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What If Yoda Ran IBM?

Esther Schindler writes to mention that one IT leader who came from big business found himself in quite another world when he transitioned into a smaller business, specifically with respect to the amount of attention from their vendors. He presents an amusing approach with a familiar twist. "Not only are the IBMs of the world leaving money on the table, they're also risking future sales. The IT leaders at small organizations will in many cases be employed by larger organizations someday. Why alienate them? Vendors could engage IT leaders in small organizations now and build brand loyalty. How could they make such a business model work? Let's imagine (with apologies to George Lucas) what Yoda might do if he were running a large consultancy."

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  1. All the software would be written in Forth by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which might be a Good Thing.

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    1. Re:All the software would be written in Forth by vocaro · · Score: 1

      Forth understand hard not is!

    2. Re:All the software would be written in Forth by noidentity · · Score: 1

      May (the) Forth be with you!

    3. Re:All the software would be written in Forth by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      If Yoda ran HP everything would be written in RPL.

    4. Re:All the software would be written in Forth by mysticgoat · · Score: 1

      A Good Thing the which of that might be.

      There. Fixed for you did I.

      The Forth with you, maybe. The Farce with you, for sure.

  2. Yoda didn't face Wall Street by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every quarter, each publicly traded corporation must feed JabbaTheStockAnalysts, who will deem them more, or less capitalized by their whimsy, the weather, and other important factors.

    Yoda doesn't have a chance.

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  3. ahh Yoda.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was always wondering what's the name of that guy with the big ears, making the computers run..

    1. Re:ahh Yoda.. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "I was always wondering what's the name of that guy with the big ears, making the computers run.."

      You know, it's not very often that somebody on Slashdot mixes up Yoda and Mr. Spock.

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  4. Tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tag: stillsuckitwould :-)

    1. Re:Tag by StellarFury · · Score: 2, Funny

      Terrible modding. Please, someone reading at -1 bump this up for funny.

  5. Leaving money on the table is not always bad by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Nor is leaving room open for competition.

    These build a healthy industry in which you can play. Complete dominance of an industry is unhealthy (look at Old IBM or M$). Having competition gives you feedback which is vital for the long term success of a company. Trying to be all things to all people dilutes your business strategy too. Far better to leave some opportunites unexploited.

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    1. Re:Leaving money on the table is not always bad by jomama717 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would take it a step further than "not always bad" and say for a companies like IBM it is probably perfectly logical and necessary in a lot of cases. With the sheer size in terms of resources and infrastructure of IBM the overhead costs must be enormous. The cost/benefit ratio probably starts to even out long before a project gets down to $25,000 (from TFA).

      So it is not that the huge vendors are doing the little guys a favor by passing on small deals, it's that it just doesn't make any sense for them to pick them up. Small vendors fill a niche that large vendors can't afford to.

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    2. Re:Leaving money on the table is not always bad by rtb61 · · Score: 1
      Perhaps you missed all the press releases that corporations love about mergers, you know, synergies, consolidation, minimising overheads, eliminating redundancies. It is not really overheads that give small business an advantage of big business. It is simply staff quality ie. staff members who fulfil more than one role at a time, real live team work instead of meetings and empty talk, staff who are successful at climbing the corporate ladder but are useless at their job and hiring more staff to do the work not being done.

      It is about staff pursuing larger more profitable clients, rather than smaller clients. It is about the retail sector, low customer ethics, shopping prices, amateur negotiating tactics, customers looking for answers they want to hear rather than the truth ie chronic time wasters and quite simply stereotyping small customers upon that basis and avoiding them.

      For large companies the best way to tackle small clients is as a three level company, major corporate services, medium business franchise (one per regional city) and small business franchise (many local locations). The franchises have to be fairly tightly controlled and your really after franchise teams (most of the staff at the franchise are part of the franchise), rather than franchiser and poorly paid under trained monkeys. It could be used as a side ways promotion for internal staff, where the company creates and funds the franchises, and creates a partnership with existing internal staff who would be willing and able to self manager, all as a significant staff development opportunity.

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    3. Re:Leaving money on the table is not always bad by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A company like IBM can add some significant value to large customers:

      1. They have expertise in the kinds of hardware you'd find in a huge corporate datacenter. Your local small business probably doesn't need an EMC SAN, but a credit card company would. When this kind of stuff breaks you need major help in a major way - and you pay them in gold.

      2. They can handle enormous projects and be a single-point-of-accountability. Just write an eight-figure check to IBM and your problem goes away. And you have somebody to sue if it doesn't. Not just anybody can burn through that much cash and actually deliver something.

      Often big companies are a big waste to deal with, but in the right circumstances they are the best choice.

