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New Superbug Weapon to Replace Failing Antibiotics

An anonymous reader writes "Researchers in British Columbia have identified a peptide that can fight infection by boosting the immune system. Because antibiotics are under threat due to an explosion of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, this may be just in time."

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  1. Frosting by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I won't take it unless it comes with mint frosting.

  2. I hope not by DogDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, hope it doesn't work. I have a lot of shotgun shells and canned foods that will go to waste if my prediction of bacteria wiping out the human race doesn't come true.

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    1. Re:I hope not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm more curious what the shotguns shells would be for myself, who is he planning on shooting?

      The zombies created by the superbug, of course, silly.
    2. Re:I hope not by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 2, Funny

      I, for one, hope it doesn't work. I have a lot of shotgun shells and canned foods that will go to waste if my prediction of bacteria wiping out the human race doesn't come true.

      Dude... if you're hoping to fight bacteria that's large enough to attack with a shotgun, I don't think this treatment is any threat to those dreams. ;)

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    3. Re:I hope not by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 2, Funny

      there would still be lots of porn, music, etc. just no lines.

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  3. Quick. by Original+Replica · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's inject it into all our livestock.

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    1. Re:Quick. by antarctican · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Let's inject it into all our livestock.

      Close, that's another project....

      I didn't know we were allowed to talk about the peptide publicly yet. I guess the cat is out.

      I've been working on the bioinformatics side of this project for over four years now, and it was very exciting when Bob and the guys in the lab made this discovery.

      This really is a great new solution, prevent infection before it takes hold. Make the innate immune system stronger. Since no new classes of drugs have been developed for what, a decade? Just rehashing the same old types of drugs again and again, this is at least something new and promising.

  4. Source? by Piedramente · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do I have a hard time trusting a source like "curedeath.com"?

    1. Re:Source? by RMB2 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I found that sketchy too, but check out this recent comment on the article:

      2. Eric
      3/28/2007 6:44:30 PM MST

      Hello,

      It seems that curingdeath.com are a bunch of thieving asshats.

      http://www.publicaffairs.ubc.ca/media/releases/200 7/mr-07-030.html?src=ubcca

      I hope you get sued, you bunch of spamming jackoffs.
      I wonder if Eric is actually an estute /.er
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  5. Re:Headline missing a keyword by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, the mangled title warps the entire premise, which is that there is a new weapon against superbugs that doesn't involve creating more super-antibiotics to fight the super bugs (which of course will just eventually lead to a massive super bug some day that will kill you before you can treat it since everyone is a big baby and rushes out to get antibiotics at the first sniffle).

  6. Over-prescribed by SpiffyMarc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe if we didn't prescribe an antibiotic for everything that can ever go wrong with a person, there wouldn't be so many resistant strains.

    Sniffles? Take an antibiotic.

    1. Re:Over-prescribed by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe if we didn't prescribe an antibiotic for everything that can ever go wrong with a person, there wouldn't be so many resistant strains.
      The #1 problem for Doctors is:
      1. patient takes meds
      2. patient starts to feel better
      3. patient stops

      Patients who do not finish their course of medication, do not kill all the bacteria.

      Maybe if people were compliant with Doctors' orders you wouldn't have resistant strains cropping up.

      It's easy to blame the doctors, try looking beyond that.
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    2. Re:Over-prescribed by Bryan+B. · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is soccer moms who absolutely insist that their kid needs an antibiotic no matter how much you tell her its a virus and antibiotics are futile.

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    3. Re:Over-prescribed by archen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Although you narrowed that down to soccer moms, the reality is people in general think they should always get something from a doctor. Nevermind that you might just be sick and need some rest and some time, that's sheer silliness. If I recall correctly doctors prescribed antibiotics something like 30% of the time when the patient did not need them.

    4. Re:Over-prescribed by Gordo_1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But that's the whole point. The average person *can't* be trusted to take all their antibiotics, so the problem continues because the path of least resistance (and most profit) for doctors is to succumb to the demands of their patients. The inevitable long-term result is that antibiotics will no longer work and the death rate from bacterial infections will gradually return to the rate at which it naturally stood for thousands of years before antibiotics were discovered.

      In the short-term, we can slow the deteriorating effectiveness of antibiotics by mandating hard restrictions on the prescription of antibiotics.

    5. Re:Over-prescribed by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, stopping when you feel better is a pretty good idea. The bug is gone, and the body will take care of the rest. The more time you expose organisms to antibiotics, the more time they have to adapt to it.

