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Gene Research Gives Hope of Reversing Baldness

Hair loss in humans might not be irreversible, suggest scientists who have helped create new hair cells on the skin of mice. It was thought hair follicles, once damaged, could never be replaced. A University of Pennsylvania team, writing in the journal Nature, say hair growth can actually be encouraged using a single gene.

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  1. heh by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Funny

    i'm not nearly as distressed by the hair i'm losing as much as by the hair that seems to grow more and more rapidly where i don't want it.

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    1. Re:heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, is it worth it to get rid of toupe in exchange of having to shave the forehead daily?

    2. Re:heh by AdmiralWeirdbeard · · Score: 1

      Great, I can get my hair back, and all i need to do is get scalped first?
      SWEET!
      where do i sign up?

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    3. Re:heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, I've got massive hair growth on the top of my head, but nearly zero growth in (most) other places. My dad was never able to grow a beard, and I guess that it'll be the same for me. I really would like to grow some facial hair, though, so maybe this discovery means they're also closer to finding something for that.

    4. Re:heh by ez76 · · Score: 1

      For millions of balding men, there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

      Or in the case of Patrick Stewart, four lights!

    5. Re:heh by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's no light, baldy, that's a reflection from your forehead.

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    6. Re:heh by symes · · Score: 1

      Here you go - all your facial hair needs addressed, and no need for expensive gene therapy!

    7. Re:heh by Z00L00K · · Score: 1
      I can't help to agree. Too much hair is an inconvenience and may be the cause of sanitary problems.

      Too little hair may look funny on some people, but today people doesn't really react much if you show up completely bald (but with clothes on :-) ) at work one day. Some may be surprised if your have had a hair at shoulder length or more before, or if you go from bald to shoulder-length in a day. I think that we have seen about all possible hairstyles during the years since the 70's so there is nothing new to do anymore... Punkrockers, Skinheads, Hardrockers, Monks, Synthpoppers, reggae-style a.k.a. dreadlocks, Goth and so on...

      I'm still waiting for the miracle cure that can allow me to remove annoying hairs permanently. Especially irritating are the tickling nosehairs... Current cure is a tweezer...

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    8. Re:heh by Frogbert · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're telling me. I found my first grey pube today!

      It was in a Kebab but it was still a bit of a shock.

    9. Re:heh by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 1

      No wonder you're posting as AC, girly man!

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    10. Re:heh by rts008 · · Score: 1

      No kidding!!

      As the only male in my family in 3 generatins that has hair past 30, I'm just waiting for the TurtleWax Buff-it Years!

      Early 20's get a vasectomy...grow Jack Elam Eyebrows (they need trimmed more than any other hair)
      Early 30's start braiding my nose hairs.
      Early 40's start trimming the hairs sprouting out of my ear canals! WTF? What did you say?
      Early 50's....Damn, I'm only 49...I'm afraid of my 50's!!!!Shit!..Nevermind, it got caught in my asshairs-guess I'll have to braid them too. Where's that mirror?

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    11. Re:heh by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      "Monks"? I missed that one. You mean they actually had the tonsure thing with the shaved crown of the head? That's a great look.

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    12. Re:heh by grolschie · · Score: 1

      THIS is freakin' awesome! Needs some aviator glasses though really.

    13. Re:heh by Himring · · Score: 1

      You don't think of it as losing hair. You think of it as gaining face.

      How did Moby break his neck? King Kong mistook him for ban roll-on.

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    14. Re:heh by JerkBoB · · Score: 1

      Especially irritating are the tickling nosehairs... Current cure is a tweezer...

      Dude... OW!

      Not to mention the infection possibilities. An infected nosehair follicle is misery.

      Try this:
      Nose/Ear Hair Trimmer

      I guess $25 may seem steep to some (I got mine via an Amazon reseller), but it works, and it will last a lifetime.
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    15. Re:heh by Starayo · · Score: 1

      Or in the case of Patrick Stewart, four lights!
      And you people call yourself slashdotters. How can this not be modded funny?

      I like this news, because every time I tease my dad about going bald and looking like his brother, and he comes back with baldness being hereditary, and myself saying that by the time I start to bald hair regrowth will be a technology long developed.... I may be right!
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    16. Re:heh by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Trust me, you only want to grow facial hair because you can't. It's itchy and women hate it because it is rough on their sensitive skin. And if you don't want the beard you have to scrape it off your face everyday. It actually hurts and is a major pain the rear. Adds at least 5 minutes to your routine before you can get out the door too.

    17. Re: heh by gidds · · Score: 1
      I think you'll find it's five.

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  2. Those damn hippy mice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a hair cut you cheese eating freeloaders!

    1. Re:Those damn hippy mice by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Since I joined Hair Club for Mice, I'm not worried about my looks and females rush to my side. And our IT guy with the mullet is jealous, too.

    2. Re:Those damn hippy mice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm not only the Hair Club president... I'm also a rodent!"

  3. electrolosis is a wonderful thing by DreadSpoon · · Score: 1

    Getting rid of excess hair is easy and relatively cheap. A girlfriend and I had planned on getting it done - her for her legs and me for my back. Adding hair back to the crown of my head (getting close to the point I'm going to have the chop off the several feet of hair I have to avoid having the "loser living in his mom's basement" skull-crown look) is significantly more painful and costly. The only real treatments long-term now involve grafts or artificial implants.

    1. Re:electrolosis is a wonderful thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Warning, Slashdotter with girlfriend. Please move to quarantine...

    2. Re:electrolosis is a wonderful thing by pnutjam · · Score: 1
    3. Re:electrolosis is a wonderful thing by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "The only real treatments long-term now involve grafts or artificial implants."

      Any idea how much this costs? I can't find reliable info on pricing....I'm needing this too, just back from vacation, and saw the back of my head for the first time in awhile...YIKES....didn't know I was balding that badly!!

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    4. Re:electrolosis is a wonderful thing by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I think the Slashdotter was referring to a girl who is a friend, not a girlfriend. Anyone who is getting their back waxed can't be straight.

    5. Re:electrolosis is a wonderful thing by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Any idea how much this costs?

      It's several multiples of a thousand dollars. The exact price depends on where you go. The average when I researched it seemed to be about US$4000. However, IMO the results are pretty poor - most of the "after" pictures I saw looked like the guy still had noticeably thinning hair instead of a completely bald spot. For an actor or model, I guess it would make sense to get something like that done that can be fudged by the makeup department to look passable on film, but it didn't seem worth it for regular people.

      (Again IMO) there is currently no truly worthwhile way to get around baldness, so I started shaving my head a little over a year ago. If one of the various sci-fi treatments ends up working better I would consider having it done, but in the meantime it's no big deal. Having no hair is a lot easier to take care of.

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    6. Re:electrolosis is a wonderful thing by zentinal · · Score: 1

      Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! My Eyes! MY EYES!!!!!

  4. Only the beginning.... by IncandescentFlame · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Advanced hair ... yeah, yeah. Exciting for some.... However, the next generation of this process could feasibly be new limbs or new organs ... sign me up.

    1. Re:Only the beginning.... by macraig · · Score: 1

      Can I get a bigger third leg instead of a fourth one?

    2. Re:Only the beginning.... by JonathanR · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sure. Only problem is that the hairy palms upgrade is also part of that service pack.

    3. Re:Only the beginning.... by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      Yeah yeah. At least I know that scientists will cure the baldness so that I'll look awesome when I doe of cancer!

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    4. Re:Only the beginning.... by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      Yeah yeah. At least I know that scientists will cure the baldness so that I'll look awesome when I doe of cancer! It won't be cancer, you'll "d'oh!" of spelling.
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    5. Re:Only the beginning.... by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      d'oh, my bad. *note to self* don't post in a hurry with the boss looking over the shoulder... proof read!

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    6. Re:Only the beginning.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never gonna happen. Growing hair on bald guys is profitable for pharmaceutical corporations. The knowledge to grow new limbs would be considered an essential public resource and taken away from the companies. Better for them to stick with \/1@gr@ and Botox.

      Peace

  5. Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Erectile dysfunction? Check!
    Baldness? Check!
    Cancer? Whassat?

