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What's the Worst Technical Feature You've Used?

kooky45 asks: "In an effort to make our lives easier and more entertaining, technology designers pack more and more features into electronic devices, but often they're more nuisance than they're worth. An earlier article on LEDs discussed some of these. Another example is my Nokia 6320i mobile phone which has a back lit screen that drains the battery life at an alarming rate. When the phone is not in use the back light is off; if the battery starts to run low, it gives me regular warnings by beeping and turning the back light on! What other examples of designer stupidity have you seen?"

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  1. It will come up sooner or later... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clippy.

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    1. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Corpuscavernosa · · Score: 4, Funny

      You actually used Clippy? Man, what a friggin' dork! ;)

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    2. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Vanayr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bob, definitely Bob

    3. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Jhon · · Score: 3, Funny
      Clippy was bad... this predates it:

      It may not be a "feature" I've intentionally used and it may not be the WORST, but it always gave me a chuckle WayBackWhen (tm) I'd turn on my PC without a keyboard plugged in:


      Error: No keyboard present

      Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP


      Wonderful advice...
    4. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      My high school had a batch of computers that would regularly boot to some variant of "Error: No keyboard present. Press F1 to continue." In fact, it was so regular that all the students knew to just hit F1 on the darn-tooting-it-was-present keyboard. And it worked.

    5. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Torodung · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Clippy" is not a technical feature.

      "Clippy" is a four letter word. Microsoft couldn't even get that open standard right!

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    6. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That is a good one. It reminds me of Logitech's web site. If for some reason you need to re-install your mouse driver because it is not working you can conveniently download it from their web site.

      After the 30 minutes it takes to navigate the site using the tab key (since your mouse is not working) you get to their friendly download link, which uses some javascript or something to make a download button that can only be clicked on by a mouse. Brilliant!

    7. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're using microsoft, try Start->Settings->Control Panel->Accessibility Options->Mouse->Use mousekeys

    8. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by edwdig · · Score: 5, Funny

      I once found the text strings stored in the BIOS of my 286. Not far from the standard "Keyboard error, press F1 to continue." message was "CPU not found. System halted."

      I always wondered how they intended to display that message.

    9. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      On that note I'm going for IE, versions 4 thru 7 (the only ones I have experience with.)

      And before MS fans get all pissy, I'll admit up front that I'm completely and totally biased. See, I was introduced to the 'net in the Netscape 2.0 days (yeah, I'm not very l33t, sorry) and that was the context wthin which I learned what a browser, the internet, WWW and email is. In fact, if memory serves, pretty much everybody I knew in those days who had a PC and a 'net connection was running Netscape. I'm not even sure if they were even bothering with such stupid shit as "browser market share" yet.

      Anyway, it was a good year or so before I even touched IE, because Netscape started crashing a whole hell of a lot. And I just plain didn't like it. It did nothing special that Netscape didn't do, and there were plenty of things it didn't do that Netscape did. Hell, it even crashed on a regular basis. Oh, and it was slow as shit, which was hilarious considering how it was tied into the OS. Page rendering was a joke. The menus were typical MS WTF? It was bland. I hated it.

      There were a few lean years there. Even with NS 4.79, it was still flaky on both Mac and PC. iCab was cute but twitchy, then Mozilla gave hope then Firefox released their non-crashy version and everything was muuuuuch better.

      I looked in on IE from time to time, as circumstances warranted, and even with its belated tabness is still does shit that irritates from way earlier versions.

      I have no doubt that IE can one day be a good and even great browser, a thousand monkeys and all that. But so far, it represents years of stagnation, which is sad considering the clout and the talent behind it.

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    10. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Office 2007.

      They ever so helpfully rearanged everything. "Now how do I ..."


      Most people I've known have really liked the new interface. And I'm not talking about Microsoft fans, either. Much cleaner and more intuitive.

      I'm not MS fan, but the Office 2007 UI is about the last thing I'd bash them for.

    11. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by saddlark · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Old motherboards tended to intermittently fry a capacitor or so if you plugged in a PS/2 keyboard while the computer was running.

    12. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by aichpvee · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am attempting to say "Windows Vista" [allow] [deny]

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    13. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by malsdavis · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most motherboards these days are pretty resilient to it, but it is still supposedly possible. The main risk is if the connector's pins bend and touch each other (and even then has to be certain ones) as you plug it in, this can cause a short circuit and can completely fry a motherboard (actually it would only fry a tiny 1 cent micro-controller but in today's throw-away-society that of course means the entire board is as good as bust). Never actually seen it happen in front of me, it always seems to be one of those "it happened to a friend of a friend" type stories.

    14. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just a wild shot in the dark (actually it's not), but could it perhaps be the BIOS?
      You must have been deliberately casting magic missile at the darkness, then. The BIOS is a program, stored in ROM, which allows other programs to quickly and easily interact with the system hardware at a high level. Being a program, it consists of sequences of CPU instructions, and you can't very well execute CPU instructions if you don't have a CPU...
    15. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Skylinux · · Score: 2, Informative

      Probably for debugging, I program micro controllers every once in a while and use a serial connection to transmit information back to my PC. It is a lot easier reading a message from a terminal screen then it is reading blinking LEDs ;)

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    16. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Twisted64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A colleague next to me is swearing black and blue that he's seen the message, and he's never delved into the BIOs error messages. I keep telling him to post it for a +5 informative, but since he can't explain it, I'm posting it as a curiousity.

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    17. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by vuffi_raa · · Score: 2, Informative

      yeah I know what you mean- I had an ethernet driver disc that tried to check online for updates before it could install the driver

    18. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All of the cool kids used the puppy.

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    19. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by ggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh, once while trying to fix a old Dell, I had to run their wonderful Dell Diagnostics application (to get any support from their support).
      The diagnostics application informed me that the computer lacked a motherboard.

      I'm still in awe over that one...

    20. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by Myself · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in the AT days when the keyboard was more important than the mouse, there existed a "key lock", which was a physical lock on the front of the machine that disabled the keyboard. Insert key, turn, remove key, machine is now useless. I'm explaining this in detail because I'm sure some whippersnappers out there have never encountered it.

      In a perfect world, both wires leading from the switch behind the lock would be isolated from the lock body. On our 386, one of them was common with the metal lock, which was mounted in the plastic front panel. Since the plug wasn't polarized, you had a 50% chance of getting this wire connected to ground. In our case, this wire was apparently connected to the keyboard controller. Thus, scuffing across the carpet and then touching the lock resulted in the machine freezing. One day, it also resulted in a funny smell and visible smoke from the power supply fan.

      So we immediately shut the power off (back when men were men and power switches actually interrupted the AC input!) and opened the machine to see whence the magic smoke had come. The metallic sticker on the keyboard BIOS chips was shriveled and charred, and even after the time it took us to get the cover off, it was still hot to the touch. Uh oh.

      Just on a lark, we decided to fire the beast back up and watch the fireworks. With the cover off and safety glasses all around.... it booted! As if nothing had happened! We unplugged they keylock from the motherboard, put the cover back on, and the machine served us well for many more years. I'd have to check which mobo is in the basement DOS box but I think it might still be with us.

      So what the heck happened? IANAEE, but I think it was a textbook case of latchup.

      As the article states, hot-plugged connections often result in unpredictable power sequencing, which can also result in latchup. This could be one of the failure modes when hot-plugging keyboard with DIN plugs. Note that the power and ground contacts in a USB connector are longer than the data contacts, ensuring that they make first and break last. That's proper sequencing, and prevents the data lines from acting as surrogate power conductors for a portion of a mating cycle.

    21. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by IckySplat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ummm.... what planet are you from?
      The BIOS does NOT start the CPU.
      When a PC and fact most computers start, the reset pin will trigger the CPU
      to start executing code at a predetermined memory address. This address is usually hard coded
      into the CPU hardware. The address it loads and executes is usually the BIOS.

      When x86 CPU's boot they are very limited beasts. It's up the the BIOS code to figure out
      what exact model of CPU it is then enable all the neat extra features, like 32 or 64 bit modes
      SMP and other goodies.

