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Democrats Take House, Senate Undecided

Every news publication on earth is saying mostly the same thing. The Democrats have taken the house picking up a sizable number of seats. But the Senate remains a tossup with a few undecided seats holding the balance. Concerns of voter fraud have been heard from around the nation as well.

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  1. Will they be able to make things better? by Rix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or just keep them from getting worse.

    1. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by toupsie · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Or just keep them from getting worse.

      Nothing will get done. Bush still has the VETO stamp. Its been sitting in his desk draw barely used for the last 6 years. I am sure it is going to get a major workout in the next two. This is not a bad thing, government is best when it does least.

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    2. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Will they be able to make things better? Or just keep them from getting worse.

      They're democrats, not magicians.

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    3. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bush still has the VETO stamp. Its been sitting in his desk draw barely used for the last 6 years.

      Unfortunately it's been sitting in there next to his stack of signing statements which HAVE been heavily used over the last 6 years.

      If nothing else, maybe the new Congress will actually put this signing statement bullshit in check.

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    4. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by bhima · · Score: 5, Funny

      we'd be better off relying on strange women lying in ponds distributing swords as a basis for a system of government.

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    5. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by geoffspear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, if by "draft something at the president's request" you mean "take a bill written by Executive branch lawyers and pass it without actually reading it" like they did with the Patriot Act.

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    6. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by diersing · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But you have admit, Bush has exercised leverage within the party (and thus both the house and senate) as far as which laws reach the floor for a vote and head to his desk. Just because he doesn't write them, doesn't mean he doesn't influence the process a great deal.

    7. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Only Congress can write new laws.

      It's more like: Lobbyists write new laws; congress votes for them in exchange for campaign donations.

    8. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The US government of today dwarfs the US government of only 100 years ago, both in revenue and power over the people. In fact, the US government is now the most powerful government and world empire that has ever existed in the history of organized coercion.

      Over the last 100 years, US political power has been domainated by the republicans and the democrats together. Neither party dominated by itself; they shared in the power over this period. This trend continues today in full force, as does the trend for expansion of power. Every year there are thousands more laws on the books than the year before, thousands more ways for a peaceful individual to become a criminal.

      Given this near-exponential growth of the US government, it is clear that both parties are primarily driven by power -- otherwise, why would they have fought so hard to expand their powers over the past century? If they valued the freedom of the individual more than their own power, then logically, the incredible growth of the US government over the past century wouldn't have been possible. If even one of the two dominant parties actually worked to reduce, rather than expand government power over the individual, then wouldn't they have cancelled each other out?

      Of course that's not the case. So let's answer your question: Will the democrats be able to make things better, or will they only be able to keep things from getting worse?

      You're going to have to deny history to come up with a positive answer on either count. I'll bet my life that when the democrats are finished, the US government will be (drum roll please) bigger, more powerful (measured in both revenue and power over the people), and last but not least, there will be yet even more ways for peaceful individuals to become criminals.

    9. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, the lobbyists and permanent committee staff write the laws; the elected congresscritters look at the resulting 1,200 page forest-killer and say,
      "Dude, have you got clue #1 what's in that piece of work?"
      To which the reply is: "Hey, I won't read it if you don't. That's why we have staff."
      Awful lot of power wielded by people whose names and ideology remain hidden...

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    10. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by MrCopilot · · Score: 5, Funny
      we'd be better off relying on strange women lying in ponds distributing swords as a basis for a system of government.

      How many times do I have to say this?

      Ahem...
      strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is NO basis for a system of government.

      You cannot just call yourself Senator just because some watery tart tossed a sword at you.

      I mean, if I went round, calling myself Congressman, just because some moistened bink lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.

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    11. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 4, Funny

      More likely the President tells the Congrssional leadership what he wants and they write the desired laws. Imagine how much editing would be required if Bush wrote the legislation himself!

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    12. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by ArikTheRed · · Score: 5, Informative

      Really smart actually. The congress can pass laws to their heart content, but the executive branch cannot implement them because the president has forbidden them to (so much for Bush being a stumbling moronic cretin by the way).

      He didn't invent this practice, so don't give him so much credit. Also, it is incredibly un-democratic for a single ruler to be able to manipulate the law to the extent that Bush has. Here are some sample statements he added from the Boston Globe. If these don't make your blood boil, you truely are a moron - or really believe that Bush is the incarnation of Jesus.

      March 9: Justice Department officials must give reports to Congress by certain dates on how the FBI is using the USA Patriot Act to search homes and secretly seize papers.

      Bush's signing statement: The president can order Justice Department officials to withhold any information from Congress if he decides it could impair national security or executive branch operations.

      Dec. 30, 2005: US interrogators cannot torture prisoners or otherwise subject them to cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment.

      Bush's signing statement: The president, as commander in chief, can waive the torture ban if he decides that harsh interrogation techniques will assist in preventing terrorist attacks.

      Dec. 30: When requested, scientific information ''prepared by government researchers and scientists shall be transmitted [to Congress] uncensored and without delay."

      Bush's signing statement: The president can tell researchers to withhold any information from Congress if he decides its disclosure could impair foreign relations, national security, or the workings of the executive branch.

      Aug. 8: The Department of Energy, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and its contractors may not fire or otherwise punish an employee whistle-blower who tells Congress about possible wrongdoing.

      Bush's signing statement: The president or his appointees will determine whether employees of the Department of Energy and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission can give information to Congress.

      Dec. 23, 2004: Forbids US troops in Colombia from participating in any combat against rebels, except in cases of self-defense. Caps the number of US troops allowed in Colombia at 800.

      Bush's signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can place restrictions on the use of US armed forces, so the executive branch will construe the law ''as advisory in nature."

      Dec. 17: The new national intelligence director shall recruit and train women and minorities to be spies, analysts, and translators in order to ensure diversity in the intelligence community.

      Bush's signing statement: The executive branch shall construe the law in a manner consistent with a constitutional clause guaranteeing ''equal protection" for all. (In 2003, the Bush administration argued against race-conscious affirmative-action programs in a Supreme Court case. The court rejected Bush's view.)

      Oct. 29: Defense Department personnel are prohibited from interfering with the ability of military lawyers to give independent legal advice to their commanders.

      Bush's signing statement: All military attorneys are bound to follow legal conclusions reached by the administration's lawyers in the Justice Department and the Pentagon when giving advice to their commanders.

      Aug. 5: The military cannot add to its files any illegally gathered intelligence, including information obtained about Americans in violation of the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches.

      Bush's signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can tell the military whether or not it can use any specific piece of intelligence.

      Nov. 6, 2003: US officials in Iraq cannot prevent an inspector general for the Coalition Provisional Authority from carrying out any investigation. The inspector general must tell Congress if officials refuse to cooperate with his inquiries.

