Tasha Yar on the other hand...

    2. Re:So... by technos · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Well, considering Shatner is Priceline's whore for about $6 million, my bet is you could own him lock, stock, and toupee for about ten.

      He became spokesman for a one time payment of 125K shares in the company. He sold off 35K @ $90, or $3.15 million, and has 90K outstanding @ the potential price today of 38.50, or $3.47 million.

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    3. Re:So... by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      William Shatner is free, but there's a $3,000,000 fee if^h^hwhen you return him.

    4. Re:So... by Megane · · Score: 1

      How much for William Shatner?

      That prop hasn't aged so well in Paramount's storage. Now instead of saying things like "beam me up Scotty", it says nothing but "Denny Crane!" over and over.

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  11. Funding by PresidentEnder · · Score: 4, Insightful
    So... wait. People are willing to pay a grand total of hundreds of thousands of dollars for the old props, right...?

    How much does it cost to make a season of Star Trek?

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    1. Re:Funding by GNU(slash)Nickname · · Score: 1

      Hundreds of thousands? Try $7,107,040 USD.

    2. Re:Funding by Bemopolis · · Score: 1

      Well, the price just went up; they have to buy a whole new set of props! Unless you want some K/S slash movie shot near The Vazquez Peaks.

      And yes, smartasses -- but their basement is roomy...

      Bemopolis

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    3. Re:Funding by lennier · · Score: 1

      $1-2 million per episode, I believe. And that's done cheap.

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    4. Re:Funding by Burning1 · · Score: 1
      How much does it cost to make a season of Star Trek?
      A lot more, when you have to re-create all your props.
  12. Estimates are bogus. by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The Summary:
    The props, from many different shows, went for far more than was estimated.


    Appraisers working for auctions routinely set estimates lower than what they really expect the item will fetch at auction - both to encourage bidders to step up to the plate early on and so the auction can claim to get "much higher prices" than expected, thus enforcing the Christie's premium name to sellers/estates who are thinking of consigning items there. Afterall, they have to compete with Sothebys.

    And if it turns out to be a very bad auction, at worst, they'll probably just hit estimates - and that doesn't sound as bad P/R wise than missing estimates entirely.
    1. Re:Estimates are bogus. by Ninjaesque+One · · Score: 1

      Use your own judgement: Would you have expected a 10-foot piece of foam to go for the price of a house in Wyoming or some random god-forsaken place?

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    2. Re:Estimates are bogus. by no+haters · · Score: 3, Informative
      Appraisers working for auctions routinely set estimates lower than what they really expect the item will fetch at auction - both to encourage bidders to step up to the plate early on and so the auction can claim to get "much higher prices" than expected

      This is ridiculous. Please try to use some common sense. Have you ever worked in an auction house? The Christie's premium name to sellers/estates has to do with 2 things: The amount of money (people) they can bring to bid to an auction and the ACCURACY of their estimates. If an auction house tried to routinely lowball their estimates to generate interest, it would destroy any credibility they might have and it would have the exact opposite effect: People, unable to know whether or not estimates were legitimate or not, would not bid on items. Also, encouraging bidders to "step up to the plate" as you put it is the job of the auctioneer, who sets the opening bid, not the appraisers. Most items have a reserve price set by the seller, separate from the estimate put out by the appraisers, thus ensuring their independence and (when they get it right) their accuracy.

      The Star Trek auction generated far more interest than the company expected. I went to Christie's before the auction and looked at all the items, and it is easy to see how they set the estimates where they did. Most of the stuff had very obviously been sitting unattended in a warehouse for an extended period of time, and Star Trek has been on the decline (in terms of viewership) for a while now. How would they know that the 40th anniversary sale would reawaken the inner geek in so many people with so much disposable income?

    3. Re:Estimates are bogus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Afterall, they have to compete with Sothebys.

      Actually, they have been bitchslapped for colluding with Sotheby's to avoid competition.

    4. Re:Estimates are bogus. by rolfwind · · Score: 1
      This is ridiculous. Please try to use some common sense. Have you ever worked in an auction house?


      Yes. Next please.
    5. Re:Estimates are bogus. by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      They were colluding with Sothebys to keep commission rates high - asides a handful of auction houses, there are not many practical places to sell very high end goods for good money (in other words, these places attract buyers with good money and interest).

      But they were still competing with Sothebys for good consignments - large and expensive estates. It doesn't do them any good to have high commission rates on zero merchandise.