      Comeon guys, this is basic stuff every geek should know.
      This is something that hasn't really changed for the last 20-40 years or so /me Very disappointed :(

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    22. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by PAjamian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember that keylock. Annoyed the hell out of the people who thought it was security when I just popped the case, and unplugged the jumper. Some of the original ones actually had a latch that locked the case itself closed as well. If you locked it and subsequently lost the key then the lock had to be drilled or the case forced open with a crowbar to fix it.
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    23. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by McGurk · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had that exact same fuckign thing happen to me. It pissed me off so bad that I have NEVER bought another logitech input device.

      Well, except for their bluetooth laptop mouse. Its the cheapest one on the market. But I'll be GODDAMNED if they think I'm going to install their bloated mouse software, the bastards!

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    24. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your motherboard has enough brains (somewhere) to bootstrap as far as BIOS config without a processor at all.

      A processor is what runs code. Without a processor, code doesn't run. There is no exception.

      To run without a main CPU, there would have to be a second processor on the board somewhere, which I can assure you there is not. The northbridge and southbridge chips are advanced these days, but they can't do any processing on their own.

      when you screw up the processor overclock settings, it doesn't work, and you can start up and correct the problem usually.

      Your BIOS bootstraps at an extremely early stage in the boot process, when your x86 PC is running in an 8-bit mode, and at the speed of an 8088. They simply put a "freeze" check early in the BIOS process, before it's been fully initalized, and use safe defaults to continue the POST process until video is initialized, and the user can be notified.
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    25. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by hesiod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seconded. It's a piece of crap and we hate it at work. So much so that we purchased a bunch of 2003 licenses we don't need so that we don't later get stuck with '07 when '03 isn't available any more.

    26. Re:It will come up sooner or later... by owlstead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, some USB keyboards take a long time to startup as well. But if a keyboard is not present, it's pretty easy to connect one and hit the damn F1 key, so I don't know how stupid this actually is. Most BIOS still have an option to stop if no keyboard is present, and you will still get this error message. It could have read "(re)connect keyboard and press F1", but I think most people can work this out, even lusers.

  2. beeping and turning the back light on by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if you're in a noisy enviroment or listening to headphones beeping and turning the back light on is a great idea. It is better to be alerted your battery is dying, than to discover you've missed hours of important calls.

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    1. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by amuro98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's what my previous phone would do. Turn the backlight on HIGH, and beep.

      Then, with its dying gasp, it would play the shutdown animation and music, which also would turn on the backlight.

      Really now, why do cellphones have these long, stupid start-up/shutdown animations?

      The other stupid thing about my previous cellphone was that it didn't have any sort of keylock, so when I'd put it in my pocket, I'd end up with 2 dozen shots of my keys in the dark.

      Cellphones, overall, are a bad technical feature.

    2. Re:beeping and turning the back light on by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why have lots of prank calls to emergency services when a keylock that's supposed to lock the keys - it's primary function - doesn't work?

      As mentioned, pressing *any key on the phone* except zero gives a highly informative display of "press unlock", with a big animated arrow pointing to the unlock button, and then once you've pressed that, "press *".

      If it's your phone, the odds that you will be dialing and you will know pretty well how to unlock said phone. If it's not your phone - to be honest, 10 seconds in getting emergency services doesn't count that much. In reality if the situation is that serious and you're the only one there, you should be busy giving first aid, ensuring someone's breathing, stopping bleeding or whatever, before you find the time to call emergency services. And if you're not alone, then the time you spend giving first aid more than compensates for the time it takes for another person with you to unlock an unfamiliar phone.

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  3. Windows Genuine Advantage by Tatisimo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The daily upgrades kept making the machine slower and the system was overly paranoid with too many unwanted pop ups.

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    1. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by Tatisimo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, I purchased the legitimate thing from a respectable, authorized seller. I don't download that stuff, and I keep my taskbar empty. I keep a crap ware free machine. I had to turn WGA off in order to keep it from slowing down my real work (which takes up a lot of ram already). But somehow, after 4 months of use, it decided that my copy was illegitimate. So it almost locked me out, till I called tech support to fix it. (Good thing I still had the warranty). Maybe I'm just not Windows 1337 enough for it... I guess I'll go back to DOS. or go on to Linux.

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    2. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Informative

      Funny thing is, I've been.. my FRIEND has been running a pirated copy of Vista since it came out, and according to Windows I have a 100% legit activated ASUS OEM copy. I never have to activate, I never get nagged, and I can download all the Microsoft stuff that require WGA.

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    3. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'll see your "annoying pop-up" and raise you an unwelcome automatic friggin' reboot. Turns out if you ignore the popup and arent at your computer it will just shut itself down anyway...

      Boss lost a half day's work from that... yes he should have saved the file properly (he insists he did), but *NO* the computer shouldnt have just rebooted on its own while he had lunch!

      You can turn this on/off by some group policy... cant remember where...

  4. Honda Stereo Security by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Funny

    My honda, and I think many others - have a security feature for the entertainment system. If the power is ever out to the unit, the owner must punch in a 4 digit code to turn it back on, after power is restored. If you forget the code, and don't have it written down somewhere - you can get it. You just need to remove the unit from the dash and call a dealer with a number written on the outside of it. This is not an easy process - and dealers will do it for you but it costs around $200 last time I checked. In other words - the only person who can easily get at the information necessary to the code is someone who already has the stereo out- like say a thief.

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    1. Re:Honda Stereo Security by dpaton.net · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or just call the dealer you bought the car from, give them the VIN, and they'll give you the code over the phone. I've been doing this off and on for a decade, and haven't had to give them anything else.

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    2. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Nos. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, if I'm going to steal the stereo from a Honda, take the extra couple of seconds and grab the VIN while I'm there.

    3. Re:Honda Stereo Security by LordEd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In some newer GM vehicles, the door chimes and "possibly" some other features (some rumours have floated around about airbags, although I highly doubt it) are tied into the radio unit. If you want to upgrade to an aftermarket deck (such as an MP3 unit), you either need to have the radio unit installed in parallel in the trunk with a special wiring kit, or have a module installed that takes over that functionality. That module costs an extra $150, i think.

      When I asked GM about the stupid design, they told me that they weren't sure if it was even technically possible to install an aftermarket deck, and that this is something that the majority of consumers want.

    4. Re:Honda Stereo Security by RealErmine · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can also use Honda's online Owner Link to store your radio code, unless you're afraid someone will hack your account and then steal your stereo. There's a special field for it and everything.

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    5. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Planesdragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When I asked GM about the stupid design, they told me that they weren't sure if it was even technically possible to install an aftermarket deck, and that this is something that the majority of consumers want.

      No, not really. The majority of consumers buy the radio as part of the car, just like any other part of the electrical system.

    6. Re:Honda Stereo Security by SoCalChris · · Score: 2, Informative

      I own two newer GM vehicles, there is some truth to this.

      You can easily add an after market stereo, although you will need an adapter. You can get one for about $30, although your door chime won't work (Which isn't necessarily a bad thing). An adapter that keeps the door chime working is about $80.

      One nice thing about the newer GM radios though is that the radio stores the VIN in the radio. You can disconnect the power as many times as you want, and the radio will always work, as long as it is installed in the vehicle that it came out of. You don't have to worry about remembering a code like in most other car stereos.

    7. Re:Honda Stereo Security by nasch · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess that's what you get for buying a fricking Malibu. Sorry, that was harsh. No wait, totally appropriate. :-)

    8. Re:Honda Stereo Security by Some_Llama · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clippy? (i.e. paperclip?)

    9. Re:Honda Stereo Security by veganboyjosh · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, if I'm going to steal the stereo from a Honda, take the extra couple of seconds and grab the VIN while I'm there.

      Or the car it's attached to.

