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Looking Beyond Vista To Fiji and Vienna
Vinit wrote in with an article that describes Microsoft's strategy for future versions of Windows. It begins: "As we all know that Microsoft Vista was originally scheduled to be released in 2003, after two years of Windows XP, but it got delayed by over five years due to various reasons. Definitely, Vista is very very improved OS over the previous versions, but the delayed in the launch has cost Microsoft, billions of dollars. Now the question at the moment is, what exactly after Vista? Microsoft can't afford to wait another five years for an operating system. People are becoming more aware of the choices they have, and Linux is no longer a hobbyist OS, and that day isn't far away when it becomes simple enough to be a viable alternative to Windows. The competition is fierce. That is why, to stay at the top, Microsoft has planned a 'Vista R2', codenamed 'Fiji' which will be released some time in 2008. And after Fiji, there will be Windows 'Vienna'. Windows Fiji, will not be a totally different OS from Vista; but it will be an add-on. Whereas Vienna will be totally different from Vista."
'Vista R2', codenamed 'Fiji' which will be released some time in 2008
Why not in Fiji?
Fiji is where Bill plans to take his money and retire. Nothing to do with an OS.
...by the time Fiji is available, our bones will have long turned to dust...
Palm trees and 8
Apple are progressively upgrading the OS having smaller releases. This is closer to the Linux way of working.
Once you get your basic design right you can gradually improve and alter things. This is where Microsoft failed, their security model was flawed, so with Vista they've fixed it (or so they say).
How do they figure five years? 2003 to 2007, that's four years at best, not "over five years." If you include all of 2003 AND 2007, that gets you right up to five years (but that's not how it worked anyway).
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Ok, so from TFA: "One thing is for certain, Vienna won't be just an operating system, but a new generation in computing."
.Mac. Or, come to think of it, do what I've already done; use LiteStep and mod my current XP install.
How, we all ask, will it achieve such wonders?
The answer: "Windows Fiji will feature a more powerful sidebar, Monaco, a music authoring tool similar to Apple's Garageband, default playback of HD-DVD, more advanced Speech Recognition, and new themes, icons, wallpapers, games, and minor tweaks to almost everything."
Mmmhmm. I can't be the only one sitting here thinking 'what a load of bull'. I mean, really, if I wanted to get this apparently 'new generation' of computing, I'd go out and buy a
A illiterate intro based on a brief article from a random blog that doesn't quote any sources. That's what I call credibility.
Fiji: Microsoft gets an extension from the teacher to turn in its Vista homework late.
Vienna: Microsoft takes a philosophy class. Wonders why it did everything a certain way for the past 15 years. Gets high. Oooo...look at all the pretty colors and new interface paradigms.
REAL article with actual meat: http://jameskyton.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/beyond- windows-vista-fiji-and-vienna/
Don't you hate reading the whole thing and getting to the end and seeing SOURCE? I wish I could digg this article DOWN!
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So after basically admitting that windows had jumped the shark, they're still going to release "Fiji", ie a glorified service pack that you have to pay for. *sigh* maybe they'll be adding some of the features they scrapped in Vista, like WinFS.
On the plus side, at least Vista did ship with "improved shortcut support". Gotta give Microsoft that.
Witness the release of Vista, and then witness a re-release a couple of years later with bug fixes, feature improvements, security improvement rollups, and a few new (probably non-exclusive) applications rolled in to make the pill go down more sweetly. Everything old is made new again. Move along.
And I hear it's a good, operating system, but it has, some stunning, similarities to OS X. Also, the, author of the snippet, uses a few too, many, commas, and comes up, with wonderfully original, sentence, structures.
> Microsoft can't afford to wait another five years for an operating system.
Why not?
> The competition is fierce.
What competition?
Definitely, Vista is very very improved OS over the previous versions, but the delayed in the launch has cost Microsoft, billions of dollars.
I'm not looking for Shakespeare here, but the submitter is what, eight?
sic transit gloria mundi
What changed under Obama? Nothing Good
Will it be Fiji or Vienna that come bundled with Duke Nukem 3D?
Windows Fiji will feature a more powerful sidebar, Monaco, a music authoring tool similar to Apple's Garageband, default playback of HD-DVD, more advanced Speech Recognition, and new themes, icons, wallpapers, games, and minor tweaks to almost everything.