  13. Interesting comment about currencies. by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Funny

    I found the number of currencies used interesting, and can imagine the work needed to get them converted back and forth fast enough to keep up with the action. One thing, though, there was no mention of bars of gold-pressed latinum.

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    1. Re:Interesting comment about currencies. by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 2, Funny
      One thing, though, there was no mention of bars of gold-pressed latinum.

      This was essentially a memorabilia auction, and as such consisted mainly of props and not metals/currency. For the current prices of metals, you may want to look to the New York Mercantile Exchange, and google for precious metals retailers. I'd give you a direct link for gold-pressed latinum, but I think my computer is acting up, as I can't seem to find a good one just now.

      "Computer, what are the nearest sources of gold-pressed latinum" yields no results, for me.

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    2. Re:Interesting comment about currencies. by Megane · · Score: 1

      "Computer, what are the nearest sources of gold-pressed latinum" yields no results, for me.

      Well there's your problem. You asked it for sources of GPL, not where you could acquire it. Your computer doing a search of the entire Glactinet to check each and every planet for GPL ore deposits or mining, so that it could then sort by distance. Your petaQ Pentium would take approximately three months to finish that search, and that's only if you had a 100Mbit fiber connection.

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    3. Re:Interesting comment about currencies. by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Of course there were no bars of gold-pressed latinum for sale. I was a tad surprised that there were no bids of the form "five bars of gold-pressed latinum." After all, they were used as a currency.

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  14. Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by Entropy · · Score: 1

    .. the formula for transparent aluminum.

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    1. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by GFree · · Score: 1

      But then you'd be altering the future!

    2. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by elmCitySlim · · Score: 1

      Too bad it'd take years to figure out the dynamics of its matrix. But when you do, you'd be rich beyond the dreams of Averase.

    3. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


      You want it. here it is.

      Al2O3, also known as Transparent alumina.

      You people should know full well most of Gene's ideas were BASED on real science. Transporters, Tractor Beam, Deuterium, Antimater are all real.

    4. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by htnprm · · Score: 1

      How do you know he wasn't the one who invented the stuff?

    5. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by Elrond,+Duke+of+URL · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, but how do we know that Entropy didn't invent the thing?

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    6. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by ATinyMouse · · Score: 1

      I love ST4 and besides the scenes with Spock trying to use "colorful metaphors," my favorite scene is when Mccoy hands Scotty the mouse who then tries to talk to the computer with it. I laugh every time I see that. Even better is when Nichols tells Scotty to use the keyboard who then starts typing away on it like he has used a QWERTY keyboard his whole life... That movie is simply a classic!

    7. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1
      I love ST4 and besides the scenes with Spock trying to use "colorful metaphors," my favorite scene is when Mccoy hands Scotty the mouse who then tries to talk to the computer with it.

      I still love Scotty's line: "You're still working with polymers?!?"

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    8. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by cerebis · · Score: 1

      I would have beat you to that reply, but my computer only had this quaint mouse interface.

    9. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Avarice." synonymous with, "greed."

    10. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by mabba18 · · Score: 1

      Hello Computer....

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    11. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy with .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  15. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy...darn geeks by daemonenwind · · Score: 1

    What, you couldn't say Marina Sirtis, Gates McFadden, Jeri Ryan, Majel Barrett?

    Get out of the basement, man.

    Sheesh.

  16. What to do? by edwardpickman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cure world hunger or bid on an original Enterprise model. Decisions, decisions.

    1. Re:What to do? by c0d3r · · Score: 1

      Try the peace corps.

    2. Re:What to do? by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      I think you misunderstood. He doesn't actually want to DO anything about it, he just wants to sit in his comfy office and whine about it. It's far easier to criticize others for not doing what he thinks should be done, than actually doing something himself.

    3. Re:What to do? by wombert · · Score: 1

      If you think that a few hundred thousand dollars (or even 7 million) is all it takes to "cure world hunger" you really shouldn't be questioning anyone else's sense of proportion.

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    4. Re:What to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use a couple of thousand dollars to buy goats or cows for a hundred families in Africa to help them become self-sufficient, or spend it on a computer and internet connection to post silly comments on Slashdot.

      We can see which you chose.

    5. Re:What to do? by stile99 · · Score: 1

      Duh. Just bid on a replicator.