      It doesn't work that way. When you're infected, some of the bacteria have more resistance than others -- resistance is a fairly complicated trait; it's not binary. So if you stop "as soon as you feel better," what this means is that you've killed off just enough of the least resistant bacteria so that you don't notice the symptoms of infection any more; there are still plenty of somewhat-more-but-not-completely resistant bacteria in your body, and you've created a massive selective pressure favoring those strains. Whereas if you finish the prescribed course of antibiotics, you're wiping out all but the very most resistant -- and that's likely to be a fairly small number, which your immune system can indeed deal with on its own, now that most of the bacteria overall are out of they way.

      I hate to bring up such a politically charged analogy, but this is the best way I can think of to explain it: suppose you're planning to invade a country and eliminate all resistance. You have two courses of action available:

      (a) Attack, keep attacking, kill anyone who resists, and even after visible resistance has ceased, keep aggressively patrolling every square foot of the country until well after you're sure that everyone who might oppose your rule is dead.

      (b) Attack, kill off the most visible opponents, ease up until a rebellion starts, kill a few more people until things quiet down, ease up until a rebellion starts, kill a few more people ...

      Which option do you think is likely to be most effective? Conversely, which one do you think is most likely to produce a hardened and pretty much ineradicable resistance? Hint: (b) is pretty much what people who stop taking antibiotics as soon as they feel better are doing.

      Of course, my analogy should only be interpreted in medical terms. Doesn't have anything to do with anything else that's going on in the world. Uh-uh. Not a bit. No sirree.

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    6. Re:Over-prescribed by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative

      The average person *can't* be trusted to take all their antibiotics,
      Yea... that's what I said

      so the problem continues because the path of least resistance (and most profit) for doctors is to succumb to the demands of their patients.
      I fail to see how you got to this conclusion.
      You went from step 1 to profit without filling in the question marks.
      What exactly are the "demands of their patients" and what does it have to do with patient non-complaince?

      The inevitable long-term result is that antibiotics will no longer work and the death rate from bacterial infections will gradually return to the rate at which it naturally stood for thousands of years before antibiotics were discovered.
      That's inline with what I said, but I attributed it to patient non-compliance, which breeds drug resistant bacteria.

      OTOH, you attribute it to overperscription of antibiotics. To counter that assertion, consider that drug resistant strains of HIV are showing up. Are you going to argue that HIV retro-virals are being overperscribed?

      Here's what the World Health Organization has to say:
      When HIV replication is not fully suppressed, drug resistance results. This situation is frequently linked to non-compliance of ARV therapy.

      Google will provide you numerous articles saying the exact same thing about:
      Hepatitis
      Tuberculosis
      Staph-A aka MRSA
      Malaria
      and that's just off the top of my head.

      I'll concede that antibiotics in animal feed is leading to drug resistant bugs showing up in the human population, but I stand by my assertion that amongst humans, non-compliance (not overperscription) is the main cause of drug resistant bacteria and virii in the USA.
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    7. Re:Over-prescribed by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, stopping when you feel better is a pretty good idea. The bug is gone

            Clearly you have no idea how this process works. You have merely transformed an infection into a subclinical infection. You haven't killed all the bacteria by any means. You've just killed the most vulnerable ones - enough to allow what was bothering you - the swollen tissue, massive release of histamine, bradykinin, etc that was causing you pain.

            Oh you feel better - but bacteria are still there - and these are the ones that were harder to kill. The more resistant ones. Oh you may or may not have a relapse. You are no longer infected, but you are colonized. And these resistant bacteria you can pass on to other people, or they can come back to haunt you with a resistant infection at a later date.

            Bacterial suceptibility to antibiotics is dose dependent. I could kill all bacteria with a massive dose of any drug, but I would probably kill you, too.

            We determine an effective dose at which almost ALL bacteria are inhibited/destroyed. The treatment time isn't a number we pull out of our backsides - it's determined statistically as the shortest time at which virtually all bacteria are killed (ie, cultures of the affective site turn negative), at the effective dose. Yes most bacteria are killed in the first couple days. But diminishing returns means that we need to keep giving the antibiotic for a longer time to make sure vitually all (if not all) bacteria are eradicated.

            What you propose is worthy of the "Tom Cruise Medical Award". Make sure you clean your Thetans while you're at it.

            On the other hand you make a vaild point. Most patients EXPECT an antibiotic, and hate us when they go home with the "take a tylenol and get some rest" line. It puts a lot of pressure on a doc who makes his living from "word of mouth" advertising.

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    8. Re:Over-prescribed by turing_m · · Score: 2, Funny

      You've got it all wrong. Treating disease has never been about eliminating bacteria. After all, we've reached the end of history already (when was that? some time in the late 80s?), such concepts are so early twentieth century. Treating disease is more akin to a clash of civilizations, and the only cure is the eternal spread of democracy coupled with a reformation of bacterial ideology.

