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Jack Thompson Sets His Sights On Halo 3

GamePolitics is reporting that anti-game advocate Jack Thompson is seeking to have Halo 3 declared a nuisance to the public in Florida. He tried the same stunt with Bully, and failed then too. "As with Bully, Thompson clearly hopes the court will grant him a hearing. Although after last year's well-publicized Bully performance, which earned Thompson a Bar complaint from presiding Judge Ronald Friedman, that seems unlikely. More troubling by far are the long term implications of this action. Thompson apparently feels emboldened to invoke Florida's public nuisance law against any video game he desires to target. That is the essence of censorship and the video game industry cannot allow it to continue on any number of grounds - legal, moral or creative."

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  1. Who cares! by guysmilee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who cares ... he loses every court battle!

    1. Re:Who cares! by pruneau · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, exactly who cares. Can /. stop the stooping lower trend and go tour some more interesting landscape.
      Leave this frigtard alone: he just leaves on the attention he is getting.

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    2. Re:Who cares! by drydirt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who cares ... he loses every court battle!

      I care. He might win one.

      (We're talking about Florida after all, not exactly a bastion of sanity)

  2. Nuisance by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is he allowed to keep doing this? He should be punished for his endless series of nuisance lawsuits and then he should be held accountable for damaging reputations and businesses with his slanderous, ridiculous, attention-seeking, self-serving accusations. That he is given endless court and television time is highly offensive.

    1. Re:Nuisance by pieaholicx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Couldn't Jack Thompson be considered a nuisance at this point?

      I want a lawyer on here right now to tell me if I have a case!

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    2. Re:Nuisance by SparkleMotion88 · · Score: 5, Informative

      TFA quotes parts of the Florida law related to nuissance. To sum up even more, something can be declared a nuissance if it damages the moral well-being of the community. The law uses prostitution and gambling as an example.

      These sorts of laws exist for your own protection. If you would choose to engage in these activities, then obviously you are ignorant of the harmful effect it can have on your life and afterlife. So if Jack thinks Halo is morally harmful to those who play it, then he's right and it will be banned as long as a majority of the people agree with him.

      But seriously, we see stories like this in the news all the time, and we continue to fail to see the actual cause of the problem. People like Thompson and others are just using the system that is in place for their own gain. That makes them smart, not stupid. It is the system that is stupid. If ridiculous laws like this didn't exist to begin with, then ridiculous cases like Jack's would never even be heard in court.

    3. Re:Nuisance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's pretty sad, but it can require something REALLY bad in order to actually disbar a lawyer
      A single bullet ought to do the trick nicely.

      (Yes, Mr Thompson, chalk up another on your pathetic list of "death threats"! Because every AC on Slashdot is actually a murderer - no, worse than that, a gamer in disguise!)
    4. Re:Nuisance by InvalidError · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If he keeps filing non-case cases, he'll get more reprimands and if he persists to the point of actually become considered a nuisance by too many judges, I guess he could eventually get disbarred for repeatedly filing frivolous and potentially anticonstitutional cases. Should such a fortunate event occur, he could still file suits but would need to convince some other lawyer to risk his name on the case... so we'd be far less likely to see any more of his cases reach the courts.

      Jack is video gaming's Doc Mailloux... they claim to operate from higher moral grounds but the world would be far better off without them.

  3. Crazy! by Zebra_X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What? Halo 3 is just another FPS. What is so deplorable about Halo? Actually - it might be a good thing to get MSFT's legal department rolling on crushing this retard.

    1. Re:Crazy! by Seumas · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think Jack Thompson misunderstood the tagline - "FINISH THE FIGHT".

  4. Re:Payroll by Notquitecajun · · Score: 2, Funny

    He minus well = Jack Thompson is a sick puppy.

  5. I'm getting tired of this... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He was funny a couple of years ago, but it's like an annoying joke that was funny at first and then starts driving you nuts. I wish he just shut up.

    1. Re:I'm getting tired of this... by techpawn · · Score: 3, Funny

      In soviet russia you drive jokes nuts...

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    2. Re:I'm getting tired of this... by jimstapleton · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, what you are saying is...

      Jack Thompson = Family Guy?

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  6. More press? by Scutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why do we keep giving this guy air time? Enough with the Jack Thompson stories already.

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  7. Sometimes... by 644bd346996 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... Goliath actually manages to kill David.

  8. It is important to our cause to give publicity by netsavior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jack Thompson is the greatest asset we have in our fight to keep video games from being villified and banned/censored.