      Bush's signing

    13. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least it would be pretty ... imagine how many different crayons he would use :)

    14. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um, the reason why Bush has never vetoed is that his agenda calls for expansion (not reduction) of government power, just like the majority of US politicians (republican and democrat alike) over the past 100 years. Nearly all new bills call for expansion of government power, not reduction -- that is why the US government of today dwarfs the US government of only 100 years ago, both in revenue and power over the people. That is why the US government is now the most expensive, most powerful government AND world empire in the history of organized coercion. You don't get from strictly limited constitutional government to world empire by vetoing bills.

      My point? If Bush dusts off his veto pen, it certainly won't be because the democrats are calling for expansion of power. And given history, it is quite unlikely that the democrats will be calling for reduction of power. (Of course they'll throw us a few bones here and there to give the appearance, but I guarantee that when all is said and done, government will be -- drum roll please -- more expensive and more powerful, just as it has nearly every susecutive year for the past 100 years).

    15. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by 'nother+poster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anyone can write a bill. Only a Congressman or Senator can sponsor it for submition. If it makes it through committe they vote on it, and if it passes it goes to the other house. If it passes there it goes to the President who either signs it or vetos it. If it is vetoed then the houses of congress have a chance to override the President and pass the bill into law, but it requires a 66% majority, not a simple majority.

    16. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by schon · · Score: 5, Funny

      burrocrisy

      Ahh.. and that would be what? Ruling by jackasses?

      Methinks never has a /. spelling error been more apropos.

    17. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by jcrash · · Score: 5, Informative

      You obviously don't understand what he means by a signing statement. Essentially, with every bill he has signed during his two terms, Bush has been attaching a little letter that says, "I can ignore this law whenever it suits me." Seriously, I would wager less than 1 in 100 citizens in the U.S. even know about these letters.

      This is a president with absolutely no respect for anyone other than himself and what he thinks is right, either that or someone that has been totally manipulated by some unknown group or entity into a unilateral form of government.

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    18. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by quantum+bit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I like lower taxes as much as anyone, but when the alternative is to have the economy crumble and all my cash become worthless, I'll vote for the tax.

      Granted, the correct answer is to cut government spending, but that's something that will take a lot more political muscle to pull off.

    19. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by thrillseeker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      burrocrisy

      Ahh.. and that would be what? Ruling by jackasses?


      An education system controlled by jackasses?

    20. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Bush can't write laws. He can only sign them into law or veto them. Only Congress can write new laws.
      That's so 20th Century. You haven't heard about signing statements, have you? Congress passes the law (both houses, reconciliation, etc) and then Bush get's to decide what the law really means with a Signing Statement.

      For example, the law may read "Noone in the employ or contracted by any part of the Federal governmeny may torture any person in their custody" with the usual dozen pages of verbiage defining what "custody" and "torture" mean. Then Bush writes "I will interpret the law as if noone means anyone", and signs it.

      If that's not writing new laws, I don't know what is.

    21. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by glsunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lower taxes vs lower interest rates. Hmm. Let the government take out a $2,000 loan per person per year for the population, with no one making the decisions being responsible for paying it back, or let the population decide if they want to take out a loan themselves... Which one is more responsible?

      All the government did was borrow money to inject into the economy. They didn't decrease spending, they increased it. And I'll bet that many of them got a hell of a lot richer in the process. If you want lower taxes, tell them to cut spending. If you want to cut spending, tell them to cut the thing that takes over half of the budget: the military. Guess what? That won't happen. People in the US are so brain washed that we have to control the world that they'll never let that happen. The other thing is military contracts are a sizable chunk of the US manufacturing jobs. If you cut military budget, you cut jobs in every state. That'll be real popular. It doesn't matter that if we cut the military in half, we'd still out spend everyone else and have no deficit. Plus there's the whole pride BS: Military BIG! Penis BIG! AGHHHH! Me Crush YOU!

      So, I'd say you can pretty much live with your taxes. They're never going to go down long term. You might get some short term bribes from politicians, but eventually, the bills have to be paid.

    22. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Insightful
      There's an old saying that says, if you want to get out of a hole, the first thing you've got to do is stop digging. Between Bush and the Republican Congress, America has been digging itself into hole for the past six years, on multiple fronts. Civil liberties, dismantling of checks and balances, deficits, torture, a disastrous failure in the occupation of Iraq. Hopefully, we can at least stop digging, and start finding a way out.

      But even assuming the Democrats pull together and show brilliant leadership and vision (and I'm not holding my breath), it would take years to undo Bush's damage. I think a key issue to watch is going to be Rumsfeld. It's clear his strategies have failed, repeatedly; he needs to be held accountable. And it's clear he can't fix things in Iraq. He has to go. Bush's instincts will be to protect him, because Bush rewards loyalty (a good character, to a point) and because Bush thinks that firing him would be an admission of failure, and Bush does not admit failure (but admitting failure is a technicality at this point, Rumsfeld and Bush's efforts in Iraq so far have failed utterly).

    23. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 4, Funny

      Didn't you get that memo? The one they passed around 15 years ago?

      There's still a 30-year moratorium on Monty Python sketch recital. It's been observed to cause virginity.

    24. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Informative
      Yeah - there was absolutely no public discussion of the Partriot Act, was there?


      You seem to be trying to be sarcastic, so I'm not sure you remember the Patriot Act was pushed through Congress in a matter of days. There are many statements from congressional staffers saying that basically nobody had time to even read the bill since it was so huge, but the Presdient wanted it passed, so everyone lined up and passed it. There was basically no discussion or debate whatsoever before the Patriot Act was passed, it was only after the fact that anyone could read the darn thing and see how much bad stuff had been put in by the Executive, some of which were allowed to expire when the act went up for renewal.
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    25. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Or the ever popular, to just ignore the Geneva Convention, where ever they see fit.
      Please. You speak as though the Geneva Convention is holy writ. The uncomfortable truth about it is that signatories are not required to abide by its principles if they decide their enemy is not conducting warfare according to the Convention. See, they really are no rules to warfare. The Geneva Convention is little more than a few of the more organized nations getting together and saying "in the future, let's agree to not to escalate the fighting in such a way that makes the loser of the next war look really bad, because you never know who that'll be." It's gilded with altruism and compassion, it's just political ass-covering. War is never altruistic nor compassionate. It's just killin' folks and breakin' things.
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    26. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by dorsey · · Score: 3, Informative
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    27. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by LunaticTippy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're right that things could be worse in Iraq. Things could be worse regarding freedom and liberty in the US.

      Your point is invalid, though. Just because things could be worse doesn't mean they're not horrible. Things could always be worse. The whole world could blow up, but hey at least we didn't lose the sun.

      Anyone who thinks things are going well in Iraq is retarded. Anyone who thinks the home of the free has never been freer is retarded. And you're not helping by mocking those who are pointing out blindingly obvious problems.

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    28. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Steve525 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are right, we are now trapped in Iraq.

      One way out is to give up. This will make us look weak. (The reality is, when it comes to controlling what happens inside other countries we are weak).

      The other way out is to be ruthless. Worse than Saddam Hussein ruthless. Even if we had the stomach for this, it might not work without at least some support from some of the population. (Saddam had the support of his Baath party). It would be pretty horrible to be worse than the govenment we (rightfully) called so evil.