      Once those bacteria start listening to Britney Spears, waving their purple stained pseudopods in the plasma and embrace democracy, they'll stop the endless bloodshed and start acting like civilized Americans!

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    9. Re:Over-prescribed by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative
      Part 1:

      An observation does not a logical argument make.

      Step 1. "The average person *can't* be trusted to take all their antibiotics,"
      Step 2. ???
      Step 3. "so the problem continues because the path of least resistance (and most profit) for doctors is to succumb to the demands of their patients"

      My contention is that doctors are the enablers of this over-prescription epidemic, so I place responsibility squarely on the medical establishment rather than patients themselves.
      Is that your step 2?
      It sounds like a rehash of step 3, but with an extra helping of blame for the doctors.

      No offense, but you still haven't created an argument, much less one backed with facts. I've explained my position & backed it up with facts. Please do the same.

      Part 2:

      "I'm not sure that it's an over-prescription problem in the same sense, but similar selection factors may be at work."

      So are you again suggesting that doctors are to blame, but this time, not through overprescriptions?

      AFAIK, there is:
      1. Patient Compliance
      2. Patient Non-compliance
      2 b. Patient Partial compliance
      3. Doctor over prescription

      Your statement doesn't seem to fit into any of the above categories.
      Please elaborate on these "similar selection factors" and plug them into my 1-3 framework (feel free to add whatever numbers or sub-sections you need)

      Conclusion:

      There are reasonable arguments to be made for your position (I could argue it either way), but you aren't making them & I suspect you're just talking out your ass based on what you 'feel' is right. I encourage you to get facts or gtfo.
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  7. Waaa, Doctor Help Me by DoktorSeven · · Score: 2

    If people wouldn't run to their doctor every time they get a little sniffle, we wouldn't have this problem.

    Let your body fight off problems on its own. Only go for help when it's really life-threatening. Your "busy" life can wait a few days while you get better.

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    1. Re:Waaa, Doctor Help Me by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, there has never ever ever ever been any causal link between antibiotic prescriptions for personal, in-home use and the development of antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Given the number of studies by people trying to scare people away from antibioitics, it is likely that such a link simply does not exist, as it would likely have been found by now if it did.

      Antibiotic resistance develops as a direct result of hospital use of antibiotics. Unfortunately, hospital use usually equates with life-threatening. The reason that resistant strains take hold in hospitals is that you have a higher concentration of sick people breathing the same air, using some of the same shared facilities, etc. with doctors and nurses moving from patient to patient. As much as they try to minimize the spread of illness among patients, it still occurs, and unlike in your home, the people in the hospital are often already sick or in poor health, and are thus more susceptible to bacteria that (barely) survived a round of antibiotics.

      By contrast, letting yourself "wait a few days while you get better" from bacterial infections has been linked to numerous diseases, including several varieties of arthritis, rheumatic fever, Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, and even heart damage. Waiting it out is absolutely the worst thing you can do.

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    2. Re:Waaa, Doctor Help Me by wkk2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My mother was a nurse trained in the 40's. Since this was before major antibiotic use, significant training was about sanitation control. No wrist watches (since you might not wash), how to change bed sheets (to minimize airborne dust), and proper washing.

      Now we have keyboards, remote controls, and all kinds of stuff that can't be cleaned. She died from an infection carried by improperly sterilized diagnostic equipment.

      Today, hospital care seems to be more about pushing pills and foregoing the basics so it's no wonder we have resistant bugs.

    3. Re:Waaa, Doctor Help Me by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, there has never ever ever ever been any causal link between antibiotic prescriptions for personal, in-home use and the development of antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria.

            Funny, these guys seem to disagree with you. Specifically: "Clinical misuse of antibiotics may be more common among private practitioners than among public health personnel--private practitioners charge higher fees, the demand for antibiotics seen in private patients is higher, and more drugs are available in private clinics than in public hospitals "

            Oh look, so do these guys. My search returned over 100 hits and it's really not my job to educate you, so I won't go on. But there IS a causal link. Ask any infectious disease specialist and s/he will cite a lot more articles for you.

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    4. Re:Waaa, Doctor Help Me by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, there has never ever ever ever been any causal link between antibiotic prescriptions for personal, in-home use and the development of antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Given the number of studies by people trying to scare people away from antibioitics, it is likely that such a link simply does not exist, as it would likely have been found by now if it did.

      First wrong statement: Overprescription of antibiotics for (presumably viral) ear infections has been strongly linked to various strains of drug resistant streptoocci and staphylococci.

