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Second-gen iPhone Confirmed?
gadgetopia writes "ITWire is reporting that the Taiwanese manufacturer Quanta has seemingly confirmed a second generation of the Apple iPhone. Another report referenced by the article suggests the new model could come with a different case design. 'Quanta and Apple already enjoy a strong relationship, with Quanta building both MacBooks and iPods for Apple to sell worldwide, although Foxconn (Hon Hai Precision Industry) is reported to be building the first batch of iPhones due to arrive in the US market by the end of June. Reports suggest Quanta has received an order for 5 million iPhones which are to be shipped in September ... Presumably this could entail a 3G or even 3.5G HSDPA iPhone for European markets due to get the iPhone by the end of the year, or even the addition of more memory - imagine a 16Gb or even 32Gb iPhone, unlikely though those will be this year mainly due to the high cost of 16 or 32Gb of flash memory.'"
Rather than a very expensive, albeit, nice phone can we please put out the OS we were origionally expecting this quarter..
32Gb is only 4GB. I think you meant 32GB.
And as an alternative there is OpenMoko which, of course, runs Linux and is complete open.
Along with the speculation in the article, I have to simply speculate that the contract is for phones to be sold in another market, such as Europe. Or it could be a minor revision boost to coincide with new iPod revisions or some other flash-based announcement that Apple may make. From a business perspective, I have to think it is the former. I'm still interested to see the first revision of the iPhone on store shelves before I start worrying about a second revision.
If they offered a 32GB iPhone, the price would have to be subsidized like most other cell phones in the US. NOt that Apple would ever allow that, but it might get more people willing to buy the phone and then pay extra for content packages.
All I want to know is when the iPhone is coming to Canada...
Some have speculated that this is in fact a widescreen iPod, rather than a second revision of the iPhone (for a non-USA market?)
I would love a 3G iPhone. Videocalling and not the dog slow GPRS datatransfers (In denmark where I come from EDGE isn't really used.)
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Rather than more memory (aren't there iPods with that already?) how about they at least confirm that the current iPhone has voice dialing or make darn sure they put it into the next release. I can only imagine the number of idiots trying to press "buttons" on their flat touch screen while driving. (if they've confirmed it then nevermind, and that's good to hear)
A longer-lasting battery is also a MUST if you want to use the sucker as *both* a media player/comp00tar and a phone. Want to watch a movie? Sure, but then you're out of a phone, buddy. Not so sure that's a great tradeoff. In-flight entertainment on long trips and something to call a buddy to pick you up from the airport? Better luck next time ^^
So, things to look forward to in the next release perhaps.
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Oooo look shiny. Sorry, that's an automatic reaction to iPhone stories.
I think it means second production run, but probably for Europe. It will have to pass CE certification for Europe and I would guess that the European partners have probably pointed out that 3G would be a good idea as we have more of that than wifi at the moment.
Driving a display that's good enough to view movies on and decoding video at the same time draw quite a bit more juice than decoding audio/still image files. Still, I am hoping they can get the 1 day in your range, otherwise it's useless for anyone who travels at all.
So, Apple's going to release a product which was officially announced with tremendous fanfare 5 months before release, and now supposedly they're going to release the second rev 3 months after the release? And the 2nd rev order has already been placed with the manufacturer, even though the first rev won't be released for another month still? And it has a different case design (boy, that would piss off the accessories manufacturers)?
There are so many things wrong with this "story" I don't know where to begin. I think one of two things is happening here:
1) As someone above mentioned, this is a widescreen iPod (which has been rumored in the past to be released in September), not a new iPhone. Remember, both revisions of the Nano were announced in September as well. Or more likely,
2) There is absolutely nothing to this rumor at all.
Do we think any mags/sites have actually got their hands on review models yet? I mean its only a month to go so time to crank up the old hype machine.
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The reports seem to suggest that the phone will be out in Sept. That's 3 months after the iPhone. I doubt it's really a second gen. Most likely it will be a different casing. Kinda like the iPod Shuffle 2G. It was launched in time for Christmas. By February, there was one additional color. Or the iPod nano which didn't have Product Red(tm) model in the beginning and not in a 8GB model.
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I'm not implying that Apple would face similar fate. I'm just wondering, why these kind of news does not damage the company nowadays like in the "good" old days.
