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My Dream App For the Mac

Steve Streza writes "My Dream App, a Mac contest in search of the next killer app, features Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, Apple evangelist Guy Kawasaki, and Xbox and zune creator J. Allard as guest judges for its final round. Visitors can vote for their 3 favorite app ideas, and receive free licenses to both Overflow 2 and the Apple Design Award winning PhotoPresenter. Voting is open until Tuesday at 8:00 PM EDT, at which point the three winners will be announced. The winners, who will have emerged from an initial pool of more than 2,700 entrants, will see their app idea realized as a Mac shareware application and earn royalties on sales. "

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  1. No teledildonics? by bobalu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sheesh, you call those choices? Give the people what they really want!

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    1. Re:No teledildonics? by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Give the people what they really want!

      Software that's free, not shareware?

    2. Re:No teledildonics? by DittoBox · · Score: 2, Informative

      Free, or gratis? There's some really nice OS X software out there, it's all Shareware though. I'd love to see some really high-quality, OS X native (F?)OSS. There a few out there though. Some goodies include, Adium, Colloquy, Smultron and Cyberduck. I just wish skEdit were Free though.

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  2. Hmm by darkchubs · · Score: 5, Funny

    exchange a trillion dollar software idea for a legal copy of those other trillion dollar apps? Do I at least get a bumper sticker?

    1. Re:Hmm by i_should_be_working · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, and it says:

      I made Jobs (more) rich and all I got was a program and this lousy bumper sticker.

    2. Re:Hmm by s20451 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hate to point out the obvious, but if you have a trillion dollar idea, why aren't you working on it right now? And if you're just sitting on such an idea because you're lazy, risk averse, or not a good enough programmer, you may as well give it to Steve Jobs. It's doing no good rattling around in your head.

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    3. Re:Hmm by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I don't understand the reward. Is it some kind of joke? The program is released as shareware, and you get the royalties? Royalties on ... zero revenues? That kinda reminds me of the joke, "If you're gonna work me like a slave, you're gonna pay me like a slave, goddamnit!"

    4. Re:Hmm by CokeBear · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have to agree here. I have lots of great ideas, but no programming skillz.

      Any young Woz types around here? I'll be the Jobs to your Woz. (but without all the yelling, I promise)

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    5. Re:Hmm by Firehed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe the term was being used incorrectly, but I certainly remember a time (about ten years ago I'd guess) when the term freeware was never really used and everything was almost exclusively called shareware. Of course, I was about nine at the time so it could just be forgetfulness on my part.

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    6. Re:Hmm by BoberFett · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you kidding? That's what software patents are for. You can be lazy, frightened, and a terrible programmer and still make millions!

    7. Re:Hmm by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just looked the killer apps. None of them look like trillion or even million dollar ideas to me.
      At best they are cute widgets or small desktop apps.
      I mean weather on your desktop and the ultimate cookbook?
      The comment is funny but this contest looks like it might be a bit of fun. Let's face it ideas are cheap.

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    8. Re:Hmm by OakDragon · · Score: 2, Informative
      ...about ten years ago... the term freeware was never really used and everything was almost exclusively called shareware.

      The terms 'freeware' and 'shareware' of course are (and were) distinct. Our memories do agree, though. Very little was called 'freeware.' Mostly it was shareware along the lines of 'If you use and enjoy this software, please send $10.00 to...' A lot of free trials that locked you out after 30 or 60 days could be 'hacked' by re-setting your system clock to an earlier date, or by changing a config file, sometimes.

      Most freeware and software were worth about as much as you paid for them, unfortunately. I am amazed at the quality of some free software today.

  3. Come to think of it. by darkchubs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Im willing to offer up licensed copies of Linux. IF you can provide me with the next killer app.

    1. Re:Come to think of it. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny
      Im willing to offer up licensed copies of Linux. IF you can provide me with the next killer app.
      Haha, you're just making the Linux company rich, you n00b! I just get the 0-day Linux w4r3z off Pirate Bay. They are even patched to get rid of Linux Genuine Advantage, so you'll never get caught!
  4. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A shareware nag-screen remover?