    1. Re:Medical research checklist by Chrisje · · Score: 0, Troll

      If you hadn't posted as AC, I would have modded you up insightful all I could.

      Silly ass research into minor cosmetic details while the bigger questions (Cancer, AIDS, Multiple Sclerosis and an End to War) seemingly aren't heading anywhere anytime soon just pisses me off and saddens me at the same time.

    2. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well stem cell research IS headed places - and faster than we realize.
      Chances are fairly good that within 10 years teeth will be able to be regrown(already done in mice)
      using stem cells - and from there regenerating other ograns like the heart will be routine in maybe 50
      years or so

    3. Re:Medical research checklist by poor_boi · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Don't mice's teeth already regrow... uh, like, naturally and constantly?

      "Soon humans will be re-growing amputated limbs. It's already been done with lizard's tails!"

    4. Re:Medical research checklist by ookabooka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Clearly medical research as a whole is irrelevant until we solve world hunger; spaceships, cars, and the internet are even more irrelevant. Progress is progress, how do you know that their research into this gene won't help cancer down the road?

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    5. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      right but why stop there? what about spinal injury and dementure? you asshole now i'm going to preach to you about how your neglecting people with those illnesses and how them being higher on my priority list makes me better then you.

    6. Re:Medical research checklist by titusjan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Insightful? My hiney!

      Aren't scientists allowed to work on projects of lesser importance until all important problems are solved? If not, the ultimate consequence would be that we compile a list of all problems, sort them and don't start working on number 2 until we've solved number 1.

      Secondly it is not as if nothing has been accomplished in cancer research. In the begining of the 20th century having cancer meant a certain death, these days you have a chance depending on the kind of cancer and how far it has progessed. Let's face it, cancer is hard to cure.

      An finally you (and others in this thread) seem to think that baldness and erectily dysfunctions are minor problems. Having a problem like that can have a severe inpact on your chances of reproducing so I'd say they're no minor issues.

    7. Re:Medical research checklist by mikkelm · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right. No one is doing anything to research cancer. If only we had some sort of global awareness day, and some kind of research movement dedicated to it.. Hmm..

      Seriously, crawl back into your hole. Cancer is one of, if not the most funded research topic in any field. It's serious, but that doesn't mean that all other research should be dropped in favour of it. It takes a serious idiot to believe that, and an even bigger one to attempt to justify it.

    8. Re:Medical research checklist by jamshid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30517
      Potential Baldness Cure Leads Man To Reverse Position On Stem-Cell Research
      March 31, 2004 | Issue 4013

    9. Re:Medical research checklist by rucs_hack · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I'm more for the idea of growing limbs on genetically altered pigs and grafting them, seems a lot more convenient.

    10. Re:Medical research checklist by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Cool, you could make a self-assembling bacon sandwich!

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    11. Re:Medical research checklist by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      Having a problem like that can have a severe inpact on your chances of reproducing so I'd say they're no minor issues.
      Titusjan, this is Mr Darwin...
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    12. Re:Medical research checklist by hachete · · Score: 1

      These "cures" are all driven by the desires of wealthy westerners. Cure for malaria? AIDs? Flu? finding a way of pushing Big Pharma into researching a quicker method of producing flu vaccine would be a start. Big Pharma has made huge profits. It's time they put a little back.

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    13. Re:Medical research checklist by hraefn · · Score: 1

      Feeding everyone in the world is probably a bad idea. We would first need to control population growth. The internet and robotic space exploration are nice consolation prizes.

    14. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on, who modded this off topic?? This is hilarious. People have no sense of humor.

    15. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what are you researching yourself?

    16. Re:Medical research checklist by mjm1231 · · Score: 1

      Right, because only wealthy westerners have ever put any effort into a cure for baldness or "male enhancement" products.

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    17. Re:Medical research checklist by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Unless you are currently involved in such research, you are just a hypocritical fuck.

    18. Re:Medical research checklist by AiToyonsNostril · · Score: 1

      Seen Mike Judge's "Idiocracy"? "Some had high hopes that genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution. But sadly, the greatest minds and resources were focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections." Cue in a picture of an orangutan with generous hair and a visible bulge in his pants...

      For all the crap women get for our cosmetics and stuff, Y-chromies seem to be just as vain.

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    19. Re:Medical research checklist by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

      In the case of the latter group, it makes better business sense not to eliminate them. With cancer, AIDS, MS, et. al., it is more profitable to treat the symptoms.

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    20. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > An finally you (and others in this thread) seem to think that baldness and erectily dysfunctions are minor problems. Having a problem like that can have a severe inpact on your chances of reproducing so I'd say they're no minor issues.

      Some sort of natural selection to the gene pool is a good thing isn't it?

      Society places such a large value on appearance that people are willing to pay thousands of dollars for nip/tuck operations. Let's say you find and marry someone who you are very attracted to (personally and physically). Eventually you decide to have kids and to your surprise the kids pop out with honk'n huge beaks. Not a detriment to their personality by any means (Cyrano can attest), but they too would fall under the same social pressures for a nose job.

      At this point in time in the western world, we've created a sustained market for beautification... fixing things which are apparently 'wrong' or unbecoming. At the same time this is self-perpetuation of a market, unless you consider fixing the genes passed down to your kids.

      Is fixing genes the right thing to do? Do you run the risk of narrowing your social preferences so much that everyone becomes the same? Genetic molding for those can afford it could possibly lead to such a wide stratification that you could inspire another arian race.

      I think more research should go into culture and meaning instead of appearances.

    21. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was the AC above. Well, I had intended it to be +N, Funny, but instead I was modded just about everything *except* Funny. I guess people on slashdot have no sense of humor.

      I will say, however, that baldness *is* a minor problem. Nobody cares! OK, maybe all else being equal, a guy with hair might look a tiny bit better than one without, but all else is not equal. On the list of "attributes that contribute to appearance", baldness is number 692. Some of our most revered sex symbols have male-pattern baldness, like Michael Jordan and Andre Agassi; Patrick Stewart was voted "Sexiest Man on Television" (the same poll had Cindy Crawford as sexiest woman). If you're ugly and you're blaming your hair genes, it's just because you're a fat lazy slob in the first place. And I don't have to remind you that you can be a fat lazy slob with lots of hair, too -- I'm sure we all know geeks who fit that description.

      And why are we trying to solve LRPB (lab rat pattern baldness)? I didn't think that was a big concern of most people...

    22. Re:Medical research checklist by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Silly ass research into minor cosmetic details while the bigger questions (Cancer, AIDS, Multiple Sclerosis and an End to War) seemingly aren't heading anywhere anytime soon just pisses me off and saddens me at the same time."

      Well, with proper lifestyle and diet, you can pretty much avoid most cancers, but, there's nothing you can do naturally to prevent hair loss.

      With more hair, you look younger, and makes it easier to 'bag' younger chicks...they DO respond differently to men with vs without hair.

      No one lives forever, but, I'd rather have hair for the life I do have...it makes me feel better, and helps you to get laid more (when other things are considered like money, physical fitness).

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    23. Re:Medical research checklist by JumperCable · · Score: 1

      We could cut cancer rates dramatically if we just cut off life span to what it was in the 1500's.

    24. Re:Medical research checklist by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      Chances are your job isn't remotely related to medical research. Maybe you should actually go out and research anything before you attack people who are actually researching something.

    25. Re:Medical research checklist by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      The commonest form of cancer is skin cancer, generally caused by excessive exposure to the sun. Guess what hair blocks? This is cancer prevention.

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    26. Re:Medical research checklist by kelnos · · Score: 1

      Having a problem like that can have a severe inpact on your chances of reproducing so I'd say they're no minor issues.
      Titusjan, this is Mr Darwin... Darwinian concepts like natural selection don't completely apply to humans. We artificially circumvent natural selection via things like laws against murder, and modern medicine.
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    27. Re:Medical research checklist by juhaz · · Score: 1

      Don't mice's teeth already regrow... uh, like, naturally and constantly? No. Rodent incisors grow length constantly as long as they're there, but their molars are perfectly normal, and even the incisors don't grow back once they're completely lost, just like the rest of us.
    28. Re:Medical research checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jews control slashdot moderation.

