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The 13 Enemies of the Internet
Hennell writes "Reporters without borders has just released its annual list of internet enemies, a list of countries 'that systematically violate online free expression.' A couple of countries have been removed, but Egypt has been added. A detailed summary can be read on the BBC Website." From that article: "The blacklist is published annually but it is the first time RSF has organized an online protest to accompany the list. 'We wanted to mobilize net users so that when we lobby certain countries we can say that the concerns are not just ours but those of thousands of internet users around the world,' said a spokesman for RSF. Many of those on the internet blacklist are countries that are regularly criticized by human rights groups, such as China and Burma."
the enemy to all of t3h interwebs!!!
Oh crap......
And where is RIAAstate and MPIAcountry?
"an experienced, industrious, ambitious, and often, quite often, picturesque liar" - Mark Twain
that those Uzbek assholes are on the list. Their potassium is vastly inferior to the potassium in the great nation of Khazakistan.
Why only include countries? Why not include companies as well? Some of them are gunning for 'the Internet' either intentionally, or just as a side-effect of unethical practices.
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I spent a day there earlier this year, and could not find a single cybercafe in the place.
Where were you when the voynix came?
For the DeCSS code censorship ?
What is the status of that ?
I hope it's not applied anymore, or this smells hypocritical.
These countries are so vile...you might just say they are the Axis of e-Vile!
...Presidential... right now. Just think, ME, Karl Cocknozzle, with my own enemies list! And on Election Day to boot!
...Not sure if that's a word or not but there it is.
I feel very Nixonian right now.
Who did what now?
that makes my moving list just a little smaller
Countries which censor or curtail Internet usage (with the obvious exception of China, with its staggering size and mobility) are hardly "enemies" of the Internet - they can't attack it and expect any degree of success. Instead they're foolishly short-sighted, unable to comprehend the massive technological disadvantage any such action entails in the long run. The problem is, this usually correlates with general incompetence, which means many of these countries will become (or already are) failed states which require outside assistance.
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1. Microsoft Internet Explorer 7
2. The MPAA
3. The RIAA
4. Flash
5. Javascript
6. Pointless registration screens.
7. Content blocked for certain regions.
8. Spammers
9. Phishers
10. Senator Orrin Hatch
11. Nigeria (I mean, come on, how many millionaire spam scams emails have you ever gotten from Belarus or Burma?)
12. Senator Ted. "Tubey" Stevens
13. Bears (Not sure on this one, but Colbert insisted it belonged here)
Where were you when the voynix came?
"First of all, it's Myannmar, not Burma"
For one who is so particular, you mispelled "Myanmar". Burma is actually a legitimate name to call the nation, even if it is not the single "official" name.
Where were you when the voynix came?
(I can't read the linked article - it appears to be blocked by the Great Firewall of China)
Speaking of the Great Firewall of China, I guess we can't criticize what we do now know, right?
FTA: Iran today boasts of filtering 10 million immoral websites.
/sarcasm
Seems like a great place to raise a child!
What the hell's a "gewie?"
They're probably calling it Burma in protest of the military government there, one of whose changes was the name. It's not uncommon. For example, this non-crank author does it.
And I seriously doubt "human rights groups" put "profiteering" on the same level as e.g. torture and racism. Where are the human rights protests over Microsoft?
Apology to Ubuntu forum.
You're just trolling by asking about the US, but Cuba is a valid one that I was going to question myself. At the recent UN summit on internet access, it was alleged that "Zero percent of Cubans are connected to the Internet because of the censorship hold that the authorities there have over their people.
Oh, and wandering why you are sitting naked in your office, with door wide open, if you don't want to be seen in such state of undress by happy men ;-)
Or are you happy yourself?
Anecdotal evidence, but...
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Recently on USENET, on comp.lang.c++, there was a post by someone claiming to be from Cuba, with a
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
If anyone here knows the UK's Channel 4 series 'Fr Ted', then lemme say this: this list reminds me of fr Noel Furlong priest when he goes to put Tony on his little 'list of enemies'. I guess you had to be there at the time,
Funny funny show
When the posters fear their moderators, there is tyranny; when the moderators fears the posters, there is liberty.
With the exception of Burma (which has long been a pariah military dictatorship), all the countries are either ruled by a communist party (or direct sucessor) or they are from an islamic culture.
Cuba is a great place where every citizen is taken care of. It is the exact opposite of the US under Bush. What is the point of your hateful troll? To show just how little you understand about Cuba?
The United Nations, because censorship will be world-wide if it does get control of the Internet.