:)
While in Windows Vienna the current interface will be completely stripped, no more explorer shells, and taskbars. No start menu. Probably no toolbars, or menus and Speech Recognition will become a major input device. One thing is for certain, Vienna won't be just an operating system, but a new generation in computing.
So Fiji is going to rip off all the cool features of Leopard and incorporate into Vista while Vienna aims to be the next generation of computing. Why does this sound so familiar... oh wait....
And didn't we just recently have an article on stupid movie uses of computers that blasted the "talking computer" from Star Trek as being a completely useless interface? So why is this a good thing?
But it's also Microsoft. "2003" was codespeak for 2007, so "2008" means 2015 or something... and all the cool new features will be dropped for reasons of infeasibility anyway.
Exactly what is the basis for spouting this load of crap? How about this list of why Vista is inferior to previous versions of windows:
.doc
No Support for IPX, Appletalk, WebDav, or NetDDE
Even less capable backup built in than XP, which itself had inferior backup to previous versions
High cost
Bloat #1 - takes over 10GB of hard disk
Bloat #2 - 2GB of RAM needed
Crippled wordpad can't read
Obtuse menuing requiring going in half a dozen or more levels in for basic controls
Stupid ReadyBoost trying to do what would be better done by simple swap/page to usb device, except RB is MUCH slower
Hardware vendors not in hurry to support Vista
in short, you'll gain nothing and lose functionality by going to Vista. save your money, just say NO.
Until the day Vista ships, MS is getting huge amounts of cash from Windows XP licenses on almost every new PC sold. Most people don't run out and buy a new OS for existing PCs, they usually stick with whatever came with it. How exactly will Vista increase MS's revenue to the tune of billions? Had they released something sooner, what new cash flow would that have provided and would it have justified the expense for development?
I'm sortof dancing around my real point here: I think the *real* reason so much time has gone buy since XP is that Microsoft really hasn't had much incentive to release a new OS.
...why should we believe anything that Microsoft says about the feature set of a distant-future operating system? Furthermore, the days of geek dominance of the computer world are long over -- average people simply don't care what bells and whistles an OS has. They want to send email, play games, browse the web, play movies, organize their music, and write a few reports. Without having to worry about their computer being infected. All of those things are properly OS-agnostic: Firefox with Gmail and Flash, VLC and OpenGL work much the same on any modern OS. The only reasons for MS's continuing OS dominance are inertia, the forced tie-in with its flagship business apps, and DRM.
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
One of the things I remember Gates talking about excitedly for the past 10 years is his R&D in Speach Recognition. He's been dreaming about the seamless and natural interaction of computers and humans for a long time. I wouldn't be surpised if Vienna really happened because it's the one thing Bill has poured his life and energy into for over a decade. Anybody who follows Gates knows that he has been serious about speach recognition for a long time.
Aren't windows code names traditionally cities? The fact that they are using a contry name for an upgraded version of Vista that experienced a military coup d'état a year ago (while vista development was in full swing) makes me wonder if this is a bad omen.
What's not simple about using Linux? People always seem to view any Linux distro as a failed attempt to emulate the current Windows UI, which isn't what it's designed to be. Any OS is simple if it's the one you've always used.
It's ironic that so many people reject Linux based on the occasional need to drop the menus and graphics in favour of the CLI, when that would logically be the "simplest" an OS could get.
I find Windows XP a pain to navigate, and never understood why so many people regard it as the easy option.
As for "file locations" being managed by applications - mmm, no thanks, I rather group files by projects which can involve many applications. What I'd really love is a return to the functionality present in Word for DOS, where the application would look in the current working directory for project specific configuration files.
Anybody who follows Gates knows that he has been serious about speach (sic) recognition for a long time.
It's hard for anyone who does not "follow" the cult of Gates to take anything he says seriously. He's been promising the moon and stars for decades but has yet to deliver anything but mild UI modifications. Generally, his company writes down a wish list of competitor's features and promises to deliver them bigger and better in his "next" release. As the years roll by he drops all of the features until he's left with something like Vista, which offerst the user little beyond DRM madness and a UI upgrade, which he then invariably promotes as "revolutionary".