      The only other option is to stay the course. Essentially, influence Iraq the best we can without giving up or becoming evil. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee we'll get the results we want. (In fact, it currently looks like it won't). In addition, who knows how many lives it will cost? It's a pretty expensive gamble.

      Anyone with half a brain could have predicted this before we invaded Iraq. (Just ask G. Bush, Sr.) Unfortionately, we broke it, and now we bought it. I don't see any good solutions. The best suggested I've seen was mentioned by the senator who was interviewed here recently. He suggested letting the Iraqqies (sp?) vote. If they want us to leave, we'll leave. There's no disgrace in doing what the Iraqqies want us to. If they want us to stay, then it might not solve everything, but at least it will give us some legitimacy.

    29. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by Onan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's also no chance in hell that the Democrats will do anythingto cut government spending and everyone knows it. The Republicans have been as bad as the Democrats at that in the last several years but the Dems will never do it.

      Despite the siren song of a huge economic boom and tax surplus, Clinton mostly cut federal spending. Bush, conversely, has increased spending, borrowing, and deficits to absurd and unprecedented levels.

      You may want to revisit your stereotypes about which is the party of fiscal responsibility.

    30. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Please. You speak as though the Geneva Convention is holy writ. The uncomfortable truth about it is that signatories are not required to abide by its principles if they decide their enemy is not conducting warfare according to the Convention.

      Two questions.

      1. Can you point me to that clause in the Conventions? I was not familiar with that. (As I understood it, signed international treaties are the law of the land.) I'm curious to see what you are referring to.

      2. Assuming your 'uncomfortable truth' is correct, and a nation does not have to follow them in combat with an enemy who does not recognize the Conventions, do you think - personally - that we should still follow them on moral grounds?

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    31. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are a brave squid for posting that. With the complete destruction of civil liberties you've pointed to, I certain you have already been detained for crimes against the state. I hope you survive the torture you will certainly receive without delay. But with the havoc the deficit spending has had on our economy, at least you will get bread and water between your torture sessions. Since I can't find a job, maybe I should post something similar so that I can at least get a free meal.

      I am alive and posting to slashdot so I, personally, have not been murdered. Therefore, murderers do not exist.

    32. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by cold+fjord · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Seriously, I would wager less than 1 in 100 citizens in the U.S. even know about these letters.

      If 1 in 100 knows about them, then 1 in 1,000 have a reasonable understanding of them.

      Group opposes loss of signing statements

      WASHINGTON -- A group of former Clinton administration lawyers are urging the American Bar Association to reject its panel's call for presidents to stop issuing ``signing statements" that reserve the right to bypass laws, saying the problem is with President Bush's use of such statements, not the mechanism itself.

      Group opposes loss of signing statements

      On Thursday, for example, the Boston Globe published an opinion article defending signing statements by law professors Eric Posner of the University of Chicago and Curtis Bradley of Duke University.

      Posner worked in the Office of Legal Counsel under former President George H. W. Bush from 1992 to 1993, and Bradley worked for the current Bush administration as a State Department attorney in 2004.

      Posner and Bradley agreed with the Clinton-era lawyers that presidents have a right to issue signing statements, calling them ``a useful device through which the president can announce his views . . . rather than conceal them." They also argued that Bush's signing statements are no different than Clinton's -- a claim that the Clinton-era lawyers, who say Bush has abused the mechanism, dispute.

      Signing Off

      Could Supreme Court Settle Presidential Signing Scrap?

      I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that some people get this wrong given the shocking number of people buying into 9/11 myths or hoaxes.
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    33. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by daigu · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Can you explain how VA benefits to provide health care to veteran's injured in Iraq is not a military expense? If you use the figures from the offical U.S. Budget, you get 20%. However, the war on Iraq is not included in the budget and is funded through a special package. The funding has to be borrowed, and just like when I borrow money from the bank to buy something I cannot offered (like a house) I have to include the interest costs of borrowing this money in my accounting of its costs. Federal deficit costs that came from the wide variety of military actions we have been involved in since WWII, from Korea to Iraq to Nicaraqua (the first "War on Terror") to the funding we gave Hussien before he stopped following our orders. All of this costs money and should appropriately be assigned to military spending.

      The flaw in your old saw is that you make the error of assuming the budget actually covers everything and that it properly categories expenses. All you have to do is think about how much is being spent in Iraq to get a sense that there is a serious flaw in your argument. Add in the money being spent on "Homeland Defense", Veterans Affairs, NASA, Department of Energy, that are primarily related to the military, and you have a lot more than 20%. Can you point out why you take the official numbers and cannot bring yourself to admit that there might be some bogus accounting going on here?

    34. Re:Will they be able to make things better? by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'm not sure I understand your legal reasoning. The president says with his signature, "this is the law of the land." Meanwhile, with the signing statement, he says, "this law is unconstitutional, and so I'm not going to follow it."

      ``It is a mistake . . . to respond to these abuses by denying to this and future presidents the essential authority, in appropriate and limited circumstances, to decline to execute unconstitutional laws," Dellinger wrote.
      I've got a simpler solution: If the law is unconstitutional, don't pass the law. If the law gets passed despite the veto, don't execute the law. Then the Supreme Court is supposed to jump in and decide whether the law is constitutional or not.

      Yes, I understand why you consider signing statements useful, and even reasonable when used in exceptional circumstances. But it seems like the Constitution doesn't authorize the practice, and letting it go on despite that effectively takes one of the powers of the Judiciary (to determine the constitutionality of laws) and hand it straight over to the Executive. Maybe the Constitution should be amended, to legalize the signing statements or give SCOTUS a way to quickly weigh in on such perceived constitutional turf wars.
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  2. Re:FOSP by LinuxGeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    That would be a great disturbance in the Farce.

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  3. Fraud count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Successful votes: 46%
    Unsuccessful votes: 2%
    George Bush: 52%

  4. In My Opinion This is Good for Everyone by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, it's good for everyone, even the citizens that call themselves Republican.

    Let me explain what was happening before. The Republicans owned all three branches of the government--House, Senate & Presidential seat. They didn't have 2/3 majority in both the House & Senate but it put the rest of the country in a really bad spot. You see, the three branches were put in place so that no one party/person could go nuts and foul up the country.

    What has been happening as of late, is that bills are flying through all three branches and being approved. Some of these are good for Republicans, some aren't. Some of the things George W. Bush has been doing are aligned with his party and some weren't. The problem is that since "his party" was the majority, they were expected to pass whatever he proposed.

    Compounding on these problems, it seems the Democrats were resigned that this would happen after their defeat in a lot of prior elections.

    The fact is, I don't want anything to fly through the process of passing bills. I want there to be a large discussion before it becomes law. Recently, I've seen headings that say, "Bill passed that allows president to do X" and my response was, "When the hell was that even proposed? Oh, six days ago? That's aweful fast!"