I was in a Cingular store on Friday, talking with the store manager about the iPhone and number portability. He mentioned that a second version of the phone would be out for Christmas of this year. The later version is supposed to be 3G capable. Since Cingular doesn't have the 3G coverage all in place just yet for all cities, I am not too concerned about it. My nephew will get the first gen hand-me-down when the 3G one actually makes it to market.
A phone is much better. No one knows what os you run but everyone will see my iPhone.
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Apple already announced the iPhone would ship in Europe in January 2008. Seems like these would be the European iPhones.
I love the iPhone news; in fact, I've watched the keynote more than I care to admit... but speculation about the _next_ generation of the phone before the first has been released is ridiculous. It has no place on the front page--of course the next generation will have more memory, a different feature set, blah blah... but holy crap let's wait until the first generation IS RELEASED before posting articles like this.
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And as an alternative there is OpenMoko which, of course, runs Linux and is incomplete, although it is open source, so you can help finish it.
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"Second-gen iPhone Confirmed?"
How can you use 'confirmed' with a question mark? It's either confirmed or it's a rumour. The word 'confirmed' is not intended to be ambiguous. In this case, it is definitely not confirmed.
AT&T is deploying their 3G network, but you can expect the iPhone to support it when it's widely available, as EDGE Is today. That might be a pretty long wait. Right now, in those few placees you can get 3G in the U.S., you're probably already in or near a "hot spot" with 802.11 access. AT&T does have serious competition since the CDMA carriers in the U.S. have been investing heavily, so perhaps the wait for the current generation of cell phone network technology won't be as long as it historically has been. Verizon has 2Mb service just about anywhere you can get a cell phone signal these days. T-Mobile and AT&T rolled out EDGE, what, about a year ago? Roughly the same time as Verizon was rolling out 2Mb. The GSM carriers are pretty far behind.
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I plan to test the iPhone by handing the iPhone to my Mom and asking her to call my brother. I suspect that she'll be able to do it, with no training. If I'm right, then the iPhone will be quite popular. Apple will wind up selling their "smart phone" to people who would never buy any of the "smart phones" on the market today, because they are too difficult to use.
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Yes, because the 18fingered mutants that inhabit Europe need a completely different interface which will take months to design and deploy.
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I (and lots of other people) think it's more likely they'll be adding support for 3G networks, which give us Europeans near broadband speeds just about anywhere, unlike wifi which is taking off but only slowly (largely because the phone networks would rather we all spent the money on their networks).
It'll also need multi-lingual support, since we don't all speak English.
How about a beowulf cluster of them! Oh, and they have 128GB instead of 32GB! Or even 512GB! Or a petabyte!!!!!
Man, my imagination is on fire today.
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Yes, catch up. Features are irrelevant when the User Interfaces to use them suck so much that mostly no one uses them. How many owners of Treos, Blackberrys and WM devices use even 40% of the features of their phones? The iPhone's breakthrough UI will enable regular folks to use MORE of their device then they could with other smartphones. So yes, in that regard which just so happens to be the MOST IMPORTANT ONE, the others will all collectively and individually be playing 'catch up'.
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And as an alternative there is OpenMoko which, of course, runs Linux and unlike the iPhone can run user developed software, so you can write the next killer app for it instead of being led by the short hairs by Apple.
Trying to launch the iPhone in Europe would require considerably more legal and regulatory paperwork.
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Maybe it is a Canadian phone, maybe it is a European phone, maybe it is just an iPod. What is isn't is a next-gen US iPhone.
How can you design a 2nd generation model when there is zero consumer feedback to base it on?! Apple has always partially relied on consumers' criticism to initiate a design iteration, and justly so. Especially for a market that Apple is newly entering - does the phone capture good signal in different environments, is the price point good, do batteries blow up, is there something blatantly simple that they missed - these only come out after widespread usage (not intra-company circulation). It could be that the first design had flaws that Apple already noticed but are going ahead with it in order to keep the June date - that doesn't undermine the logic of waiting for feedback of customers as well before placing an order with Quanta.
This is most definitely not a II gen iPhone. I would go with this being either a European/3G version or a widescreen iPod, assuming that news is true and not another fake email.
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Is the Osbou-- um, I mean -- iPhone one even out yet?