Despite all of that, I thought he liked to talk about handwriting recognition. You know, the tablet PC, that' he's promissed the world since the Apple Newton. Palm, OpenZarus and Xstroke all beat him to the punch and his tablet PC has yet to catch on.
He might as well claim his next OS will have AI and do "seemless" speech recognition. He won't loose much credibility that way. At this point, he's got so little to use, I'd sooner believe penis pill spam.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
"There are lies, damned lies, and Microsoft promises."
We've heard it all before. Seriously. And it happens just like that: "Yeah, we know XP isn't that much of an upgrade to MS-Windows 2k, but you should see Longhorn! Oh, it's gonna be great! It'll milk your cows, skim the cream, and make fresh ice cream! It'll put your kids through college! Oh, and it'll, uh, make your complexion clear up, and get rid of your herpes!"
Every time Microsoft releases a less-than-stellar product (which is invariably), they start bragging about how great things will be in the *next* release, on which they haven't even started working. That's the Microsoft modus operandi: promise more than the competition currently has, and deliver less. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
Take the points in the parent posting, and add:
50+ millions lines of code bloat
lots of stupid, unnecessary eye candy
alleged security features, some that have already been broken ("most secure o/s ever", my ass)
a virgin ip stack
DRM silliness
kernel restrictions that keep third party security systems out -- said systems having done a much better job than Microsquish at keeping the bad guys out. You can, of course, pay extra for windows "defender" -- somewhat like buying an antidote from the people that poisoned you in the first place
As Ren and Stimpy might say to Ballmer, "you eeeediot!"
It's Linux, damnit! Pay no attention to renaming attempts by self-aggrandizing blowhards.
So by the time large companies have started to deploy Vista, there will be a new version of windows out that they'll be plugging to mr and mrs Corporate world, pointing out, in the process, all the things that were wrong with Vista or needed changing, in order to get purchase orders in for the new stuff.
Somehow I don't see this as a viable plan.
Incremental service pack based improvements to Vista? Yes indeedy, but a completely new OS? What a stupid idea. They do, after all, sell to the Corporate world, and that does not like complete change in IT infrastructure every two years
Even Babblefish, could, translate better than, this if it, were completely broken on, a bad day.
Since Win2000, I have been disappointed with Microsoft's continual failure to depart from their OS kernel model that makes them persistently vulnerable and unstable. I recall attending some Microsoft presentation discussing the upcoming release of Windows 2000. I raised my hand to ask a simple question:
"Will Windows 2000 have the drivers running at ring-0?"
The answer was initially "what does that mean?" and eventually, "yes it will."
This isn't Win32's only source of vulnerability and instability, but it's certainly among them. And the obvious solution was virtualization. Back before Win2000's release (and each release thereafter) I had hoped to see something along the lines of WINE or some sort of virtualization mode for compatibility and a "native mode" for all modern releases of applications.
And when MacOSX came out and did precisely what I had hoped Windows would do, not only was I pleased to discover that my idea wasn't unique but that it was workable and functionable. (Well, sort of... I have been supporting a production environment that involves MacOS in Classic mode and while it basically works, it's not quite stable... no more stable than Windows is in its present form anyway.) But it also served as proof that Microsoft COULD have done this and probably SHOULD have done this.
Perhaps they WILL do this eventually, but will it be soon enough?
I love to hate Microsoft, honestly, but for the good of the IT world at large, I'd just rather see Microsoft fix their crap and let's just get on with things. If Linux continues to grow and improve as it has been, I'd rather see further adoption based on its present and future merits rather than because of the faults in Microsoft products.
IPX and AppleTalk are dead. Vint said it best... IP Everywhere.
And here's the timeline for 'Vienna':