    The primary spokesperson of the anti-video game movement is clearly a psychopath. Completly batshit crazy. If he was not crazy, and used logical (sounding) conclusions and appealed to reasonable or religious sensibilities he would be MUCH more dangerous to free speech than he is.

    So we MUST give him lipservice, we must work to keep his illegal, crazy shenanagins in the news, because as long is he is their front-man, we will always win.

    1. Re:It is important to our cause to give publicity by Kierthos · · Score: 2, Funny

      I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy that says 'shenanigans!'

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    2. Re:It is important to our cause to give publicity by netsavior · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll bite and go one step further...
      Ratings systems are for lazy parents.

      My son, who happens to love video games is not yet 3 years old. I could not give 2 shits about what the rating says, he is disturbed by some "child friendly" content, and not disturbed by some "Teen to adult" content. They don't know my kid, they don't know my morals, they are doing their best to convey some sort of moral average. Content is subjective. What is right for my kid is not right for other kids, the only I can actually regulate what he sees, and how he reacts to it is to *gasp* be involved in his daily life.
      Of course it is easy for me because I love games so I am automatically involved there, but I have watched a lot of shows that I hate and read a lot of books that are annoying, because I am a dedicated parent.

      I'm not sure I have a solution to the problem, but a ratings system will be about as effective as telling parents they need to try harder. Ratings systems are an attempt to qantify a subjective concept of "morality" which is impossible.

  9. Re:Payroll by Baby+Duck · · Score: 4, Informative

    He minus well get paid by Take two and Microsoft.

    minus well? MINUS WELL? It's "might as well".

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  10. Re:Payroll by GrayCalx · · Score: 5, Funny

    He minus well ...

    Brilliant. Truly brilliant. The best part is its not even close to the actual letters for the word(s) he meant to say. So I take that to mean he really believes thats what people are saying when they use that phrase. That cracked me up, seriously, that had me Latching Out Lard.

  11. Public Nuisance? by sunderland56 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    With Bully, Jack Thompson had a sliver of a case - that children in a private school might buy the game and start emulating it in real life by beating up their classmates.

    Similarly, he might have a case with GTA:Vice City, where people in Las Vegas might buy the game and then start randomly shooting people and stealing cars.

    But Halo 3? What, the astronauts on the International Space Station might play the game, and then start shooting each other in real life?? And even if they do, how is that a public nuisance?

  12. Re:Why is he still allowed to practice law? by nuzak · · Score: 4, Informative

    > I seem to recall him being thrown out of a courtroom in Alabama because he didn't even have the legal right to practice law there

    You don't need to be licensed in a state to practice there. You get admitted pro hac vice (literally "for the occasion"), and it's usually a rubberstamp thing as long as you have a valid license in another state. Thompson's behavior in the Alabama case was so abominable that he had his pro hac vice status revoked for that case, plus a requirement to attach the order to any further applications in Alabama. In other words, he's effectively been disbarred in that state.

    Keep in mind that if Wacko Jacko gets disbarred in Florida, it will almost certainly be a temporary suspension of his license. It's virtually unheard of for a lawyer to be permanently disbarred for misconduct that isn't a felony or blatant ethics violation. Jack may have committed the latter on occasion, but most of his pleadings these days aren't for any client but himself.

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  13. Please Don't Feed The Trolls by zodar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can we stop giving Jack Thompson coverage so he can slide back under his rock and disappear?

  14. Self-describing by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Funny

    IMHO Jack Thompson is a nuisance to the public himself.

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  15. Did you read the complaint? by strredwolf · · Score: 4, Funny

    I took a look through it, and one thing struck me odd:

    Jack says (in the lawsuit filing) that the release date for Halo 3 is: October 25th, 2007.

    Real release date? Tomorrow.

    FAIL, Jack. FAIL.

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  16. Re:Payroll by thesandtiger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or he's using voice recognition software in Vista.

    Eye yam woozy-sing hat cane clotbear.

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  17. Re:Payroll by Monchanger · · Score: 2, Funny

    The best argument against posting corrections on posters' spelling and grammar (and whatever the hell this was): Slashdot readers believe your comment was informative.

  18. The real public nusiance by jelton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jack Thompson is the real public nusiance.

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  19. FYI by BytePusher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I read through Mr. Thomson's COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AND FOR BREACH OF AGREEMENT to see what he was complaining about. Otherwise he is seeking legal action for Best Buy not obeying a settlement they agreed upon:

    13. When plaintiff first filed an action similar to this in Miami-Dade Circuit Court it was against defendant Best Buy to stop the sale of "Mature-rated" video games at its stores to customers under the age of 17. Best Buy settled that suit by agreeing to henceforth age ID any customer who appeared to be 21 years of age or younger in order to intercept and prevent any sales to anyone under 17. Best Buy announced this new policy nationwide.