  17. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a friend (a collector) with an original printed copy of the scripts from the original Star Trek, (a set probably used during the filming given the written markings on them) including one for each episode. I think one or two of them have a signature from by Gene Roddenberry. When he got them, he was excited, thinking they might be worth a few thousand... seeing this. wow... might be more.

  18. Warp Speed IP by c0d3r · · Score: 1

    How much for the attorney fees for the patent to Warp Speed engines that have been made public domain from the outset? What about for the IP to improbability engines?

  19. Must be nice to have such high standards.. by Lactoso · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Well, considering Shatner is Priceline's whore for about $6 million"

    'whore'? I think you need to hold either the higher moral or economic ground to make that kind of statement. I 'whored' myself out to former employers for considerably less. :-(

    1. Re:Must be nice to have such high standards.. by technos · · Score: 1

      whore'? I think you need to hold either the higher moral or economic ground to make that kind of statement. I 'whored' myself out to former employers for considerably less. :-(

      Well, it would be nice to have either, or preferably both, but alas, I also sell my soul by the slice for far less money than he made out of that gig, and am gifted with not only a foul mouth but a certain ethical flexibility that would have one believing I had been elected to public office.

      I have no defense for what I said about Mr. Shatner, and I apologize. I was attempting humor and it miserably failed. However, my insult about politicians, from this comment, stands.

      Sidenote: If he had sold at the low point of Priceline's stock, he could have probably made more money collecting cans and scrap metal on the streets of Detroit in the same time period.

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  20. That's a lot of money.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Lot #712 Selling Price: $576,000

    Lot Title STARSHIP ENTERPRISE-D
    Estimate 25,000 - 35,000 U.S. dollars
    Lot Description STARSHIP ENTERPRISE-D
    The hero visual effects miniature of the Starship Enterprise-D from Star Trek: The Next Generation, fiber-reinforced cast resin construction with internal neon lighting [untested] on an aluminum armature with motion control mounts, with motion-control mounting hardware, power supply box [untested] marked "obsolete" and box marked "neon lights" -- 78x59½x14½in. -- built by the Industrial Light and Magic Model Shop for "Encounter At Farpoint," the pilot movie for Star Trek: The Next Generation, featured in the show's main title sequence and in many subsequent episodes, later refurbished for its starring role in Star Trek Generations, the first movie with the Star Trek: The Next Generation cast, some lettering on the saucer has been restored subsequent to filming Star Trek Generations
    Lot Notes The sleekly-elegant Starship Enterprise-D was the brainchild of Consulting Senior Illustrator Andrew Probert, whose film and television work includes Tron, Airwolf, Back to the Future, and the original Battlestar Galactica. Probert updated Matt Jefferies' classic Enterprise design, giving it a biomorphic elegance, melded with Probert's signature attention to functional details.

    That's rediculous for a prop that doesn't serve any functions.

    They made over 7 million in this auction of 1000 items, btw.

    1. Re:That's a lot of money.... by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      Lot #712 Selling Price: $576,000

      Lot Title STARSHIP ENTERPRISE-D

      built by the Industrial Light and Magic Model Shop for "Encounter At Farpoint," the pilot movie for Star Trek: The Next Generation, featured in the show's main title sequence and in many subsequent episodes

      That's rediculous for a prop that doesn't serve any functions.

      It's... the... ENTERPRISE. The starship Enterprise. Galaxy-class, NCC-1701-D. The actual Enterprise, the one on the screen, this is it. It's not just some prop they used once or twice, it's the STARSHIP. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisations, to boldly go where no-one has gone before.

      This is up there with... I don't know. The actual model Enterprise used in all the space scenes from Star Trek... as geek memorabilia goes, this is like having the complete original Darth Vader costume, or the sketchpad on which someone at Nintendo first outlined Donkey Kong, or the sexual favours of Sarah Jane Smith. It's absolutely priceless. Half a million? I'm not surprised at all, I just wish I was that rich.

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    2. Re:That's a lot of money.... by dfries · · Score: 1

      How much would Space Ship One go for? It was a real space ship that really went into space and more than once!

    3. Re:That's a lot of money.... by Elminst · · Score: 1

      At least $25 Million. As that was the cost of development...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceShipOne

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  21. If I had that kinda money... by r_bertram42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd hire Bill Shatner to sing me a "happy birthday" song. Will be worth every penny (or quatloo)!

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    1. Re:If I had that kinda money... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd hire Bill Shatner to sing me a "happy birthday" song. Will be worth every penny

      I don't know dude. Based in his previous commericial recording experiments, I don't think I want to be there when he hits a note that no man has hit before.