      For example, I've had two occasions to have to work with a consultant from Oracle. Both times they were insanely expensive, but both times they were worth the expense. It just doesn't make sense to have that kind of detailed expertise on-staff at all times, but when you really need them it is amazing who they can dig up. I saw one fix an extremely obscure file corruption on a VAX-based database product that hadn't been sold in about a decade. I consider myself fairly skilled in tinkering with software, but I wouldn't have known where to begin. They got it up and running in what seemed like a few hours, and educated some of our staff on what they did. They also gave a few recommendations that kept the problem from recurring. In the end they were well worth their price.

      If you're a small business you're almost better off finding somebody local - not necessarily a single person, but a small IT firm that will take care of you long-term. IBM doesn't hire people from your neighborhood - they'd burn your budget just flying people in. You just have to be careful that you don't end up with somebody without the discipline to solve your problems for the long-term (tossed-together solutions are just asking for trouble).

  6. EASY! by CajunArson · · Score: 5, Funny

    All Yoda would have to do is look at any company and just say: "No, too old"
    Some of the companies would then get really bent out of shape and turn evil later, while other ones would just annoy Yoda until he gave up and threw them a support contract he never has to fulfill since he dies!

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    1. Re:EASY! by BigMike · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yoda dies????>

    2. Re:EASY! by grasshoppa · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sit down, jr, you might be in for a shock:

      Vader is Luke's father. Oh, and snape kills dumbledor ( after a gay affair ).

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    3. Re:EASY! by gknoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      .. well, it may Slashdot, but that was surprising. :)

    4. Re:EASY! by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, and snape kills dumbledor ( after a gay affair ).
      See, it's changes like that one why I refuse to watch the digitally remastered Star Wars movies. Those characters didn't even appear in the original movies!
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  7. Yodanomics by clem · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, let's see. If Yoda ran IBM of the 1980's like he ran the Jedi Counsel, he'd probably remain fixed in his devotion to the old ways, overlook some growing threat and then watch helplessly as the order he watched over was overcome and twisted into an empire of unimaginable might.

    Wow. Thank goodness that didn't happen.

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    1. Re:Yodanomics by ttapper04 · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Please mod insightful.


      Thank you.

    2. Re:Yodanomics by mveloso · · Score: 1

      Not just that, but their tragic lack of health care would cause defections of key people in the workforce, leading to the almost total destruction of the organization.

    3. Re:Yodanomics by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Re:Yodanomics (Score:2, Insightful)
      by ttapper04 (955370) Alter Relationship on Wednesday December 05, @06:48PM (#21591609)
      Please mod insightful.

      Thank you.


      Wow! It worked! Here, lemme try:

      Please mod funny.

      Thank you.
    4. Re:Yodanomics by bcat24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, but I'm fresh out of mod points. (OTOH, funny mods don't add to your karma, so this reply is almost as good.)

  8. yeah, jar jar. by User+956 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let's imagine (with apologies to George Lucas) what Yoda might do

    Don't bring George Lucas into this. You'll end up with a lanky, obnoxious rastafarian running the place.

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  9. Yoda quotes about running IBM: by ForestGrump · · Score: 3, Funny

    Run IBM I do.

    Feel the force...force of Cell processor.

    Conference not with a phone, but with the force.

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    1. Re:Yoda quotes about running IBM: by pravuil · · Score: 2, Funny

      Big blue, small green, become one it will. Destiny misquoted. Chosen one am I.

    2. Re:Yoda quotes about running IBM: by kcbrown · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Begun, this clone war has".

      (in reference to the emergence of Compaq)

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  10. If Yoda ran IBM by kindbud · · Score: 4, Funny

    The company would be called Machines Business International, Yes.

    The CEO would be Steve Ballmer, the company would be run out of Redmond, WA, and it would market the dominant desktop OS in the world. But Yoda would think he was still in control running things out of Yarmonk.

    On the other hand, their servers would run quite well in damp conditions.

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    1. Re:If Yoda ran IBM by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      And half of the manuals would read, "Blank this page has been left intentionally".

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  11. Yoda would use the force by canuck57 · · Score: 1

    Yoda would use the force. Maybe instill do what you say you will and force it into the system. No exaggerated promises, caveats or missed deadlines. Perhaps be honest with the customer and not be so much on the dark side.

    Not just an IBM issue, goes for 90% of the service providing companies out there. The force only grows while the dark side is not present in greater numbers than the purist side.

    1. Re:Yoda would use the force by Hyperspite · · Score: 1

      Moreover, in order for someone to use a computer, they would have to collect special gems and meditate for days using the force to fuse them together with the chips into a cohesive whole - grinding inefficiencies out of the chips lest they short circuit and explode.