Okay, I fully accept that I'm going to be modded off-topic, too, but...
Who are we supposed to vote for? Bush is out of office no matter what we do, and you can bet the 2 running for office will be about equals in terms of good and bad. There's no other -serious- contenders out there.
In short: You're wasting your breath. Go away.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
I've not yet seen anyone argue that the US is currently worse than China. I've seen the occasional moral relativist argue that it isn't possible to judge the Chinese government, but that isn't the same position to take, and in any case few people these days take moral relativism very seriously.
What I have seen argued is that the US is slipping. What gives most Americans the high ground when comparing the US government to the PRC's? The fact that the latter espouses censorship, torture, invasion of privacy, strongarm military policies, and general human rights and due process violations. Americans are protected by the constitution and a multitude of checks and balances. Erosion of those protections is the concern.
If the US loses that high ground, you've got a problem. Do you really want your country to only be no worse than China? It would be one thing if that meant that the Chinese government had decided to treat its citizens better, but it's quite another if the US drops down to their current level of rights.
America isn't there yet, not by a long shot, and the constant cries of "OMG, Orwell" do grow a little tiresome, but the underlying concern is completely valid. It is easier to protect your rights in the here and now than it is to try and fight for them once they're gone.
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Cuba is a great place where every citizen is taken care of. It is the exact opposite of the US under Bush. What is the point of your hateful troll? To show just how little you understand about Cuba?
My only question, El Presidente, is where you sent that post from, since your nation has no internet.
Belarus? Egypt? Tunisia? Cuba? ... Go, buy a new globe!
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Dude, China says they don't censor the Internet. This list is bogus! Down with the Man!
you may act unethically, however doing so will cause a large number of people or organisations with more moral fiber to cease doing business with you.
Hello! May I be the first to welcome you to our planet. You may find things here a little unsettling, coming from your obviously very advanced civilization and culture; in the meantime I recommend you don't try to make sense of anything.
Oh, and be sure to try the pastrami, it's excellent here.
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Says who? I could also say that Freedom and Liberty come with no appendages whatsoever.
Well, what else do you think Fidel had to do when he was laid up?
.NET kind of guy.
Funny he'd go for C++ though. I always figured him as a C#
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
You can't ask me to elaborate on my unfounded opinions. I say things like that when people don't agree with me. It's funny how stupid you are in that respect.
Do the pyramids' get broadband, or is their wiring too old?
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I thought for sure we would be.
Kinda like the former Soviet Union under Stalin, where every citizen that still remains is taken care of?
The U.S. government recently passed the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act. In fact they snuck it in at the last minute of the legislative session by attaching it to a port security bill. The UIGEA is meant to impair U.S. citizens' ability to gamble online. This is effectively limiting the freedom of U.S. citizens to do what they want with their own hard earned money, and is ultimately restricting free trade on the internet. For that I think the U.S. should be on this list.
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"We wanted to mobilise net users so that when we lobby certain countries we can say that the concerns are not just ours but those of thousands of internet users around the world," ... Many of those on the internet blacklist are countries that are regularly criticised by human rights groups, such as China and Burma.
Hmm. Let's see what the tradeoffs for China are in this situation.
On one hand, they have total control of 1 billion human beings if they control what they read, hear, and say.
On the other hand, they have a few thousand people whom they can ignore simply by not reading some web page.
I dunno man. Those few thousand people hold a lot of power over the guy who weilds more power than any other person on earth. They might even be able to hurt his feelings and make him look bad to the people who he's controlling, if only he doesn't censor the internet...
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Reporters Without Borders is the organization that keeps downgrading the US on "press freedom" because the US government seems to think that journalists aren't above the law. By its past behavior, they're much more likely to be spreading anti- rather than pro-American propaganda.
Believe it or not, just because somebody doesn't always call the US the ultimate evil doesn't make them a mouthpiece for the White House.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
"Belarus? Egypt? Tunisia? Cuba? ... Go, buy a new globe!"
I'm almost willing to spot him Egypt. The Sinai is sometimes, but not usually, considered to be part of Asia, since it is at the continental split.
Where were you when the voynix came?
Zing!
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Obviously the poster lives in one of the 13 countries. I managed to get ahold of the uncensored version, posted below.
My fellow slashdotters, this article couldn't be more right! The censorship in China is known by everyone, and is largely effective. It's the absolute truth. Freedom and liberty are severly curtailed in China, anyone that speaks out against the government is rounded up and never heard from again. Sorry, I must go now. It took a bit of doing to get past the firewall to even read the slashdot article, but surely they'll plug the hole soon enough.