    2. Re:If I had that kinda money... by PygmySurfer · · Score: 1

      I don't think I want to be there when he hits a note that no man has hit before.

      Would that be this note?

    3. Re:If I had that kinda money... by r_bertram42 · · Score: 1

      I'm just saying, it's something that I'm gonna remember for ever! Well, at least until I'm senile.

      Bad memories are memories too, you know! They have rights!

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    4. Re:If I had that kinda money... by 21st+Century+Peon · · Score: 1

      "Happy; birth, day... to -

      Khaaaaaaaan!!!

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    5. Re:If I had that kinda money... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Then pay somebody to slug you in the face. It is cheaper.

  22. Somewhere in the Universe by ndogg · · Score: 4, Funny

    A ferengi is crying happy tears.

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  23. A three hour tour by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Have other TV shows had this kind of frenzy? Like how much would Maryann's original shorts go for? Lotta memories in those babies.

    1. Re:A three hour tour by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1
      Have other TV shows had this kind of frenzy? Like how much would Maryann's original shorts go for?

      Maryann who? I don't remember her, was that from some boring episode of Enterprise that I didn't bother to watch? Scott Bakula never did much for me, after Quantum Leap, anyway.

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    2. Re:A three hour tour by frogstar_robot · · Score: 1

      The parent poster probably means Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057751/
      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0920171/

      She was supposed to be the Midwestern "Girl Next Door". Nothing doing. She was hot.

    3. Re:A three hour tour by morie · · Score: 1

      "was" being the operative word here...

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  24. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy...darn geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marina Sirtis, Gates McFadden, Jeri Ryan, Majel Barrett?

    Let me be the first to say... MAJEL BARRETT!?
    One of these things, is not like the other things ...
    One of these things, does not quite belong ...

  25. Kivas Fajo's Costume? by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the auctioned off the costume of the character Kivas Fajo from the TNG episode "The Most Toys"? It would have been an appropriate acquisition for these bidders under the cirumstances.

  26. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy...darn geeks by isometrick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are clearly not enough of a geek. Majel Barrett would totally be a score, just get her to record some kickass login sounds for your PC. Or record all of your PBX prompts:

    "This phone will self-destruct in 5 seconds."

    You'd be the envy of Slashdot.

  27. Wouldn't it be cheaper... by PietjeJantje · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be much cheaper to hire the prop makers?

  28. They could have doubled the take... by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    All they would have had to offer were some of Marina Sirtis's & Denise Crosby's "gently used" undergarments.

    LK

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    1. Re:They could have doubled the take... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      All they would have had to offer were some of Marina Sirtis's & Denise Crosby's "gently used" undergarments.

      The ones with the tailored camel-toes?

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    2. Re:They could have doubled the take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ones with the tailored camel-toes?

      They'd need to be sure to include a spoon and a bib.

  29. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy...darn geeks by rackrent · · Score: 1

    Majel Barrett was also Nurse Chapel in TOS (as if you didn't know).

    She was quite pretty, then.

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  30. This auction shows... by sinij · · Score: 1

    To me this auction shows that Star Treck is still very strong brand and is very capable of producing popular shows given that it stays true to its theme.

  31. What I want to know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  32. Re:Forget all the props, I'd be happy...darn geeks by scottv67 · · Score: 1

    Majel Barrett was also Nurse Chapel in TOS (as if you didn't know).
    She was quite pretty, then.

    Dude, "then" was before I was born...

  33. What about the ladies? by AubieTurtle · · Score: 1

    Ashley Judd was in an early episode of TNG, did they auction her off?

    I suspect that she would go for quite a bit more than Kirstie Alley.

  34. In case you are curious by Daysaway · · Score: 1

    And I was definitly curious... Sum of auction lots - $7,107,040 USD* *Lot 521 has mysteriously disappeared from the Christies website. So give or take some decals...

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  35. Re:This auction shows... That people are idiots by Gnostic+Ronin · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This has nothing to do with ST being still a good brand-name. This is about idiots willing to drop $45,000,000 for bits of sets. The Ent D seats look almost exactly like minivan seats, yet they go for $200,000.