      Antibiotic resistance develops as a direct result of hospital use of antibiotics. Unfortunately, hospital use usually equates with life-threatening. The reason that resistant strains take hold in hospitals is that you have a higher concentration of sick people breathing the same air, using some of the same shared facilities, etc. with doctors and nurses moving from patient to patient. As much as they try to minimize the spread of illness among patients, it still occurs, and unlike in your home, the people in the hospital are often already sick or in poor health, and are thus more susceptible to bacteria that (barely) survived a round of antibiotics.

      This paragraph is an interesting mix of logic, illogic and just incorrect statements. While there are certainly strains of bacteria whose resistance is linked to hospital use of antibiotics, it is no where near correct to state that this is a totality or even a majority of cases. Bacteria aren't terribly bright, just persistent. Stick some antibiotics in their culture medium, wherever it happens to be, and somebody's bound to come out alive. It's just selection pressure in action. In the hospital, in the home, in the cattle yard.

      By contrast, letting yourself "wait a few days while you get better" from bacterial infections has been linked to numerous diseases, including several varieties of arthritis, rheumatic fever, Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, and even heart damage. Waiting it out is absolutely the worst thing you can do.

      Just what the hell are you talking about? While there are diseases that are due to an immune response set up by a bacterial infection, for example, rheumatic heart fever from streptococcal sore throat (and there are several others), I don't think you will find any evidence to support your claim that stomping out every bacterial infection the instant it starts (and you know this just how?) will help you in any way. In fact, for strep throat, it is quite clear that you have ten entire days after the onset of symptoms to start antibiotics in order to prevent rheumatic heart fever. While there are some interesting hints that some chronic diseases, such as atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) is linked to chronic low grade bacterial infections, the current longitudinal studies where they have given people antibiotics for several years on a regular basis have failed to show any real decrease in heart disease. There are a number of flaws in these studies, the most striking is that they have been too short (one or two years) but my point is that simply taking antibiotics at the first instant of an infection (and again, how to you know this??) doesn't seem to help the immune system modulated damage. It's way harder than that.

      And for all of the rest of you folks. The living organism isn't just a petri dish, the immune system modulates and in fact is responsible for most of the clearance of bacterial infections. You don't have to kill every damned little microorganism, in fact, if you do you tend to create other problems. You just have to let the immune system get an upper hand. It's a very complicated problem. Anybody here taken a good, hard look at what we know about the immune system lately? Your head will asplode. We don't know nearly as much as we need to in order to deal with the complex problem of bacterial

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    5. Re:Waaa, Doctor Help Me by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Those particular studies are pretty easy to discount. Developing countries != modern society, and the other one did not come to the conclusion you suggest. It showed a number of factors that lead to the difference, the most critical of which was the spread of resistant bacteria among infants in day care. Unless I missed something, it did NOT claim a causal relationship between higher prescription of antibiotics and greater frequency of antibiotic resistance, and indeed, at one point in the paper actually mentioned another study that showed that greater antibiotic prescription resulted in a lower incidence of death due to certain devastating bacterial infections.

      Look, I'm not saying that antibiotic resistance can't ever occur as a result of use of antibiotics in someone's home, but odds are good that most of the time, the infected person will get another antibiotic and the infection will clear up. The end result is that over the course of the few days afterwards, any remaining bacteria in the home will die, and thus, there is only a narrow window of opportunity for those resistant bacteria to spread significantly. This is not true in hospitals, which is the reason why such a large percentage of antibiotic-resistant strains in the wild came from hospitals.

      The other breeding ground for antibiotic-resistant strains is food animals. Because antibiotics are given prophylactically, non-antibiotic-resistant bacteria in food animals tend to quickly die out, opening the door for their more resistant counterparts to take over....

      The correct approach to antibiotics is this: if you are sick, go to the doctor. If the doctor thinks it is bacterial, don't be an idiot and refuse the antibiotic. If the doctor thinks it is viral, similarly don't be an idiot and demand one. And if you have kids, don't use antibacterial soap. Let your kids play in the dirt. Let their immune systems develop like they are supposed to.

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  8. Immunology by HomelessInLaJolla · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a representation of some very adept work by researchers at Inimex and some well spent funding by CIHR.

    The human body has seven systems: muscoskeletal, reproductive, skin, cardiopulmonary, nervous, digestive, and immune. Many of the ailments which people experience--cancer, diabetes, neurodegenerative disorders, prion diseases, leukemia, infections--invade tissues of the six other systems but are ultimately traceable as a deficiency in their own immune system. The immune system is trained as the maintenance arm of the body. When cells become cancerous the immune system is trained to find and remove them. When viruses and bacteria enter the body the immune system is trained to kill them. When plaques build up in the body the immune system is trained to remove them. When cells are starving, or asphyxiated, or agitated it is the immune system which is responsible for transmitting the proper signals systemwide and stimulating other tissues to produce the materials necessary to fix the problem.