  6. Hope by ig37055 · · Score: 1

    There's still hope for me! \o/

    1. Re:Hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes! I am cured! \õ/

  7. You mean I might not have to... by macraig · · Score: 1

    ... keep shaving my head to finish what I thought Nature started? You mean I might have the full head of hair I never had? Huzzah! I eagerly look forward to squandering money on hair tonic and barbers!

    1. Re:You mean I might not have to... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      I eagerly look forward to squandering money on hair tonic and barbers!

      Hair tonic? What is this, a Bugs Bunny cartoon?

    2. Re:You mean I might not have to... by macraig · · Score: 1

      Nope, it's the treatment some pharmaceutical company is gonna sell me so that my GF has something to run her fingers through instead of giving me a scalp massage.

    3. Re:You mean I might not have to... by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Heh!Heh!Heh!...Those wascally wabbits!
      Shhhh!...We got to be vewwy, vewwy careful...Heh!Heh!Heh!

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    4. Re:You mean I might not have to... by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

      No, he uses Hare Tonic.

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  8. As a baldee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want wnt!

    (Sorry, you'll have to RTFA to get that joke...)

  9. At least this research has other applications by Somnus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The researchers said that their findings "opened a window" for new treatments not only for baldness, but for other aspects of wound healing and regeneration.


    The self-indulgent preoccupation with male pattern baldness couldn't be more banal.
    1. Re:At least this research has other applications by LionKimbro · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The self-indulgent preoccupation with male pattern baldness couldn't be more banal.


      If people were just as kind and fair to the beautiful as to the ugly, then I might agree with you.

      But they are not.
    2. Re:At least this research has other applications by Somnus · · Score: 1

      For guys, having money makes up for everything else :)

      And, anecdotally, having money doesn't seem well-correlated with handsomeness.

    3. Re:At least this research has other applications by timmarhy · · Score: 1

      right, because women's preoccupation with their appearence is less so?

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    4. Re:At least this research has other applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exhibit 1: Danny De Vito. Short, bald, ugly (sorry, Danny...) and still a Hollywood 'name'.

      http://imdb.com/name/nm0000362/ if you don't believe me!

    5. Re:At least this research has other applications by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      It's more women's preoccupation with each other's appearance that is the problem.

      In fact, it's women's preoccupation with male appearance that makes men worry about baldness.

      It's not like men give a shit what other men look like.

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    6. Re:At least this research has other applications by Novotny · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh I'm dreadfully sorry your mighty intellect is bored by the trivial concerns of millions. Fact is, many men are enormously bothered by going bald. It's something that affects their job prospects, their sex lives and much more. There are many, many more important things in the world of course, but then we have people like you to wrestle with infinitely more worthy thoughts.

      In fact, next time you need to point out to us just how trivial our concerns are, do me a favour. Don't indulge us.

    7. Re:At least this research has other applications by Fortissimo · · Score: 1

      To paraphrase Winston Churchill: I may be bald, but you're an idiot, and now I can regrow my hair.....

    8. Re:At least this research has other applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are obviously an idiot.

      For one thing, it is something that leads to anxiety and depression for many people.

      For another, there are just as many women who suffer from hair loss with age as men - they would benefit as well. It is just that women don't tend to have the same patterns of baldness. They tend to have erratic thinning, or patches of hair loss, and they go to much more effort to hide it (it is even more stigmatising for women who suffer).

      To not know this, and yet still give us your oh so high-and-mighty opinion speaks to your arrogance and ignorance. Perhaps you should read a little more, and speak a little less? It might do you the world of good.

    9. Re:At least this research has other applications by timeOday · · Score: 1

      And, anecdotally, having money doesn't seem well-correlated with handsomeness.
      Actually it is:

      To test this prediction, a sample of 737 male and female MBA graduates from the years between 1973 and 1982 was used to explore how facial attractiveness relates to starting and later salaries. Results indicated that more attractive men had higher starting salaries and they continued to earn more over time. For women, there was no effect of attractiveness for starting salaries, but more attractive women earned more later on in their jobs. By 1983, men were found to earn $2600 more on the average for each unit of attractiveness (on a 5-point scale) and women earned $2150 more.
      $2600 for each point adds up to $13K per year in 1983 dollars. That's $26000 per year in 2006 dollars!

      As always there's the issue of correlation vs causality. But note that "more attractive women earned more later on in their jobs." In other words, their beauty predicted their later raises! But even if wealthier people simply find it worthwhile to spend money making themselves look good, don't you think there's probably a reason?

    10. Re:At least this research has other applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The self-indulgent preoccupation with male pattern baldness couldn't be more banal

      As a 55 year old man with a full head of hair, I couldn't agree more - until I saw a woman with a comb-over.

      I've been passed over for bald men by women; many women think a bald head is sexy. My nephew is only bald because he shaves his head. But I hope the poor balding woman I saw in the store is already married. I felt sorry for her (but not sorry enough to ask her out).

      This is a godsend for balding women, not balding men.

      And like another poster mentioned above, growing hair on your ears (among other places) is far worse than a bald head. I mean, Patrick Stewart gets laid, but I don't.

      -mcgrew

    11. Re:At least this research has other applications by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Instead of focusing so much on baldness and erectile dysfunction, shouldn't we have our scientists dealing with the decreasing IQ problem? Just think of where we could end up 500 years!

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    12. Re:At least this research has other applications by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      This should be the only +6 post here, seriously.

      I recall seeing a similar post on /. over a year ago and it hadn't even occured to me till then.

      It's amazing when you actually think about it and realise it really is quite true, the ugly are very frequently discriminated against and as a bonus zing, there's no 'anti-ugly' discrimination because it's normally more subtle things, like quality of service from people, respect in the workplace, that kind of thing

    13. Re:At least this research has other applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those who are unaware, the parent is a reference to Mike Judge's "Idiocracy".

      (Posting AC to avoid Karma Whoring)

    14. Re:At least this research has other applications by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      Fortunately, as Mitch Fatel observed, "... most of us are pleasant-looking. There aren't really very many ugly people. You know a person is ugly when you see them, and you want to hit them. 'Why did you come out?!'".

      Also, that's the first time I've ever ended a sentence with five punctuation marks. And my placement of the period is the only really questionable one.

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    15. Re:At least this research has other applications by Somnus · · Score: 1

      Well, MBAs may not be representative of the whole population of well-to-do people. Beauty may be causative for them, but not others.

      I imagine it's a matter of degree, depending on how rationalistic the culture is in a given field. I prefer rationalism.

    16. Re:At least this research has other applications by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Hair protects your skin from the sun and helps keep you warm. A bald person, to stay warm, must either raise the thermostat or wear a hat indoors. If you believe the claptrap that humans are causing global warming by burning fuel, then curing baldness fights global warming.

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    17. Re:At least this research has other applications by Somnus · · Score: 1

      a) I was specifically referring to male pattern baldness. Read more carefully.

      b) If a person has low self-esteem because of a natural process, the self-esteem is the problem, not the hair.

  10. Rogaine by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    reverses baldness, so what is the big deal?

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    1. Re:Rogaine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, it doesn't.

      If you're lucky, Rogaine (minoxidil) will help you keep the hair you have, and maybe grow a little hair back (not to mention, grow hair -on- your back, because the drug is absorbed systemically).

      It also tends to work only on your bald spot. Receding hairlines do not suddenly un-recede (proceed?).

      Also, what grows back tends to be a thin and sickly kind of hair. That is because, at the cellular level, baldness is actually an inflammatory condition, and while Rogaine addresses the symptoms of arrested hair growth, it does nothing to cure the underlying disease process, for which no effective treatment exists currently.

      In a nutshell, Rogaine tricks dying hair follicles into sputtering out a little more mane, but they're still dying at the root.

      And (the best part), if it works at all, it's good only as long as you use it religiously. Lapse, and what hair you were maintaining with the drug, promptly falls out within a few months.

      The follicle inflammatory response in baldness seems to be triggered by genetic sensitivity to a metabolite of male hormones (androgens). The other drug you've probably heard about, Propecia, attempts to block these sensitive androgen receptors, whose activation by the metabolite precipitates the inflammation. But it too is imperfect and rife with the potential for sexual side effects, no matter what the literature says.