  5. Re:My Dream app here by ketamine-bp · · Score: 2, Informative

    your link gives 404 =(

    try
    http://iscrybe.com/

    nice app indeed

  6. ooo another innovation contest by x-vere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems to me that more and more companies are running dry in the innovation department. I think its a combination of a few things. 1) Companies aren't listening to what consumers want. 2) Their creative talent is aging and young blood is harder to keep. 3) They're skimping on R&D money. Much lack of innovation might clear up by solving one of the three problems. I find it pretty pathetic that a company has to say to its customers, "We got nothin'. If you help us we'll give you royalties." However, at the same time. It would be fun to participate and at least there is a real payoff for the participants who win, so it isn't all bad.

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  7. Killer app? by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe if they have a contest for a 'killer app', one of the choices should actually BE a 'killer app'.

    The only ones that come close to useful is file sync and the music maker. And they're far from 'killer app' status. Nobody is going to convert from PC to Mac because it has some sync software or music, especially when other software already exists for that platform and others.

    The others are all in the 'ooh eyecandy' category.

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    1. Re:Killer app? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Funny

      ``Maybe if they have a contest for a 'killer app', one of the choices should actually BE a 'killer app'.''

      You mean like porting Reiser4 to Mac OS X? ;-)

      That might actually get it adpoted quicker than trying to get it into Linux. :-(

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  8. Pay attention before you troll. by Senes · · Score: 2

    "will see their app idea realized as a Mac shareware application and earn royalties on sales."

    I didn't even have to RTFA to spot that.

    They're getting more than a free T-Shirt, they're getting published. This is basically just making executive decisions through publicized contests instead of closed-door boardroom sessions.

  9. Re:If the royalties are right... by mios · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How exactly is Apple making money on this?

    Except for the fact that these applications are Mac applications, and are therefore run on Apple hardware, as far as I know Apple has absolutely nothing to do with this.

  10. Re:Woz is out there, man! by geoffeg · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a joke, he was joking. Woz has always been a sarcastic joker.

    BTW, he didn't "invent" the Mac.

  11. Re:Hmmmm by darkchubs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "I hate to point out the obvious, but if you have a trillion dollar idea, why aren't you working on it right now? And if you're just sitting on such an idea because you're lazy, risk averse, or not a good enough programmer, you may as well give it to Steve Jobs. It's doing no good rattling around in your head." thats what bungee cord is for. That line of thought is beside the point :) don't you think they should have ... you know real incentives rather than some cheasy licenses. maybe .. you know I hear people like money?

  12. already taken care of by krell · · Score: 4, Funny

    No doubt Apple's new cell phone offering will include vibrate mode.

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  13. Almost edible by krell · · Score: 5, Funny

    "its Indian spam"

    The curry-sauce makes it a lot easier to choke down.

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  14. A Finder with a "Refresh" button. by Illserve · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Finder needs some work; specifically, the inability to refresh and find a file that I *KNOW* makes me want to chuck it out a window.

    There are other problems too, it seems to hang sometimes, and it's very difficult to figure out the key combo that lets me empty the trash of files that are orphan-locked.

    Also, the finder can get into a state where the highlighted shortcut in the left panel doesn't correspond to the directory being displayed in the right panel. This should never happen.

    But gimme a goddamned refresh button before you do anything else.

    1. Re:A Finder with a "Refresh" button. by NMerriam · · Score: 2, Informative
      OT: question about Finder. I don't use it, but am curious if you can "pause" searches. In Windows, anyway, the searches can take hours and dog down the system to terrible slowness. If you want to do something else at decent speed, you have to kill the search (often with task manager) and start it over. No pause.