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You think we're slipping? Maybe, but consider our past: black slavery, Red Scares, HUAAC, "separate but equal", Prohibition, and on and on. I think the US is arguably freer than any time in its past. But if you think more clearly-written federal guidelines on the ability to subpoena library records and similar changes are at all comparable to our past, then I guess you're right.
...following the principles of Heisenburger's Uncertain Cat...
There's not a word about Elbonia.
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I would like to apologize to all the Germans for calling their country Germany (Deutschland). I would like to also appologize to the citizens of Japan (Nihon), Vienna (Vien), Cologne (Koln), Rome (Roma), Bombay (Mumbai), Lisbon (Lisboa), Warsaw (Warszawa), and Leghorn (Livorno). I would also like to apologize to the Dutch (Nederlanders). Please accept my apology on behalf of all English speaking peoples everywhere for using perfectly proper english names for your countries, people, languages, and cities when speaking English. I shall henceforth brush up on my Japanese, Hindi, German, and Polish, and every other languange in the world so I can refere to you in your native language, even when speaking my own.
How far back do you want to compare? I'd fully agree that the United States of the 1950's was less free than the US of today, but that isn't the point. To take an arbitrary point in time and say "it was worse then" tells you very little about what progress is being made now. Likewise, to take an oppressive totalitarian regime like the PRC and say "it's worse over there" (an argument I see all too often here) doesn't tell you what it's like at home.
To reverse the situation, is the US as of 2006 a freer place to live than the US of, for instance 1990? Is the US a freer country than other western democracies? These two examples illustrate what's wrong with the argument; you can cherry pick any place or era that was worse, or better, to make the current situation look good or bad by way of comparison. For the record, I don't think that the two comparisons I just listed are valid ones, but they are no less valid than your own.
And your examples are frankly a little dated. Red scares? The cold war is long over, and the worst deprivations of civil rights were done by people like McCarthy 40+ years ago. That's history. Slavery? That's been gone for almost a century and a half. Yes, it was indeed worse before, much worse, but it could stand to be better. And the current erosion of rights goes a little bit farther than "library records".
Erotic is when you use a feather. Exotic is when you use the whole chicken.
If this passes, next year Brazil will make it into the list!
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Americans are protected by the constitution and a multitude of checks and balances.
You've got to be kidding. If the constitution was honored as intended by the founders, the US federal government would less than 1/10 the size it is today, measured both in revenue and power over the people.
As it stands, the US federal government is the most expensive, most powerful government and world empire this planet has ever seen. If the constitution were honored, that kind of growth wouldn't have been remotely possible.
Of course, the constitution is still good for one thing: lip service. And that's exactly what it gets.
And how well they're taken care of indeed!
You disable the right-click LOL. What a toolish website.
It's easy to take tough stands and be completely clean and truthful when nobody listens to what you say anyway.
I read the internet for the articles.
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Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again.
An enemy means you oppose the device. Reading this list I don't see many that are "we will destroy the internet" (though I'm sure that's they don't love it) This appears more to be enemy of free speech or radical thinking, which winds up with censorship of the internet.
I am not from USA
And yet you begin with dear fellow Americans? I don't think it means what you think it means. As for the election, pay no attention to the ill informed "progressives" who believe if the Dems take control of the US Congress it will usher in the age of Aquarius. Trust me, Nov. 8, the factions in Iraq will still be fighting for power, Darfur will still be a disgrace, and entitlement spending will still be heading towards a major meltdown. To quote the Who, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
I laughed at the weak who considered themselves good because they lacked claws.
In case you hadn't noticed, there is a heavy overlap between this list and the infamous US "axis of evil" list. ... Thumbs down on clumsy propaganda.
Or, in other words, "-1, Doesn't Compare Bush to Hitler".
As everyone knows, Reporters Without Borders is practically a G.O.P. front group. Those guys are nothing but lock-step, Republican, neocon fascists, all the way.
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Actually, it is the point, because the question wasn't, "Is the US sufficiently free today?" but "Is the US slipping?" If we're slipping, then that means we must be worse than we used to be. I argue that we are not slipping, and use past data points to illustrate. It's certainly possible that we are "slipping" on a relative scale, in the sense that the enormous lead in freedom over, say, continental Europe that we enjoyed in the early 19th century no longer exists. But this is to the credit of Europe, not to the detriment of the US.
...following the principles of Heisenburger's Uncertain Cat...
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
For every email you send from Yahoo mail, the IP address from where you sent is is disclosed to the receiver.