      Rogaine, like so many other medicines, is a crude, high-cost, brute-force fix to a complex, genetically predisposed condition, so perhaps a genetic fix is the best hope.

    2. Re:Rogaine by LandruBek · · Score: 1

      As AC said, not if you have a receding hairline like me. It only works if you've got a bald patch in back -- something Russians jokingly refer to as a your "ice rink." (Try making an object-verbs-you joke out of that one.)

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    3. Re:Rogaine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      something Russians jokingly refer to as a your "ice rink." (Try making an object-verbs-you joke out of that one.)

      In Soviet Russia, rinks ice you!

    4. Re:Rogaine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And (the best part), if it works at all, it's good only as long as you use it religiously. Lapse, and what hair you were maintaining with the drug, promptly falls out within a few months. Which is why you should (or shouldn't, depending on your worldview) buy stock in Pfizer.
    5. Re:Rogaine by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Generic 5% minoxidil is $8 a month at WalMart.

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  11. Damn there goes my superiority by hoojus · · Score: 1

    Damn there goes the one good reason for not having the baldness gene. I won't be able to spin around the nursing home in my supped up wheelchair laughing and pointing and those inferior baldies! "Ha Ha" - Nelson

    That means I will also be on equal footing when it comes to attract those cute blue rinses.
    Stupid research give me back my advantages!!

  12. Better focus by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Genetic research should focus on topics with higher priority for the mankind.
    This very one seems triggered by some company that has sold the snake oil for the hair regrowth!

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    1. Re:Better focus by dvice_null · · Score: 1

      > Genetic research should focus on topics with higher priority for the mankind.

      Are you sure this doesn't help? Let's have an example. If we have unkown variables x,y and z and we know that their values are 3,5 and 7, but we don't know which variable has which value. Now, let's assume that we are interesting finding out what is the value for x.

      Now, during some unrelated reseach we find out that z = 5. So because of this, we now have less options for the x, which just increased out changes finding out what the x is.

      It is the same for the genes, every little peace of information we can gather, will help solving the rest of the remaining mysteries.

    2. Re:Better focus by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 1

      What exactly is supposed to be "higher priority for the mankind?" Perhaps something that oh say...mankind desires?

      How about this: If somebody spends years learning how to manipulate genetic material, and spends all of that money and time to obtain the lab equipment for doing so, shouldn't they be allowed to research whatever the hell they want to research?

      That is like saying that no programmer should ever write any games, they should only write software like folding at home. We aren't communists here, we do whatever we want to do and not what somebody else thinks we should do. If nobody is allowed to pursue their true interests, then they'll eventually lose interest completely, which is where communism ultimately fails.

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    3. Re:Better focus by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

      This is a clear path to make a lot of money to fund other research. And possibly the easiest path to pursue in this line, as far as safety and testing go. It's a stepping stone.

    4. Re:Better focus by Kasis · · Score: 1

      I just heard one of the researchers being interviewed on BBC Radio 2. He said they weren't looking for this, it's a side-effect dicovered during their research into the way skin heals. I think healing lacerations is a fairly worthy goal.

  13. Covering my solar panel? by Centurix · · Score: 3, Funny

    No thanks, that's what makes me a sex machine!

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    1. Re:Covering my solar panel? by TheCybernator · · Score: 1

      no doubt you are so......Bald and B E A Utiful

  14. Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by N3wsByt3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    to baldly go where no man has gone before!

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    1. Re:Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's something that's always bothered me. They have the technology to fly around at multiples of C and weasley can make nanobots as a school project, but they haven't cured baldness?

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    2. Re:Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by N3wsByt3 · · Score: 1

      "That's something that's always bothered me. They have the technology to fly around at multiples of C and weasley can make nanobots as a school project, but they haven't cured baldness?"

      In a technological sense... this makes *no* sense, of course.

      One could, however, always speculate that in that era, bald is considered 'sexy' or 'cool', or something. ;-)

      While we're at it: I think there are inconsistencies that are far worse and not easily explained. It is difficult to imagine, for instance, that death is sexy: I think it's in human nature to want to live as long as possible, and in good health. Now, in one episode, Picard is beamed back into a younger form of himself; as a teenager/kid. It is rather difficult to imagine if this would be indeed possible, that the technology wouldn't be immediately adapted to turn oneself younger, at least to a 20-year old person.

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    3. Re:Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by Kandenshi · · Score: 1
      From Patrick Stewart's wikipedia entry:

      In an interview with Michael Parkinson, he expressed gratitude for Gene Roddenberry's riposte to a reporter who said, "Surely they would have cured baldness by the 24th century," to which Roddenberry replied, "In the 24th Century, they wouldn't care."
    4. Re:Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      In an interview with Michael Parkinson, he expressed gratitude for Gene Roddenberry's riposte to a reporter who said, "Surely they would have cured baldness by the 24th century," to which Roddenberry replied, "In the 24th Century, they wouldn't care."

      I'm sorry, but that's a stupid argument. Hair protects your head. That's what it's for. Having it stay around to continue protecting your head is a benefit, even if you've cured cancer and don't have to worry about a melanoma on your dome.

      Besides, there is ample evidence on the various Trek shows (TOS least of all, I will grant you) that people are still plenty superficial in the 24th century.

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    5. Re:Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by Kandenshi · · Score: 1

      There are only a few people more qualified to talk about Trek than Roddenberry... I suppose if you believe in God He might be.

      As for protection, he live in a starship, not the jungle primeval. I think the durasteel and forcefields around him grant sufficient protection.

      As for fashion reasons, I really don't see why the fashion of the 24th century needs to be equivalent to our own. Baldness could be acceptable for fashion reasons. Not encouraged such that everyone gets their hair zapped, but an accepted way of presenting yourself. Short cropped hair on women(ear length) isn't ubiquitous, but it's accepted(at least up here). Women with hair down to their butt isn't common either, but I know a couple women with hair like that and noone points and makes comments about how they should *really* trim a bit off. Why should Picard's choice to be bald be totally out of the question in the 24th century's views of fashion?

      How many people do you see nowadays wearing those powdered wigs? They were very fashionable in the 18th century. That's about the same length of time as Trek is from now right?

    6. Re:Jean-Luc Picard will be happy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      There are only a few people more qualified to talk about Trek than Roddenberry... I suppose if you believe in God He might be.

      With all due respect to Roddenberry's vision, he was a starry-eyed idealist who was many steps away from reality. He also died before they stopped making Trek shows, so not only can you not consult him, but if you did, he wouldn't know what was up past that point. Not that this is a useful conversation.

      As for protection, he live in a starship, not the jungle primeval. I think the durasteel and forcefields around him grant sufficient protection.

      They leave the starship plenty.

      Also, it helps protect you when you hit your head on things. My hairline is receding (actually it seems to have paused since I was about 24, it retreated towards the hills early in my life) and when I bash the hairless part it hurts a hell of a lot more than the part covered in hair. Granted, Picard isn't an engineering tech...

      As for fashion reasons, I really don't see why the fashion of the 24th century needs to be equivalent to our own. Baldness could be acceptable for fashion reasons.

      It's not entirely unacceptable now, although it does depend on how you wear it (and how otherwise attractive you are[n't].

      But my point is that it is seen as undesirable, and as a sign of aging that is likely to always be so. People in the Trek universe give every sign of being just as shallow as they are here - you don't see someone generating innuendo unless it's in regards to someone young and sexy-as-per-cosmopolitan-magazine. If you do, they're older too, and it's clearly portrayed as a whole different kind of relationship. Trek (all the shows, really) is just as sexist as anything else, it's just not emphasized as much, likely because Roddenberry believed himself above it and set the theme for later shows as well. Too bad he was wrong.

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  15. Accutane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could be great news for those of us who took accutane and now have thinning hair. Being in your 20s and having thinning hair is a pain in the ass.

  16. Re:Hm by Chrisje · · Score: 2, Funny

    Eastern European Women never lose hair anywhere, you insensitive clod!

  17. Good thing too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The clock sure was ticking on the impending baldness epidemic...

    Thank god for modern medicine. Quick, to marketing!

    Someone wake me when they run out of money for AIDS/cancer/superbugs.

    I'll be the guy with the nice head of hair who's dying of AIDS/cancer/superbugs.