    10. Re:Honda Stereo Security by amuro98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My dad bought the Taurus when it first came in out '84 or so. He spent extra to get the electronic LED dashboard. Had all sorts of nifty things like different computational settings to show how many miles to the gallon you were getting, average speed, etc. Well, unfortunately the bulb for the panel didn't last very long. After about 8 months or so, it would burn out. The bulb itself wasn't too expensive - maybe $3. However, getting to it required 2 mechanics 2 hours to remove the entire dashboard, 1 minute to replace the bulb, and then another 2 hours to put the dashboard back.

      One time he got pulled over by a cop. The cop asked "Do you know how fast you were going?" to which dad honestly replied "No." The cop saw that the dashboard was burned out, and let him off with a warning.

    11. Re:Honda Stereo Security by skintigh2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, my door chime stopped working one day when the little button on the door wore out. I thought it was good, too, until one morning it was really stormy so I turned on my headlights on the way to work, where they remained on all day, and I got to jump the car, in the rain, in a huge puddle after work. Then I did it 3 more times. I can jump a car in 45 seconds now.

      I turned down an offer to have the button fixed for $50 figuring I could do it myself faster and cheaper. I was wrong on both counts. I bought replacements for not much less, spent 3-5 hours in 80-90 degree 80% humidity weather losing parts inside my door, breaking grounding wires, debugging wiring harnesses with a volt meter, and basically losing my mind.

      But it works, damnit.

  5. On my Samsung LG-series phone by charlesbakerharris · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Driving mode.

    Ugh, the worst feature ever. It would turn on silently if you held down one of the outer buttons (which my pocket did, by itself, frequently.) Then, when a call came in, it would shout, over speakerphone, "Call from... <silence, because I hadn't entered any voice recognition names>"

    Thankfully, they removed it from the more recent models. It was so damn disruptive...

    1. Re:On my Samsung LG-series phone by lowid+(24)+_________ · · Score: 2, Funny

      My last phone was a samsung, and it was just terrible. Made me swear off samsung phones forever due to the inane number of bugs and random shutdowns. Worst design feature, though - there were two identical buttons right next to each other on the same side of the phone, and if a call came in, one of the buttons silenced the ring and the other answered the call on speakerphone.

      There were all too many times when my phone went off in a class and suddenly a voice emerged from my pocket crying "hello? are you there?"

      p.

  6. Microwave by Wizworm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a microwave that refuses to start cooking until it scrolls a 30 second message on a 1 line display.

    I SO want to get out my jtag programmer

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    1. Re:Microwave by daeg · · Score: 5, Funny

      A vending machine in my building does something similar. There are no "out of product" lights, there's only a single line display. If you select something that's out, it scrolls "NO PRODUCT TO DISPENSE - PLEASE TRY ANOTHER PRODUCT OR CALL 1-800-XXX-XXXX FOR REFILLS - NO PRODUCT TO DISPENSE" one letter at a time. During which time you cannot select another product, get your change back, or do anything at all. Pressing any buttons helpfully resets it to scroll from the start.

      Oy!

    2. Re:Microwave by u8i9o0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a GE above-the-stove microwave that not only won't let you cook until you set the date and time, but you can't even use the damn light on it until it's set.
      I was going to mention something similar.

      There's been a few blackouts lately and each time power comes back on, the display side-scrolls some text prompting to reset the time.

      I actually use the time display on the unit (and the scrolling text is distracting) so that gets done fairly quickly.

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?
      For one thing, it never displays the date.
      For another, it has no scheduling function and, even if it did, who keeps food in the microwave for longer than half a day (worst case: defrosting a turkey) anyway?

      As a user, entering "010101" completes that step in the time reset. But as a programmer and engineer, this actually bothers me.

      So, on the question of "What's the Worst Technical Feature You've Used?", I guess I 'use' the date feature to complete the reset protocol. But really, the date setting never actually gets used anywhere else so ... maybe I don't?

      Anyway, I'm sure I've seen worse features but I just had to mention the microwave.
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    3. Re:Microwave by Verteiron · · Score: 2, Funny

      It obviously needs the date so it can properly adjust leap seconds at the beginning of the year. And how else is it supposed to adjust for DST?

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    4. Re:Microwave by YourMotherCalled · · Score: 5, Funny

      But, who the hell thought it was important for a microwave to store the date?

      Didn't you read the manual? Chickens cook differently in odd years than they do in even years.
    5. Re:Microwave by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you have the same microwave that I do, it's an easy fix. Press the start button, then open and close the door quickly, then press the start button again. It will start immediately.

      They don't call it American enginerring (sic) for nothing. :-D

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    6. Re:Microwave by Vector7 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Does a clock which automatically adjust for DST really make my life simpler? Let's see..

      The clock on a "dumb" microwave doesn't understand daylight savings time, and I will have to adjust the time twice per year to correct it. A "smart" microwave will understand DST, so I won't have to correct it. Surely the "smart" device is more convenient, no?

      Not so fast..

      Let's say my power fails N times per year. Around here, N is probably around ten times. Every time my power fails, I have to reset the time on the microwave. On the "smart" microwave, I additionally have to re-enter the date.

      In the case of the dumb microwave, I have to enter one number for each reset, or N+2 numbers per year (the +2 being the two times per year I must adjust for DST).

      On the smart microwave, I don't have to adjust for DST, but every reset is twice as much work: I must enter 2 numbers per reset, or 2N numbers per year.

      N N+2 2N
      0 2 0
      1 3 2
      2 4 4
      3 5 6
      4 6 8
      5 7 10
      6 8 12

      Looking at it that way, the "smart" clock, being aware of the date, will only save me effort if my power goes out (or the microwave is unplugged, etc) less than twice per year. Doesn't seem very realistic to me.

    7. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can see it being useful if the oven has a shabbat mode (e.g. the light won't turn on, you can set a timer on Friday to start reheating (not cooking) something already in there on Saturday, etc.). But you say there's no schedule function, so this probably wouldn't cover yours.

      But it shouldn't require you to enter the time and date in order to use the oven. It should just be something you can enter if you want to. Also it ought to have a battery inside to avoid making you change it if power is lost.

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    8. Re:Microwave by incer · · Score: 2, Funny

      The hassle of resetting the date every time is widely compensated by that warm feeling you get when you notice that your microwave has adjusted the time on it's own...

    9. Re:Microwave by mph · · Score: 5, Funny

      The hassle of resetting the date every time is widely compensated by that warm feeling you get when you notice that your microwave has adjusted the time on it's own...
      Actually, that warm feeling is the door seals leaking.
    10. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, I'm serious. Plenty of electronic appliances do have a shabbat mode (though you might have to investigate a little to figure out how to toggle it). It isn't meant to remind people, but to let them have some use of their appliances without actually engaging in prohibited behavior. Without it, you either need simpler devices, or it's harder to set them up properly (e.g. having to tape down the switch for the fridge lamp every week), or you have to do without altogether. It's not that people's convictions mean little to them, it's that even though their use of the machines might be limited during that time, it's better to put them into a limited-use mode rather than to have to forgo them entirely.

      Look into it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

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    11. Re:Microwave by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 3, Informative

      You really aren't understanding the issue.

      People who are observant certainly remember what is and isn't allowed. The issue is that the device needs to be flexible. If a refrigerator always lights a light when the door is opened, and always turns the compressor on when the door is opened because it's designed to expect that cold air is escaping then, then an observant Jewish person cannot use that fridge at all one day a week. He won't be able to avoid doing prohibited things if he goes to get anything out of it. So he'll have to do without altogether.

      It seems like it'd be a hell of a lot easier to just have a switch that puts the fridge into an alternate mode where opening the door doesn't make the light come on, and doesn't trigger the compressor. Then the person can use the fridge. He knows what he wants the fridge to do -- the machine isn't meant to remind him. It's just meant to behave in the way he needs it to during that time.

      Letting things work on timers or other automatic systems that are not connected to human activity which occurs on the sabbath is fine. So heat in the winter is left on automatic. It doesn't need to be turned off. There's no prohibition about having a compressor running, or having it switch on or off. The prohibition is against being the one who switches it on or off.

      Anyway, this is actually pretty legalistic and rational, if quite conservative in interpretation. Well, at least if you're treating the law you're trying to follow as an absolute given. It is something that you can have a rational discussion about.