    The devoted study of immunology, of which the language which cells use to communicate with each other is central, has been pushed aside for many years by the larger, more established, more prestigious research groups both in academia and in the industry. When I worked at Abbott Laboratories, starting in '99, I found that their immunology department had recently been all but terminated in favor of shuffling the money to the devoted disease areas. While treating the diseases as separate from the body has led to some novel treatments (eg. antiangionesis and apoptosis for cancer) it seemed, to me, that a whole boatload of data which pointed to the potential cures available within the body itself were being ignored--not because they lacked scientific merit--but because the social structures within the company (and the industry) were attached to the research paths which were easier for the marketers and PR releases to handle.

    To some extent that's the way things must work. The venture capitalists and investors need to know where their money is going or else they aren't going to contribute. That's a sad state of society, though, when one group's ignorance is stifling another group's innovation.

    The study of immunology has quite a bit of potential for worldwide medicine. ImClone managed to open the popular path with its approach of monoclonal antibodies, though that segment was somewhat sabotaged by the insider trading scandal. Let's hope that companies like Inimex, and hopefully some companies in the US, will begin to devote greater resources to understanding how the body naturally works and working with it. Many of the detrimental side effects of today's pharmaceuticals are directly related to the immune system's response to those molecules being introduced into the body. The industry has really created its own problem of side effects by buckling in to the demands of the financiers and not holding to the strict scientific principles.

    Even though they're in Vancouver I sent a resume.

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  9. Clean = Immune Retardation by PixieDust · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Part of the reason Antibiotics have been overprescribed is in our world of super ultra hygeine concious society, people are killing off all the germs they can everywhere. People sanitize their hands 50 times a day. This is all well and good, and healthy, but it also causes a problem. Without exposure to various germs, bacteria, etc. people's immune systems actually atrophy. So when they get a little bug that a 'normal' immune system could kick without much trouble, theirs can't, or they fraek out because they are ultra health concious, so they go to the Dr. Dr sees what's going on, prescribes an anti-biotic because John Q and Sally public are so afraid to go a few weeks with the sniffles and let it run their course.

    The end result is that a person's immune system no longer has to do it's job, job gets done for it. The immune system becoems weaker, they get sick more, then get more anti-biotics.

    Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

    1. Re:Clean = Immune Retardation by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2, Interesting

      but for the most part, we are still plenty disgusting.

      Your choice of words, and that outlook, are disturbing. We are stand-alone human animals, but we have complex symbiotic relationships with all the critters and bugs that live within and on us.

      'Getting clean' and 'excellent hygeine' are relative terms.

      What is a perfectly 'clean' dwelling? It is a chamber of death. Every living thing has been killed off.

      We exist in a world of the living, not sterile chambers. We need to cope with and live with the other 'stuff' around us.

    2. Re:Clean = Immune Retardation by rthille · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's why I have my kids lick the floors in public restrooms!

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    3. Re:Clean = Immune Retardation by belg4mit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't vaccinate against things for which there is no real reason to i.e; varicella (chicken pox).
      Stop putting triclosan, etc. in every fucking toiletry and soap under the sun.

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  10. Not a replacement by iamacat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Immune system just doesn't work well for fighting off certain bacteria, such as tuberculosis and antharax. Also, a lot of hospital infections happen to elderly, AIDS patients and otherwise people with weak immune system. Even with a booster, it would be better to develop substances that kill bacteria directly.

  11. Not FROM a superbug... by posterlogo · · Score: 4, Informative
    The post is very misleading (don't think the poster actually read TFA, surprise surprise). There's no new "Superbug" to replace old antibodies. The new immuno activating peptide was designed in a lab based on rules derived by analysing naturally occuring host peptides that trigger immunomodulatory responses. Superbugs have nothing to do with this. The peptide did not come from a bug, and it does not directly kill bugs either (which is what antibiotics do). This peptide simply stimulates the innate immune response to fight infection. The abstract from the paper is below:

    We show that an innate defense-regulator peptide (IDR-1) was protective in mouse models of infection with important Gram-positive and Gram-negative pathogens, including methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, vancomycin-resistant Enterococcus and Salmonella enterica serovar Typhimurium. When given from 48 h before to 6 h after infection, the peptide was effective by both local and systemic administration. Because protection by IDR-1 was prevented by in vivo depletion of monocytes and macrophages, but not neutrophils or B- and T-lymphocytes, we conclude that monocytes and macrophages are key effector cells. IDR-1 was not directly antimicrobial: gene and protein expression analysis in human and mouse monocytes and macrophages indicated that IDR-1, acting through mitogen-activated protein kinase and other signaling pathways, enhanced the levels of monocyte chemokines while reducing pro-inflammatory cytokine responses. To our knowledge, an innate defense regulator that counters infection by selective modulation of innate immunity without obvious toxicities has not been reported previously.