      There are command-line controls for Spotlight indexing, if that's what you're talking about. But once the initial index is done (and that usually doesn't slow down a system noticeably), you'll never need to pause a search, they're basically instant (really several seconds) for all results. The index is updated on file operations, so there's no noticeable performance decrease other than the extra milliseconds it takes to write the spotlight index when it updates a file. It's a completely different (and better) beast than Windows indexing service or search, which can take many minutes for results to be complete.
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    2. Re:A Finder with a "Refresh" button. by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Finder needs some work; specifically, the inability to refresh and find a file that I *KNOW* makes me want to chuck it out a window.

      If a Finder window needs to be refreshed, it's a bug. Actually, come to think of it, that might not be true when working on a network file server, but for local files, the Finder should always be displaying current information. When working on a file server, things can change on the server that the client isn't aware of, so yeah, some sort of refresh option would be good. Can't be Cmd-R, since that's already taken ("Show Original" for aliases). I usually use Cmd-Opt-Up, Cmd-Opt-Down.

      There are other problems too, it seems to hang sometimes, and it's very difficult to figure out the key combo that lets me empty the trash of files that are orphan-locked.

      Not being able to empty the trash sounds like another bug. Can you reproduce it? If so, file a bug report with Apple, with a list of steps needed to reproduce the problem.

      Also, the finder can get into a state where the highlighted shortcut in the left panel doesn't correspond to the directory being displayed in the right panel. This should never happen.

      I haven't run into this problem.

      I do have problems with a mounted network volume not unmounting correctly, and sometimes the icon stays in the left panel when it should disappear, or disappears when I try to unmount but the volume is really still mounted. It sounds like all these problems will get fixed in 10.5.

      But gimme a goddamned refresh button before you do anything else.

      A refresh button for network volumes would be good. But if you're having a problem with local files not showing up correctly, adding a refresh button isn't the right solution.

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    3. Re:A Finder with a "Refresh" button. by booch · · Score: 2, Informative

      To put it in UNIX terms, Mac's Spotlight is like the 'locate' command, whereas Windows Search is like the 'find' command.

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  15. Re:Woz is out there, man! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful
    know he's never been the CEO type, but for the inventor of the MAC and a former teacher, I thought this was a bit crass. I wouldn't want to publish an app with someone who thought this was an appropriate public pronouncement.
    Sorry, I don't see the crassness. Someone suggests a good app might be a "virtual plant" and, while other judges patronizingly say "Mac users would love this", he points out that a virtual plant is just plain stupid on its face. Seriously, it's a damn productivity meter that "rewards" you for being a good little worker bee by looking like a healthy plant! THe idea is that it'd encourage the slothful to work harder, but in reality only the already productive will keep the thing around, and the slothful (like me) will delete it after getting tired of looking at a dying plant reminding us that we're lazy. I think Steve was just being blunt and offering amusing ways in which such a concept might actually be appealing.

    A virtual plant? That's about as pointless as a virtual bicycle.

    (Also, it's "Mac" not "MAC", and Woz didn't create it, he created the original Apple/Apple II systems-- singlehandedly)
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  16. Project DreamApp by CmdrPorno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can see the voiceover now:

    This is the search for the next killer app...

    16 contestants. The best of them will get to show a collection of apps at MacWorld Expo, and the winner will receive $100,000 to start their own line of software and a new VW Rabbit with iPod connectivity.


    Steve Jobs, Guy Kawasaki, and Steve Wozniak will judge the contestants' performance each week in a series of challenges. Each week, there will be one winner and one loser (who gets to go home), because in the world of software design, you're either in, or you're out.

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  17. Shareware vs Freeware by sYn+pHrEAk · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you're confusing shareware with freeware.

    Shareware means there is a demo version that you're encouraged to share, but there is also a full version that you have to pay for.

    Freeware is just that: free (as in beer).

    1. Re:Shareware vs Freeware by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

      Um...I've paid for shareware. If I really like something and it saves my ass or I end up using it at least once a week, it's worth paying for. I also donate to web comics I like. Just my way of trying to nudge the universe in ways that are beneficial to myself.

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  18. Re:A (Path) Finder with a "Refresh" button. by voidstin · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mean like this?