    1. Re:Good thing too. by mikkelm · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because the world would be a better place if all resources were used for one single research topic. Diversity never did humanity any good.

  18. Reversing baldness? by suv4x4 · · Score: 0

    Ok, I'm not a scientist. How exactly we *reverse* baldness (notice the term) in grown people, by finding the *gene* responsible.

    Do we take a magical serum that alters our DNA or something? You know, like in movies, where if an alien bites you, you don't just die from a bad infection or anything, oh no. You instead turn into a hybrid, 'cause, you see, the alien DNA infected you.

    1. Re:Reversing baldness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      at least scanning the article is probably a good idea before getting snippy

    2. Re:Reversing baldness? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

      How does other gene therapy work? Visuses. They add stuff to our genetic code and kill off a few cells to spread themselves around.

      It'd be the same here.

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    3. Re:Reversing baldness? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      You apply a substance that increases expression of the repair gene, and do something to make your cells think they need to do repair work. The latter might be something as simple as a chemical irritant like pepper extract.

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  19. Wikipedia by zymano · · Score: 4, Informative

    Has some latest research links.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldness#Latest_resea rch

    They found some genes from Russians. Now they need to work on the drugs. Said something about enzymes being key.

    1. Re:Wikipedia by Kozz · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, hair grows you!

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  20. Baldness by JanneM · · Score: 3

    Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem about going bald? Or having some deep complex about body hair in general?

    It's not hair or lack of it that makes people look good or bad. You tend to lose it during your early middle age, and frankly it's not the hair situation which makes you look over the hill. If you're like most Western guys it's things like your hanging belly, heavy jowls and plushy, coarse, unkempt complexion that makes you look old and pathetic, not the follicle density of your skull top. You could have a mane big enough to play in a hair band and you'd still look old and pathetic.

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    1. Re:Baldness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Going bald basically magnifies whatever insecurities and self-esteem issues you have already.

      Vain people can become pretty skilled at hiding their vanities and vulnerabilities, but losing hair literally unmasks them.

    2. Re:Baldness by timmarhy · · Score: 1

      i couldn't care less if i was bald as a new born. the ladies however, beg to differ

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    3. Re:Baldness by JanneM · · Score: 2, Funny

      i couldn't care less if i was bald as a new born. the ladies however, beg to differ

      "The ladies" - like every woman (like every man) would have the same taste or the same priorities? Perhaps it's being the kind of person that calls women "the ladies" that pushes them off?

      Again, for most middle-aged people it's not the hair, it's the habitual Nixon-after-a-bender look that's the basic problem.

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    4. Re:Baldness by timmarhy · · Score: 1
      you completely missed the point that this kind of thing is going to be snapped up by poor bastards in their mid twenties who've lost most of their hair. of course middle aged people are less likely to give a crap, thank you captain obvious.

      and no i'm not talking about myself i've got a full head of hair, before you go off on some wild assumption.

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    5. Re:Baldness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ooo the metrosexual strikes back

    6. Re:Baldness by mirshafie · · Score: 1

      Well, yea. A large chunk of the men go bald in mid-life, but some go bald MUCH earlier. My cousin is 20 and he has lost all the hair on the top on his head, all in about two years time. It's fine if you're brave enough to face something like that, but don't tell me it's not a pretty hard blow. Human beings are naturally concerned about how they look. That's all.

    7. Re:Baldness by trenien · · Score: 1
      That said, after going through:

      1- I care, I don't like what it does to my already not so great sex-appeal

      2- I don't care, it's not that important for the above mentionned

      I find myself that I do care. It's got to the point where there really isn't much left in front, and I've never been a hat/cap wearing person. As a result I keep getting sunburns there and that really is a pain (both litteraly and figuratively).

    8. Re:Baldness by heyitsgogi · · Score: 1

      Right. On the other hand, women and men who lose their hair due to cancer or other diseases, who aren't otherwise "jowly" would probably much appreciate finally getting to have hair again.

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    9. Re:Baldness by fsmunoz · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Going bald is not something that people would chose if they could avoid it, but it's not the great drama some people make of it. You touch a very important point: going bald is bad when everything else in you is not that good either. I'm not talking about being "pretty", but being *fit*. That makes a world of difference, whereas hair is more or less secondary if everything else is in a decent shape.

    10. Re:Baldness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not in my early middle age, you insensitive clod!

    11. Re:Baldness by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Not to take away from your point, but it's not the cancer that causes the baldness, it's the chemotherapy. If the chemotherapy works and kills the cancer cells, it is stopped and your hair grows back. If the chemotherapy doesn't work, then hair loss is the least of your problems.

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    12. Re:Baldness by falloutboy · · Score: 1

      I'm 26 and I'm already losing significant amounts of hair on the top and espeically the crown of my head. It'll probably be completely gone by the time I'm 30, if it takes that long. You think its no big deal? Try shaving just that part of your head for a few weeks and see how it feels. Keep me posted.

    13. Re:Baldness by heyitsgogi · · Score: 1

      Not always. My mother had cancer in 1992/93. She underwent intensive radiation therapy as well as chemo, and finally a bone-marrow transplant. She's cancer-free, and hasn't had radiation or chemo in years, but she also hasn't had much more than a few whisps of hair on her head ever since.

      add to that diseases like Alopecia, and for a lot of people, hair-loss *is* a serious thing. I'm not saying it's life-threatening but being a woman without hair can be really destabilizing, and having a chance at growing it back is amazing.

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    14. Re:Baldness by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I started losing my hair at around age 16. I was a bit worried because obviously high-school students are mostly evil and I didn't want to give them yet another name to call me, but it wasn't really visible since I had a big bushy head of long, wavy, early-1990s-tortured-artist hair at the time.

      Once school was over and the socially-active mutants I called my classmates ceased being a worry, I didn't have much of a problem with it. In fact, since I started buzzing it all off a few years ago, I find I really prefer how I look and feel. Additionally, people are occasionally inspired to rub my head, which is quite soothing.

      Plus, I discovered the big secret that would put all these baldness researchers and hair clubs for men and wigmakers out of business in a hurry if every man realized it.. nobody cares. Bald men are all over the place, they've always been a part of society, and the world in general does not pay them any special attention for better or worse.

    15. Re:Baldness by British · · Score: 1

      I started losing my hair at around age 16. I was a bit worried because obviously high-school students are mostly evil and I didn't want to give them yet another name to call me, but it wasn't really visible since I had a big bushy head of long, wavy, early-1990s-tortured-artist hair at the time.

      Once school was over and the socially-active mutants I called my classmates ceased being a worry, I didn't have much of a problem with it. In fact, since I started buzzing it all off a few years ago, I find I really prefer how I look and feel. Additionally, people are occasionally inspired to rub my head, which is quite soothing.


      Since we're spilling our hearts out like this was an Oprah episode:

      I started losing my hair at 19(thankfully past high school). Yes, at one time I had a freakin' mullet. But then the top started thinning. Several years later I decided to bite the bullet like you, and shave it all off. I now am as hairless as my uncle & father, even though you get baldness from your mother's side.

      I too get the head rubbing treatment. One roller derby girl did it to me before she went on the rink to my flattery. We can all thank our friend Buddah for starting that trend. Yes, it is smoothing.

      Another advantage is with a bald head, you now have a tactile sensor network around your head. Any slight displacement of air and you can feel it. Sadly, this means having to wear hats in windy weather, but you save tons on hair care products, only needing to buy razor blades.

    16. Re:Baldness by PhilipMckrack · · Score: 1

      I am balding and I really don't care. When I was younger I had all the skate/shaved/dread/bangs/normal/mullet(it was the 80's) haircuts I could get at different times. My mom was always telling me that I was going to make my hair fall out faster by doing what I was doing. My reply was always that by looking at both sides of my family, I had better have my fun while I could. Now it gets cut with the #2 trimmer every time and I had my fun. It's no big deal to me. I actually prefer the short haircut now since I haven't combed or even dried my hair in years. Towel off and I'm ready to roll. The only problem I have is the sunburns, but I'm getting better about wearing a hat or using sunscrean on if I'm outside.