  12. Simple fix for this problem by LunaticTippy · · Score: 5, Funny

    We need to develop a new, superstrong antibiotic called Placebocillin. If that doesn't work, we can always try intravenous Cephplacebo.

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  13. Info is from a plagarism site/spam blog by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article is a link to a spam blog. The original content is in this press release, which was copied without attribution. The original source and contact information were removed, six ads were added, and a false claim of copyright was made.

    The people behind this are Web Doodle LLC of Missoula, MT, run (as of 2002) by Branden Long. They have other similar spam blogs.

    1. Re:Info is from a plagarism site/spam blog by peipas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jesus, they even list 2008 as the copyright. Talk about low maintenance.

    2. Re:Info is from a plagarism site/spam blog by fotbr · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you're going to copy it verbatim, you still need to attribute it to the original, NOT claim it as your own. Otherwise, press release or not, it is still plagiarism.

    3. Re:Info is from a plagarism site/spam blog by fotbr · · Score: 2, Informative

      I saw that, I just was pointing out that you can't just point to a google definition of press release to try to justify what you did.

  14. Am I the only one to misread it as... by lightspawn · · Score: 2, Funny

    "falling antibiotics" - and immediately think of Dr. Mario?

  15. Well, now, that's a nice way to put it. by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

    > Because antibiotics are under threat due to an explosion of antibiotic-resistant bacteria

    The antibotics are under threat--more accurately, we are under threat from those bacteria--because of poor medical practices. Not from everyone, of course, but from a tremendous number of people. (And the inefficiencies that have evolved into medicine are ridiculous, but that's another story--though one which makes it harder to rectify the real problems.) There are hundreds of hospitals that aren't strict about things like, for example, having people wash their hands before drawing blood, or, if they're putting on a new set of gloves to do it, not touching non-sterile surfaces until after they've drawn the blood. If you do that (and follow similar rules before starting an IV, etc...), you cut the number of staph infections down to almost nothing--to a tiny fraction of what they are otherwise. Just a few simple procedures...

    But there are hospitals where those procedures don't happen. On a regular basis. So staph is hundreds of times more prevalent than it would be if people--people who are supposedly trained--did a few simple things as part of their working habits. I'm thinking of one Canadian hospital where a relative of mine was for a few days, but similar incompetence happens in the states, too. There was a hospital in Hawaii where I know of them managing to break six of a patient's ribs in the days before he died. You need to know which hospitals to go to, and you need to keep your wits about you when you're there.

    Erm... Well, that was a bit of a rant. =)

  16. More snake oil by mrbluze · · Score: 4, Informative

    "We now have a powerful new tool that will allow us to stop infection before it starts -- it's a new concept in treating infection,"

    This is a very speculative and pretty dodgy article. Firstly, it's not a new concept (being healthy is the best tool for stopping infection before it starts, and, secondary to this, immunization, sanitation and quarantine).

    Secondly, drugs already exist which are used in severe sepsis to boost the immune system. These drugs are very dangerous and expensive and when used inappropriately cause as many deaths as they save lives.

    While it is true that antibiotic use is excessive, the situation we have is that the people who are getting the MRSA and VRE and other 'superbug' infections are frequently already immune compromised and, in whole body infection, invariably die without antibiotics - nothing else is proven to work without them.

    Also, it's a peptide. You can't take it as a tablet - it's not going to be on the shelves of your supermarket - and if it is, better off eating a hard boiled egg! If anything, it will be a small scale intravenous drug for use in intensive care units, usually when all else fails, just like all these other 'breakthrough' solutions.

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    1. Re:More snake oil by caffeine_monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's the press release from UBC, and a SCIAM article.

  17. Re:Headline missing a keyword by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a massive super bug some day that will kill you before you can treat it

    Except that antibiotic-resistant strains are generally less virulent than the old-fashioned kind. It doesn't mean they can't kill you, of course -- obviously they do kill people, all the time -- but most of their victims are already immunocompromised in some way (the very old, the very young, AIDS patients, chemotherapy patients, etc.) Generating the enzymes necessary for antibiotic resistance, such as penicillinase, represents a pretty significant metabolic load for the cell; every bit of energy it has to spend protecting itself from antibiotics is a bit it doesn't have available to spend on reproduction.

    I'm not trying to downplay the danger of antibiotic-resistant bacteria here, only pointing out that "superbug" is a relative term; just because they're tougher in one way doesn't mean they're tougher in all ways. For bacteria as for every other living thing, fitness is relative to environment.