      Then the apprentice would have to learn the code, and apply it following the sacred rules:

      • Do, or do not. There is no try.
      • Booleans, only with the Sith deal in.
      • Your buffers: mind well them.
      • Be mindful of your emotions. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to vengeance and cracking.

      Excuse my blatant thievery from the rest of the threads.

  12. IBM doesn't do much well at all... by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    IBM's #1 advantage is they are on every government and big corporate preferred vendor list, because they have entrenched sales forces who are excellent at pitching to upper management. They are great with the mainframes too.

    Other than that, what's good about them?

    Servers:
    IBM xSeries are junk
    IBM iSeries are treading water and relegated to vertical markets
    IBM pSeries makes Sun look cheap.

    Software:
    Tivoli - Sucks
    DB2 - Ok
    Lotus - Sucks
    Rational - Double Sucks

    Consulting services are the same as any big vendor. If you're the CIO of a small company, you're simply insane to expect IBM to give you the time of day -- why would they? They make more money collecting maintenance on shelfware from a big bank than they would providing actual service to you!

    IBM has some really smart people tucked away somewhere. But to an IBM customer, dealing with IBM is like dealing with the IRS.

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    1. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny
      I use IBM "products" (calling them that is generous) on a daily basis. Grandparent is right on. If you honestly think those software products are "awesome", you fall into one of the following categories:
      • You are in management. Congratulations, you've been suckered.
      • You have never seen anything other than IBM software. All of Slashdot offers its condolences.
      • You need your head checked. Feel free to post an "Ask Slashdot" asking for references.
      • You are an IBM shill. (Doesn't really seem their style, but there's a first time for everything!)
    2. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by 73bgt · · Score: 1

      > IBM has some really smart people tucked away somewhere. But to an IBM customer, dealing with IBM is like dealing with the IRS. Very true. I have been doing some work with a local council recently, they have fully bought into the IBM thing, iSeries, lotus notes, websphere, etc. When you actually get to deal with IBM things you can get things done. But IBM don't deal directly with customers. First you have to go through the partner for that business area, pay £1500 per day for a consultant who usually knows less than than your avarage employee assigned to the project equipped only with the IBM website documentation. Only when all has failed will IBM send in a team of salespeople, with one tech guy to answer the hard questions. The salespeople go off to the management/stategy meetings, and we get get the guy with the clue to help us sort out the real problems. They do themselves a disservice. It should not be that hard, their software is pretty good compared to the competion.

    3. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by Nursie · · Score: 1

      Umm, Tivoli Network monitoring and management is second to none. I mean that, none. They utterly dominate their market and for good reason.

      pSeries are good systems.
      Z leaves everything else looking cheap, underpowered and lightweight. And I mean lightweight, the top z box weighs two tons...

      iSeries I don't know much about, I'm not sure big blue are too huge on those any more either.

      x are great x86 systems. Dunno if they're special, but they're not bad either.

      Lotus, we can agree on. But rational? My god, what is your malfunction? Clearcase is a winning source control system, purify is a fantastic (and simple) debugging tool.

      This isn't even to mention their myriad research labs.

      I mean seriously, are you living under a rock? Big blue doesn't do everything right by a long stretch, but it has a hell of a lot going for it. If it doesn't deal with the small fry that's because it has more than enough big fry jumping for a bite at the bait.

    4. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by Nursie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why is the parent modded informative? All it does is sling mud.

      What better products do you have to offer than rational?
      Bonus points if it's something that comes with guarantees on reliability and support.

      Who else makes a system as powerful and capable as z?

      Extra credit - who designed the chips in all of the next gen consoles and is raking in the cash as a result?

      I'm not any of those things you mention, but your rant is terribly shortsighted.

    5. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by dcam · · Score: 1

      Rational - Double Sucks

      Damn straight. I was evaluating some automated test tools recently for the first time. One look at rational and I thought I'd stepped into a time warp and dropped out in 1997.

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    6. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by bhmit1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      IBM is a sales company first, a hardware company second, and a software company third, in that order.

      I've come into deals where I have to take my hat off to the sales person because I have no understanding how they made the deal happen. That's as much a complement as it is a criticism.

      The hardware is pretty decent, but you have to pay for quality and support. I don't know how many other vendors out there will be on-site in IBM's timeframe.

      The software lineup is made by acquisition. The one line that I know a fair bit about, Tivoli, has dozens of products under the umbrella, and most all of them were other companies that used to be best of breed. So saying they suck makes an overly broad statement about a lineup of security, backup, monitoring, automation, and other tools where even the pickiest customer can find something they like. What the develop by acquisition strategy leads to are issues with consistency, direction, and migration paths which is bad if you're an existing customer on the old software. But at least theoretically (I'm too busy maintaining the old stuff) the new software shouldn't suck. Where you do hear a lot of disgruntled users are in the monitoring space where the old products aren't dying easily and IBM is acquiring too many new products leading to confusion and wait-and-see users, but that's one of many product lines under the umbrella.

