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The Tale of Seanbaby and Uwe Boll

1up is hosting a piece by EGM funnyman Seanbaby about his sordid altercation with Uwe Boll. "Uwe was going to promote his publicity stunt on G4's Attack of the Show by boxing one of the hosts. Again, he's a matchmaking genius, because everyone on TV is 3 feet tall. If you were watching Attack of the Show during the time I cohosted, you might have noticed that I could have leaned over and eaten host Kevin Pereira. A producer from the show remembered this and called me asking if I'd come on and fight Uwe. I train in Muay Thai and jujitsu, so I think boxing is to fighting what Hungry Hungry Hippos is to fighting, but--holy crap!--I couldn't pass up getting my fist near the mouth that shouted 'action' on the set of House of the Dead."

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  1. Slightly old by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Informative

    This article was in (I think) last month's issue of the EGM print mag.

    1. Re:Slightly old by ameoba · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps it is old but with lines like "I'm going to try to keep this analogy simple because I think it's important everyone understands: After you've seen two Uwe Boll movies, watching a third is like jamming a third coat hanger into your urethra. It's certainly possible, but every instinct in your body will keep you from doing it." it definately deserves to be linked.

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    2. Re:Slightly old by ClamIAm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, yesterday we got a Seanbaby article that was, like, 3 years old, so this is pretty big improvement!

  2. advantage by bladesjester · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately for our muay thai trained figther, in an actual boxing match, the advantage would lie with the boxer because of the rules involved.

    I grew up training in kung fu with cross training in Japanese and European sword arts as well as some training in muay thai, and in a match with rules, I am at a disadvantage because I have to stop my body from doing things that it's not allowed to do because of the rules. In a real life situation, however, the advantage tends to rest with me.

    It's the reason I never wanted to do tournament fighting. Instead, I got wrangled into helping train a few people who did because of my background and ability to pick apart weaknesses while turning them into advantages.

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    1. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      in this case- who cares?

      "oops! you mean i get disqualified for the 1-inch nut punch? jeez i guess i missed that rule. darnit i lost!"

    2. Re:advantage by aneurysm36 · · Score: 3, Funny
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    3. Re:advantage by Richard+Frost · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your post makes your quote all the more disturbing.

    4. Re:advantage by bladesjester · · Score: 2, Funny

      heh. I'm not much on organ meat, personally, so I think the world is safe in that regard at least.

      It's often been joked by friends that if they were to be stuck in a zombie flick that they'd want me there because with my background (and the fact that I have more than enough gear in my armory for the group of them. After close to 20 years, you accumulate a few pieces.) I'd probably be able to get us out all in one piece.

      Knowing me, however, if I got stuck in a zombie movie with a bunch of random people, I'd kill half of them up front because they're too stupid to live through the experience and would end up being an extreme liability. I'm just not the type to run after the person who doesn't want to off the brain eaters because they used to be people =]

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    5. Re:advantage by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Did you read the article? I'm not claiming to be an expert on fighting and stuff, but apparently this guy is "several weight classes" above Boll. Also, you have to take into account that Boll "supposedly" was a boxer or something, so it's pretty hard to pin down his actual level of skill (possibly negating any advantage).

    6. Re:advantage by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, I've read the article, and quite frankly, being "several weight classes" above someone doesn't always mean a whole heck of a lot.

      I've taken down other people that were significantly larger than I was. Conversely, I've also had my head handed to me by a little old chinese guy (I really miss him, he was a good teacher).

      But if you want to learn a real lesson in frightening little men, you should meet the one master blacksmith that I got to know while I was working at the forge. He was about 5'3" and looked like a good breeze would blow him away, but he could do things physically that I couldn't do at 6' tall and built like a wall.

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    7. Re:advantage by fuzz6y · · Score: 2, Insightful
      being "several weight classes" above someone doesn't always mean a whole heck of a lot.
      The hell it doesn't. Sometimes some less easily visible or quantifiable thing means more. If it didn't matter, no one would ever have endless drunken discussions over who the "best pound for pound fighter" is.
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    8. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow dude, you're pretty badass. (rolls eyes).

    9. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just use your ego to crush them?

