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Fallout 3 Trailer Available Online
Voodoo Extreme and 1up are both hosting the long anticipated Fallout 3 Trailer. Looks like we'll be seeing the game in stores Fall of 2008. Says Bethesda's Pete Hines, Bethesda's PR point man: "Yes, that's in-engine (in-engine means it's done with game assets in our rendering engine, but isn't done real-time. If it was done in real-time, that'd be gameplay footage. This isn't something, for example, that was sent to some house [e.g. Blue Studios] so they could build assets and render it out, and create something for us to release [e.g. Dawn of War 40K intro cinematic]). Yes, that's The Ink Spots singing "I Don't Want to Set the World On Fire" Yes, that's Ron Perlman [voiceover man extraordinaire of Fallout 1 and 2]." The official site doesn't have a lot more in the way of detail than that.
Kinda makes me wish I hadn't sold my copies of Fallout 1 and 2.. anyone else ever get 'gamesick'? :)
...the in-game currency is bottle caps. Awesome trailer!
I am on the road crew. This is my stop sign.
Oh man, I've been waiting for this for years
I'm just not into those damn MMORPGs so it has been a bad few years for me. However, with the announcement of Starcraft 2 and now Fallout 3 being imminent, I'm quite excited.
Am I the only person in the world who likes single player games anymore? Seriously all I hear about are MMO games.
"It's a tarp!" -- Dyslexic Admiral Ackbar
I know it's way to early to throw out such phrases... but Fallout is such a break from the normal video game. I was completely drawn in by the first and second one... and cannot wait for another =)
The old-timey tube radio that starts up playing the song in the beginning has a brand name of "Radiation King" on the front of it.
:)
I don't know if this was an actual brand name but it's something that Abe Simpson calls his old TV with the burnt in shadow of Homer sitting crosslegged in front of it.
I really appreciate tiny details like that on games
You know, I didn't remember that from Fallout 1 ,but somehow the idea of bottle caps being currency post-war is very ... Warming.
(I just looked it up... I actually didn't like Fallout at the time, since it was supposed to be the sequel to my then-favorite game, Wasteland, and was nothing like it.)
It's the little things in a game that really make it memorable, and I hope they spend the time for all those little touches.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
"War...War never changes." Thank God neither does Ron Perlman's voice.
I like single player games too, but I have to admit I enjoy MMORPGS because there is so much to explore, which I can do solo :)
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"Am I the only person in the world who likes single player games anymore?"
Yes/no. I'd prefer more single *or* multi-player co-op RPGs, along the lines of Diablo 2 or the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance stuff on the PS2. My wife and I would never have even begun on WoW if we'd had a new D2 to play.
VitrosChemistryAnaly, I strongly suggest you look into Bioshock, it's a first person RPG/Shooter/Survival horror hybrid by much of the team that did System Shock (which you should also look into if you haven't played them). I have very high hopes for this game (shipping August this year on PC/XBOX360) on the basis of the history of the team. I really hope they can get some success this time, they really deserve it. System Shock 2 got killed by the release of the original Half-Life. The original by the release of Doom II. The same company also created the Thief series. Also, I don't work for them, I'm just a fan.
Awesome.
And I hope they have caved into restricting the player in what they can or cannot do for moral choices.
One of the big sticking points with me is that the FO series allowed you to be good or evil. It gave you total freedom and even some in between.
But this entailed of course stealing from anyone, doing drugs, killing children, having sex with prostitutes, being a porn star, and basically killing everything that moves, but you would have some repreccusions such as encounters with bounty hunters or various other groups who were mad at you.
But at the same time you could also be a saint or follow the path of good.
Personally, I joined the brother hood and spent my time being a vigilante cleansing places like New Reno with healthy dose of burst fire.
And it still allowed you to beat the game without firing a single shot.
Without the freedom to be truly evil or good... It won't be Fallout.
That is what I am worried about.
"I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
-Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
"I Don't Want to Set the World On Fire" by The Ink Spots. It was supposed to be a title track for Fallout 1, but Black Isle couldn't get the license.
Long long ago I was looking for information about sequel for TES: Daggerfall. There was a site about Morrowind with some "Project frozen..." and something like that. When project was reanimated and then completed it became one of best CRPGs. Now Fallout 3...
And I hope they have caved into restricting the player in what they can or cannot do for moral choices.
Whooops! I meant I hope they have not caved into restricting the player in what they can or cannot do for moral choices...
"I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
-Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
No, me to. I enjoy not having to deal with people sometimes. I'm somehow always reminded that I'm connected to the Internet, and therefore, at the mercy of the whims of others, when playing an MMORPG. Single player games allow me to fall into that private, inner world if you will, rather like reading a good book. STALKER really reminded me of fallout. If it's like STALKER except more refined and with a better, conical plot, I'll be super happy.