Now, I am not in any way defending Yahoo's reprehensible conduct in China, but the behavior that you describe regarding IP addresses in mail headers is the way things are supposed to work. The address of the originating machine should be listed as the first of the 'Received' headers. This just makes sense -- it's not "Yahoo" that's sending you the message, they're just passing it on behalf of some other person.
Webmail isn't supposed to automatically be an anonymizing service. It's unfortunate that many people aren't aware of this, and don't understand that many things they consider 'private' on the net are really anything but; however Yahoo shouldn't be faulted for acting according to accepted RFCs and protocols.
There are plenty of anonymous email systems out there for all your remailing needs; Yahoo Mail, Hotmail, and GMail are not the tool for the job.
Now, there is a very good argument somewhere in here, for mandating that ISPs either not create, or immediately delete after a short period of time, all their logs that could be used to cross-reference actual people to IP addresses. This would effectively create anonymity at the IP address level. However, since this is not the case, users should seek privacy higher up in the stack, at the messaging-system (application) level, by choosing the correct tool for communication.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
True, but my counterpoint still stands. Is the US today freer than it was before the DMCA, PATRIOT act, warrentless wiretapping, etc? Do those not constitue "slipping"?
If you choose to compare the US of a decade or so ago with the US today, then yes, it is slipping. Compare it to the US of the McCarthy era and it's progressing. It's all in what point of reference you use to compare it to.
Which is exactly why I said that cherry picking an era to make the current state of affairs look better or worse isn't a useful measure. All you can look at is the current state and the current trend, and reasonably speaking, things are indeed deteriorating. It isn't about what things were like five years ago, or fifty, but what they're like now, and where they're headed. Better to stem the tide now and undo the damage done than wait for it to get worse.
You'll note that I specifically focused on those things that directly affect US citizens, and that I included the DMCA (which predates the current administration). This isn't a partisan issue, nor is it a foreign policy one, though both play a role; this is a more generalized civil liberties issue.
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I voted Republican across the ballot!
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Where are the human rights protests over Microsoft?
Here:
More links here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=windows+refun d+day&btnG=Google+Search
Though, it appears of late that the movement has lost steam. Apparently George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong Il are trying to distract the world from Microsoft's barbaric actions.
Please don't be obtuse. The term 'American', used the world over refers specifically to citizens and residents of the United States. People don't refer to Mexicans, Canadians, Columbians, etc. as Americans, nor do those people refer to themselves that way either.
All the techniques ever used to make men moral have been themselves thoroughly immoral... (Nietzsche)
Let's try again, kid. Those don't look like "HUMAN RIGHTS PROTESTS"; they look like people griping about software sales contracts. See sig.
Apology to Ubuntu forum.
You are mistaken. When it comes to elections - whether they are in Mexico or in the USofA, we are ALL Americans. Your decisions affect us. Our decisions affect you.
Perhaps you should pay a bit more attention to the theme of the original poster, as I believe that he was trying to help you to understand that very point.
Let's try again, kid. Those don't look like "HUMAN RIGHTS PROTESTS"; they look like people griping about software sales contracts. See sig.
Sorry. I forgot the <SARCASM> tags.
Oh, sorry, I'm bad at that :-/
Apology to Ubuntu forum.
I paid very close attention to the parent post. If he was trying to make the point you assign him, he didn't do a very good job, as it came off simply as a pedantic point about the names of continents and the countries they contain. Nevertheless, if that was the intended point, you will find little disagreement from me; obviously decisions one place affect people in others, and American decisions tend to have a disproportionate impact relative to many other countries due to its relative economic and military power, and so people from other countries have the right and the responsibility to be concerned about the decisions America makes.
All the techniques ever used to make men moral have been themselves thoroughly immoral... (Nietzsche)
From the Article: Iran today boasts of filtering 10 million "immoral" websites. Pornographic sites, political sites and those dealing with religion are usually the ones most targeted.
Judging from my spam filter, 10e^6 seems like it wouldn't even cover all the porn sites.
Um, shouldn't this comment be applied to the poster I was responding to? I was defending the use of the alternate term.
Of course, even that poster wasn't criticizing the use of a term different from what natives call the country; he was criticizing the use of a term different from the one natives (well, the government there) ask English-speakers to call it.
Apology to Ubuntu forum.
OK, I think we mostly agree, but we're assigning different levels of importance to different facts on the ground. Fair enough.
...following the principles of Heisenburger's Uncertain Cat...
Sorry.. I wasn't addressing you personally. I just find the entire line of conversation preposterous.
Robin Williams tried that. The voting machines glitched and elected him even though that shouldn't've happened.