    10. Re:advantage by Jon47 · · Score: 1

      bladesjester, I think you are still talking about your martial arts training. I am sure you are very tough but we are discussing Seanbaby vs. Uwe Boll in a boxing match.

    11. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha good one,

      colons?

    12. Re:advantage by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      This post spurs on the age old debate of the ultimate fight ever.
      Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee - if only we could see it - to the death, now that's something I'd snap up on PPV.

    13. Re:advantage by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      It was this guy wasn't it? http://www.thottbot.com/?n=272

      Yeah, he can be a real little bastard when he wants to be. Always asking for more weapons.

    14. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conversely, I've also had my head handed to me by a little old chinese guy (I really miss him, he was a good teacher).

      Well, most people realize that little old chinese guys can kick anyone's ass. Most 95-year-old, 4' 10" asian men can kick ass from someone twice their size, up to and including a small army, in fact.

      You should feel fortunate that your teacher did not rip you out of your car from 30 feet away, ball you into something the size of a golf ball, shove you up his ass, then with a raise of his prosterior and slight clench of the hips, fire you into the sun.

    15. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...in a match with rules, I am at a disadvantage because I have to stop my body from doing things that it's not allowed to do because of the rules.

      Like kick Uwe Boll repeatedly in the nuts? In that particular case I don't think it's a disadvantage. "Oops, I guess I'm disqualified for kicking you in the nuts over and over and over. Drat."

    16. Re:advantage by wheany · · Score: 1

      WOW, You're the coolest guy I've ever seen on the internet!

    17. Re:advantage by Das+Modell · · Score: 1
      TFA:
      I think boxing is to fighting what Hungry Hungry Hippos is to fighting


      Clearly he has never fought a boxer. I'm suprised that someone with a background in Muay Thai can be so ignorant.
    18. Re:advantage by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      Boxers are as hard as nails. Boxers train to take damage, and only incidentally to deal it. If life was an MMORPG they'd be the tanks.

      Boxing is a poncy silly dance with all sorts of prissy rules and pointless jumping through hoops, certainly compared to Muay Thai (where the basic rule is "stop when you've torn their head off...").

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    19. Re:advantage by Khaotix · · Score: 1

      I'm sure Uwe would be wearing a cup ... so the proper move for a muay thai kickboxer would be either
      - remove Uwe's head from his shoulders with a shin to his neck
      - clench with him then drive a knee into his face

    20. Re:advantage by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      This post spurs on the age old debate of the ultimate fight ever.
      Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee - if only we could see it - to the death, now that's something I'd snap up on PPV.


      You fool, how is Mike Tyson more ultimate than Muhammed Ali ?!? Floats like a butterfly, etc.
      And the debate rages on...

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    21. Re:advantage by pnuema · · Score: 1
      Everybody say it with me: What is rule one?

      Do not act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men.

    22. Re:advantage by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 1

      Mike Tyson vs. Bruce Lee is hardly the ultimate fight ever. Everyone knows that that honour can only go to Adam West Batman vs. James T. Kirk.

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    23. Re:advantage by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      My sifu wasn't bald, and wasn't all that wrinkly. I'd say that, at the time, he was probably in his early to mid 50's.

      He did, however, have the perpetual cheshire cat-like grin.

      He was a tough, sadistic little man when it came to training. I miss him a lot. Some of the people I've trained thought I was tough. I went easy on them by comparison, not that they'd ever believe it.

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    24. Re:advantage by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      Clearly you aren't very familiar with boxing. MT fighters have their legs, knees and elbows, but boxers are far superior at punching, and they punch hard and fast. Boxers can take damage, but their strategy is not to stand there and take punches, any more than a BJJ fighter lays down and allows himself to get armlocked.

      The MT rules you're referring to sound like the kind of stuff you'd see in Thailand, but amateur Thai boxing is not like that, as far as I know.

    25. Re:advantage by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      Fair point - I did underplay the role of damage-dealing in boxing somewhat. Nevertheless, boxers unarguably spend much more time learning how (and conditioning themselves) to take damage than most (other?) martial artists.

      "Kickboxing" (as the word is normally used) is a "softer" alternative to Muay Thai. Proper Muay Thai allows strikes with the hands, feet, shins, knees and elbows, whereas most kickboxing clubs/styles ban elbows, knee-strikes and kicks below the waist.