      I have a friend on the other hand who has spent thousands only to have a head of hair that looks like he's doing something strange to his head. He is massively sensitive about it and it is not a subject to be discussed. I'm sure he would be jumping with joy and shelling out the cash if this works.

    17. Re:Baldness by Sancho · · Score: 1

      I'm 28 with the same issues, and I feel the same way, so it really pains me to do this--but it had to be said.

      Your nick is sadly ironic.

    18. Re:Baldness by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

      Ever try getting a sun burn on your head? It hurts like hell. But hair comes back for me every time. I don't lay out and get a burn, but when I forget to put sun screen on my head and I burn hair actually grows back where I have lost it. It also grows back at a faster rate then the rest of my hair which is really weird. Having a few hairs appear in the desert that is my receding hair line is funny to say the least.

    19. Re:Baldness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, bald women on the other hand...

    20. Re:Baldness by TobyWong · · Score: 1

      Speaking from experience, some women find baldness to be sexy but the majority I have met prefer hair (or at least the option to grow a full head of hair). This is especially true for younger women (20 - 30) but as you get into the 30's women don't seem to care about it as much anymore.

      The way I've always thought of it is any woman who would get so hung up on such a superficial detail is not the kind of person I would want to spend a significant amount of time with anyhow. It reveals a lot about their character.

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    21. Re:Baldness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what would you say to a teenager?

    22. Re:Baldness by skapunker21 · · Score: 1

      I started losing my hair right out of high school. By the time I was 21 I had the same hairline as my 85 year old grandfather, which is to say I only had hair on the side of my head and the back. All the men on my mothers side have gone bald before they were 30, some a bit later than others. Only one of my male cousins still has his full head of hair, but he's only 25, so he still has time to catch up to the rest of us.

    23. Re:Baldness by Alligator427 · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem about going bald? Or having some deep complex about body hair in general?
      It's not hair or lack of it that makes people look good or bad. You tend to lose it during your early middle age, and frankly it's not the hair situation which makes you look over the hill. If you're like most Western guys it's things like your hanging belly, heavy jowls and plushy, coarse, unkempt complexion that makes you look old and pathetic, not the follicle density of your skull top. You could have a mane big enough to play in a hair band and you'd still look old and pathetic. I started going bald a few years ago, at the time I had a thick mane that was always tied back in a neat little ponytail, but I was getting a baldspot and occasionally, it was shining through the back. When I shaved off all my hair, I was *amazed* at how much *better* I looked than when I had the ponytail. I thought I was nuts at first but everyone I know agrees I should have cut it all of years ago. I think if I started growing back my hair, I would still shave it all off.

      I had been *qute* preoccupied with my hairloss until I decided to give it the buzz, now I couldn't possibly care less, I had checked out a few forums online at one point where people were discussing various ways of treating their baldness and they all seemed so sad and unhappy, I didn't want to be like that so I just said, "fuck it, it is what it is" and just shaved it all off ... But I'm also lucky to have a nicely shaped head. :-)
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    24. Re:Baldness by localman · · Score: 1

      So true: I am balding at 34 yet I am regularly carded when buying alcohol, and people often guess I'm in my early 20s. Even taking into account the pressure to underguess age, I think that says something. And it's not just age, it doesn't seriously hinder overall attractiveness as far as i can tell: when my wife's not looking I can generally win the attention of other fine females ;)

      That said, I do wish I had more hair. I don't know why... it hasn't seemed to interefere with my life in any meaningful way. But if there was a reasonably safe and effective way to restore what I've lost, I'd probably go for it. I mean, why not?

      Cheers.

    25. Re:Baldness by mark-t · · Score: 1

      ...nobody cares.

      This is untrue. While it's true that most people don't care about baldness in other people, a great deal of people *DO* care about baldness in themselves. Why? One word. Vanity.

      Vanity may not be particularly logical or practical or even seem worthy of recognition to some, but it is a simple fact that it is part and parcel of the human condition. A real and lasting cure for baldness would make its inventors very rich very quickly.

    26. Re:Baldness by the_weasel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I started going bald at 17. After 4 years, I had the classic 'George Costanza' crown - a fringe of hair around my head at the level of my ears, and a big old bald spot on the top. That seemed to be the equilibrium, and how things stand today, 15 years later.

      Needless to say, it made me look significantly older, and not in any good way. I keep my head entirely shaved now, something I started at 19.

      Nowadays, having your head completely shaved in western society is completely acceptable for a young person. It hasn't always been that way - when i started, the smallish community where I lived was full of people who took that to mean I was a skinhead, punk, or other 'undesirable' (in their estimation). That sort of thing can have a profound impact - from employment options to social interaction.

      Would I have been interested in a legitimate, functioning option to restore natural hair growth? Hell yes.

      The assumption that all 'cosmetic' therapies are meritless is narrow minded. I concur that plastic surgery, beauty treatments, hair loss and so forth are things which are abused to a great degree in modern society, but that doesn't eliminate the legitimate need for the development of these treatments.

      I agree with your assesment of what makes people look 'old'. Not picking on you directly, just the trend of negative comments I see in this thread.

      Forgetting my own trivial hair loss problem - my sister had a car accident that DESTROYED her face. Amazingly, to this day you can barely tell. They pretty much rebuilt her jaw and nose from scratch. The re-constructive surgery that made her 'human' again was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen, and it was all done by a team of plastic surgeons who make their day to day living giving strippers bigger boobs.

      As always, no topic is strictly black and white.

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  21. Hmm.. by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

    It reads like going bald is a bad thing. It's normal, it's natural. Ditto going grey, getting wrinkles and whatever else age brings. Why are we so obsessed with looking like a lie? It's not healthy.
    And no, I'm not bald (yet) but going that way but there's no way I'm fighting it. Heck, it even has plus points - makes washing your hair and worrying about what style to keep it in a whole lot simpler - just razz it all off with a grade 2 every couple of weeks.

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    1. Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a bad thing when, like me, you're 23 and loosing it fast.

    2. Re:Hmm.. by eggegg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are funny. First, death is normal and natural, but only the mentally infirm, religious zealot, or deluded refuse to think it's a bad thing.

      Second, nothing says "obsessed with looking like a lie" more than "razz[ing] it all off with a grade 2 every couple of weeks".

      Third, like it or not, people in modern western culture embrace the styling, coloring, cut, and decoration of hair as a significant expression of one's individuality, identity, or alliance with others. It's something of a tradition amongst homo sapien societies, dating back at least a few millenia, if not a few hundred. It's also normal and natural, by the way, to feel really f-ing pissed off when you are involuntarily deprived of participating in such a tradition.

      But hey -- maybe you are consistently rude. If so, don't waste your time with baldies -- I hear there's a bunch of radical mastectomy survivors wearing falsies. Talk about an easy target, eh? Go get 'em, tiger!

    3. Re:Hmm.. by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

      >maybe you are consistently rude
      It's rude saying people shouldn't be self-obsessed with their looks?
      Clearly we're on different wavelengths beacase the rest of your post struck me as just plain bizarre.
      I've got a bald patch on top, a thin bit at the front and the usual back & sides stuff but it really doesn't bother me and I certainly don't feel a need to be in alliences c/o my hair cut.

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    4. Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why razz it all off every couple of weeks? It's not "normal" or "natural". You should just let it (or what's left of it) grow!

    5. Re:Hmm.. by somasynth · · Score: 1

      Ditto going grey, getting wrinkles and whatever else age brings So arthritis, alzheimers, cancer, these are all beautiful things to you? I've heard myths of people like you but I didn't think they actually exist. Baldness, wrinkles, etc, while purely cosmetic are all underlying problems much like a severe illness. The inflammatory response in baldness, for example, slightly raises the risk of heart and other autoimmune disease. So yes, these are bad things.
    6. Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I became bald at ~23 years old. I'm now 29, and I want my hair back. Has nothing to do with lying as it does looking in the mirror knowing that other people feel the same way I do about it.

      In addition, to those people who say that I should be happy with my looks and have a good self-image: I prefer not to self-absorb myself with lies and false hopes, only to be constantly be disappointed/depressed due to other people's reactions.

    7. Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in the "don't care" category about baldness - I guess I did care a little when I started losing it, but I'm fine now. I care a bit more about losing teeth (2 crowns so far). And don't look forward to losing my mind, if that's in my future, but maybe I won't care by then.