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
What? No Canada, No Germany, no France and no Brazil? But Belarus, only because a couple of websites "mysteriously disappeared" (most likely, done by the American-paid so-called "opposition" itself)?
They forgot Goldstein.
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He's using an open wireless node in Miami. Hey, he runs his own country, he can use amps and antennas as big as he wants.
There are a relatively small number of Cubans (vis-a-vis China or Russia) who list themselves on dating (and "dating") web sites and who also have IM addresses. I got the impression one could easily arrange for an escort or other companionship should one decide to include Cuba on their vacation itinerary.
As do the decisions of citizens of Spain and France, but that doesn't make them Americans.
The purpose of language is to convey understanding; if your words are consistently misunderstood, then you're using the language incorrectly. If you use the word "American," people will almost invariably understand you to mean a citizen of the United States of America. If that's not your intention, then you should consider using a different word instead. That's not to argue the "correctness" of your statement, but rather point out that the message you're trying to convey will be lost in the confusion that you generate because of your ill-advised word choice.
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RFC 1925
Reporters without borders get paid by the CIA. In consequence, it have no credibility at all. http://www.voltairenet.org/article127688.html
The person in the original uses English as a second language. You cannot properly interpret a message without taking into consideration the origin of the poster. To do otherwise is simply myopic.
"Ich bin ein Amerikaner"
Free as in mason.
It gets especially silly when they get into pronunciation. Is Qatar "cutter", "cotter", "gutter", "catarrh", or one of the variations that can't even be spelled out using ordinary English letters? This is important, people. We need the one true proncunciation so that Wolf Blitzer doesn't feel stupid when reading the teleprompter.
Nice troll moderation, except when you think that all of those countries listed here are in the UN, and some of them have a lot of power and a history of getting on commissions where the don't belong. China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia and Tunisia (all on this list) are currently sitting on the UN Human Rights Council despite rules meant to keep countries with a policy of human rights abuses from being members. You can bet that China and one or more of the others will be on any Internet Governance Council in the future, and they will be deciding what speech is allowed.
It's a good bet that European countries will be on the council, and their legal philosophy is that "hate speech" is not allowed, even if it is valid criticism.
Even the United States may be on that council, and you know how we are about freedom of speech when it comes to programming code (DeCSS and crypto exports).
Basically, the semi-anarchy we have now is quite necessary in order to ensure freedom of speech on the Internet.
Go ahead, moderate me troll again for telling the truth. I've got karma to burn. However, I believe that since I criticized the US in this post it won't be moderated as a troll.
The cold war is long over, and the worst deprivations of civil rights were done by people like McCarthy 40+ years ago.
Hi, welcome back from your multi decade nap, hope it went well for you.
As you clearly know nothing about recent events, allow me to bring you up to speed.
Recently Congress passed and the president signed a bill that allows the president to have any American citizen shipped away to a death camp to be tortured and murdered solely upon his whim with no possibility of recourse to the law.
So sorry, we are in a far worse position civil (or otherwise) rightswise than at any time in the entire history of this nation.
The McCarthy era was *nothing* compared to the oppressive power of the current government, the lack of transparancy, or the complete lack of any oversight whatsoever.
There's no comparison.
...But you can't hold a whole political party responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole party system? And if the whole political system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our government institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
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Why would you assume I'm in Cuba or even Cuban? I'm just someone that has spent several years in Cuba and several years in the US. I see how the US has become a police state. I see how the Republicans have destroyed every freedom you people ever had. I see people that hate life and want to kill others simply because they don't want to live themselves. I see people that are so violent that they think they have the right to own a gun! A gun! There are many people in the US that even own weapons of war. Here in Boston there are murders every single day. When I was in Cuba, I don't remember hearing about a single one. In Cuba I saw a few people driving less than safely, but the roads here in Boston are a terror. You can tell the vast majority of people have no respect for life by the way they drive.
Shut up troll.
I guess that depends whether you look at what else happens during significant press events.
Politicians and corps tend to make interesting moves while the public is distracted. Outrage over "terrorism", "human rights violations", and "think of the children" issues hold the public attention away from other issues. With the right emphasis and spin, they get used to justify actions that the public would normally object to.
Given the track record on proving WMD, exagerration of China's human rights issues, etc., I tend to consider the various "watch" lists as indicators of who is being pressured next. They're not necessarily honest assessments of risks or evil intent, but they set the stage for further aggrandizement.
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Maaaybe, but there are a lot of people showing enough support that the Libertarian Party is listening and his message is simple and easy to understand.
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