    I'm not a lawyer, but I think this is the "Breach of Agreement" part of his complaint. I suspect he has a case for this portion of his complaint.

    Below is the stuff about the game itself:

    9. Halo 3 is a video game that allows the virtual reality player to rehearse violent acts resulting in the death of one's virtual victims. Lee Boyd Malvo, the younger of the two "DC Beltway Snipers" was trained on Halo to kill residents within Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, D.C. His "mentor," John Muhammad, knew the efficacy of the first Halo video game in this regard, because the Army in which he served used this same murder simulator to train snipers to kill. Malvo learned well on Halo.

    10. The role of Microsoft's Halo in the "DC Beltway Snipings" was reported on NBC News and was introduced into evidence in the trial of Lee Boyd Malvo.

    11. The proof as to the causal nexus between violence simulation video games and real-world violence is legion, but one of the more notable proofs is found in the August 2005 Report of the American Psychological Association that establishes the direct causal link between violent teenaged video game play and teenagers' aggression. The recent U. S. Supreme Court case of Roper v. Simmons, which struck down the juvenile death penalty, cites the brain scan studies similar to those coming out of Harvard, Indiana, and Michigan State Universities that prove that these violent games are processed in a different part of the brain in adolescents and teens than in adults, and it is the sector of the brain that leads of teen violence copycatting these violent games like Halo 3.

    1. Re:FYI by Kesch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OMG! You mean I can train to be a sniper with Halo! I never knew it was so easy. Screw the long hard training to be a sniper in the army; I'm going to go get me a copy of Halo and be a pro in no time. This immediately brings a few questions to mind though. For instances, which Halo should I train on? In the PC version, you have to lead with the sniper rifle, in the Xbox version you do not. I can see this making a difference. Secondly, where are the analog sticks on my gun? I'm having a hard time finding them.

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  20. Re:Payroll by jez9999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about weaning yourself off that addiction? Seriously, it's bizarre how Americans can be so zealously anti-drug, and yet treat a caffeine addiction as 'just something that most people have'.

  21. Re:Payroll by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's been that way for decades. "Just say NO!" while gulping down an aspirin, antihistamine, Alka-Seltzer, Viagra, Prozac, amphetamine cocktail, and chasing it with a martini and a cigarette. Yeah, we hate drugs in this country.

  22. GTA, Bully, Halo, and then... by oahazmatt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thompson: As you can see, this so-called "game" features underlying propoganda...
    Judge: ...where?
    Thompson: ...Veiled commands of violence against others...
    Judge: What?
    Thompson: ...and subliminal messages designed to turn our children into soulless killing machines.
    Judge: I'm sorry, I don't see it. The court finds in favor of the defendent. Viva Pinata may remain on shelves.

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  23. Re:Payroll by FreakinSyco · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its a doggy dog world out here. Theirs no room for bad grammar in todays business world.

  24. Re:For a second there.. by EricTheMad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought Slashdot was smarter than to give this idiot any attention at all. You must be new here. Slashdot is made up entirely of idiots seeking the attention of other idiots by posting clever responses to stories or other peoples comments. If you don't believe me, just read this post again.
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  25. public nuisance by OVDoobie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Someone should file a public nuisance claim on Jack Thompson. This guys is an idiot, and it might rub off on our kids. Think of the Children for crying out loud.

  26. Agreed, don't become complacent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I don't necessarily agree with the swipe at Florida (I don't disagree either, it's just irrelevant), I agree in spirit. While he has become as tiresome as a spoiled child that has yet to be disciplined (though the Bar is finally waking up to his antics), until he is unable to practice law, he is still a threat to freedom. We must not allow complacency to settle in, every time he rears his fool head, the public needs to be reminded as to what a self-serving, shallow, narcissistic, delusional danger he is, until no-one pays him heed again.

    That being said: GO AWAY JACK! You're only making a greater fool of yourself!

  27. Re:Payroll by Disseminated · · Score: 5, Funny

    For all intensive purposes your wright. Its to bad I don't have no mod point's but if I did I would of. Irregardless, you'r point is much more affective then the usual drivel around hear.

  28. Ah yes... by l0b0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good thing this guy keeps reminding me which games to buy. He's not paid by the game developers? Shucks.

  29. Re:READ HIS LAWSUIT by festers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a parent, I'll decide what my kids can and cannot play/read/listen to. Not a corporation and certainly not a lunatic lawyer.

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