    The Democrats have a majority in one branch now, I don't care who gets the Senate. Let's just keep a nice balanced government. I'm not naive enough to think that this process actually works but I do know that as of late it's been really crappy--probably for both parties. I'd like to see the Republicans take the Senate, the Democrats have the House & let whatever nut jobs we want to be president.

    So if you call yourself Republican, just remember that the other half of the country is Democrat--and it benefits you to keep them happy. A balanced government is more important for my health than balanced meals.

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    1. Re:In My Opinion This is Good for Everyone by LinuxGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, the three branches of the US government are: Executive, Legislative and Judical.

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    2. Re:In My Opinion This is Good for Everyone by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Republicans owned all three branches of the government--House, Senate & Presidential seat.

      Um... the three branches are the Executive (the president heads up this branch, and it includes the military, all of the various agencies headed up by his appointed cabinet memebers, etc), the Judicial (the courts, which are populated with career-long judges that are typically in office well past the duration of the administration that nominated them, which usually means a pretty mixed group, philosophically), and the Legislative (which happens to have the Congress and the Senate as its two main parts).

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    3. Re:In My Opinion This is Good for Everyone by F34nor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cough, cough. Sputter. The judicial is the emergency brake. When all else fails and you are riding on the skids then the judicial is the most important branch of government. When asked why we have the senate, a very un-democratic institution, it was explained that it was cream to mellow the coffee. The job of government is to protect the people from the will of the majority. When the majority votes in fascists that want to pass laws that invalidate the constitution then the judicial says "NO, you can't do that." Your laws MUST pass muster, they must be legal laws, hence the third branch. The part that is relevant to the people governed is the fourth estate or the media.

    4. Re:In My Opinion This is Good for Everyone by finkployd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I used to call myself a Republican, and if the party ever comes back from the fiscally irresponsible, gay marriage obsessed, party with their heads in the sand over Iraq party they have turned into, I'll come back.

      Having said that, you are spot on. This IS good for the country. And this is actually good for the Republican party because it kicks them in the ass and shows them how far they have gone. I (personally) believe it is also good for the Democratic party as well (who I would probably have belonged to 3 or 4 decades ago). The gains they made were from moderate Democrats, not the raving liberals who seem to have directed the party for a while now. It is high time people realize that real people have views across the board, making them average out as moderate. Few people fall perfectly party line along the hard left or hard right.

      Finkployd

  5. I, for one,... by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...will not be pleased if the only thing to come out of the House in the next two years is a bunch of investigations and impeachment hearings. (ha, you thought I was going to say something abuot overlords, didn't you?)

    Now that the Dems control the House, and will have a solid say in what happens in the Senate (regardless of outcome in Montana and Virginia), I want to see some action on real issues.

    (BTW - can you really call Liberman a Democrat now? I mean he votes with the Republicans and the national Democrats gave him the finger earlier this year. I wonder if he will consider switching parties? That woul d be the ultimate up-yours, especially if the Dems get both tight races left - as his switch would put it at 50-50, and "the duck" would then cast all tie-breaking votes)

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    1. Re:I, for one,... by antv · · Score: 3, Interesting

      will not be pleased if the only thing to come out of the House in the next two years is a bunch of investigations and impeachment hearings.
      ...
      Now that the Dems control the House, and will have a solid say in what happens in the Senate (regardless of outcome in Montana and Virginia), I want to see some action on real issues.

      Well, in some cases action on real issues is about investigation. I (for one) am concerned about:

      • War profiteering and torture. There are a lot of issues about how Iraq war is handled and what private contractors (Halliburton, mercenary companies) are doing. Did you know, for instance, that there were private, non-Army interrogators in Abu Ghraib, not bound by US Military Code of Justice (I highly recommend watching "Iraq for sale" movie, BTW) ? Then there are CIA secret prisons. I definitely want that investigated.
      • Illegal wiretaps. I have my 4th ammendment rights and I want to know if government was violating them.
      • Reasons we got into war. 2839 Americans and about 600,000 Iraqis are dead. Somehow no one even got fired for that. I don't like the idea of politician being able to murder more than half a million people and just simply get away with it.
      • Corruption. Well, I don't have high hopes for that, because all politicians are corrupt and they won't put themselves in jail. Still, this needs to be investigated.
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    2. Re:I, for one,... by Phoenix666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, I agree. I want Congress to:

      -repeal the Patriot Act
      -put a stop to govt. spying on Americans
      -restore habeus corpus
      -repeal the tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy
      -close Guantanamo
      -stop "extraordinary rendition"
      -end torture
      -get the US out of Iraq
      -fund alternative energy and public transportation so we can stop funding terrorism through oil
      -implement national health care
      -disband and dismantle the Dept. of Homeland Security, which is the creepiest title since 'Ministry of Truth.'
      -crack down on corporate aka white-collar crime
      -stop outsourcing our jobs
      -restore environmental protections
      -shut NK and Iran's nuclear programs down
      -stop invading other countries at the orders of AIPAC (http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/ rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf)
      -seriously fund medical research to cure cancer and heart disease, etc.
      -catch Osama bin Laden, for pete's sake
      -repair our alliances
      -start addressing the very scary and very imminent threat of China

      Basically, I want them to undo everything Bush has done, and then take the country in a positive direction domestically and abroad.

      But I will be seriously pissed if I don't see investigations and impeachment, because the neo-cons, the war profiteers like Bechtel and Halliburton, and all their co-conspirators must be brought to justice. 'Cause like it or not folks, if they don't then our last means to get justice is with our guns.

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  6. Divided government is good by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a believer in liberty, limited government, and rule of law, I'm no fan of the Democrats. BUT I do recognize that with a divided government, less gets done. And the less that gets done, the better off all of us are. Fewer wars are started. Fewer liberties are infringed. Fewer taxes get raised. Fewer vile "regulations" get passed. Fewer obstacles are placed in the path of economic growth and prosperity. Hence, although I'd never have voted for any Democrat, I'm still glad they took at least the House.

    1. Re:Divided government is good by BeardsmoreA · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As I'm from the UK, I can't claim to understand the ins and outs of your voting in the US, but from what I just read you're saying "I would never have aligned my vote with a politician who I wanted to win to help stabilize our political system, because he from that other party. Sounds like utterly stupid tribalist, partisan politics, which is responsible for most intelligent people in Western democracies being so utterly bored with politics as a whole...

  7. Election Supervision? by PastaAnta · · Score: 3, Funny
    Concerns of voter fraud have been heard from around the nation as well.

    Hello United States of America!

    Maybe You should consider inviting the UN for supervising the next election like any other Banana Republic out there?

    Oh sorry - You couldn't take a joke ;-)

  8. Hey, Karl Rove by analog_line · · Score: 4, Funny

    were in ur house, beetin ur repz!