2007 Q1 Vista released; work on Vienna begins.
2007 Q4 Microsoft announces Vienna will contain innovative new filesystem
2008 Q2 Microsoft projects release date for 'Vienna' as late 2010 or early 2011
2008 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna will revolutionize the internet desktop
2009 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna's filesystem will make search irrelevant
2009 Q4 Microsoft projects release date for Vienna as second half of 2011
2010 Q1 Microsoft announces Vienna will be inherently more secure than Vista
2010 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna's new API will make developers' jobs easy
2010 Q4 Microsoft announces Vienna will have built-in internet telephony (VOIP)
2011 Q2 Microsoft projects release date for Vienna in early 2012
2011 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna will work with next-generation security hardware
2012 Q1 Microsoft announces partnership with wireless internet provider to enhance Vienna's
internet telephony, allowing users to go "unplugged"
2012 Q2 Microsoft projects Vienna release date pushed back to 2013
2012 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna's wireless internet telephony will make cellphones obsolete
2013 Q1 Microsoft announces Vienna's wireless internet telephony will be more secure than cellphones
2013 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna kernel will be most secure OS kernel ever
2013 Q4 Microsoft projects Vienna release date in early 2014
2014 Q1 Microsoft announces the new filesystem may not be ready for RTM but will ship
just after Vienna in a service pack
2014 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna public beta will be forthcoming later in the year
2014 Q3 Microsoft announces the new developer API will be spun off as a separate project from Vienna
2014 Q4 Microsoft promises Vienna release no later than 2015 Q2
2015 Q1 Deal with wireless internet company falls through
2015 Q2 Microsoft announces innovative filesystem will be in release after Vienna
2015 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna will still feature "unplugged" internet telephony,
but user will have choice of third-party wireless providers
2015 Q3 Microsoft releases limited beta of Vienna to select individuals and companies
2015 Q3 Reviews of Vienna start coming out; reviewers note internet telephony not present
2015 Q4 Microsoft announces final product name for Vienna will be Windows Fiesta
2015 Q4 Microsoft confirms internet telephony will not be ready to ship with first release
2016 Q1 Microsoft releases public beta of Fiesta to a wider audience
2016 Q2 Microsoft announces final release date for Fiesta in November; nobody believes it
2016 October Microsoft announces Windows Fiesta will be available to select customers in
November, retail version will ship in January
2016 November Microsoft announces Fiesta now available to select customers
2017 January Microsoft actually releases Windows Fiesta
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
That's a pretty bold statement.
A couple I do some work for bought a brand new machine; it happened to be 64bit. They noticed lots of problems that their "old" machine didn't have.
For example, programs they relied on (quickbooks was the major one) didn't play nice with 64-bit. In fact, most of their store-bought programs didn't work with 64bit.
Their choice was to buy new versions of this software (though some of this software didn't have a version compatible with 64-bit machines yet...) and spend more than $1000, or return the 64bit machine and get their old one back (gift to their daughter).
Operating systems and platforms simply cannot advance as quickly as they want, and leave software behind.
MS don't know what will be in Vienna, because Apple haven't invented it yet. This means nothing to me.
Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious
I have no use for Vista or any of it's follow ups.
I have no interest in an operating system designed to protect content owners, protect microsoft with horrible activation functionality and little to no benefit to myself.
If I didn't require Windows for work I'd have nothing to do with it. I've been a long time Windows user since Windows 3.1 and each release seemed to be such a major improvement over the previous. Until Vista. Vista is not a users operating system. It's more of a prison.
Any story about Saddam's execution on /. would most likely just be people debating the quality (or lack there of) of the knot used on the rope he hung from. (Looked pretty mean!)
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Voice recognition is a stupid way to enter text into a computer. In a cubicle, where your neighbours can hear you it's completely annoying. In your house, where you have the TV on in the background and kids continually talking, I can't imagine it would work that well, Unless you had a silent office where you weren't going to bother other people, I couldn't see this being an advantage. And even then, People don't talk how they write. If most people saw what they said written down on the screen, they wouldn't even be able to understand it. Keyboards work a lot better for entering text.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
Speech recognition is 'nice' - but that's it. I cannot imagine an office full of people all gabbling at their PCs without going nuts.
Few things I'd like to see are:
1) Tight integration to client devices. I stuck MCE onto my PC and it really was a pleasure to see my TV stuff picked up by their lovely BDA drivers and all that Tivo stuff appear. Whilst that was nice, it was nowhere near the f'in quantum leap when I pointed my 360 at my big PC over the wifi and got all those features suddenly appearing on my 40" screen.
Wifi implementation is very cheap and MS are normally good at allowing 3rd parties to access their tech (unlike Apple), yet have not quite managed to sell it very well. I'd like a clock radio that played my podcasts etc - I think I just like the idea of having a big central PC that can do all the heavy lifting and a number of thin clients that can all access it (and not all have to have their own bespoke software running on the back end).