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  18. Collateral damage? by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    'Scuse the possibly stupid question, since IANA(M)BOD (biologist/microbiologist or doctor), but what about the potential for damage to your own body as a result of a temporarily ramped up immune system?

    As I understand, this peptide temporarily boosts the immune system, which then is better able to fight off the invading organism. However, there are a number of medical conditions caused by an immune system that's a little too heightened--allergies for example, or a number of other, more serious conditions. When I was 21, I contracted "Rapidly Progressive Glomerulonephritis" which is a condition where the immune system attacks the nodules in your kidneys that filter your blood. I now have a kidney transplant as a result. Lupus, I believe, is another serious condition resulting from an overactive immune system.

    If we start prescribing this peptide the way we currently prescribe antibiotics, what are the chances that more than the patient's immune system will attack more than just the intended target? Also, what if, like me, you have an intentionally weakened immune system (to prevent transplant rejection), when you take this peptide? Will you be at greater risk to reject the transplant, since the transplanted organ is a foreign body?

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  19. QUIT FEEDING ANTIBIOTICS by JohnnyGTO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    to cows!!! and I don't mean fat chicks. Make it a crime against humanity.

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  20. Sounds good, but ... by quixote9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    - the peptide has to be injected within hours of -- or even before -- the infection. That means it's only likely to be useful in a hospital setting.

    - anything that boosts immune response in a non-specific way runs the risk of causing over-reaction, at least in some people. (Think about the six healthy volunteers in England who nearly died because of an unexpected immune response to the drug they were testing.) Again, that means it'll likely only be usable in a closely supervised, hospital setting.

    - since the publication is appearing in one of the Nature journals, you can be pretty sure this does exactly what it says it does, and really is a breakthrough for the particular immune response in question.

    - re the commenter earlier who said there was no evidence of antibiotic resistance appearing except due to hospital misuse: total claptrap. Just one example: antibiotic resistance has been documented developing in chickens and cattle due to antibiotics in the feed. Those bacteria can pass to humans. Sometimes they cause symptoms, sometimes they don't. But even when they don't, bacteria are capable of passing bits of DNA back and forth, and genes for antibiotic resistance are -- for obvious reasons -- among the likeliest to persist in bacterial populations. So, if you eat a tainted hamburger, say, or spinach, the disease-causing bacteria on that item can mix it up with the other bacteria in your gut, and there you are. Fun, huh?

  21. Boosted Immune system != Good.... by cloudance · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a few other people pointed out, a boosted immune system isn't a good thing. A Healthy immune system is. No, I'm not a bioligist, Doctor, Immunologist, Rheumatologist, or Endocrinologist... but I have one of each in my contact list (Ok... so the Biologist is a friend who gave it up for Software engineering.... but I do have the others).

    A heightened immune system causes Psoriasis, Psoriatic Arthritis, Osteo Arthritis, Rheumatoid arthritis, Allergies, Graves Syndrome, Crohn's Disease, and a whole host of things that range from unpleasant (allergies and Osteo Arthritis) to seriously painful (Psoriatic Arthritis) to life threatening (Crohn's and very severe psoriasis). I live it every day. It's ranging from my major discomfort with the current 5000+ pollen count on my business trip to Atlanta (where I'm sitting now) where Zyrtec is barely effective, to my Psoriasis (which gets worse when my immune system gets excitied like it is with my allergies pumped up) that leaves me with large raw bloody areas that pass for skin. Yeah... I know... you really wanted to read that while you ate dinner... welcome to my life.

    Trust me... DON'T overactivate your immune system.... live well, take antibiotics only when you HAVE to and for as long as you have to, and enjoy a normal and healthy immune system.

  22. Re:Headline missing a keyword by Em+Ellel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...a massive super bug some day that will kill you ...

    That's sounds a bit emotional. If it has any basis in scientific fact you haven't established it.
    I believe you're espousing the age old theory that we'll eventually destroy ourselves by playing with nature.
    That mad scientists with blow us all up. Actually the "massive superbug" theory , regardless of if you believe it will kill you, is rooted in scientific FACT, not emotion. The theory is basically same as evolution, overuse of antibiotics and anti-bacterial stuff will kill all but the most resistant, hard to kill, strains. Shifting the survival rate of the bacteria to the most resistant strains will make antibiotics ineffective. Furthermore, because rate of exposure of humans to bacteria is significantly lower, our ability to produce antibodies will be significantly reduced and will make us much more susceptible to bacteria(this is evident in Americans drinking water in foreign countries and getting sick, where locals are just fine because they've been exposed to this all their life). Now, since this is the same bacteria that has been "bred" to be resistant to antibiotics, we are really fucked once we catch it, since we have no way of killing it with drugs and our immune system can't handle it. So goes the theory.