  22. Market science at work by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    So we got viagra to keep people up and we'll soon have $name_to_add_to_spamfilter to cure the loss of hair, but still no reliable cure for cancer and let's not talk about AIDS.

    But why?

    Money, people. Simply and plainly, money.

    Imagine you found a cure for AIDS. A cure. Not some half-assed treatment like we do now (though, treating something is more profitable than curing... but I ramble). What would immediately happen? The WHO would start jumping to your neck and throttle you 'til you let that (presumably) ass expensive cure out for "free", because the area most affected by AIDS is also the one with the least dough to pay for it. DARE to not give that cure away for free there and you'll be picketed for the rest of your existance, which could be rather short.

    Would you invest in a cure for AIDS? I won't, if I was Sandoz or Roche.

    A cure for baldness on the other hand, you can sell for whatever insane sum you want. It's not like people need hair to survive, it's not life threatening to shine like Kojak. But people WANT hair. And a lot of them would pay any price to get their "good looks" back.

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    1. Re:Market science at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      seriously, are you a moron? do you really think only poor black people get aids? what kind of racist prick are you? there's more money in a cure for aids then baldness, because for a start 50% of the population (women you tool) are hardly effected by baldness, but they can get aids. and the old wives tale that companys make more from treating an illness then curing it needs to be stomped on. as a person who worked in health care for years - THERE IS NO LACK OF SICK PEOPLE. there always will be a great demand for drugs and health products, they won't "cure" themselfs out of business.

      have you fucking got that?

    2. Re:Market science at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, there are plenty of sick people, but will you be able to charge outrageous prices for something that can save lives? No. There will be many people whom will not be able afford it, thereby inducing political action against your high prices. Can you charge outrageous prices for some cosmetic enhancement that no one really needs? Yes. No lives are at stake, and thus no price controls.

    3. Re:Market science at work by mahju · · Score: 1

      I think that you're missing the point here... Its not that money is being diverted from cancer to hair, rather its money diverted from shiny wheels for a Porche to hair gunk, i.e. its the market working correctly directing money to where there's profit.

      Now if the government that I pay taxes too was spending money on making shiny Porche wheels a little lighter rather than trying to cure cancer, I'd be pissed... but private companies just making some money selling tatt to joe public??? Like I care.

    4. Re:Market science at work by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      So we got viagra to keep people up and we'll soon have $name_to_add_to_spamfilter to cure the loss of hair, but still no reliable cure for cancer and let's not talk about AIDS.

      But why?

      Money, people. Simply and plainly, money.
      Yup, you're exactly right. There's absolutely no way that we don't have cures for cancer and AIDS because they're actually difficult problems to solve.
    5. Re:Market science at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tens of billions have been wasted on AIDS research (2 billion/per year in the US alone), so I don't get your point (same for cancer).

    6. Re:Market science at work by kelnos · · Score: 1

      do you really think only poor black people get aids? what kind of racist prick are you? Funny, the parent poster didn't say anything about race, black or otherwise. Troll much?

      Regardless, it is a fact that the areas of highest AIDS incidence in the world are also some of the poorest areas. Sure, well-off people get AIDS too, but they're the minority.
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  23. What's the name of the gene? by laejoh · · Score: 1

    The Tom Jones gene by any chance?

    1. Re:What's the name of the gene? by Stanislav_J · · Score: 1

      I was thinking more Jack Lord. Now, THERE was a head of hair!

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  24. Re:Hm by timmarhy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    i've traveled europe, and your wrong unless your thing is haggard chain smokers who wear too much makeup and have hairy pits and boxes.

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  25. Gene therapy is so uncool... graze your head! by Kensai7 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Funny thing though. In this week's Nature there is this article where American scientists speculate on an alternative method to promote de novo follicle growth [in mice] via... grazing of the scalp.

    I quote the scoop from the New Scientist's entry:
    Could a graze on the head help cure baldness? Biologists had thought that once mammals lose their hair follicles, they are gone forever. Now George Cotsarelis at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and his colleagues have shown that adult mice can regenerate follicles when their skin is wounded.

    The team cut out a square centimetre of skin from the backs of mice two weeks after their hair follicles had formed. After 14 to 19 days the wounds had closed and formed new. When the researchers added Wnt proteins - signalling molecules usually involved in embryonic development - the number of follicles doubled and the skin healed with less scarring. This suggests that wound healing may trigger an embryonic state in skin, says Cotsarelis. Surprisingly, the new follicles originate from stem cells that are not usually involved in creating hair follicles.

    Cotsarelis hopes the findings could lead to new therapies for baldness. "The idea would be to disrupt the skin to trigger the embryonic pathways, and then come in with the Wnt proteins," he says.

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    1. Re:Gene therapy is so uncool... graze your head! by aztektum · · Score: 1

      Dude, that's the same study. RTFA?

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    2. Re:Gene therapy is so uncool... graze your head! by brer_rabbit · · Score: 1
      The team cut out a square centimetre of skin from the backs of mice two weeks after their hair follicles had formed. After 14 to 19 days the wounds had closed and formed new.

      cool, it works for back hair! I'll never have a bald back again!

    3. Re:Gene therapy is so uncool... graze your head! by AngelWind · · Score: 1

      He did. He's saying give you head a bigass bloody wound (equal to the amount of baldness you have) so the skin will heal, and with it you'll get your hair back with new follicle growth.

      The tricky part is finding something that will take off the skin without taking the rest of your head with it.

    4. Re:Gene therapy is so uncool... graze your head! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean... something like a razor?

      Perhaps there is something to the old myth that shaving makes the beard grow.

  26. 200# by LandruBek · · Score: 1

    They're hot when they're young, but time wounds all heels -- they don't look so great when they weigh 200#.

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  27. Baldness?? Baldness?! by boolithium · · Score: 1

    Anyone wondering if corperate interests drive research, I give you this. Nothing on cancer, nothing on aids, or any other serious issue. No baldness is what we really need to work on. After all what good is that viagra, if your not getting laid. This not my sci-fi vision of genetic engineering. If they're not going to help, the least they could do is give me my 2-headed bobcat with laser eyes.

  28. Bah - going bald hasn't hurt my success rate... by lendude · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...with the ladies.

    I'm still 0 out of 100 somethin' and counting.

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  29. How localised can it get.... by svunt · · Score: 1

    I wonder what Nike would pay me to grow a nice thick swish on my back for summer.

    1. Re:How localised can it get.... by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

      What's really funny is that many people would pay good money to grow a Nike swish.

      And in todays climate would then likely get sued for copyright/trademark infringement !

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  30. Disappointed... by craagz · · Score: 1
    I was expecting many more funny comments in this post.. Especially since it deals with baldness (a very good topic for jokes)

    Today's bald joke: The best thing about being bald is... when her folks come home, all you have to do is straighten your tie.
  31. Re:Hm by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 1

    Getting some is getting some isn't it?

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  32. Anyone ever notice... by xyankee · · Score: 1

    How those in the IT industry tend to lose more hair earlier than those who don't? I look at the people who work outdoors all day and generally they have healthy heads of hair (I'm not just talking Hispanics here, who are genetically less likely to experience hair loss). But those who sit in front of monitors all day seem to say byebye to their follicles quite early.

    Makes you wonder what other ailments techies will find themselves with down the road (along with that tumor by their preferred ear for holding your cell phone up to).

    At least techies generally make enough $ to afford what will undoubtedly be this overpriced treatment, should it ever emerge (a friend of a friend was on the team that developed Propecia, you should see the houses and cars he has...).

  33. Old Fogeys out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should we care about this?

    It's not as if slashdotters are over 40 or anything! Leave this to the wrinkleys with one foot in the grave.

    Why don't they all just sod off and die somewhere? We're still contributing to the planet.

  34. I prefer chinese ointments by the_arrow · · Score: 1

    And if they smell bad it's a plus.
    But it have to be ordered by the pizza delivery guy.

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  35. Re:Hm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sour grapes", timmarhy? Or is it your g.f. o.s. ?