    It's a feeding frenzy based on the idea that "rare" is the same as valuable. Same as what happened in St. Louis when they tore down old Busch Stadium. You could buy just about anything -- and people did. I don't know exactly *why* people were paying thousands of dollars for used urinals from old Busch, but I guess they figured that urinals go UP in value once the building they were housed in comes down. And much like this auction, I think the value is highest right now. The grandkids might say "Daddy, what's a Vulcan" and simply not get it. Beanie babies are worth all of about $10 now, even though at the height of popularity, people were paying hundreds of dollars for them.

  36. Shell-shocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    My wife and I - yes, my wife - were there on Saturday. Most of the people in the room had been there the previous days, and had seen what things were going for. Talking to some of them, and looking around the room, I think quite a few people were shell-shocked. Sure, some of the people there had big bucks, and were prepared to spend whatever was necessary. Others clearly had hoped for a few items, but maybe settled for one. Still others were not major collectors, but simply hoped to take a memento or two home with them; many of these probably never ended up even placing a bid as prices spiralled out of control.

    We had a few items we were looking at. Some quickly escalated to insane levels, items we couldn't afford without dipping into our retirement savings. One or two were at levels we could have managed, but simply weren't worth what it would have taken to bring them home. Fortunately, the item my wife was most interested in was within our budget.

    Sitting back and watching as the Enterprise-D approached, and then finally hit, the $500,000 mark was surprisingly exciting (the quoted price of $576,000 includes the Christie's commission, which is not included in the bidding price). It was an entertaining experience, even for those who left empty-handed.

  37. Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in my parents basement, you insensitive clod!

  38. this is important for people to know by Artifex · · Score: 1

    If you've never won at a traditional auction before, the idea of a buyer's premium can be quite a shock. It's certainly something to budget for.

    Back when I bought several lots of (original series and a half) Battlestar Galactica memorabilia from Profiles In History a couple of years ago, the amount of the premium made an impact in my decision to forgo bidding on other items. While tax wasn't an issue for me, because I was out of state, they did also charge an extra percentage for having a credit card transaction instead of funds wired in.

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    1. Re:this is important for people to know by Prometheus+Bob · · Score: 1

      So that you're aware, that would be against their credit card processing agreement. They could technically lose the ability to process credit cards by charging more for a credit card transaction than (say...) a cash transaction if it was proven that's what they were doing.

    2. Re:this is important for people to know by tomlouie · · Score: 1

      Hence why Christies won't accept CC for auctions.

  39. Bogus estimates CAN hurt business by Jetson · · Score: 1
    Appraisers working for auctions routinely set estimates lower than what they really expect the item will fetch at auction - both to encourage bidders to step up to the plate early on and so the auction can claim to get "much higher prices" than expected, thus enforcing the Christie's premium name to sellers/estates who are thinking of consigning items there. Afterall, they have to compete with Sothebys.
    That mentality can backfire, of course. Some people might look at the results and conclude that the appraisers had absolutely no clue and were therefore misrepresenting their capability to hold such an auction. The worry would be that if they under-valued the items by 80% on this auction, they might significantly over-value items next time. That would mean that either nothing would sell because of a hard reserve, or else the bidding would go below the starting point on the first few items, encouraging people to down-bid everything else even if the appraisal was reasonable.
  40. Highest selling lots by gurnec · · Score: 1
    The four highest selling lots were:
    • Lot 978, $144,000 DR. MCCOY'S SPACE SUIT FROM "THE THOLIAN WEB"
    • Lot 1000, $284,800 ENTERPRISE-A MODEL AND POWER SUPPLY (ST: The Motion Picture)
    • Lot 983, $307,200 KLINGON BIRD-OF-PREY (ST3: The Search for Spock)
    • Lot 712, $576,000 STARSHIP ENTERPRISE-D ("Encounter at Farpoint", ST: Generations)
    And the total purse for all 1000 lots comes to: $7,107,040!
  41. $576,000 by arctan1701 · · Score: 1

    $576,000 for the enterprise

    Starship Enterprise-D

    lot 712 results
  42. Which one? by lennier1 · · Score: 1

    The description kinda contradicts itself. Its either the huge one that was used from the beginning or the smaller, more detailed model that was built later when TNG was already a couple of seasons old.

    1. Re:Which one? by arctan1701 · · Score: 1

      either way, it costs more than a a nice home and it doesn't even have a bathroom!!!!!1!!q

  43. Of course... by tlambert · · Score: 1

    ``"Computer, what are the nearest sources of gold-pressed latinum" yields no results, for me.

      Well there's your problem. You asked it for sources of GPL, not where you could acquire it.''

    Of course, with GPL, you do get the sources... (badda-bing).

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