      And you do get Muay Thai clubs in the west, it's just (understandably) not as popular as the (less brutal, more sport-oriented) "kickboxing" style.

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    26. Re:advantage by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      Frankly, I've never heard of boxers (as a general rule) specifically training how to get hit by getting repeatedly punched in the face. Some professional boxers might do something like that.

      Boxing is limited but extremely effective, and from a self-defence point of view it's a good system because most people will try to punch you.

    27. Re:advantage by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      Really? All the boxing styles I've been exposed to emphasise frequent, full-contact sparring as a vital part of the development process.

      In contrast, not many martial arts styles do this - there are some (Muay Thai, Full-Contact Karate, etc), but they're massively outweighed by the majority that either don't spar or practice non- or semi-contact sparring. Good styles will try to edge people into this (eg, by always holding contact pads against your body, to condition you to taking blows), but many don't.

      Boxing is a very good style of self-defence in that it makes you hard to hurt... and if you can hit the other guy quickly and accurately[1] you may well lay him out with a single punch. However, from a technical point of view it's more or less a complicated dance.

      Practice boxing to build up your stamina and resistance to impact, then learn something quick and brutal like Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun or Krav Maga for actual fighting.

      Someone who was technically perfect at boxing but trained like a martial artist ("weak" repetition, semi-contact, etc) would be slit up a treat by someone who trained normally at their chosen martial arts discipline, since most martial arts have strikes and techniques that boxing simply has no answer to.

      A martial artist who trained and built themselves up like a boxer would still kick a boxer's arse, since boxing is such a fundamentally limited "martial art", in terms of strikes, blocks, throws, locks, gouges, groundfighting and the like.

      Boxing trains you to fight with above-the-waist, padded, hands-only combat. In a real fight you can be hit anywhere from the top of your head to having your instep stamped on. While boxers are scary motherfuckers because of the way they train, boxing as a martial art is technically very poor.

      [1] Harder than it looks in a real fight. Much harder.

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    28. Re:advantage by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      Really? All the boxing styles I've been exposed to emphasise frequent, full-contact sparring as a vital part of the development process.

      Well obviously, but I was referring to a form of training where you simply get punched repeatedly (because I assumed that this is what you were referring to).

      Practice boxing to build up your stamina and resistance to impact, then learn something quick and brutal like Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun or Krav Maga for actual fighting.

      Ugh. You really don't know much about the subject. Boxing is actual fighting, despite its limitations. You practise againts a live opponent with full contact, and that alone makes it more effective than any system where you don't. Besides, it's just simply an effective system.

      Wing Chun is basically the laughing stock of the MMA world. As for Krav Maga, I trained it for a year or two, and the punching and kicking was simply boxing and Muay Thai (suprise suprise). The groundfighting was lifted from BJJ.

      Someone who was technically perfect at boxing but trained like a martial artist ("weak" repetition, semi-contact, etc) would be slit up a treat by someone who trained normally at their chosen martial arts discipline, since most martial arts have strikes and techniques that boxing simply has no answer to.

      Aliveness is key. Any system that lacks aliveness is almost certainly useless or of extremely limited use. Even if a boxer trained with just a nominal amount of contact, he'd still be better off than someone who practises the Twelve Lotus Fists of Ultimate Destiny. As for techniques that boxing doesn't have an answer to, the techniques only matter if they work... I'm sure I could come up with an elaborate bullshit attack that no boxer has ever seen, but it wouldn't necessarily work. Can you come up with a punching technique that would work againts a boxer by completely bypassing all his training? You can't. There's a limited amount of ways a human can punch, and I've yet to hear of a punching art that's superior to boxing.

      A martial artist who trained and built themselves up like a boxer would still kick a boxer's arse, since boxing is such a fundamentally limited "martial art", in terms of strikes, blocks, throws, locks, gouges, groundfighting and the like.