2) Haptic stuff. Look at the Wii. Could be basic stuff like a laptop just turning off the screen if there's nobody sitting infront of it or mouse gestures like strokeit integrated into the GUI.
3) Telephony. I've no idea why I have an IP deskphone and laptop sitting on my desk. They have messenger which provides perfectly good person to person calls, they have outlook that provides a centralized mail and calendar resource - can't they just bolt on telephony? Point my deskphone number to my laptop wherever it is, divert to mobile if my PC is off, hold calls if I'm in a meeting etc?
4) Have some balls when it comes to hardware manufacturers. Apple is able to say 'right, we're using the new bios thingie' and make the hardware. MS tentatively seems to make steps towards it, but continuously supports old stuff. Now I know they have to support the old stuff and I know many people appreciate it - but they need to clearly define what hardware they want people to use to optimize 'the experience' and tell Dell. They have started to do this with the Vista certification - I've no idea why people bitch abotu this, but if you want flashy graphics, you need a decent PC and you need people to be able to buy that decent PC with confidence. The quasi-flash drives supported under Vista are a good thing - but I WANT MORE.
5) Better implementation of Bluetooth (and whatever comes along next). I'd love to be able to have my PC boot up (maybe into hibernation) when my phone walks in through the door. Popup on my phone screen with a summary (at least) when I get an email.
Just reading through my points, it seems I want integration. I may be in a minority as most people here seem to get their knickers in a twist when MS bundle a browser with XP - but I want all my stuff to just work together nicely and out of the box. I can't expect MS to support every device, but maybe if they just published some open standards (or formally adopted the perfectly good open ones we already have) hardware manufacturers WOULD comply (as I would buy).
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This sounds more like Service Pack 1 of Vista. Of course, calling it that would be admitting that maybe they didn't get everything right the first time. I'm sure the very idea that Microsoft wouldn't get something right the first time comes as a major shock to Slashdot readers. :-p
Seriously, though, announcing a new "updated" version and your next-generation OS strikes me as a really good way to tank initial sales, particularly in the business arena. A good many CIO's have finally gotten it that it's usually a good idea to wait for SP-1 of any MS OS before rolling out, and "leaking" that an SP1 (by whatever name) is being released in two years pretty much seals it for them. Not that there was tremendous enthusiasm for migration in the first place. This is actually a good time for Linux to start trying to push itself onto the business desktop. You have MS not releasing an OS on time, let alone reliable hardware requirements until the last minute, there's no compelling application which can't be run on XP, and they're hinting at a new release in two years. All of which is not calculated to be endearing to someone who's in charge of a major rollout.
The "next generation OS" sounds like a bunch of wishful thinking, more than any actual code.
Linux shared libraries are quite different from DLLs. The shared library mechanism on *NIX systems has features that mitigate a lot of the problems of "DLL hell".
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Like Windows is perfect. There are continues virus and malware problems with Windows, they aren't going to get any better. Even if Microsoft releases Windows Vista or Windows whatever becose Microsoft has no sense of how to make up a internet secure Os. The Windows base is from the time when the internet was only used by a few people and the government, and few corpartions. There is also the fact the Windows basic structure is flawed, both on the user level and security wise. No secure operation system demands that the first user of the system is automatic admin. Yet, Microsoft does this and many people find that ok to be that way.
Linux is ready for the desktop market and has been ready for long time. Saying something else is either based on ignorance or is just a fud.
I defy you (or anyone over the age of 4) to do that sort of thing in Windows with a mouse.
But honestly, if the shell is something you complain about then you probably are better off with microsoft products. Small-minded software for small-minded users.
Hate to remind you of this, but more than half of the population is equal to or less than than average intelligence. A Linux geek telling them they are small-minded for using industry standards results in IT dept's getting underfunded, and surprise, surprise, Linux going nowhere. Try explaining to your boss, and his boss, and so on that they are small-minded. Be an idealist all you want. Until you get over that attitude, you and your non-Microsoft OS's will go nowhere. You can tell me otherwise upside-down, but you clearly have no idea how businesses work. Boss: What, that dip in IT is going to tell how I want to use my computer? Well I will just tell him where to place his next paycheck. We clearly have strong ideas on both issues.