Fallout wasn't a sequel to Wasteland. It has often been referred to as a "Spiritual Successor", though.
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Yes I am one of those angry and unreasonable Fallout fans. Yes, I cried a little at the trailer. I can honestly say that this trailer has given me a shred of hope that Fallout 3 might just turn out alright.
IIRC, the original idea is they *wanted* to do a Wasteland sequel but secure the rights to Wasteland. So... they designed Fallout instead with a few references to Wasteland. Nonetheless, you are correct, it is a spiritual successor to the game.
Great, yet another hype video that shows the "engine" - whatever that means. Let's see some gameplay! Given the lovely engine that they have, I guess that we won't have the isometric view as per Fallout 1 & 2 - or will we?
Fallout had some nice graphics for its time, but it was the gameplay, story, and amazing art direction that made it a standout. This preview shows nothing, other than a 3D engine that could be swapped out for ID's or Epic's - hell, it could be Duke Nukem reborn for all we know. Yeah, it looks cool, but there is really nothing here.
Yawn.
(could NOT secure the rights, sorry!)
A conical plot? What is that supposed to be?
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Ummm, what makes you think it's going to be first person? The trailer didn't show any gameplay footage. I don't think they'll make Fallout first person. In Bethesda's other games, first person made sense. Not to defend them, Bethesda's made a lot of bad decisions in the past, but let's not jump the gun until we actually have any evidence.
Multiplayer Gaming (defined): Sitting around, discussing single-player games with my friends, at the bar.
There is something wrong with playing single player in an mmo but I understand what you mean. The quest and atmosphere is usually better in a single player game though as they can affect the whole storyline. The problem with mmo is that the world feel so static. They need to keep the same content so that everyone can enjoy it and not only 1 person.
They were developed by the same company, so I doubt that was the problem
Agreed! I haven't personally owned a computer for about three years, but with Starcraft 2 coming and now Fallout 3... I think I'll cave in and get one.
"I'm still concerned about it being first person though."
Personally, I'm still hoping that it's a third-person,over-the-shoulder-camera, in the same vein as ResidentEvil4, MassEffect, or Gears. I dislike first-person for RPG's- whats the point of getting all the cool gear (power armor, etc.) if you're only going to see disembodied hands 95% of the time?
Bethesda has a history of incorporating both 1st and 3rd person views, but most of the time, 3rd person seems to be added as almost an afterthought, and isn't really playable.
Or as expressed in English: one common starting point, multiple avenues of plot advancement. The first two games were renowned for the fact that you could become.. a bare-knuckled kung fu master that slaughters every child they come across and is reviled by all... Or a pistolero do-gooder working to 'thwart the evils' of the world and fight organized crime in all forms... (etc) Yet at the end of the game accomplish the same 'scripted' goals.
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I see no problem playing single player in a MMORPG. If I don't feel social why should I be?
You should try Guild wars, it's a MMORPG with a single player focus.
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It's an epidemic! :-p
I think that's meant to be 'canonical', following the original story in theme, word, and ideals.
Not to mention BioShock right around the corner. A lot of old favorites are being resurrected in the near future. The original Starcraft, Fallout 1 and 2, as well as System Shock 1 and 2, are some of the best games ever made, in my opinion anyway. Here's hoping these new incarnations live up to the old legacies, and that this isn't another Fallout Tactics.
Owning a Mac Pro never felt so good!
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Maybe they didn't retain the rights. Wasteland was published by Electronics Arts (Fallout by themselves thru Black Isle).
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That was a big nothing. So they show us some pre-rendered zoom out from a wrecked subway car. Who cares that if it wasn't "outsourced" like the PR guy said? It still tells us nothing about the game other than a release date and who's making it.
GW isn't, and never has really been an MMO. Also, its made to encourage team-play, as the henchies are really only good early on or as cannon-fodder... though the heroes in Nightfall are a bit better.
I like the teaser, I didn't want too but I do.
;)
:p
I am however still somewhat doubtful about Bethsoft pulling off another Fallout games, which will be to the liking of us old fanatical fanboys. Interesting narrative, dialog and npcs hasn't excatly been the most delicious thing on the plate in any recent Bethsoft game (if ever) - and those are some of the key aspects you will want to master if you're going to succeed in making a Fallout game. Naturally Bethsoft havn't gotten to the position they are in now by making horribly games - and seing how they're Fallout fans themselves they probably know about these keys without any of us fanboys screaming at them.