      Depends entirely on the art. Certainly an MMA fighter (MT/BJJ in this case) is almost guaranteed to win a boxer (with no additional training) under MMA rules, but the boxer is still better at striking. Boxing is an art centered entirely on striking. That's what it does. Would it not be a good idea to learn boxing in order to learn better striking, instead of thinking "but boxing doesn't have pressure point strikes and finger locks, it's fucking useless" ? You may as well drop Muay Thai because it doesn't include joint locks and throws. You may as well stop training Judo because it doesn't have kicks. People crosstrain because they want to become more complete fighters. A boxer trains BJJ so he learns groundfighting, a BJJ practitioners learns Muay Thai so he can do standup fighting, and a Muay Thai practitioner learns boxing to improve his strikes.

      Analogy: you can access FTPs with Firefox, but most people would agree that an FTP client, while strictly limited to FTP, is far superior for that purpose. That's why they use an FTP client, instead of Firefox, even though Firefox is more versatile. This is why people train boxing when they want to learn how to punch, instead of learning some hybrid system which has a bit of everything.

      As for gouging, it's kind of overrated. A fantasy technique, almost. You see, you can't exactly poke your finger into somebody's eye if you can't even hit them in the head with a 12oz glove in a sparring match where you aren't allowed to grapple. This obvious truth escapes many people. There's also the problem of not being able to actually practise it againts a live opponent.

    29. Re:advantage by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      Whoooo, man, Someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning.

      What's so hard to understand? Boxers are hard as nails. Boxing is a poor style to fight with.

      Yes, boxers can kick and wrestle in a street fight, but that's not boxing .

      Boxing has made them very, very tough, but if they went into a fight and used boxing they'd get their arses kicked. What aren't you understanding about this?

      True, Wing Chun was possibly a poor choice to go with, but I only mention it because I know someone who trains at it, and there's a fair full-contact element to the training at his club. This might not be representative.

      You also imply Krav Maga is a poor style, and then admit it takes many of its techniques from Muay Thai, which everyone agrees isn't a bad "real" fighting style.

      BJJ is one of the most successful elements in MMA, so I have trouble believing Ju-jitsu is useless, too.

      So, one unrepresentative example and two bang on the money.

      Of course people have to cross-train to be any good as a fighter - no style is complete. Anyone who wanted to be a good "real" fighter should train in at least (B/)JJ, Muay Thai and Boxing (perhaps spiced with something like Kenpo or Aikido).

      Nevertheless, this doesn't mean boxing is a good fighting style on its own. Calm down, read again. That's my point.

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    30. Re:advantage by Das+Modell · · Score: 1
      Whoooo, man, Someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning.

      I'm annoyed because I wish these retarded myths and misconceptions would just go away, instead of repeating themselves everywhere.

      What's so hard to understand? Boxers are hard as nails. Boxing is a poor style to fight with.

      It's hard to understand because it isn't true.

      Yes, boxers can kick and wrestle in a street fight, but that's not boxing.

      Duh. Like I said, there's no mysterious force that prevents boxers from using other techniques in a real fight. What's with this constant assertion that boxers cannot do anything besides box?

      Boxing has made them very, very tough, but if they went into a fight and used boxing they'd get their arses kicked. What aren't you understanding about this?

      Yeah, sure they would. They fight better than most of the population and practise one of the most efficient forms of unarmed combat, but surely they would get their asses kicked. It must be true because your crazy dogma demands that it must be true.

      You also imply Krav Maga is a poor style...

      I didn't imply that it's a poor style.

      .... and then admit it takes many of its techniques from Muay Thai, which everyone agrees isn't a bad "real" fighting style.

      Looks like you forgot boxing. I mentioned boxing and MT. Don't try to cherry pick things.

      Nevertheless, this doesn't mean boxing is a good fighting style on its own. Calm down, read again. That's my point.

      I'm afraid it is, and your ignorant babbling will not prove otherwise. You don't even know anything about the subject, so I can't understand why you keep talking about it as if you did.
    31. Re:advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You see, you can't exactly poke your finger into somebody's eye if you can't even hit them in the head with a 12oz glove in a sparring match where you aren't allowed to grapple."

      "There seems to be this common notion that boxers are fundamentally idiots who think that street fights are exactly like boxing fights."

      Does anybody else see the irony here?

    32. Re:advantage by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      What irony? I was referring to the fact that many people think they can magically gouge when they can't even necessarily hit someone in the head with a big glove in a boxing match (where you can't grapple). Most of the people who talk about gouging are the "too deadly for the ring" guys who refuse to spar.