  9. Democrats have the benefit of the doubt... by RyanFenton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So far, in the close Senate races (Tester Vs Burns in Montana and Webb Vs Allen in Virginia), the vote counts all favor the Democrats, leaving the incumbant Republicans in the position of legal challenger. In percentage terms, the advantage for the Democrats is much higher than in Florida 2000's presidential election, so the benefit of the doubt before the votes are checked will be very high for the Democrats taking the Senate.

    I'm actually very glad that we have such close races in this election - this makes for one of the best possible cases for both parties to demand drastic changes in the standards needed for the voting process. Especially in the case of the 'electronic' voting machines and optical scanners using software like GEMS, and with extremely lax enforcement of standards across the board. Even without the expected cases of shennanigans, I hope we can expect some level of bi-partisan smackdown of these dangerously flawed voting systems.

    Ryan Fenton

  10. exactly like it should be! by schnikies79 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    you never want one party controlling congress and the office of the president. the less that gets passed, the better!

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  11. Election fraud, not voter fraud by kherr · · Score: 4, Informative

    It should read, "Concerns of election fraud..."

    Voter fraud is people voting under false identities. It rarely happens. Election fraud is the kind of mass voter suppression and dubious vote counting we've been seeing in this country. Even the most celebrated examples of "voter fraud" are really election fraud, such as Chicago Mayor Daley allegedly engineered dead people voting for JFK.

  12. Dear Blogosphere: by s20451 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You remember how you were going to send pro-war democrats a big message and kick Lieberman's sorry ass out of the senate?

    Well, the way the senate results are coming down, guess what: you just made Independent Joe Lieberman the most powerful man in the Senate.

    How do you like them apples?

    With love,
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  13. Re:What will the democrats be able to do? by necro81 · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's more to holding a House majority than passing bills. The most important thing, especially in the House (rather than the Senate) is that the majority party gets to decide the rules of order. The Democrats will now have the chair of every House committee, Speaker Pelosi will have the power to decide what bills even make it to the floor. Having the chair of all the committees, the Democrats will be able to exert Congressional oversight that has been sorely lacking since Bush came to office. In short, Democrats in the House will be able to frustrate the President's agenda, and likely make his final two years very embarassing.

  14. Re:Stock Market by Chapter80 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Tip #1: Don't take stock advice from Slashdot.

    Tip #2: My belief is that the end-of-year-rally will continue, and October 2006 to October 2007 will be a good year in the market (with most of the gains early). If I recall correctly, it almost always is, in years of the mid-term elections.

    Tip #3: One stock prediction you can rely on: "It will fluctuate."

  15. There's one small problem... by Dekortage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    THEY'RE ALL POLITICIANS!!!

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  16. Not a suprise by finkployd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As an ex-Republican (Bush created a lot of us) who still leans conservative at least on economic issues, this is no surprise to me. What is interesting to me is that a party that includes some pretty intelligent people seems to primarily target idiots in their rhetoric.

    For example, most conservatives I know could care less about gay marriage. It is not a huge issue for me, I find myself being for it. I have no reason to oppose it so it just seems fair. Yet Rove and co. keep making this a cornerstone of their "get out the vote" campaign. The Christian fundamentalists do not have enough numbers that you need only focus on them to win, especially when it comes out that your own party might be covering up for a gay (the horror!) teen-predator who inexplicably held a co-chairmanship in the "missing and exploited children caucus". That probably did not play well in the bible belt.

    Corruption anyone? Of course this is a cyclical thing and I fully expect the Republicans will probably regain Congress in a few election cycles after the Democrats turn out to be just a corrupt. And the cycle will go on and on because corruption is not a party issue, it is a requirement for office in DC.

    Then you have Iraq, the elephant in the room that none of the Republican commentators wanted to touch (no pun intended). Again, you would have to be a totally uninformed moron to think that everything is going great and we need to "stay the course", yet that has been the message for years, flying in the face of reality (with its well known liberal bias ;)

    But the most ridiculous thing to me has to be the "listen to mommy and daddy you stupid little children" approach the Republicans have taken in warning us what would happen if the Democrats win. Probably plays well to those who only get their information from Rush/Hannity/etc., but for those of us who are not spoon fed our beliefs by paid mouthpieces it is insulting. "The terrorists are cheering the Democrats on", "The Democrats want us to lose", "If the Democrats win, we will lose the war on terror", "The future of civilization rests in the balance of the election"
    Give me a break, both parties are pro-America and want the best for us, they just differ on how to get there. To suggest otherwise is fear-mongering of the worst kind.

    Then you have the issue of how far Republicans have come from the "94 take over" years. Go back and re-read the "Contract With America", it is chock full of some really good stuff that I could really get behind. However, it is as far from the Republican party as you can get.

    A good number of us are not religious/social conservative fanatics (or as I like to say, Shiite Christians), but that seems to be all the Republicans are targeting. Many of us ARE fiscally conservative and you will not find a more fiscally irresponsible government that the Republican controlled federal government of yesterday. Almost none of us are willing to join Bush's delusion regarding Iraq anymore. The WMD scam, the clueless management on the part of Rumsfeld, and the "la la la, I can't hear you" approach Bush takes to any news that is not positive has clearly taken its toll.

    Personally, I hope the Democrats take the Senate for a clean Congressional sweep. I still disagree with many of their positions, but more important that that is my belief that checks and balances between the two branches of government is preferable to a mono-culture.

    I am Finkployd, and I approve this message

    1. Re:Not a suprise by bloosqr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the democrats since clinton are actually 'the economist' style conservative which is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.. clinton spent a lot of time paying down the debt, reducing welfare (to workfare) and doing a lot of things that should have given the fiscal conservatives a source of hope.. Not all democrats are like this to be sure, but there are more out there than you might think . .For what its worth i vote democratic now on national/state level and vote republican on the city level (because of the entrenched corruption of the democratic party in my city (philadelphia) )

    2. Re:Not a suprise by finkployd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Given the monumental waste of money and innocent lives in Iraq

      Many honestly believed that this was critical to the war on terror. Now we know better, the problem I have with the Republicans is that they refuse to admit they were wrong (or fooled) and hang on to any flimsy Iraq/Terrorism link and justification they can. Nobody wants to admit they were wrong. But that is ok, we just told them.

      fleecing of the treasury for corporate crony interests

      This is not a party issue, this is a political issue. The Republicans are in the cross-hairs now because they are in power but the Democrats are just as bad when they are in power. Neither party will ever change this, it is their gravy train. They will only point out when the other party does it.

      routine battering of the constitution

      Again, this is a function of who is in power, not which party they belong to. Not long ago the Democrats (Clinton & Gore spearheading) were pushing for Clipper as a way to spy on all Americans and prevent anyone from having privacy and cryptography. The Republicans (oddly led by Ashcroft) fought it on the grounds that we needed privacy from an overbearing government that wanted to spy on all of us.
      The party in power always wants to have more power (in their minds, to better do their job and protect us) and the minority party is always concerned about to much Federal power and the privacy of citizens.

      staggering deficit just for starters

      There is no excuse for that, they are just jackasses when it comes to fiscal responsibility. Thus we see many conservatives staying home or voting for the opposition to send a message.