  19. Re:Nice thinking by admactanium · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sounds like a great way to get some free ideas for applications. A lot of companies have been doing this lately. Nothing like giving away your intellectual property for free!
    except that you get a share of the revenues from shareware licenses. obviously on slashdot the idea seems completely daft since there's such a high percentage of coders here. but most people can't code an application. so if you can give up your idea (which costs you nothing in the form of labor or materials) and realize a possible profit from someone else's programming labor, then where's the bad deal? it's certainly easier than researching and hiring a programmer when you have no expertise in the field at all while taking a financial risk in the form of payment for that programmer. maybe you should look at it from the perspective of the people for whom the contest was designed. no decent programmer in their right might would submit an application to this process because they could do it themselves.

    if there was a contest where you were asked to give up an idea for, say, a chance to win a year's worth of professional retouching, it would be a great idea for people who would value that service. for me, as a graphic designer and retoucher, it's obviously not worth it to give up IP to gain something i could easily do on my own to a higher standard. but i'd at least recognize that it's a useful prize to some people.
  20. Re:The assimilation of Apple users is near complet by Rational · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah, that's pretty weak. Read John Dvorak's columns to learn to troll Mac users successfully.

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  21. My take on the choices... by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Atmosphere
    Put the weather on your desktop.A virtual window to the outdoors for your desktop. View a virtual representation of your area's weather when too busy to go outside.

    Too bust to go outside? WTF? Look out the window you lazy sow! NOT a killer app - more of a stupid idea, along the lines of Segway

    Blossom
    A virtual plant that responds to productivity, not sunlight and water. Had a good session in Excel? Your plant will thrive. Play too much Warcraft? Expect some withering.

    Suck great steaming tourdes out of the boss's ass? Instant rainforest. Write 3000 lines of code? A garden of flowers? But what if all the code is crap? Does Blossom do QA? A REALLY bad idea, and impossible to properly implement. Blossom is fascism with a happy face - "here come the suede denim secret police! ... California! Uber Alles!"

    Whistler
    Music creation has never been this easy or fun. Ever had the urge to create a song until you realized it was harder than it was worth? With Whistler, just whistle, hum, or tap out your creation into music app importable form.

    Now THIS is a cool thing - a REAL application that empowers people to do something they never could before. Albeit, if you're a tone deaf couch potato with no sense of rhythm, you will have a somewhat tougher time. But basically, this idea has actual use value compared to the previous ideas.

    Cookbook
    The ultimate cookbook application, with online grocery shopping, thousands of recipes, Leopard voiceover technology integration, shopping list sharing, and more.

    This is a sort-of-cool idea. I don't think it has quite the scope and brilliant of Whistler, but this is something I could actually almost use... IF I were stupid enough to put a computer in the kitchen... DOH!

    Portal
    File syncing from the future. Sync folders and documents between Macs effortlessly and watch transfer progress through a cool, highly visual wormhole user interface.

    If I needed to sync a bunch of macs together, I guess this would be useful. However, most Mac owners I know have ONE (perhaps 2) macs. Heck - I have two. But I also have three or four PCs floating around chez Spoilsport. If it could co-ordinate them too, then I'd be impressed... as it is, this comes under "A Really Good Idea" but not "Killer App".

    so, I would rank them as follows:

    1. Whistler - good stuff! A - A-
    2. Portal - not bad - useful! B+
    3. Cookbook - Pretty good, as soon as I get the olive oil cleaned out of my powerbook. B-
    4. Atmosphere - stupid idea with marginal use for quadraplegics who wonder what they're missing. C
    5. Blossom - an actively Bad Idea. F

    RS

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    1. Re:My take on the choices... by superflippy · · Score: 2, Informative

      You left off the one app of the bunch that I thought was really useful: Hijack.
      Hijack is a full-featured Message Board app. Most people visit myriad message boards spread all over the internet. This will be the a forum user's answer to RSS.

      I am one of those people who regularly participate in several different message boards. It would be awesome to have a better way to keep up with them all, especially for forums that move very fast (I make a post at 5 PM and by 9 AM the next day it's on the 4th page) or slow (it takes a week for someone to respond to my post). I also like the idea of being able to archive threads.