      What I said has nothing to do with the second sentence you quoted.

  3. Do we need to give this kid any more attention? by ProppaT · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Seanbaby has no room to talk, his attempts at comedy are just as pathetic as Uwe Bol's attempts are at making video game movies.

    Really, do we need to give this kid anymore attention. If you feel the need to point out "you're just jealous," damn right I'm just jealous. I wish I could get great gigs by making god aweful ugly webpages and having no comedic talent at all.

    Why is this news?

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    1. Re:Do we need to give this kid any more attention? by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Seanbaby has his moments. I for one liked his review of the NES game Taboo.

    2. Re:Do we need to give this kid any more attention? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I've never read a seanbaby article before, but I couldn't agree less. He's no maddox, but he's the funniest person I've read besides him on the 'net in a while. How could you not love the following paragraph?

      While BloodRayne bangs her partner against the bars, he grinds his teeth and occasionally twitches. He's so clumsy, I felt like I was watching my memories of 9th grade. "Make love to her! First, make ze funny face! Now twitch! Twitch! Now apologize and avoid ze eye contact in shame!"

      I mean if that doesn't make you laugh you were never a teenager :)

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    3. Re:Do we need to give this kid any more attention? by WilliamSChips · · Score: 0, Troll

      I'm a teenager right now and that's only mildly funny. Maddox is also barely funny.

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    4. Re:Do we need to give this kid any more attention? by Sage+Gaspar · · Score: 1

      Ya, I thought the article was pretty funny. Although maybe you have to have sat through one or more of Uwe Boll's films for the real effect. Boll is sort of a surreal character.

  4. He should have lied. by Generic+Player · · Score: 5, Funny

    Uwe lied to get his "internet critics" into the ring with him, pretending it was "just for fun" and that they would get a little boxing training first. Too bad Seanbaby didn't lie and pretend he has never fought before and weighs less than he does. I'd pay good money to see Uwe Boll get his face smashed in by anyone, but Seanbaby would probably try to pull some sweet River City Ransom moves, making it even better.

    1. Re:He should have lied. by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Funny

      BARF!

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  5. Oh dear by Attaturk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geeks + Testosterone = Tearful Ending

    1. Re:Oh dear by gt_mattex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Uwe Boll + Movie Production = Tearful Ending

      But for all the wrong reasons. :-(

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    2. Re:Oh dear by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is where the classic "Vulcan nerve pinch" becomes useful, young grasshopper.

    3. Re:Oh dear by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      And then the jock ends up bald, fat, and working at a grocery store while the geek makes a startup and it gets bought by Google, then the geek laughs all the way to the bank.

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  6. That was killed fast. by JonBovi · · Score: 0

    You'd think 1up would have a server that could take more than five minutes of Slashdotting.

    1. Re:That was killed fast. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no problem loading it. Check your furry pr0n torrents, they might be saturating your connection.

  7. Re:Bang. by Cadallin · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Depends, Just how good are you with that gun? Presumably, you mean some kind of pistol, unless you carry around a sawed-off 12-guage 24/7. Can you hit a moving target with a pistol (any kind/caiber) even at close range? Stats tend to say probably not, which gets you super dead in many kinds of situations.

    Not that I'm against guns per se, but pretending that they're some kind of superweapon that makes you invincible is outright foolish. That .45 in your coat may make you feel 12ft tall, with 8in steel ball bearings for testicles, but that sure as hell won't keep you alive when the shit really hits the fan.

  8. Re:Bang. by bladesjester · · Score: 1

    Not to mention the fact that the martial training (if you actually learn and have a teacher who knows what he/she is doing - this tends to be a bit more rare than you would think) will give you more than just the ability to hurt other people.

    Among other things it will teach you:
    How to gauge the danger of a situation.
    How to use your environment to your advantage.
    To listen to your instincts when they tell you something is off about a situation.
    To tell if the person who's giving you a hard time is packing a conventional weapon like a gun (look for telltale bulges, slightly unusual movements, etc)
    That everything has the potential to be used as a weapon.

    All of those things can save your neck.