Still, the morbid attitude/feel, the wicked approach to morals where everything goes because nothing is really right or wrong and of course the freedom to commit violence hasn't really been mastered by anyone in the gaming industry aside from "Trokia Trio" (Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky and Jason Anderson). I don't see how Bethsoft will ever handle that, when Black Isle themselves weren't fully capable of doing it in Fallout 2 after the Trokia trio had left to form, well Trokia.
There is always hope I suppose, at least this teaser builds a solid foundation for hope. But I, and others like me will likely remain bitter skeptics until having completed the game.
Although the game was developed by Interplay, Wasteland was actually published by Electronic Arts, who held the rights while Fallout was being made.
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did anyone else mentally complete this with:
... be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Maybe it's cause I just got done reading a story on slate about mafiaa hitmen dropping their guns.
Curiosity was framed, Ignorance killed the cat.
But they say it is "in-engine", which means they have a 3D engine capable of doing first person. Either way, we don't know for sure right now.
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Why do you think Bethesda would do this? It's not like their TES titles were bastions of moral absolutism.
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World without hate or war, invaded. Tragic?
I don't have a problem with playing alone in mmorpg either. I played my share of WoW and did solo quite a bit although I preferred playing with people. It is just that you don't really have a story involving you. You are not really important in the world. I know Guild War is a bit different but I would not call it a real MMo though. It is more of a Diablo clone and instead of having chat rooms to choose the game you want to play, you do it in the city with your character, everything else is instance, a la Diablo. It just isn't the same and I doubt they will ever be able to achieve a real single player experience in a mmorpg world. ps: I did play Guild wars and did not really like it, but that was probably because I was playing world of warcraft at that time and it was so much better. I may try it again.
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Seriously, who over the age of 14 or so cares about trailers?
Grow up people. Buy or don't buy the game. Quit buying into the hype.
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I agree, Wasteland was my favorite game at the time, I totally skipped Fallout 1 since I'd rather go back and play WL.
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It's actually pretty boring. At least it is short...I supposed they could have just panned out for another 15 minutes.
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It's 2007, it's a sequel to a series that's built on a psuedo-3D graphical style (isometric) from a time when 3D graphics weren't good enough to give users what interplay wanted... no shit it's going to be 3D. Probably the best route would be sorta like FF12s camera, but even higher up and farther back... basically the same view as the original three Fallout games, but that could be swivelled around the player and possibly "realed in" to being fairly close behind, when need be. 3D != First Person. Heck, most 3D games aren't first person. Why is everyone jumping to conclusions?
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Agreed. I was extremely nervous about Bethesda picking up the license. I really liked the little touches. The music, Ron, the same style in artwork. Here's hoping they pan out.
Your descriptions brought back warm and fuzzy memories. I just finished Fallout for the Nth time a few weeks ago, but now I'm going to have to go back and replay Fallout 2 again.
Learning to use hencies is the key. I find Henchies are better than human players as I can focus how they fight. For example a team od ranged users used much more effectively than human players ever could.
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publishers distribute it, deal with the marketing, etc. They don't have any rights to the game itself.
disappointing how short the trailer is... I'd like to get some background. The cities look like they were only just recently destroyed... does this immediately follow the nuclear attack?
there are some 2007 PC games that offer solid single player experience:
_ Command and Conquer 3
_ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
_ Tomb Raider 10th anniversary edition
Gee, I guess you wanted it to have a myriad of explosions and maybe some tits, and perhaps a few heads being blown off.
:)
It's atmospheric, it hits all the buttons to make fans of the original games excited again (the period music, the old world war posters, the things from the world that was left lying there...
And the game engine looks pretty darn nice.
I have to say I had no idea that Ron Perlman did the voice overs of the last two games, I guess it would be because I didn't know who he was when I played them... but Hellboy as voice over guy... nice
It can have all the style and charm of the first two games, but if they fiddle with the combat mechanics and move to a twitchy, real-time mode of gameplay... this will make Vault Boy shed radioactive tears.
I've always felt that turn-based combat is what's really lacking in most modern games that disappoint... there are people that play tennis, and there are people that play chess; both great games, but the people who are drawn to crpgs tend to be looking for something a little more like chess, imo.
I play these games to relax and escape... being able to sit and think about my next move, is a luxury unavailable in real-life most of the time.
Here's hoping for turn-based combat remaining in the game.
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Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48, and am what some people call "mentally retarded".
I think some people are missing the greater point of this teaser.
It's very much in the style and tone of the other two Fallout game intros, and to me that shows that Bethesda is trying to make this a Fallout game, rather than "Elder Scrolls with guns". That to me, is pretty exciting.
That's not how it was marketed/hyped at the time. ;) Now, it's quite obvious that it's not a sequel.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
Considering the company that's making it, I would definitely say that limited freedom should be the least of your worries.
I just have a problem paying to play a game that I bought. I bought the game, now it should be MINE, dammit!