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It's about time! The picture I have of the first-gen unit has been great, but it has its limitations and the workarounds are cumbersome. I've been looking forward to a picture of a revised unit since the initial iPhone was announced; Apple's second-gen models are always more reliable than the initial ones.
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First iPod came out, ignored it, second, third, nano, shuffle, 5G... and the rest of their apple crap...
I then purchased an ipod last year at 20 GB for 100 bucks, works fine. It's 3rd gen with the click wheel and at about 1/3 the price plus it works PERFECTLY.
iPhone? I think I'm going to be waiting again until the 4th generation and all the other versions come out to pick up a cheap one. Apple does make great products but all these generations and additions just make the intelligent consumer have to wait until the design and feature set gets locked down.
I also have a Nokia E61, too. Great hardware; the software and interfaces, well, not so much. The damned thing was put together by a graphics designer, not an interface designer, and is the opposite of intuitive.
To start out with, it is shameful that Nokia couldn't ship a product with POP/IMAP client that actually works. I mean, it isn't like there aren't many reference products out there, many with their code available for perusal. They had to have known that the mail app was broken, unless they did no beta/user testing (and I'm guessing that they didn't).
Some UI/interface things that are whacked about it - cut and paste works in some apps, not in others (all Nokia supplied). It can take three clicks/submenus to make a call in some contexts. You can have multiple phone listings per contact, but only access one of them via voice dial (the voice rec is pretty good - would it have been so hard to allow for "John Doe Home, John Doe Mobile, John Doe Work" instead of just "John Doe"?).
The keyboard-unlock keys are almost impossible to do one-handed. All networked apps are limited to port numbers of three digits or less because they only give you space to type three digits. Addresses are in the tiniest font possible, and it is not adjustable.
The File Manager is located in "Office". Everything else related to files and/or apps are located in "Tools". Some apps are in the root of the UI (clock), some are not. There almost no navigation for the photo viewing stuff - all your files in one big pile. I could go on; this thing never saw user testing. Why? It has to Nokia's corporate culture - no small(er) company would release something so poorly thought out. Hell, not even MS or GM would release something so poorly thought out.
I expect that Apple is going to give Nokia a very bad couple of years, and very well could do to them what MS did to Palm in the PDA space.
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not in a million years would i sign up with them again. looks indisputably great, but even best interface in the world won't make me switch back from Verizon.
and a 2 year exclusive to at&t, by some accounts? it would have to be a hefty subsidy that at&t may/may not offer to make up for lost sales due to the network exclusivity.
and if there is no subsidy, why not just offer the phone a la carte (at the apple store, best buy, etc) and the end user can just sign up with whichever CDMA or GSM networks? the end of stupid service contracts and mobile providers holding all the cards? i'm disappointed in apple for not using its clout to benefit the consumer (with the added incentive that they probably would sell more iphones). flame away.
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C'mon, now, let's wait and see what the device is actually like when it ships. All that's really needed is a settable reserve level after which iPod functionality is unavailable... so you still have the juice to make some calls. Gauging remaining battery life may not be an exact science, but there's no reason that such a scheme couldn't work to keep people from winding up without a phone.
Surely someone at Apple would have thought of this... and if not I hereby release the idea into the public domain!
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- cheap
- or just three buttons: operator, tow, and 911
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No; the product is confirmed when Apple announce it.
It's confirmed because some partner might possibly maybe has designs on building such a device (especially when they work with other companies too).
And as an alteran there is OmaDesala which, of course, runs AncientOS and unlike the iPhone can help you ascend.
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This is a joke, right? Of course they're making a second generation. It's like saying that rumors are confirmed that there will be a newer version of the Linux kernel. Umm... ya think?
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The news article says: "but also may have received the order"
Since when does "may" mean it's confirmed? That's pretty vague.
I can do that too. I "may" be a millionaire in 5 years. I "may" get hit by lightning today.
News outlets love grabbing at straws, don't they.
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Mac Micro would have been better at this point.
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"never as successful in the marketplace as Apple had hoped" (from your link) does not equal "market failure." The Newton didn't fail. It was spun off into a wholly owned, proftiable subsidiary. The Newton was killed, by Steve Jobs, when he came back to the company. The fact that the Newton was Scully's baby might have something to do with that.
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will have their third or fourth generations out
I will probably be going for the Neo1673 and OpenMoko platform:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page