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  9. Re:Bang. by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most martial arts now train people how to disarm a person with a gun that gets too close. Unless the gunman stays more than two metres away at all times he'll very quickly look at the wrong end of his own gun.

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  10. Re:Bang. by aztektum · · Score: 1

    I would expect the average person would freeze up upon having a gun in their grill. Questioning, at that point, whether or not the shooter is a crack shot is probably not the first thing on their mind.

    The shit may hit the ground, assuming it can find a way our their pantsleg.

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  11. Guns can be stolen. by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Martial arts skills can't. There's a reason that most martial arts weapons were originally MacGyvered from farming tools.

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  12. Wow an internet tough gyu by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    7"3 and knows muyay thai and kung fu and is a seventh level dan of balh blah.

    Seanbaby is every bit as talented as Uwe Boll is. He's the Uwe Boll of internet comedy.

    Haha fart jokes haha

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    1. Re:Wow an internet tough gyu by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      I actually think Uwe Boll is the more talented one here.

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    2. Re:Wow an internet tough gyu by DurendalMac · · Score: 1

      You missed the Holocaust joke in there. That one had me laughing my brains out.

    3. Re:Wow an internet tough gyu by Jon47 · · Score: 1

      Probably no one reading this anymore but for anyone who honestly doesn't think Seanbaby is funny, you should try reading his unedited articles on his own website, www.seanbaby.com or some of his work for www.oldmanmurray.com. I think it takes a lot more intelligence to appreciate than a fart joke but if you are seriously above the occasional fart joke then you might want to just forget about comedy altogether.

  13. Re:Bang. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suggest you try it sometime. Tell your next of kin to let me know how that works out.

  14. Re:Bang. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In normal training, if you draw a gun, you're intending to fire it. So, ideally, by the time the adversary knows you've got a gun, you've shot him twice in the chest. Most people can get their draw to first shot well under a second, figure two seconds under real-world conditions.

    Most people can't even drop to the ground in two seconds.

  15. Re:Bang. by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not to mention the fact that the martial training ...How to gauge the danger of a situation... To listen to your instincts when they tell you something is off about a situation.
    Indeed, this is the most valuable thing I got from my various martial arts training: when fighting happens, I am invariably somewhere else*. I had a Yang-Style Martial Tai Chi sifu who liked to say that the only way to really win a fight is not to get in one in the first place.

    * except when good ol' Uncle Sugar sent my reserve unit to Afghanistan, but I had very little input in that decision...
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  16. Oblig Napoleon Dynamite by emilng · · Score: 1

    "I don't even have any good skills."

    "What do you mean?"

    "You know, like...

    nunchaku skills,
    bow hunting skills...
    computer hacking skills.

    Girls only want boyfriends
    who have great skills."

  17. Re:Bang. by bladesjester · · Score: 1

    Best way to avoid an attack? Don't be there.

    Personally, I don't really like fighting. Doesn't mean that I'm not capable of it or that I'm not good at it - just that I'd generally rather be doing something else (Though I admit that I am occasionally in one of those moods. Thankfully, I have good self control and they are few and far between).

    There was one amusing moment in not fighting when I got the eternal gratitude of a bartender by breaking up a bar fight with a word and then escorting the troublemakers out the door. Call me weird, but I don't care for barflies in my beer =]

    By the by, glad you made it out in what I assume is one piece.

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    Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
  18. Now you know when you will be an adult by Alphager · · Score: 1

    The second you laugh because of maddoxx, you know that you have become a man. Geek man, but man nonetheless.

    1. Re:Now you know when you will be an adult by WilliamSChips · · Score: 0, Troll

      Only two or three of Maddox's articles are actually funny. The rest are just Howard Stern-type manufactured controversy that isn't actually very controversial. The hatemail is kinda funny but that's unintentional humor from the hatemailers.

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      Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
  19. Re:Bang. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How to gauge the danger of a situation.
    How to use your environment to your advantage.


    Those must come in real handy in suburban Ohio.

  20. Re:Bang. by Fluffy+the+attack+ki · · Score: 1

    I don't know what the gravity on your world is like, but here on Earth it is 32 feet per second per second. I bet you, yes even you, can get your feet off the ground and drop in no more than half a second, reaction time included.