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    2. Re:My take on the choices... by Khomar · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Cookbook
      The ultimate cookbook application, with online grocery shopping, thousands of recipes, Leopard voiceover technology integration, shopping list sharing, and more.

      This is a sort-of-cool idea. I don't think it has quite the scope and brilliant of Whistler, but this is something I could actually almost use... IF I were stupid enough to put a computer in the kitchen... DOH!

      That was my first thought as well until I saw the following in the writeup:

      Then, to cook with the ingredients, Cookbook's assisted full-screen mode will allow you to follow recipes on your MacBook from across the kitchen. Use the Apple Remote to navigate through recipes, or if your hands are too dirty, voice recognition will take its place so you'll never have to touch a key.

      If done right (and all of the screenshots look good), this could very well be the recipe software that a lot of us have been looking for. Of all of the apps, this one really makes the most sense since it is so well designed and feasible.

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  22. Re:I want more Lesbian Strapon porno. Details here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your links did not work. Can you post them again?

  23. Re:A (Path) Finder with a "Refresh" button. by generic-man · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dear God, not like that. I have a 1024x768 display and I don't want to devote all of it to a file browser. The last time I used an environment like that it was called DOSSHELL.EXE.

    I just want to hit CMD+R and see a Finder window refresh. Windows has supported a "refresh" shortcut in Windows Explorer (F5) for many years. I don't expect to install a gigantic piece of $35 shareware to get such a simple feature, but that seems to be the norm on Mac OS X these days.

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  24. How about MythTV... by psicat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The total MythTV suite (back+front) or a FrontRow with PVR features. Windows MCE is just kicking Mac ass on this one. I wish Apple would hurry up... and please don't talk to me about EyeTV.

  25. It'd be neat to see this for linux.. by magnwa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I seriously wish someone would do something like this for linux.. or offer some "idea bank."

    I know plenty of programmers who are looking for decent ideas who just , through the harshness of their day jobs, don't have much time or desire to go home and repeat the process of spec design /etc.

  26. The losers... by mypalmike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The winners ... will see their app idea realized as a Mac shareware application and earn royalties on sales.

    The losers will see their app idea realized as a Mac shareware application, minus the whole royalty thing.

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  27. Re:ipod by salzbrot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, man. And I am stuck on linux because I really need to run Word and there is no WINE for windows yet. Dang it!

  28. Re:Woz is out there, man! by Speare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's kinda sad, actually.

    Two months before I heard of this, I thought it would be cute to make an iBonsai program. Screensaver-simple, as one of these judges said. A bonsai tree with a variable time scale, from 1x to 20x. Lets you snip twigs or pinch buds to control the overall growth direction, replace the pot when it get large enough, watch it grow under different seasons, and that's about it. There are dozens of tree varieties that work well in bonsai, but it's a bit fussier than practical for those of us who don't have a green thumb or the proper humid environment.

    Killer app, NO WAY. $5 shareware cute product, for some people, yes. Less manic than a Tamagotchi, but the same basic idea.

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  29. Condemn copycats? by Rob_Warwick · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This paragraph out of their FAQ annoys me:

    Okay, maybe you guys aren't going to steal my idea, but what about other people? If I'm a finalist and my idea is online for everyone to see, couldn't anybody potentially steal it?

    Technically, yes. Unscrupulous developers could do just that. But if it comes to our attention that someone is pilfering ideas from our contestants, then we will do everything in our power to publicize and condemn their actions. And if any copycat apps do surface on the open market, we have faith that the Mac community will do the right thing and not subsidize plagiarism.

    Ultimately, we cannot offer any guarantees about the security of your ideas, but it's a chance that we are willing to take. Remember, we have just as much to lose as you do.

    As it's been said, only a couple of the finalists are horribly innovative applications. Do they actually propose to try and publically shame the next guy who comes out with a cookbook app?