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  7. The desktop by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's a computer on my desk. Doesn't that make a metaphorical stack-overflow?

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    1. Re:The desktop by hey! · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, the worst thing about most PCs is the way the cup holder automatically retracts during a reboot.

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  8. LED by Fallingcow · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't know about the LED thing.

    I sometimes plug in my USB flash drive, which has a very bright blue LED on the end, just for the light.

  9. Any cell phone by JohnnyGTO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that uses Windows CE or Palm OS to run. My wifes company keeps insisting these peices of crap will make them all more efficient. All I know is the interfaces make dialing a simple call a nightmare and who wants a phone that needs its battery pulled when it locks up?

    Just last week here Verizone CE based phone continuously called me with the speaker phone on even though it was simply sitting on the cars center console! Government mandated spy feature hmmmmmm?

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    1. Re:Any cell phone by dingDaShan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Symbols without text for interfaces. Most people don't want to have to hover their mouse over every damn button just to figure out what it is. I don't care if it is an animation. I just want to know what the button does. Motorola and Samsung are horrible about this... making animated menus that take forever to navigate because of picture loading time. Favorite phone ever was a Sanyo 8200 that had distinct buttons for the most important features (camera, contacts, etc.) and allowed you to reprogram almost all of the buttons on the phone. Biggest pet peave: phones that have hard coded buttons to optional (only 19.95 a month) features that many people choose not to get. I hope Verizon is listening here, because I don't want 4.99 ring tone shortcut as the biggest button on my phone.

  10. Grab testicles and squeeze ring mode by spun · · Score: 2, Funny

    The sales person made it sound like a great feature. Never miss another call he said. Alerts you no matter how distracted you might be or how noisy the environment, he said. That may be true, but let me tell you, it is not nearly as useful and convenient as the sales people would have you believe.

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  11. PC Load Letter by labalicious · · Score: 5, Funny

    PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?

    1. Re:PC Load Letter by Nimey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Paper Cartridge Load Letter. You need to reload your Laserjet with letter-size paper, as opposed to PC LOAD A4, which would need A4 paper.

      You must have a /fancy/ printer, since it can display lower-case on its status display. Mine just says PC LOAD LETTER or 00 POWERSAVE.

      There, destroyed the joke for you.

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    2. Re:PC Load Letter by twilightzero · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most likely your rollers are bad, being that age. Also you probably have a screw or 2 loose inside that holds parts in the paper path together. They're actually relatively simple to repair, but the first thing I'd do is pull the rollers and clean them all with alcohol, then take the printer outside and blow it out with canned air/air compressor. That'll go a long way to making it reliable again. :)

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  12. Similar - beeping by oyenstikker · · Score: 3, Funny

    My Motorola v260 beeps loudly ever few minutes when the battery is low. I know when it starts beeping I have another 12 hours. There is no way to shut off the beeping.

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  13. Speaking of Microsoft... by mollog · · Score: 4, Informative

    Speaking of Microsoft (Clippy), back in the days of DOS 6.something (6.2 ?), when upgrading from a previous version of OS, if the Mircosoft installation program detected something besides a DOS partition, it would blithely inform you that it had detected something non-Mircosoft and it would take care of it for you!

    That was a disappointment.

    I lost a lot of work until I found the work-around.

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    1. Re:Speaking of Microsoft... by AaronW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I remember something like this on my father's computer. He was running NT 4.0 and had a program he wanted to run that required DOS. He had space on his hard drive and booted the DOS 6.2.x installation floppies. The floppies automatically detected his system and determined that the partition table was screwed up so it automatically repartitioned and formatted a new DOS partition... on top of the NTFS partition. Fortunately there was a tiny partition in front and I was able to rebuild the original partition table without any data loss since the DOS format only overwrote the very beginning of the partition.

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  14. Get this... by joto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Gore-Tex in running shoes. The water will get in at the top of the shoe (as it is only 3cm high), and never get out, since Gore-Tex is watertight. Besides, when running, my feet sweat, so water will end up inside the shoe even if it isn't wet outside.

    Handsfree with short cords. I still haven't found one that allows me to have my phone in my side pocket in my pants. And I still haven't found a bluetooth handsfree with traditional lanyard design.

    DVD-covers. They are larger than CDs for no good reason.

    Flatscreen TVs with grounded powerchords. Apparently they cause fires because the antenna is grounded too, only not to the same "ground".

    I think that's it for now

    1. Re:Get this... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      DVD-covers. They are larger than CDs for no good reason.

      Except that they fit perfectly, 2 to a spot, in media storage gear originally designed to hold VHS tapes.

      Remember the CD longboxes of the early and mid 1980s? Same thing. More than half of the packaging was unnecessary, but it allowed record stores to keep their CD inventory in the same big wooden bins they had been using for vinyl LPs previously.

    2. Re:Get this... by diamondsw · · Score: 2, Informative

      DVD-covers. They are larger than CDs for no good reason.
      Except that they fit perfectly, 2 to a spot, in media storage gear originally designed to hold VHS tapes.


      No, they don't. DVD cases are necessarily deeper, and for many VHS cabinets, won't work. Of course, they could have adopted the CD jewel case size and fit in the millions of CD storage units. Or they could have used a "slimline" design from the beginning.

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    3. Re:Get this... by Eccles · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many broken CD cases do you have? How many broken DVD cases? I like DVD cases a lot better, they're a lot less fragile.

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  15. Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Keith+Russell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first sub-brick-sized mobile phone was a Samsung flip phone. The "flip" section was designed to only cover the keypad, leaving the screen, menu nav keys, and send/end keys exposed at all times. It also had a key-guard that, by default, would automatically engage when the phone was closed. Clever, right? (Well, for its day, it was.)

    There was only one problem: To disengage the key-guard, you had to hold down the always-exposed menu select button! Worse, if the key-guard was disengaged while the phone was closed, it wouldn't turn on again until you opened and re-closed the phone.

    I don't know how many times I killed the key-guard as I leaned against a desk or something. Most of the time, I just ended up deep in some unexpected menu, but I recall at least two accidental phone calls initiated while the phone was in my pocket. Eventually, I got a case, and tucked some paper under the button area to make it harder to accidentally kill the key-guard.

    Samsung must have gotten the hint, because my next phone didn't have any exposed keys when the flip was closed.

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    1. Re:Buttons will be pressed, you know... by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My Motorola flip phone has a similar problem. It has two exposed buttons that can be used (while the phone is closed) to change your ring type (soft, loud, vibrate, silent). If your phone is not already set to silent, it gives a happy little chirp every time you change the type. So I'd be walking around during the day with my phone in my pocket with occasional random beeps caused by random button hits. I'd also miss calls occasionally when these hits happened to have switched my phone to silent. Very annoying, and there was no way I found to disable these keys.

      Oh, and another stupidity with these buttons: one button was normal and the other was a rocker button (i.e. up/down style button). To change your ring type, you had to hit first one of them, entering "change ring type" mode, and then use the other button to scroll through the options. In a sane world, you'd hit the normal button for the first step and then use the up/down feature of the rocker to scroll bi-directionally through the options. Nope. First you hit the rocker then you hit the plain button, meaning you could only move through the options in one direction. Missed the one you wanted? You have to go all the way through until it loops again. Argh...

  16. Digital vs. analog controls by dreddnott · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Definitely digital controls for almost anything. I can't stand them.

    If you're in your car and working the climate control, those controls are analog for a good reason. You can see what they're set to and change before you start the car. Stereo systems are another great example (quickly turning volume up/down, not having it reset all the time). Analog dials of all kinds also give you far better real-time feedback about a given signal (delta, etc.).

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    1. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by EvanED · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stereo systems are another great example (quickly turning volume up/down, not having it reset all the time)

      Having it reset seems like a poor design decision, but it isn't an essential aspect of digital volume.

      I will actually vote for digital volume controls because it means you can change the volume by remote, BUT only if they are the dial sort of volume control rather than vol up/down buttons. With a rotary encoder you get the benefits of digital (can control it in other ways besides moving the knob) with most of the benefit of analog (quick changes, better feel). About the only thing you don't get is absolute positioning, but the benefits compensate for that loss IMO.