      I find it hard to agree that the republicans want whats best for the greater good.

      They really believe that they need to win in Iraq to keep us safe (probably true, but not going in to begin with would have likely been safer). They really believe they need NSA spying, torture, and the removal of all those pesky "civil rights for suspected terrorists" in order to keep us safe. We are at WAR dammit, against an insane enemy who wants to kill us all, extreme measures must be taken.

      Of course they are wrong, and the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Fortunately we just told them they are wrong, interesting to see if they get the message.

      Nobody (well maybe Cheney, that guy seems to be pure evil sometimes), rubbing their hands together, cackling like Mr Burns about their plans to destroy the country. They feel they are doing the right thing, and as a country we were agreeing for a while. However as more information surfaced we adjusted our views and opinion accordingly (as people should do when learning new things and/or situations change), the Whitehouse did not. They buried their heads in the said and demanded we stay the course. This election is the logical result of that idiocy.

      Finkployd

  17. Re:Stock Market by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Informative
    I really wouldn't read anything into that given a whole host of things:

    1) Lag between policies and stock performance

    2) Lack of adjustment for inflation

    3) Small sample size

    4) Lack of a mechanism (without which, correlation isn't causation)

    5) Many non-repeatable events that affect performance (9/11, oil embargo, etc)

    And so on. In particular, Clinton doesn't deserve credit for sitting on the run-up of the dot com bubble and happening to get out right before it crashed (the market was cresting and heading for descent right as he left). I don't blame him either, however, so this isn't a partisan thing.

    In short, I wouldn't say there's sufficient evidence either way, but as a statistically-minded scientist, I have a serious hatred of studies like the one you cite claiming statistically-unsupported conclusions.

  18. Re:I, for one by Ihlosi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Oh wait, I'm not an American.



    That ain't gonna help you. It just means that you didn't get to vote.



    You may welcome your new overlords again now.

  19. Voter Fraud? How about /. Summary Fraud? by castoridae · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Concerns of voter fraud have been heard from around the nation as well.

    WTF was this little gem thrown into the summary? Not only does the article not mention fraud at all (if it did, I blinked...), but according to CNN, Number of civil rights voting complaints 'low'.

    With a summary like that, seems like the editor is angling for a new job at Fox News...

  20. Re:What will the democrats be able to do? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    The one thing that will certainly happen though, is a minimum wage increase. Most republicans will not dare to vote against that

    They'll go along with a minimum wage increase, but the president will add a signing statement:

    "Within the context of this statute, the term 'Dollar' shall defined to be equal to 68 cents."

  21. Favorable outcome by Cereal+Box · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, the Democrats got a favorable outcome, so I guess that means they don't think there was any voting fraud this time.

  22. Re:Like Bush says about elections... by Snowhare · · Score: 5, Informative

    You don't understand: The election districts have been so gerrymandered (by both the Democrats and the Republicans) that the number of seats where it is thought to be even theoretically possible to defeat the incumbent of each party is generally considered to be less than 10% of the total seats. For the Democrats to take 4-6 Senate seats (out of only 33 up for election this year) and 28-30 House seats without losing a single seat of their own is an absolutely stunning thing.

    Pollsters had characterized this election as a irresistible force (the 'tsunami' of public opinion against the Bush and the Republicans) vs the immovable object (the incredibly rigged system of incumbent protecting districts plus the advantages of incumbency in getting re-elected in general). Apparently the immovable object wasn't quite as immovable as the Republicans had hoped.

  23. Oversight shouldn't be political by ObligatoryUserName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Republican majority has never understood or respected Congress. They literally believe that it should do as little as possible. That's what they came into power on in 1994. Immediately they cut oversight hearings in 1/2 (Yes, they only spent 1/2 as much time doing oversight of the Clinton administration as the Democratic Congress), and it has been on a downward trend to oblivion ever since. They spent 10x as much time investigating Clinton's Christmas Card mailing list as they did Abu Ghrab.

    This is because Republicans have always viewed Congressional hearings as merely a club to attack the other party with when they are truly essential to a well running government. A lot of our problems would have been avoided if they had kept fulfilling that role, but they are phobic about saying anything bad about other Republicans. Let's just hope that there are enough old hands in Congress that can remember how this is supposed to work!

  24. Re:Stock Market by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought slate had an article saying that democrats were better investors recently ? Too lazy to search, sorry.

    I think you're referring to the claim that companies with "blue" managers outperformed others significantly. I don't have the Slate article, but this is the prospectus for the fund.

    Now, here's why you shouldn't buy it (the argument, or the fund):

    1) They've based this on FIVE YEARS of market history. In terms of the stock market's history, that's nothing. The last five years are not representative of the market's performance. For example, the S&P's historical return is over 10 percent, but in the last five years it was ~6.5%, about the same as bonds.

    2) The fund promoter doesn't seem to understand what would count as a valid explanation for the perceived phenomenon (which, again, they got from only five years). The prospectus proposes that democrat-leaning CEO's "better understand employee needs" and crap like that, but that would't explain excess returns. To explain excess returns you would need to explain why that better management *is not already accounted for in the stock's price*. Even if that has historically happened, how do you know investors haven't "learned their lesson" by now and quit undervaluing that kind of manager? It's common for theories to backtest well and blow up when you try them.

    If you really want to invest in "socially responsible" companies, go to vanguard.com and look up their "social index fund" (under stock funds). You get the benefits of low-cost indexing, plus you'll only be investing in companies that were pre-screened for social and environmental criteria. But don't expect to do consistently better than the rest of the market.

  25. Re:Stock Market by jnaujok · · Score: 3, Informative

    Stock futures are down big this morning, as happens after almost every democratic win. I believe NASDAQ is down 20+ and Dow is down 40+.

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  26. Repugnacans Got Just Deserts - Demoncrats Didn't by cyberscan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be up front, I will state that I am a conservative and vote along that ideology. Even so, I am pointing out the lies and hypocrisy of the "Repugnacan" Party.

    The Republicans had control of both houses of congress, the presidency, and "right wing" majority in Supreme Court. In other words, they had a monopoly on power in the United States? Did they live up to their "party platform?" NO THEY DIDN'T!!! Rather than reduce the size and scop of government they have made the government size and scope the largest in U.S. history. As far as abortions and "gay marriage," the carnage continues at abortion mills, and NO LAW was passed to prevent "gay marriage." In fact, the Bush administration has appointed the largest number of openly gay people to office. The Republicans claim that they were tough on Muslim extremeists, yet they voted to outsource our nation's security to Arab companies while at the same time passing unconstitutional laws that intrude upon American freedoms. Christians and other moral majority type people fell for the Republican con plain and simple, and the Republicans did not keep their promises as a party. As a result, FED UP voters rightfully threw their sorry asses out of office :-)

    The problem I have with the election, however, is the fact that Demoncrats were elected in their place :-( Will the Demoncrats live up to their promises of affordable, quality healthcare? Will they do something to steady the flow of American jobs to overseas slave labor countries? Will they repeal the "Patriot" Act? Will they restore the legal protections that Americans had under the Constitution? The most likely answer to all of these questions is likely not just no, but HELL NO!!! Remember the Democrats' promise when they ran against George Bush Senior? They railed against the republicans about their eagerness to send American jobs overseas (to repressive countries such as Red China). When in office, they did nothing to stem the flow of American jobs overseas. In fact most voted for the North American "Free Trade" Agreement. Healthcare costs also skyrocketed during the Clinton era. There were also the uncoinstitutional intrusions on peoples freedoms. Will there be any real changes in the way we are governed in the next few years? HELL NO!!! It will be business as usual.