    (Yes, for the record, I am playing around with an implementation for someline like one of the apps on the list. It's far from the same application they're proposing, but it's similar enough in overall theme that they might try to 'condemn my actions' and claim copycat. I think I've got a decent app in development, but it puts a damper on it knowing that if it gets popular enough I'm going to have these folks screaming 'he stole the idea'.)

  30. Free Mac SW by Lactoso · · Score: 3, Informative
    There's some cool non OSS software that's free though - Onyx and QuickSilver immediately come to mind (although there are many, many more).

    For OSS Mac stuff, a good guide is OpenSourceMac.

  31. Killer. . ? Not until we have AI and transporters by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Let's see now. You need to make a piece of software which will allow people to do what they want to do. So let's list it all. . .

    People want to write. So we have word-processors. Check.
    People want to make pictures, both moving and static. So we have graphics manipulators.
    People want to make sounds and music. We have software to serve in this capacity.
    People want to do complex maths and book-keeping. Done.
    People want to amuse themselves. Games. Done.
    People want to communicate. Again, done. We call it the 'internet'
    People want to spend money. Yup. Done that.
    And people want the construction software to be able to program all of the above. Done, done, done!

    So what's left?

    People also want to eat, sleep, transport themselves and have sex.

    Well, until you can make a food replicator, the eating thing is probably not going to see a revolution any time soon through computers. Sleep is pretty much automatic, (thank-goodness!), I guess there's aviation and transport technologies software already, so that's another done thing, (though GPS was sort of cool). --And I guess you could arguably say that sex has been amply covered by the net already.

    So what's left? What need is this new killer app going to fill?

    I suppose you could do one of the above things better, more integrated, with prettier colors. The iPod was a good example of re-packaging existing technology. Yay for Jobs.

    And realistically, re-packaging existing ideas is all that's left, (until a genius comes along and shows us all wrong, of course.)

    Google was one of those. --They gave us a way to effectively search through all the mountains of stuff generated by all the people scurrying to fill all the nooks and crannies created by the main list of things we wanted computers to do.

    So what haven't we done yet?

    What do we want to do?

    AI is a big one. It's not here yet. (Thank goodness!)
    Mind-reading hardware and software. There could be a future in that, but it's a bit far off, and again, thank-goodness for that!

    Thinking more realistically, Video on Demand in whatever form it eventually takes will probably be big. YouTube offered us a glimpse of that, but it wasn't exactly an app. Maybe Apple or somebody will rig a system where all the currents of money and data flow according to the approval of the power-brokers of the media and hardware universe. That's clearly in the works right now.

    But really. . . What's left? What do you really wish your computer could do that it can't do already?

    Maybe it's like the typewriter. It's done. Anybody can now type. Maybe what it comes down to is people focusing less on the tools themselves and more on their getting down to the hard work of actually using them.

    Just a thought.


    -FL

  32. Re:Woz is out there, man! by SteveWoz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have never in my life used an illicit substance. I have made up jokes on many occasions and not turn out good.

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  33. Re:A (Path) Finder with a "Refresh" button. by voidstin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To each their own, i guess. I love path finder on my 12inch powerbook (also 1024x768). The tabs are fantastic, and the shell drawer is nice for quick shell work w/o even having to open a terminal. Filter by name is great too, and much faster than spotlight. Real permissions info, custom colors + transparency,secure delete, etc etc. It fixes most of my gripes about the finder (including this one) and the UI is customizable, and is actually fairly similar to the finder UI. In most cases, the features it duplicates, it does in less space...

    That said, I agree with your main sentiment that cmd-r should work in the finder (or the finder should jsut plain old work as someone else pointed out.)

    As for not installing shareware, isn't that what this whole article is about? If you're happy with windows explorer, stick with that. Personally, I'll take path finder (or the regular finder, or a sharp stick in the eye) instead.

  34. Re:Woz is out there, man! by monoqlith · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just my luck. The one time I falsely accuse a towering figure of 20th century technology of using drugs, he's actually reading my comments.

    Sigh.

    Is there nowhere that I can turn where I can safely slander people?