      Of course, this doesn't make much sense in a car where you're almost always next to the volume control anyway. (I say "almost" because I know when I was younger I would go on trips with my parents and I'd want to control the volume from the back seat. Instead, my parents acted as a remote control -- "turn it up" *turns it up* "thanks", "turn it down" *turns it down* "thanks" -- until they got fed up with that. Might also be able to come up with other situations auto volume control is useful.)

    2. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by edbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I actually rather like the digital controls for the climate control in my car. My old car had a knob that I would have to turn one way for "warmer" and the opposite way for "cooler". The problem was that on longer trips it was impossible to set it properly. I would have to fiddle with it every 10 to 15 minutes. On my current car, I hardly ever even have to touch the climate control.

    3. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Vector7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I totally agree. My pet-button-peeves:

      Microwaves: I wish someone had the sense to build one with just a big knob to set the time, a small knob to set the power level (clicking to an off position if you just want to use the timer), and a big start/stop button. Put the timer on a logarithmic scale up to whatever the maximum sane length of time you might run a microwave for is (or use a continuous encoder with some acceleration programmed in the software), and read the value out on the display as you spin it.

      Monitors: It'd be handy on occasion to briefly adjust the brightness on my monitor, but the digital controls on all of them I've used lately are so stifling that I rarely bother. Just one little knob controlling brightness by default, or moving the cursor when in an onscreen menu, would be a hundredfold improvement. The monitors I use everyday are like minefields - sometimes the buttons aren't even labelled, and hitting the wrong one tends to make some terrible change in monitor state that takes five or ten seconds to undo, like the picture-in-picture on the bigger Dell screens, or the bizarre "highlight mode" on my old Samsung, which can't be toggled off, but instead requires digging through menus.

      Digital plus/minus buttons suck.

    4. Re:Digital vs. analog controls by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2, Informative

      Many high-end receivers have this feature. It's pretty nifty.

  17. Handspring World Clock by njchick · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Handspring Treo 180, there was a "World Clock" program that could display time in any timezone. It allowed to change my current timezone, but it would not change the time! So I move between timezones, I would need to update the timezone AND the time. Perhaps the software was not tested on real word travelers.

  18. The Right Mouse Button by thesupermikey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fuck Context Menus
    thats right, i said: "fuck context menus" /mac user

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    1. Re:The Right Mouse Button by statusbar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Navigating hierarchical menu items with a touch pad is my pet peeve. On any platform.

      It reminds me of the tilting marble maze game, or the old "Operation" game.

      Click on the "File" menu. Slide to "Open Recent ->", then the recent list pops up next to the file menu item. Now I have to slide the mouse pointer to the right, making sure that I do not stray above or below the line, otherwise the submenu disappears! Some applications have multiple levels of submenus! Why can't I just click on the menu item and have the submenu 'stick'?

      --jeffk++

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  19. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Speaking of Slashdot, you know when you browse at -1, nested mode in a story that has 400+ comments and it gets broken up into multiple pages? So you click on page 2, and there's the very same comment that started out page one. Then you click on page 3 and still the same damn comment starting the page? Same thing with page 4 or 5 or 6. Go to the HOF and click on a story with 4000 comments. You have to click to about page 25 before you see a comment that is not the first or second post from page 1.

    That's been a Slashdot bug for years. I even reported it like 10 times at source forge. It just gets closed with some snide comment, like "stop submitting this bug" or "this is not a bug". It's a bug, they could at least leave it open or mark it unfixable.

  20. Photo by Viking+Coder · · Score: 4, Funny

    My cell phone has a Camera button on the outside edge. Every now and then, I hear the fake shutter sound that lets me know my cell phone just took a picture of the inside of my pocket.

    I'm surprised no one else has mention the worst feature ever: DRM.

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    1. Re:Photo by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Funny

      Every now and then, I hear the fake shutter sound that lets me know my cell phone just took a picture of the inside of my pocket.
      So, you're in the cinema with the date of your dreams. You move towards her for a nice wet french kiss and suddenly *flash* the phone cam its flash light illuminates the insides of your jeans, showing a big boner covered with that old Winnie-the-Pooh underpants that you should've thrown away.
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  21. In Windows Vista by phalse+phace · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cancel or Allow? feature.

  22. Keyboard Error: by Kroc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Press F1 to Resume...

  23. Voicemail by rantingkitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my day (I'm in my late 20s) we had answering machines, and you know what? They were good enough. If I left the house and came home a few hours later, I could see if there was a message, and I knew it was left sometime within the past few hours. Barring a few really specific and improbable scenarios, I don't need to know the exact damn time it was left, nor do I need the other BS like mailboxes, saved messages folders, varying greetings, and all the other claptrap.

    Today? If you're the caller, you have to listen to the person's personal greeting, then suffer through another 20 seconds of "At the tone, please record your message. When finished, hang up, or press the star key for more options. To page this person, press nine. To listen to your personal horoscope..." Just shut the hell up and let me leave the message so I can get on with it, please?

    If you're receiving voicemail it's even worse. "You have...two...new messages and one...saved message. To listen to...new messages...press one. To listen--" One. "First...message...received...at...ten...fifty eight...AM." SHUT UP. JUST PLAY THE GORRAM MESSAGE WITHOUT THE PREAMBLE. Christ. Why the hell do I need to know the exact freaking minute someone called?

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    1. Re:Voicemail by crymeph0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know what to do about listening to your voicemails, but I know when leaving a message on most cell phone voicemails, you can just press 1 while the computer is droning on about 'leave a message at the tone or press 2 to enter a recursive menu with no hope of escape', even if it doesn't explicitly say you can press 1 to leave a message, and it will take you right to leaving a message.

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    2. Re:Voicemail by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny

      I had a friend who was remarkably good at mimicking the voice on my machine. She called and left a message that repeated the menu commands, and I was sitting there trying to figure out what was wrong with the damn thing.

  24. Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Interesting


    You know the single molecular layer stuff with infinite strength that is used to encapsulate CDs, or the thicker and even stronger stuff that small electronic devices like CF drives come in. I once broke a pair of scissors trying to cut one of those open. I am surprised some smart lawyer doesn't do a class action lawsuit against the manufacturers of that sort of packaging - there must be lost of people who have injured themselves trying open these packages.

    1. Re:Invulnerable Plastic Packaging by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://www.myopenx.com/home.htm

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  25. 1-800-XXX-XXXX by LunaticTippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just called that number to complain about the vending machine being out of taco pellets. They were very helpful and understanding. They also have a website

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  26. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's not an issue on the "new Discussion system", which just puts them all on one page anyway. Perhaps that's why they didn't bother fixing it recently (although it's been around since *long* before then).

    Yeah, it's also not an issue if you view in threaded mode too. But I want to see every single comment expanded when I read Slashdot. Threaded and the new system collapse them. Nested is the only way to have them all open (at least that I know of.)

    As far as submitting the bug, I think the last time I submitted it was around 2002 or 2003.

  27. Re:Windows Genuine Advantage or Microsoft Update? by toadlife · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are experiencing a bug with Microsoft Update, not WGA. It's been driving us crazy here at work for months now.

    Thankfully, Microsoft finally released a hotfix for it.

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  28. Mac OS X Finder by chord.wav · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why the hell would I want to mix folders and files, all ordered alphabetically??

    Not to mention the hockey puck mouse.

    Oh and hardware locked DVD drives.

  29. Acrobat by supabeast! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The entire user interface for Adobe Acrobat (the full version, not the free reader) is a nightmare. I have used thousands of GUI programs and never found anything that comes close to sucking so much. How a company that has produced so many other great interfaces managed to push that turd out confounds me every time I have to use that awful program.

  30. Print button on digital cameras by ChePibe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think anyone else has mentioned this so I will - why on earth put a print button on the camera? While this may make sense for some cameras and some users (cheap point and shooters especially), they're now popping up on more advanced DSLRs like the Canon 30D. Who buys a $1,000 DSLR and prints directly from the camera with no post processing and not even a look at the images? Worst of all, the button can't be remapped - you're stuck with a useless button. Why, why, why?