    I call the state of American politics the "swinging pendulum of sameness." When voters become fed up with the lies, deceit, and corruption of the Democrats, they fall for the lies, deceit, and corruption of the Republicans. It is the same game, but with a different name. The main difference between each political party is which group of voters they target with their empty campaign promises and lies, deceit, and corruption. Each election, voters are still stupid enough to actually swallow these lies. It is the stupidity of voters that allow these assholes to get away with all their crap. I am sure that this post will be modded down or catagorized as a troll. So be it. However, that still does not change the fact that the American voters as a whole are still stupid. Most believe that they have no choice but to vote the "Lessor of Two Evils." ost are also too lazy to do research on the candidates on the ballot even when sample ballots are available weeks in advance. If they would actually take about 15 minutes to do research, they would see that they never even heard of the majority of the candidates on the ballot. This is because the vooice of these candidates are squelched by the mainstream media. In fact, most media outlets will not even list them as being in the race.

    I did my research this election, and I found several alternative party or independent candidates who had very good ideas. I also found quite a few who were plainly kooks. I told people about the candidates that I like as well as the other alternative ones. Most people's reactions were, "but they have no chance of winning. You are throwing away your vote." I say that they are throwing away th

  27. Re:I switched from Coke to Pepsi!! by aristolochene · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cuba has an excellent, well developed acute and preventative medical programme. Doctors from all over the world learn from their system. They also train many, many Drs from the 3rd world, cheaply, which allows them to go home and benefit their country. I saw a BBC2 (UK) show recently where they even interviewed some trainee medics from the US who were learning in Cuba as a)it was cheaper b)they liked the system. That's not to say the Cuba is a wonderland - Castros human rights record stinks - but it is simplistic to dismiss their socialised healthcare for this reason. Also, you might like to consider the quality of social healthcare availble in, for example, the Scandinavian countries. If I had to get cancer (Intelligent Designer forbid) I'd rather have it in Denmark than Delaware. Unless, of course, you think your medical choices should be solely a function of your personal income. NB As a Canadian, if you don't like your healthcare system, exercise your democratic rights and vote for a party that will improve things (in your eyes, anyway). Failing that, run for office yourself. And be damned grateful you can - unlike people in the 3 countries you mention can/could.

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  28. why doesn't it divide into 2 camps? by ChristTrekker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an American, I can say that you're pretty much accurate there. The voting system has led to a two-party system, which has led to bitter, bitter partisanship like you describe - despite the fact that the Duopoly is essentially a single monster with two heads. Now that the election is over, it will return to being the back-patting good ol' boy club.

    The OP is right - divided government is good. So then why can't we get some stronger third parties? I, for one, would love to see no single party with a majority in either house. A coalition government seems like it would be much slower to pass new laws as well, which is a good thing for freedom. Nobody in this country looks beyond the "us vs them" of election day to the deeper (though mundane) issues of voting methods that could actually fix the problem we all complain about. All my fellow Americans know how to do is swing the pendulum back and forth. The system itself doesn't allow (much less encourage) real challenge to occur. Voting doesn't make much difference, because there are no choices, so the USA has one of the lowest rates of involvement of any free country.

    My analysis is that voters wanted a change. They rejected the leadership of GWB and took it out on Congress, but it isn't necessarily an endorsement of Democrats. I think there are a lot of disillusioned Republicans out there, that would have taken the opportunity to vote Constitution or Libertarian if the media had bothered to inform them of these alternatives. But the media seems to be in collusion with the Duopoly, because those bitter two-way feuds make good news.

  29. 10 Step Process To Becoming a Congress Staffer by kthejoker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just so we're clear: it is not hard in America to become an influential lobbyist *or* the staffer for a Congressperson, if you were so inclined.

    I've worked on a campaign for a state legislator - the people at the top (the consultants who end up on congressional staff, the directors, etc) are mostly just like me, but with two differences: they were a lot more involved in politics throughout college (running for Student Senate, joining groups, etc) and most of them were eager beaver, suit-wearing boring clods. (Not that I'm not boring or a clod, but they took the cake.)

    The people who get on national campaigns are only slightly more respectable. Add in a law degree and you can be a lobbyist, too.

    In fact, here's a simple 10 Step Process To Becoming a Congressional Staffer:

    1) In high school, be "politically" active. Run for student government, be a joiner, do the club thing (be President of at least one), join FBLA. Also, learn Spanish. And actually learn it, don't just sit in the classes.
    2) Become an Eagle Scout. It's ridiculously easy, and it's great for networking. For girls, do a lot of volunteer work.
    3) In college, repeat: join a lot of clubs, run for student government.
    4) Write for your college newspaper. Especially the political section. If the main newspaper won't take you, right for one of the student-run alternatives. Or start your own (even better!)
    5) Get a degree in political science with a minor in communications. Any liberal arts degree will do, but political science is as an easy way to ...
    6) Network within your university. Ask all of your teachers and advisors about internships and positions on campaigns and staff.
    7) Get involved in real politics around your college. Volunteer for the Democratic or Republican party headquarters in your area. Attend townhall meetings and generally get your name out there (business cards are great.) At actual elections, sign up to be a poll worker (you get paid $150 in Texas to do this.)
    8) Once you've graduated, head to your party headquarters with your hat in your hand, and ask for a job on a staff. They will hook you up (I worked on 3 campaigns before switching fields.)
    9) Focus on what you're really good at within the campaign. Good at math? Crunch poll numbers and offer strategies on how to be more efficient with your campaigning. Good at IT? Build websites, manage e-mail newsletters, keep track of donors, create systems to manage the campaign. Good with people? Be the PR flak, or coordinate the volunteers. Good with words? Be a speechwriter. Find your strength and hone in on it.
    10) Wait 10 years. By the time you're 30, you'll be in a Congressional office, as long as you don't totally screw up. And even then, all of that networking will probably get you something cushy.

    This strategy absolutely worked for me up to stage 8, when I decided I'd rather build websites for regular people and businesses than campaigns.

  30. Hardly. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your taxes are going to go up because the Republicans have been cutting taxes and spending like drunken schoolboys for the last six years. Just because they didn't pay for it then doesn't make it the fault of the people who inherit their mess.

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  31. Wiggum said it best. by uberjoe · · Score: 5, Funny
    There's an old saying that says, if you want to get out of a hole, the first thing you've got to do is stop digging.