  36. Google Research by xerent_sweden · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who first read this as "Google Research Gives Hope of Reversing Baldness"? :)

  37. Re:Hm by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 1

    i've traveled europe,

    Want to detail where in Eastern Europe you've been? Bulgaria? Romania? Estonia?

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  38. Okay! by camperdave · · Score: 1

    I was expecting many more funny comments in this post.. Especially since it deals with baldness (a very good topic for jokes)

    How about...

    "We're all born with the same amount of hormones. If you want to use yours for growing hair, that's your business."

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  39. Hmm by mapkinase · · Score: 3, Informative
    First, as usual, missing ref to orig article in Nature. Now to the article:

    hair growth can actually be encouraged using a single gene.
    If you look at corresponding KEGG entry for gene Wnt10b that was expressed in regenerated follicles you will find that besides Wnt signalling pathway[PIC!] (also here) mentioned in the paper. this particular gene is also involved in Basal cell carcinoma pathway.

    Both pathways are cancer-related and the first one is fairly complex, so there will be (hopefully) a lot of (lengthy) research intended to find out possible side effects.
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  40. Great... More RMS clones... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's great news! Now all you geeks can grow long, flowing manes like your god RMS instead of your sad Friar Tuck ponytail hairdos.

  41. Science should not play with works of art... by master_p · · Score: 1

    ...like this.

  42. one good thing is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hair dressers and barbershops will now have more customers....

  43. yes by biscon · · Score: 1

    It would seem that you are

  44. Not at all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have numbers? I'm just curious. I've noticed nothing of the sort, and it occurs to me that the physical environments most techies have (desktop box, flatscreen monitor, etc.) don't differ significantly from those of the typical accountant / lawyer. If there is a difference, to where could it be traced? Thought patterns?

    To me, it appears to be *very* random. I haven't been able to tie it to anything. (Aside: Ask ten women to choose either hair or a 6-pack of abs. I guarantee 9 of 10 will choose the 6-pack. As someone else noted here, overall physical conditioning is more important to one's appearance.)

    At the risk of tired stereotyping, I've noticed an increased incidence of obesity and lack of sun exposure in techies relative to the general population.

  45. Research priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi:

    Somewhere decisions were being made at Pfizer a few years ago: 'We have a finite research budget, do we cure cancer or work on an erection pill?' And we know how the middle-aged men around the boardroom table voted. I for one, am glad that the thick around the middle, balding white guys are in pharma boardrooms as they have my interests at heart!

  46. Hair and cancer by phorm · · Score: 1

    Also, doesn't hair help protect again cancer to some extent? A bald head may be getting a bit more in the way of UV rays and sunburn than a fully haired one.

  47. Close, but... by catdevnull · · Score: 1

    If they can figure out how to stop hair from growing on one's back, ears, and nose, that will be where the smart money goes...

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  48. Short and white by el+cisne · · Score: 1

    Ok, well, if that's the only way, I guess having short, white, mouse hair instead of my natural hair will have to do. :-D translated : (^_^)

  49. I'm all for biotech! by mano_k · · Score: 1

    This finally has convinced me that there should be no more obstacles to genetic research!
    You can fill my garden with modified man eating plants, you can kill my neighbours with terrible designer diseases, I don't care as long as you can give me back my hair!

  50. Enough! by Kilraven · · Score: 1

    It has been 45 years since the first successful salvo, aiding women in the fight against small breast antipathy, was fired - thank you Cronin and Gerow! 16 years since coke-bottle spectacles could be removed allowing Slashdot readers to look less-nerdy.

    What of the poor, demasculinized baldies?

    In the past fifty years they've been given tonics, wigs, a classy British actor, plugs, and transplantations. None of which truly offer salvation to the downtrodden. Why are women and those with poor vision helped with silicon stress-balls and glorified laser pens - both of which are fun to play with - while those with male pattern baldness are stuck with Miracle-Gro and doll's hair? If it takes our best scientific minds to right this injustice, so be it!

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    1. Re:Enough! by fsmunoz · · Score: 1

      What of the poor, demasculinized baldies?

      I know you meant it more in jest than ahything, but there is very little "demasculinized" in people that are bald, especially those that sahve their heads. If anything crop-2 and below appear in general more agressive - agressiveness being one of the main traits in masculinity, of course - than man with hair by their shoulders.

      On the other hand you do have a point: depending on the person losing hair can have an effect on self-esteem, and that directly affects masculinity. It's not the aesthetical part of it that is more troublesome, but the reaction to it.

    2. Re:Enough! by Kilraven · · Score: 1

      but there is very little "demasculinized" in people that are bald, especially those that sahve their heads. If anything crop-2 and below appear in general more agressive Which is why I decided to leave athletics out of my post. Instead, placing an ambiguous reference readers here would appreciate, and not one laced with testosterone-filled undertones that may detract from my intended visual.
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    3. Re:Enough! by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      but there is very little "demasculinized" in people that are bald, especially those that sahve their heads. If anything crop-2 and below appear in general more agressive Which is why I decided to leave athletics out of my post. Instead, placing an ambiguous reference readers here would appreciate, and not one laced with testosterone-filled undertones that may detract from my intended visual. Who mentioned athletics? What about hardened criminals and gangsters with shaved heads? What about the soliders and police officers?

      I started shaving my head when I started getting thin on the top and some of the ladies really like it. I'd rather shave than try to hide the thinning hair with a nasty comb over or a wig. A side effect of it all is that I'm never hassled on the street where ever I go because I look more like a thug or cop this way.

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  51. Propecia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been taking the little pink pills for 8 years. When I started, I had a serious receeding hairline and was very thin up top. Now I have a full head of hair and no sign of any baldness. The pills aren't cheap though. They cost me about $1.50 (US) each and I take one every day.

  52. Do It Yourself and Save by Iridium_Hack · · Score: 1

    I never really thought about taking sandpaper or a wood file to my head before this but having read the article it should be nicer than the turtlewax thing.

  53. Oh. Okay. by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

    At first I read that as "Badness".. and it kinda freaks me out that I was not surprised at all :/

  54. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you mean Rogene.

  55. Roddenberry's depressing prediction: by RexDevious · · Score: 1

    I always found it somewhat disheartening that, in the futuristic era of Star Trek, we'll apparently be able to travel faster than light (warp engines), consider gravity itself to be little more than a house-hold utility (which miraculously stays on even when ship has been destroyed for decades), synthesize food in seconds in our bedrooms, create artificial reality so real it needs safety settings (and doesn't even need some poor bastard to mop up after VR's involving super-models), create lasers that not only blow up ships, but can actually be heard (Vzzzom!) in the vaccum of space, cure anything with a hypospray, etc, etc, etc...

    but Warf and Pickard are both still as bald as plucked chickens.

    A more realistic techno-topia would probably involve everyone walking around looking like movie-stars (with comically large sex organs for the guys), and 15 year waiting list for the holodeck. Plus, I'm pretty sure that there'd be *at least* one Mexican somewhere.

  56. laser hair removal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    laser hair removal, at least in western europe its available everywhere, and its permanent (well actually I don't think its been around for more than a couple of decades, but so far no one reported their hair growing back)

  57. Well I for one... by ChrTssu · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our newly hairy overlords!

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  58. Serbia, here... by absurdist · · Score: 1

    ...where all the 14-year-old girls try to look 25.

  59. SWEET!!! by axia777 · · Score: 1

    This is some great news. I knew this was coming. I have been telling people to wait for this, but they all thought I was crazy. Nope, not crazy, just a little a head in my prediction. I love Biotech. It is GREAT! I am not bald yet, but it is heading that way. I hope they hurry this up and have it paid for by my insurance. Hell, if they pay for Viagra for oldsters, then they can pay for Gene Therapy for guys like me.

  60. Single gene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how they always say "just a single gene" in articles like this. Yes a single gene, in millions upon millions of cell copies. Not so simple sounding a fix anymore, at least not with gene therapy's current track record.

  61. Russia? by keeboo · · Score: 1

    I though it was in Estonia where things got hairy recently...

  62. Are you for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you spent ANY TIME AT ALL in Prague or Budapest?

    I remember walking down the street in Budapest and every other woman was drop-dead gorgeous. Like supermodel-quality.

    There's a reason why all the women in the "Pink Velvet" pornos are Hungarian.