  31. "Operation currently prohibited by disc." by Torodung · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Says it all.

    But if you're a DVD exec, I want the buttons on my DVD player ('fast forward,' 'top menu') to work as they *should* without playing "Mother-may-I?" with the embedded OS. The menu should NEVER be restricted. That doesn't even make sense! What harm could my having instant access to your product's menu do to your bottom line?

    Also, on my DVD player I can't even turn the darned thing off reliably. Is it too much to ask that a power switch be an actual -power switch- and not a "send power down signal to the OS" switch? It's not like there's a hard drive in these things. There's no need for the absurd length of time it takes for most DVD players to go from a power off *command* to a power off *state*.

    Same goes for the tray eject button. Kill the motor and eject the disc already! I don't need "pretty" or "graceful," I need my disc back in less than five seconds.

    Worst "feature"... Ever.

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    1. Re:"Operation currently prohibited by disc." by revengebomber · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You could rewrite the firmware to do this. Or you could let it open the tray without stopping the rotation of the disk. That would make a nice frisbee launcher. That's exactly the reasoning behind spinning the disc down completely before ejecting it. Take one of those 1999-esque 52x CD drives - you know, the blisteringly loud, vibrational hazards? - and copy a disc to the hard drive. While it's copying, take a paper clip and shove on the manual eject. Proceed to watch helicopter effect.

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  32. My windshield washer tank by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yes. My windshield washer tank. It's a minor quibble, true, but a source of irritation nevertheless.

    It's a pretty big tank. One US gallon. Seems like a good idea, since I'm in the US, and windshield washer fluid is sold by the gallon. Just buy a gallon, fill the tank, done.

    Except that's not how it works. I've got a "washer fluid low" sensor and light on the dash. It comes on when there's about 1/10th of a gallon left. Plenty of time to put more in before running out.

    So I go to the store, buy a gallon, pour in (by now) 15/16ths of the bottle, and now the tank is full. And I'm left with a 1 gallon jug with 1 cup of fluid in it. So the almost empty jug has to sit in the garage or the trunk until I use a little fluid.

    Sure would have been nice to have a 1.1 gallon tank.

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    1. Re:My windshield washer tank by CBravo · · Score: 2, Funny

      In this category: I had a car, an Opel Astra. When I wanted to use the windshield wiper fluid it would first use the windshield wiper to scratch all the dirt into the window and then add some fluid to wipe all of it away. The window had a ton of scratches.

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  33. Re:Auto controls by compwizrd · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a design "feature", so that if someone's standing beside your car on the other side, they can't get into the car when you unlock it.

  34. Windows Explorer by Von+Helmet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why the heck can't it show me the size of directories in detail view? When I need to find out which program has suddenly eaten the remaining 12GB of hard disk it's tiresome to recurse through every directory, right clicking and checking the size.

  35. Text-stream interruptions by athloi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the world of user design foolishness, the worst by far are programs that interrupt you while typing with error windows, pop-ups or windows suddenly gaining focus. Internet Explorer, I am talking to you here, as well as every other program that pops up a brain-dead window demanding me to hit cancel or OK while I'm busy with more important things. It's like stopping the State of the Union address to change a lightbulb.

    In addition, any web page that doesn't follow sensible usability guidelines becomes a real pain in the neck. I read Jakob Nielsen to avoid most of these pitfalls when I code or design.

  36. VMWare by 26199 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I few 'doh' moments using VMWare.

    Why does it let Ctrl-Alt-Del through to the hosted machine? It pops up a box telling you that you probably didn't want to do that, since both the server and the host see the keypress; but it sends it anyway. Result: lock your windows PC and reboot your virtual Linux box. Well, fine, I can get around that. (Just stop Ctrl-Alt-Del from rebooting the Linux box).

    But why have Ctrl-R reboot the hosted machine? Ctrl-R which is used all the time when interacting with a shell. It's not exactly difficult to accidentally press Ctrl-R when the VM window has focus but the hosted machine itself does not. Gah.

    Sigh.

  37. Re:Motorola Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since I'm posting as an AC, I doubt this will get seen, but what the heck:

    This is not the fault of Motorola, it is the fault of your wireless company. Motorola allows the phone company to add any features to the phone that they want, and allows them to "lock" several features so they cannot be changed/deleted/etc. There is no way to get around this on the phone itself, however if you connect it to your computer there are several utilities that can fix the problem. Check out http://www.motomodders.net/ or http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Motorola for details on the fun stuff you can do with a computer link.

  38. Six things by ISurfTooMuch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Universal remotes. Great idea in theory, but they're often hard as hell to program, especially after you lose the programming guide. Even when they're programmed correctly, they still can't perform some important function that the original remote can, so you end up having to keep both of them around, which defeats the purpose of the universal remote.

    2. The meaningless icons on many electronic devices. Yeah, I know, they use them so they don't have to label the buttons in different languages for each country they sell the products in, but all these things seem to do is equally confuse everyone around the world as to what they mean.

    3. Convoluted shower controls. I swear, every time I take a shower in a hotel, I have to spend several minutes figuring out how the damn controls work. How about faucet manufacturers stop trying to be cute and just give me one knob for cold, one knob for hot, and a control to switch from bath to shower. I can take it from there.

    4. Wall warts. I know they serve a purpose, but do they really need to be on the end of the cord, where they take up three spots on the power strip? How about placing them in the middle of the cord, so I can use more than three plugs on my six-outlet strip.

    5. Windows XP's habit of constantly reminding you that the computer needs to be restarted after an update. Memo to XP: I told you five minutes ago that I didn't want to restart, and I haven't changed my mind. How about you shut the fuck up, and when I'm ready to restart, I'll get back to you.

    6. So-called water-saving toilets. Sure, they use less water, but they don't work worth a shit (pun intended). So, do you really save any water when you have to flush them twice because the first time wasn't entirely successful?

  39. Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by robbak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cars that bing at me are my pet annoyance.

    Let me explain. I have a Toyota Camry, 1993 vintage. No Bings. When you leave your lights on, the car _turns them off for you_ when you open the drivers door! Nice stuff, works very cleanly, and I only turn my headlights switch off occasionally.

    My parent's car (Ford Falcon) does bing. "Well turn the stupid things off yourself, then!" is my standard response.

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    1. Re:Those Bings, as a class, really annoy me. by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I own a 2003 Hyundai Accent, one of the cheapest cars available (third only to the Chevy Aveo and Kia Rio at the time). After having rented a Toyota Corolla while it was in the shop (for accident repair, not because anything broke), I became very thankful to have it because the supposedly "nicer" car drove me insane by trying to do stuff for me! It would turn on the dashboard light according to a sensor (making me think the headlights were on when they weren't), lock or unlock the doors on its own, etc. Especially annoying was that it would shift gears for itself, which meant it was often not in the gear I wanted (which is a problem for low-horsepower cars like that).

      There's a not-so-fine line between being "helpful" and trying to outsmart the user. And unfortunately, most cars to day are waaaay beyond it!

      My next car will probably be a manual-transmission Honda Insight, to which I will add a MIMA kit. I like knowing and controlling exactly what the car's doing, damnit!

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  40. SysRq by ISurfTooMuch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know that SysRq originally had a reason for existence, but its functionality was never used, and that was many years ago. If it hasn't been used by now, it won't be, so how about reassigning that key to do something useful. Just pick a use, since just about anything is better than its current use, which is absolutely nothing.

    1. Re:SysRq by Detritus · · Score: 2, Informative

      It does get used by IBM terminal emulators, which are still being used in many places.

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    2. Re:SysRq by knorthern+knight · · Score: 3, Informative

      In linux, read the file /usr/linux/src/Documentation/sysrq.txt and select the following kernel option while running "make menuconfig"

      Kernel hacking --->
      [*] Magic SysRq key

      If your system is locked up, you can at least hit {ALT-SysRq-s} to force a sync to save data before hitting the power button. This can avoid filesystem corruption. There are various commands that can be executed. Read the documentation file I mentioned above for more details.