    No, no, no, dig up stupid.

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  32. Re:Not a A Macacaphonic Chorus by edmicman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a shame that we live in a matter of state where people have to say "don't vote for the candidate you support because it splits the vote, and in turn the guy both of us oppose will win". You should pick who you want, based on your criteria, and let the chips fall where they may.

    Speaking of, why does the Green Party get so much support as opposed to the Libertarians (which from what I can tell, seem much more "mainstream" in that if you asked someone their thoughts, would probably fall in line with them)?

  33. You've got war all wrong.... by DG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once upon a time, war was the (almost) exclusive purview of uniformed armies fighting other uniformed armies.

    Later on, as victory became less about the actions of groups of determined men carrying sharp and pointy things, and more about the ability to mobilize and deploy highly mechanized forces (the three best American generals of WW2: General Foods, General Motors, General Electric) it was almost as important to deny an enemy the use of his industrial production base as it was to defeat his armies in the field. This ushered in an era where targeting essentially civilian enterprises was militarily acceptable if it resulted in damage to military production. Merge this with the concept that the state had the right and ability to conscript every male between 16 and 55(ish) into military service, and you have 20th century Total War.

    Total War is, indeed, brutal and ruthless, as you are effectively pitting the entire population, technical, agricultural, and industrial capabilities of states against each other.

    But more recent actions are not about all-out state-vs-state contests. Instead, you are looking at state-vs-uninstitutionalized factions, where victory is not measured by reducing an opposing state's armies and industrial centres to ash, but rather, in converting an undecided third party (the "normal" citizens of the host state) into seeing things your way and conducting themselves accordingly.

    This is "hearts and minds" stuff. You aren't in the game of killing everything in sight. Instead, you are in the game of reducing the freedom of your enemies to act and denying them support, while simultaneously trying to improve the quality of life of the citizens of the host nation.

    It is in the conversion of the host people that the game is won or lost. If everybody wants the insurgents to win, then they will - you are an army of occupation and they will eventually bleed you dry. If everybody wants the insurgents to lose, then they will - insurgents rely on the support of locals to survive. And when you have an undecided populace, where some support you and some support the insurgents... well, then you have Iraq and Afghanistan today.

    And experience has shown that heavy-handedness - "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out"; "those that run are VC, those that stand their ground are well-disciplined VC" - plays into the hands of the insurgents, as every injustice done to an innocent creates support for the insurgents.

    A man who supports you and who wants to see the insurgents stopped will change his tune when a 1000lb bomb dropped on the "insurgent stronghold" across the street flattens his home and kills his family - even if there really WERE insurgents across the street that were legitimate targets.

    Tactics that were entirely acceptable in the Total War days are now not only unacceptable in the Three Block War days, but are actually counterproductive.

    The main goals in Iraq have to be the restoration of basic infrastructure, the training and fielding of an effective, corruption-free Iraqi police force, the cleanup and rebuilding of damaged and destroyed buildings, and the establishment of effective government. Until those are done, you cannot win.

    Is there still a need for troops? Hell yes - all those infrastructure and reconstruction efforts will be actively opposed by insurgents, and there is a dire need for security and protection for those actors. But that's a different role than a massed armoured spearhead charging into the Fulda Gap.

    DG

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  34. Re:Repugnacans Got Just Deserts - Demoncrats Didn' by kencurry · · Score: 3, Informative


    How is this a conservative agenda? Every important item in your list is about telling others how to live! A true conservative agenda is that basically people should be as free as possible from government interference.

    Government should be minimal. People should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness - remember that line?

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  35. Re:Why is it a shame? by edmicman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I understand your sentiment, and partially agree. It just seems bad that it's either a system where a 25% vote wins, or a system where you have one of two choices, neither of which are good, but people feel like they must pick a "lesser of two evils". Ours is a system where there very well could be a "perfect leader" out there, a man of the people, who would never see the light of day because he doesn't play the games the Big Two do.

    Maybe I'm just too cynical....it all reminds me of the Simpsons episode where they had to vote between the two aliens....it's funny and sad because it's true.

  36. Greens are the Moderate Party by Pfhorrest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speaking of, why does the Green Party get so much support as opposed to the Libertarians (which from what I can tell, seem much more "mainstream" in that if you asked someone their thoughts, would probably fall in line with them)?

    Most people I know dislike Libertarians because they're seen as economically too right-wing. That is, the whole personal economic freedom thing is great, but people want social economic responsibility enforced as well, i.e. a social safety net of some sort, which the libertarians don't seem too fond of. The greens are more economically moderate, and as you'd expect from just statistical distribution, most people have moderate views of some sort or another.

    Incidentally, I'd say that what we call "socially liberal" is actually quite socially moderate, hence it's popularity; only a few of the most radical anarchistic liberals say that "people should be able to do whatever the want to long as they aren't harming others, and there should be no system in place to catch those who do try to harm others and protect those in danger of coming to harm". Fewer still say simple "people should be able to do whatever they want, period, even if it hurts others". Most everybody favors the existence of some sort of police, and emergency services like firefighters, and nobody wants complete anomie; all of which would be more liberal positions than even libertarians hold.

    Which doesn't make them better positions mind you, at least in my book - there has to be a proper balance between personal freedom and social responsibility and too little of either (or conversely, too much of the other) will give equally bad results. Too much "social responsibility" - when you start not only supporting the needs and general wellbeing of a society, but also giving in to it's arbitrary whims - leads to authoritarian tyranny of the majority, and is just as bad as the anarchy in the above extremes. (Consider it analogous to giving your child what it needs, which is a responsibility and thus somewhat a limit on your freedom, versus giving your child everything it demands, which would go beyond mere responsibility and make you a whipped parent). Apply this same line of reasoning (something the likes of which I suspect lies in the back of most people's minds) to economic issues and you'll see why more moderate economic stances are more popular than either of the extreme capitalist or extreme socialist positions.

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  37. Re:Not a A Macacaphonic Chorus by bigpat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    but it's hard to ignore the fact that you're getting in bed with a bunch of tax dodging fatcats who could care less about most of the stuff you want.

    Eliminating taxes is a bit different than tax dodging... I think tax dodging is more a description of the goals of the Democrats and Republicans who want to give tax loopholes out to their corporate and special interest supporters like candy for votes. Libertarians just want to set a fair (lower) rate and have everyone pay their fair share. It hurts libertarians that they don't want to use the social and economic controls that have served the two parties so well to curry favor. In other words you can't give out tax breaks if the rate is already the lowest it can be in order to run a stripped down version of government.

  38. Uhh... not in *my* Army by DG · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't speak for all signatories, but in *my* Army, the Convention is taken very VERY seriously with enormous penalties for those who violate it.

    If I caught any of my guys violating the Convention, particularly the sections on the mistreating of prisoners, I'd nail their ass to the wall, and I expect my chain of command would support that.

    The Convention isn't just a nice idea; it's the LAW.

    DG

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