Please put some pants on before you post again.
I feel the same. I actually enjoy WoW and EVE quite a lot, but I get this strange feeling that I don't really own the game, that it's not mine. WoW and EVE are probably not the best example but lets say that an new MMO comes out that I really like but it never actually takes off and the company shuts it down after a year or two. Now, although I paid for the game I simply cannot play it anymore (not to mention 10 years from now for nostalgia).
MMO's are not perfect, but what I like about them is the huge world available for exploration and tons of items and different classes to try. As far as I understand, the monthly fee is supposed to cover server costs and the updates to the game. So why aren't companies creating such massive worlds for single player games? Someone correct me if I am wrong but the only game that comes close to the vastness of an MMO is Oblivion, and even that one is very small compared to the world available in a game like WoW.
This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but I really hope they modernise the gameplay. I never played Fallout back when it was fresh and current, I was playing all the games based off Bioware's engine - Planescape, Baldur's Gate, etc. I decided to dig up a copy of Fallout a few years back and give it a go since it's such a well-loved game.
The setting is absolutely fantastic, and generally I liked most of the concepts behind it. The gameplay, however, felt incredibly clunky. So much so that I ended up giving up on the game. I can see why people would find the concept so compelling, but the actual execution of the gameplay was like running into a brick wall for me.
_ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
_ Tomb Raider 10th anniversary edition
_ hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 Wow, that "hex" game sounds intriguing!
Fallout was also supposed to be GURPS computer adaptation, but "they" had a falling out with Steve Jackson games.
and, unfortunately, that is why you will be disappointed. Fortunately, it will be disappointment directed at fallout 3..... and how bad could that really be?
I think you should really, really think about this sentence for a moment.
Goes to show my age. When I heard that I didn't think "Hellboy is doing the voice overs", I thought "Oh man Vincent is doing the voice overs" :).
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Yeah, I guess it is unrealistic to expect a game trailer to actually, you know, show some of the game. If this is all they have to do to get you excited, I bet you might explode if a girl said hi to you.
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I think the reason they made the trailer, and made such a big fuss that it was done in engine, was to show that they are capable of making the Fallout world in 3D. The funny part, at least to me, is they got the greenish-gray hue the first two games had. The thing is, the first two games did that most likely because of lack of a bigger palette. Still looks good, and I think they got at least the looks down. Graphics capabilities will change in a year and half though.
It's still got that Steve Jackson flavored absurdity and dark humor...the image of Pip-Boy blowing people away for "Bloody Mess" fits right in there with Munchkin and INWO. I'm sure we've all heard the rumors that they cut out a lot of that wonderfully twisted comic relief...I hope it's not true, that's the icing on the cake for that game...
I'm stoked as hell for this game, I just hope it can live up to Fallout 2 and not be as constraining as Fallout: Tactics (not to say I didn't like Tactics, but it wasn't an RPG, and wasn't nearly as evilly hilarious as 2).
That and it seems there might be more of a time commitment to play many, many hours a week so I haven't tried a MMORPG yet. Battlefield 2 was fun to go online and play though I thought. I'm not going to pay a monthly fee for a game I already bought, I must be too cheap I guess. Elder Scrolls to me is one of the best series of games evah! I trust Fallout in their hands, looking forward to seeing this trailer at lunch. I may have to try the upcoming Conan MMORPG though...that's the plan anyways, we'll see.
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I think you either mean Blue Sky Studios, or more likely, Blur Studios, Who were the ones who did the Dawn of War cinematic. Blue Sky does more feature length stuff. Horay for using in game assets and all, but that was pretty unsatisfying for me. I don't think it conveyed enough of the fallout world to get me that excited.
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Solo? Look, I've tried that on both WoW and FFXI, and when you try to solo, you get your ass handed to you. In FFXI, by the monsters, by lvl 20, anything that gives XP will RAPE any single player character. In WoW, its possible to lvl soloing mobs, however above about lvl 25 or so, you get raped by played of the opposing faction. Who come along in a party and then corpse camp you for half an hour. It's pretty disgusting.
Yeash.
Heh heh, that line about girls was pretty fresh, superstar.
I was confused by the change in polygon levels. The bulbs at the beginning are pretty tessellated, but after zooming out some more there are definitely some objects that show their edges, like the teddy bear. But I guess if this isn't in-game footage, then they must've just gotten lazy with they teddy bear?
Back then, many games ended out of the control of the creators.
Look up the history of Armada 2525.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Public libraries nowadays have public, Internet-connected computers. Quite a few cafes have them too, for that matter. I'm kinda afraid of what kind of comments we start seeing when the pubs follow the example.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
You need to raise the joke net, to catch the ones that fly right over your head.
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