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  41. Voicemail uses your minutes by visionsofmcskill · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a reason those messages are so laborious with unnecesary pauses and bad order of menu options etc...

    The time you spend with your answering machine is money to the Tel-Co. If you have Pay-As-You-Go it DEFINTLY counts as 10c/minute. Considering that they bill you for two minutes even if you hang up at 61 seconds, its a very easy way for them to make millions.

    No joke, the more time you spend on the phone going through the various menu's the more time gets racked up, even if your on a plan your still burning minutes just trying to leave a message on someone elses phone.

    Text messaging is almost worse in its cost vs value, a singel text message is generally 10-20c (sending party and recieving party), and generally requires at least one reply ... another 10-20c... so one excahnge = 4 minutes of talk time. 4 minutes on the phone could accomplish a lot more... and uses way more bandwidth, but once again the tel-co's have it setup so that the more laborious the process, the more it costs you.

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    1. Re:Voicemail uses your minutes by vitalyb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Funny thing is, you start paying for the call as soon as you get the "answering machine" talking to you. So basically if you waited too long for the person to answer and you didn't hang up, you will pay without any regard to whether you leave a message or not.

      In Israel the latest Minister of Communication decided to put a stop to it and forced the telecom companies to place a voice warning you that you are about to get the "answering machine" so you have time to hang up before you pay for the call.

      Now listen and be amazed. When you listen to automatic message for free, the companies don't joke around, it goes something like "youwillbetransferedtomessagingservicenow". The whole message is said in about 2 seconds top, I am 23 years old and I doubt I am always able to hang up on time. I really doubt older people can hang it up on time to be "excused" of payment.

  42. -1, Pedantic by 75th+Trombone · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's actually "Paper Cassette".

    Because I know you care. <3

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  43. Re:/. editors by Tatisimo · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a graphic designer, I often find my own business card too bothersome to make well, so I got for the simple stuff. My carpenter friend normally makes simplistic furniture for his house, choosing not to make wonderful works of art like he makes for other people. With that logic, I should assume that /. programmers would rather be modding NES pads to control their alarm clocks, running linux off a toaster, or reading comics than getting rid of minor annoyances like that one. And I like it that way.

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  44. Stupid Westpac ATMs by funkdancer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With picture of a stupid smiling biatch on ever screen, the last going much like "Please take your card, your money and your receipt IF YOU REQUESTED IT."

    My reaction, every time I see this, is an internal rage attack going like. "No goddammit ARGGGGH FFS I just said NO RECEIPT - You are a f*n computer program, FFS! ARRRRRRRRGH........ may your programmers rot in &@&%^T"

    If someone at Westpac or their ATM suppliers is reading this, please read the following and contact me for my contracting fees (I'll let you have it for a mere $10k, you'll more than make up for it in customer retention).

    IF (bReceiptRequested) {
        print "Please take your card and your money";
    }
    else {
        print "Please take your card, your money AND your receipt";
    }

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  45. Re:Silent cell phone feature by FSWKU · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You should try mine, then. The instant I plug it in, the damned thing goes from whatever setting it was on, to "Loud". Now, as I usually charge my phone at night, this is a BAD thing. Really, Motorola, why can't the damned thing just keep whatever volume setting it was currently at? My old Nokia never had this problem. Plug in the power cable, and the only change was the battery meter would animate to show me it was charging...

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  46. Blackberry 8700c by mehtajr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Blackberry OS has a lovely feature that tells you when the battery is too low to attempt to make a phone call-- but yet, it can power the backlight, let me read email I've already received, etc. for hours beyond that point.

    I discovered this "feature" at 3 AM, on the side of I-55 in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi, sitting in a rental car with a flat tire.

    Hey guys, when I buy a phone, I want it to be to expend its last bit of battery power WHILE MAKING A PHONE CALL.

  47. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Informative

    Slide the slider on the left to make them all expanded. What's the problem?

    Then it shows all the comments on one page. I just tried that for a story with 3500 comments and it crashed my browser (firefox 2.0) and nearly locked up X. It worked OK in windows (also firefox 2.0), but still all the comments are on one page. So the new system only allows you to see them all on one page expanded or not to some degree. I've tried the new system before. I'll stick with the old system. At least I know its quirks/bugs/crap design and it has never crashed my browser.

  48. Open button on a DVD player remote by hoppo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is absolutely pointless to be able to eject a DVD from across the room. You still have to get up and walk over to the device. Unless you are strong with the Force. Then you wouldn't need the remote for anything.

    1. Re:Open button on a DVD player remote by palndrumm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually I really like having the eject button on the remote, especially since most DVD players these days seem to take forever to spit the disc out anyway. With the button only on the player, you're left standing there in front it staring blankly at the 'ejecting' screen on the TV for what seems like 10 minutes waiting for the disc to finally find its way out. If the button's on the remote you can press it and the player can do all its dicking around while you untangle yourself from the couch/girlfriend/cat/etc, find the DVD case, and then walk across the room to grab the disc as it pops out.

  49. "Safety Feature" by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Funny

    My boss has a Mercedes SUV that will not start the engine if the engine computer detects that any of the three brake light bulbs have burned out. Now, there's a good idea -- when you burn out a brake light, you can't even drive to the store to buy a replacement.

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    1. Re:"Safety Feature" by Smight · · Score: 2, Funny

      That sounds especially useful in the case where a roving gang has smashed in your tail lights and is currently surrounding you. Mercedes knows you shouldn't just avoid conflict, but you should talk your problems out and be sure you are calm and clear-headed before you get on the road.

      If Mad Max had driven a Mercedes, the post-apocalyptic future of Australia would have been a much happier place.

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  50. Fuse by dino213b · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fuse: a $3 part protecting a $0.01 piece of electronics.

  51. A few random ones by noidentity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here are a few I can remember:

    - Cordless phone with backlit display. When you press a button, the display lights for several seconds. So, when press end to hang up, the display lights for several seconds, making you think the phone is still on. My dad always got confused by this, and rightly so. The display even lights when you press an ignored button while the phone is off. "Hey, lighted display even though I'm off!"

    - Electronic version of the De Longhi portable oil-filled space heater. Terrible user-interface with hard-to-press buttons and a button layout that seems more guided by aesthetics than logical arrangement. Lost power to the thing, even for just a second? No heat for you until you re-program it. Give me an electro-mechanical thermostat and power switch any day over this electronic crap.

    - DVD player often refusing to respond to my commands. Oh, wait, that's intentional.

    - Just to contrast, once I got a small programmable electronic outlet timer at a garage sale and had the thing figured out in just a few minutes without a manual. Somehow they managed to pack in something like 14 independent program slots, each able to turn on and off at set times either daily, weekdays only, weekends only, particular day only (separate days for on and off). It only had around 7 buttons (no numeric keypad), yet was logical.

  52. Even worse on servers ... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't like brands, i prefer to build clones myself, even for servers.

    For some crappy services, like a small router, or some backup DNS/Mailserver you just pick some cheap motherboard, and most tend to NOT have an option to just boot even when no keyboard is plugged.
    Now it doesn't happend that often, but I used to fix this by using a crafted keyboard DIN or mini-DIN conector with no actual cable or keyboard attached to it.

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  53. cell phone that dials 911 for you by adrianmonk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A while back, I went to work at a new place, and they gave me a Samsung cell phone. I carried it around in my pocket. One day it rang. I answered, and the person on the other end wanted to know if everything was OK. I was confused and asked them who they were. Turns out they were the 911 (emergency services) operator, and they claimed I'd called them and hung up. I told them I certainly didn't do it on purpose, that I was OK, and that I was sorry for disturbing them.

    Then the same thing happened a few more times, and there were other occasions on which I took the phone out of my pocket and saw a display asking me to confirm whether I wanted to dial 911.

    After several calls to the carrier, I talked to someone who tracked down the problem. Seems that Samsung had put in a feature where if you hold down the "9" button for several seconds, it dials 911. And in their infinite wisdom, they were concerned about what might happen if you had an emergency while key lock was on. So they made it so holding down "9" dials 911 even while key lock is on.