    -Em
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  23. um by heyyou_overhere · · Score: 2, Informative

    Researchers Find New Superbug Weapon for Failing Antibiotics Arsenal (3/27/2007),

    The discovery, in animal models, will be published March 25 in the journal Nature Biotechnology.

    ...

  24. Smart People Missing The Point..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anybody ever understood that germs are a good thing? Ok, I know some people might think that I am being gross, but germs are why we are here today.

    People don't understand that by having EVERYTHING, EVERY surface, EVERY food, and drink super-duper sanitized, we are doing more harm to ourselves than if we were not. Germs are what gives our immune system its effectiveness, and by reducing things it has to fight against, it loses the opportinities to recognize, learn about, and fight off foreign invaders.

    People NEED to get sick. Period. There is no logical argument against that. The more sanitary we get, the sicker we become. Humans evolved through experiences with germs. If germs were as evil as a thing as we are being led to believe, then the human race, and just about all life, would not exist today. Immunity from diseases cannot be taught. Human beings can only learn how to fight off an illness by experiencing it.

    Unfortunately, being anti-germ is a socially and politically correct thing to do, because your average idiot doesn't understand that you can beat your enemy be using it.

    People NEED to get sick. People NEED to die. It's how he human race got to where it is, and now we are destroying the very germs we need to maintain effective immune systems. No drug can replace an immune system.

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  25. Re:Headline missing a keyword by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Funny

    since everyone is a big baby and rushes out to get antibiotics at the first sniffle

    Not me. I'm tempered in raw sewage!

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  26. Re:Headline missing a keyword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, this is wrong. Production of beta-lactamases (i.e., penicillinase) is just one means of antibiotic resistance. There are lots of strategies that bacteria use to evade antibiotics without expending energy. One example is gram positive bacteria that use modified peptidoglycan.

    Also, methicillin-resistant staph aureus doesn't infect only immunocompromised hosts. Neither do vancomycin-resistant enterobacteria. Pseudomonas aeruginosa is a major, major pathogen that affects immunocompetent people and still manages to be resistant to a lot of antibiotics.

    Pathogenic bacteria are bad. Pathogenic bacteria that are antibiotic resistant are worse.

  27. A common misconception by zedpol · · Score: 2, Informative

    [from above]Except that antibiotic-resistant strains are generally less virulent than the old-fashioned kind

    The view that antibiotic-resistant strains are less virulent is rapidly falling out of favor with bugs such as community acquired MRSA, XDR-TB and VRE. We are seeing bugs that are as virulent if not more in the case of CA-MRSA that are wrecking havoc on human hosts as they not only are antibiotic resistant but have specific virulence factors to work in human hosts. Panton-. Valentin leukocidin (i may have spelled that incorrectly) allows CA-MRSA to hang on to human skin very nicely, and the bug is an absolute terror if it gets into the blood stream. Anyways, My point isn't to go into the nitty gritty of virulence of emerging pathogens but rather to say that we aren't seeing less virulent new bugs but rather very deadly new bugs.

    Z

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  28. The real solution would be clean hospitals... by PermanentMarker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe the real solution would be clean hospitals.
    Hospitals are the places where these bugs are
    A hospital where a superbug cannot survive

    + Will not infect people
    + Will not become a feeding ground for such bacteria's to multiply
    + Worse will not become a evolutionairy playground of these kind of bacteria.

    If this problem isn't tackled first then in then end bacteria's win.
    As Bacteria can possibly evolve quicker then our knowledge of them.

    I think also there is a very simple method that might help in this battle.
    And is not used as of today, as i'm aware of.
    So here I go under Free GNU opensource license:

    Take TL light bulbs remove the special powders inside.
    It will become a harmfull UV light source.
    Ofcourse you cannt use this light always.
    However when no one is in a room or corridor.
    Such a light source could realy clean desinfect a lot of bacteria.
    Think of it as a night light cleaning system, or just before operations start.

    Altough this will cleans a lot
    Still surface cleaning would be required, but i'm sure this method would clean a lot.
    It's also verry easy just flip a light switch. Basicly this is a verry simple low tech idea, even poor hospitals could buy some TL's based on this idea.

    A side effect is that some materials also brake down under UV light, but there also lot of materials who dont do that, so thats no idea killer.

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  29. Re:Headline missing a keyword by misleb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You need to keep in mind just how dangerous and deadly infections can be. I mean, people used to die from a relatively minor puncture wound or similar back before antibiotics.

    If there is abuse of antibiotics, it is with livestock and perhaps the elderly. Average people are not getting antibiotics for the "sniffles."

    -matthew

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