    You also might want to try some force on force practice (with airsoft or something, not real guns) and just see how well drawing on an alert enemy at close range without moving works. Here's a hint: Not as well as you seem to think.

  21. Re:Bang. by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 1

    Law enforcement acknowledges a thing called the 21-foot-rule. It basicly says that if I have a handgun and I perceive you as a danger, I'm allowed to start shooting at 20-feet away.

    The rule is based on the fact that an attacker can close 20 feet before the human brain can regognize an attack and respond by firing the weapon.

    Long story short: If you have a knife (or just take an agressive martial arts stance), don't get within 20 feet of a guy with a gun; he has the right to shoot.

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    I'd rather you do it wrong, than for me to have to do it at all.
  22. Re:Bang. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The 21 foot rule is based on the time it takes you to draw a weapon out of a holster and fire two rounds at center of mass. It is not a license to kill if someone is aggressive within that range. Its a suggestion that if there is a potential threat within 21 feet then you should have your sidearm drawn, because you will be unable to get it out in time if the guy rushes you.

  23. Re:Bang. by Nephilium · · Score: 1

    Go to the wrong punch palace on a weekend night... or the wrong club, and it becomes very important...

    I live in suburban Ohio [Cleveland]... I've seen barfights that were ended when someone picked up a cigar ashtray and kept hitting someone in the head with it until it finally shattered... I've seen the aftermath of a thrown pint glass...

    It's always useful to know the situation you're in...

    Nephilium

    "The walls here are as thin as a hoofer's wallet." -- Playback (Chapter 5)

  24. Re:Bang. by rabiddeity · · Score: 1

    Very true. From a different tack, every weapon has its advantages and disadvantages, and that goes for being unarmed as well. If you carry a weapon of any kind, you need to train with it. This also means knowing and acknowledging situations where it's best not to use that weapon. A gun in close combat against a trained opponent is a liability, as any police officer can tell you. It's why police tend to have holsters that snap shut. Also, firearms in crowded spaces aren't good because even a perfect shot can keep going through your target and injure or kill bystanders. On the other hand, a trained marksman with a drawn pistol in an open area has very good odds against even multiple attackers without firearms, given a bit of distance. Of course, if you don't train you won't hit anything.

    It's best to have multiple tools in your belt, and know which is best for the situation. Know how to defend yourself unarmed (and be able to disarm opponents). Know how to fight with a blunt weapon like a stick. If you carry a firearm, know how to shoot and when NOT to use it. Finally, know when it's wisest to avoid fighting (as when unarmed and faced with a knife-wielding opponent who wants your wallet, or when faced with a well-trained unarmed opponent who is trying to kill you).

  25. Re:Bang. by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    I don't know where you live but 'round here most people draw a gun to intimidate and get them to hand over their valuables.

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    Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
  26. German government conspiracy? by ph34rtheSAiNT · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A quick glance at Wikipedia yielded some interesting figures about Boll's films:
    The House of the Dead (budget: $12 million) broke $5.73 million on opening weekend, Alone in the Dark made over $5.1 million (budget: $20 million), and BloodRayne (budget: $25 million) topped $2.42 million.
    There is also an answer to the question of how he continues to raise funding:
    'Boll is able to acquire funding thanks to German tax laws that reward investments in film. The law allows investors in German-owned films to write off 100% of their investment as a tax deduction; it also allows them to invest borrowed money and write off any fees associated with the loan. The investor is then only required to pay taxes on the profits made by the movie; if the movie loses money, the investor gets a tax writeoff.'
    Uwe Boll is a direct result of German tax policy. Looks like the Germans are having some kind of sick joke on our behalf.
    1. Re:German government conspiracy? by TheForgotton · · Score: 1

      I chalk it up to a sort of real-life The Producers. Maybe Springtime for Hitler struck a nerve somewhere in das Vaterland, so this is retribution on the American public.

  27. Re:Bang. by Calinous · · Score: 1

    Not to rain on your parade, but even if you have a gun, I can knock down with my car, and run several times over you. No need to get out. And while a shotgun could do some real damage to a car, a pistol probably won't do enough damage to save your life (even a shotgun won't do enough damage against a car coming head-on)