Anyway, this should have been modded flamebait.
Our shared libraries support useful versioning. A program gets linked against a library by name, but it records the major version of the library that it used. When you run it, it looks for the newest library with that name and major version. Libraries get new major versions when they change in non-backwards-compatible ways and only new minor versions for bug fixes and backwards-compatible improvements. Also, when a version is supposed to be backwards-compatible, it's generally actually backwards-compatible.
DLLs are only bad because you can't set up a system with a sufficiently complete collection of them at the same time that every program will get the DLL it needs. Just because Microsoft's implementation of something is terminally broken doesn't mean it's not otherwise a great idea.
Wait... are they already admitting Vista was a bad move? ;)
Or just sentence fragments. Sometimes it can be so difficult. To tell if the author is simply illiterate. That he can't tell where commas go. Or sometimes just spaces. That makes it confusing. As well as looking dumb.
I defy you (or anyone over the age of 4) to do that sort of thing in Windows with a mouse.
Visual Basic. It doesn't get any easier than that. I have a small mind, so I'd rather use what's left of my small mind to do things that are more entertaining than learning shell scripting.
You appear very fast to judge things, but I think you might be missing a big piece of the action there, or the potential action, most likely because you are younger and still fit. I am guessing on that though.
In a perfect world what you said makes some sense, but think on this: In the US the population is aging. Younger folks are a minority, and guess what? You'll get old, too. With aging comes afflictions like arthritis. Once you get it, even a twinge, you'll understand how incredibly $valuable$ and how incredibly useful a voice activated system could be. The first company to really nail it will be rich beyond the dreams of avarice as the expression goes.
MY GF has it in her hands, sometimes she just sits and cries because her hands are on fire,that's how she describes it, like being on fire, and then she can't do anything, nothing that requires any dexterity at all. She used to do fine painting, a lot of intense sewing, etc, stuff like that, but can't anymore. Typing is just out, and there are many many millions like her out there now. It's like having no fingers at all, but it hurts. She can only type very slowly and painfully and because of that hardly uses her computer anymore.
Now, how abvout blind folks? Think it might be a handy option for them as well? How about folks with anything like palsy? Heck, I am thinking for me, say I am out working on some vehicle and I want to look something up. Spend 5 minutes with the degreaser before I go touch the keyboard, or just yammer at it to get to where I want to get, and print it out? Useful there too.
Sure, I'm grasping at straws here, but...
Vienna, in the local language, is spelt 'Wein'. If you pronounce that as an English speaker, you might say it in the same way you say 'Wine'. Wine, as a few people know, is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix. Perhaps Microsoft don't like the idea of such software, and want to produce a product that confuses users of Wine. Or maybe they'll do away with their development line completely, and Wine will become the next version of Windows.
Then Microsoft will be able to expand out the acronym to something like:
"Windows Emulator, it's not!" or "Windows Is Not an Emulator"!
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As we all know that Microsoft Vista was originally scheduled to be released in 2003, after two years of Windows XP, but it got delayed by over five years...
...but the delayed in the launch has cost Microsoft, billions of dollars.
Call my math fuzzy (it's happened before) but if it was originally scheduled to be released in 2003, and it's being released in 2007, then the delay was less than five years...
I've heard similar figures thrown out before, but where do these figures come from? How has the delay cost them? One could argue it has resulted in lost revenue, but XP was still selling well during that time and Vista will be making its sales now. Delayed revenue perhaps, but lost? Are they talking perhaps money spent on developers and such? That might be a point, but billions? What would be the reference for that?
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...makes perfect sense. The respective locations are where the execs plan on getting drunk and laid when the complaints in the US reach critical mass.
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Speech recognition is one of Vista's best implemented features. In fact, the other day I was talking to my aunt...
Delete that.
Let's set so double the killer delete select all.
Damn!
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Redmond, Washington. April 2009:
..."
"We are announcing the Christmas Season release of Windows Klagenfurt. Designed as the replacement to what was code named Vienna, we wanted to draw upon the more phonetically inclusive nature of that town as a metaphor to reflect the diversity of rich experience to be found in this newest Windows release.
***
Remark from Steve Jobs:
"Windows Klagenfurt, hmm? So they picked a name that's as easy to pronounce as it is to maintain the security."
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