    Thanks, Samsung. I love "features" that might get me fined or imprisoned when someone concludes I'm making repeated prank calls to 911.

  54. Sanyo was (is?) worse by Solandri · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The non-flip Sanyo phones had a keyguard (as all non-flip phones do). However, someone at Sanyo decided that it would be bad if there was an emergency and the person who picked up the phone did not know how to disable the keyguard (maybe they're a kid or non-English speaker). They wouldn't be able to dial 911 on the phone because the keyguard would prevent them from dialing. So they thoughtfully allowed you to dial 911 through the keyguard.

    Of course this meant that as the phone bounced around in your pocket or purse, it would hit random buttons. All of these would be blocked until a 9 was pressed. It would bounce around some more until a 1 was pressed. And so on for the final 1 and 'talk'. So basically the keyguard assured that pressing random keys would always result in a 911 call.

  55. Numeric keypads on cell phones vs keyboards by The_Sledge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is one of life's great mysteries, I guess. Why on earth are the 1-9 keys on my numeric keypad be completely the flip of the keypad on my telephone?

    The weird part is, I don't know about others, but it has become second nature when using either keypad, without looking, I still know where the digits are.

    (yet another one of life's great mysteries)

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  56. eject the freakin cd by darkwhite · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The default Linux behavior of locking the CD tray and refusing to eject when I press a button. On some devices, the lock stays in place even after a soft reboot, forcing a power cycle.

    I don't give a damn if the FS driver will throw a hissy fit or the system will panic. It's read-only media, you'll eject it when I press the button or I'll eject it for you with a paperclip and get the sudden urge to crash some developers' skulls.

    I honestly can't name a single design decision in a modern Linux system that is worse than that misfeature.

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  57. Re:/. editors by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not here to read -1 comments....no one gets through to my screen (except some random zoo.pl friends) without an ACTUAL HUMAN deciding their content is worthy of my eyes.

    That might work for you. But it's my opinion that there is pervasive group think amongst the moderators and thus I choose to make all determinations myself. Once Slashdot implemented this feature, that was I really needed to brush off what moderators think. Besides, there are some real gems at -1 if you have a broad sense of humor and an open mind. If your humor is limited to Monty Python, Office Space, overlords, "we have always been at war with Eurasia" and DVD encryption key jokes then yes, moderation is probably for you. On the same note, if you toe the copyright/ip/patent line, moderation is probably also for you. I'd argue that you are going to miss some, no - many valid and interesting arguments and opinions. Well, I think they are worth consideration and thought anyway. You, of course, are free to let the moderators tell you what opinions are worth your time.

    As to your +3, nested oldest first comment: Consider this - browsing that way is going to show you many responses to comments that are less than +3. What's the point in reading a +3 response to a comment that wasn't up to your beloved moderator's standards? Where's the context? Does it even address the original comment or is it just spewing slashbot talking points? How would you ever know if you set your "standards" so high? An once again, why even bother?

  58. Re:German Engineering by wllf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Some Volvo's have the same feature. Were I worked a couple of years ago, the manager went over to get his brand new Volvo. The salesman (also a manager) was showing all the nice features of the car. They were admiring the nice exterior of the car when suddenly there was a "click" and the doors locked. Too bad the keys were on the front seat and the spare keys in the dashboard compartment. I don't know exactly what they had to do to get into the car, but he returned without his shiny new car.

    Also fun are the keyless cars (Renault has them here in Europe). You get a credit card size "key" which on some models just has to be near the car to be able to start it. A friend of mine was testing a couple of Renaults for a magazine which had this feature. Accidentally he switched keys with another person. They both were able to start because they were parked close together and the range of the "keys" was large enough. Sometime later my friend had to stop while the other person drove on. After stopping the engine and trying to restart it he discovered that he had the wrong key. He quickly phoned the other person and told him NOT to switch off the engine and drive back. Later models have a warning system where the car starts to beep and shout that the key is out of range. Long live progress :)

  59. Re:hotkey hell by SharpFang · · Score: 2


    1) There's a power-off key on some Windows keyboards.
                Hit it by accident and it shuts off the machine,
                no confirmation or anything - just powers down!

    A friend had a keyboard with non-standard layout.
    There was no gap between PrtScr/ScrollLock/Pause and Ins/Home/PgUp - that block was moved one row up. The room of "Delete/End/PgDn" was occupied by the power buttons. "Power" was in place of "Delete". I switched the computer off three times in some 15 minutes before I learned not to use Delete.

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  60. BMW Security by Evets · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So a few years ago, I bought a BMW 530. My wife took it to the mall for the first time with my daughter who was about 6 months old. Upon returning to the car, she put my daughter in her car seat, and in doing so tossed the keys into the driver seat. She closed the door, walked around, and lo and behold, the BMW had locked itself up before she got to the drivers door.

    The AAA locksmith shows up some time later, my daughter stuck inside a VERY hot automobile. They have no idea how to get in. So they used one of those airbag things to split open the driver door to stick a coat hanger or something inside the car to get it unlocked.

    I have to call the dealership and ask where the unlock button is.

    After I find out where it is and relay that to my now very panicked wife who fills in the locksmith, we come to find out that the car has detected a break-in and disabled the unlock button.

    All the while we are yelling at them to just take a hammer to the window to break in. Apparently the damn car has some sort of unbreakable glass.

    I finally get through to BMW's version of on-star and guess what - they can't unlock the car via satelite. As it turns out, the only thing BMW on-star is good for is asking for driving directions (there's a GPS in the car) and reserving movie tickets.

    In the end, after consulting with the dealer again, I have to tell the now on-scene fire department that they CAN break the glass on the short split section of the passenger side rear window - apparently a feature designed just for these situations. Of course, that's exactly where my daughter is sitting, but thank goodness we had window shades that were drawn up.

    So my wife brings my 1 day old car home that I haven't driven yet and it takes 6 weeks to get a new window. Of course, when the 6 weeks comes up and I discover they haven't ordered the window yet, they are all of a sudden in abundance and it only takes 24 hours.

    So... pointless/counter-productive/bizarre features?
    1) auto-locking doors
    2) overly extravagent security
    3) satellite communications link for directions in a car with a GPS
    4) a window designed to be broken

    Of course I haven't even mentioned
    5) voice command (more distracting than buttons)
    6) GPS Volume button is the radio button. You have to adjust the volume WHILE the GPS lady is giving you directions.
    7) A radio that mysteriously reboots.
    8) An integrated car management system that disables radio, air conditioning, and navigation when it doesn't boot properly.
    9) A flat tire sensor that has presented at least a dozen false alarms and has never actually detected a flat tire.

    1. Re:BMW Security by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did they not have something called iDrive? a huge wheel between the passenger and driver' seat that controlled everything and you have to go through menus about trip odometer and oil change and GPS to change the damn radio station? Or am I confusing BMW with some other model/make?

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  61. Re:Great Zombie ... Firefox by Yer+Mom · · Score: 2, Informative

    How 'bout this... I'm here reading about all these 'features', and another page I was on spawned a pop-up, which due to the settings I have opened in a new tab. The pop-up resizes my Firefox window, and disabled every function of the browser except creating and closing empty tabs, and scrolling (but only by the little knob thing on the scrollbar, the up-down buttons didn't work, nor the keyboard shortcuts)

    Go to about:config. Type "dom" into the search box. You can disable all that resizing and button-removing guff from there.

    Not so good if there are times when you want those features on, of course...

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  62. Re:Motorola Phone by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not the fault of Motorola, it is the fault of your wireless company. Motorola allows the phone company to add any features to the phone that they want, and allows them to "lock" several features so they cannot be changed/deleted/etc.

    So, in other words, it is the fault of Motorola?

  63. Re:Where's my god damned "No to all"? by DruggedBunny · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not documented anywhere obvious, but hold Shift while clicking No -- this works as "No to All" on those dialogs. I think my brother found this by accident one day.