      Also, I'd say that Lotus deserves a bit of credit not as an email platform (square peg in a round hole), but as a collaboration and distributed database system. They had the corner on that market long before anyone else knew it existed.

    7. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by Richard+Steiner · · Score: 1

      Z leaves everything else looking cheap, underpowered and lightweight. And I mean lightweight, the top z box weighs two tons...


      Uh... Not Unisys Clearpath boxes. :-)

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    8. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by Nursie · · Score: 1

      Cool, will have to look those up, I have a weird interest in heavy machines. I thought z were about the largest (production, not specialty) machines going.

    9. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by JamesP · · Score: 1

      Well... let's see

      What better products do you have to offer than rational?

      Pretty much ANYTHING ELSE. There are two 'common' products that I consider worse than ClearFuck: RCS and VSS. CVS is more or less the same, but CC admins help makinkg things worse than they should ve.

      Or, to put it in another way (paraphrasing torvalds): "having a million monkeys throwing crap at the walls and encoding the information in the patterns on monkey shit is a better format than ClearCrap"

      Because, like, everyone who is minimally serious about SW development is already using truly reliable and fast systems, atomic commits and other advanced things.

      Except for the dumbfucks (like you) who think it is funny using History explorer to find the history of an element as if it was a game. Or taking minutes to check in a 8kb file.

      Bonus points if it's something that comes with guarantees on reliability and support.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

      The only thing CC is warranted to do is to crap its pants if left to its own devices.

      As for support. Yes, IBM support is trying to figure out why ClearQuest is hanging twice a day (in the place I work). It's been a couple of weeks now.

      I'd rather use stuff that works out of the box, not a piece of shit that was charged an obscene amount of money for.

      I decided that I'm not taking any more jobs that involve dealing with IRRATIONAL CRAP.

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    10. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1
      Interestingly, you didn't identify which four of the groups you fall into. ;-)

      Here's a quick rundown of some of the tools I've had to put up with. Note that these are post-install comments as installing a piece of IBM software is a full 8 hour job for an experienced hand. If you haven't installed the software before, budget a few days of your time.

      • Rational Developer - To call this product "pitifully slow" would be giving it too much credit. Creating and deploying new web components is the height of confusion with settings hidden all over creation. "Errors" on non-error conditions pop up regularly with no explanation for their cause. (Can someone please tell me why FS search never completes successfully? I mean, it finds the files. It just doesn't finish with anything other than an error condition.) You're better off using a vanilla Eclipse install. It will do the same job, but with less memory and an easier install.
      • WebSphere - Bloated, slow, rarely does what you expect it to, semi-supports standards but pushes you toward IBM-specific APIs, has different code paths depending on whether you use GUI tools or command-line tools (creates some interesting deploy situations), poor documentation that would make Microsoft proud, costs about 1000x what it's worth, licensed under bizarre terms that can leave you with access to functionality you have no licensing to use, etc.
      • DB2 - At its core it's capable of performing its SQL tasks. That's about the most I can say for it. It's a PITA to manage, the GUI tools not only look like they are straight from the 80's but they lock up regularly, it was practically the LAST database to get JDBC Type IV driver support, it has a variety of features that extend the SQL standard but break in odd ways when used, its performance is nothing to write home about, and it really fails to provide any value over alternative market options like Oracle and SQL Server.
      • Lotus Notes - "Could you resend that? We've been having problems with Lotus Notes deleting emails as of late." I can't count how many times I heard that phrase or phrases like it. Any product that makes Microsoft Exchange look reliable is a product to avoid. 'Nuff said.

      Thus I ask again, which of the four groups are you in? :-)
    11. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by Richard+Steiner · · Score: 1

      The "Unisys Clearpath" brand is how Unisys markets their MCP and OS2200 mainframe lines these days.

      (Burroughs A-boxes and Sperry 2200-series boxes, effectively)

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    12. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by mrhartwig · · Score: 1

      IBM pSeries makes Sun look cheap.

      Plllleeeeeeaaaassssseeeeee. HW's a commodity, and what's cheaper today is more expensive next week. When are people going to quit just spouting this crap and actually do a bit of research?

      Now, I admit that I don't know all the details of either of these, so maybe I'm not comparing apples to apples. Having said that, they seem pretty comparable based on other stuff on the respective sites, and they're all touted as "Enterprise class"...

      From Sun's web site: 4-way M4000 with 16GB of memory. Has 5 card slots, 2 internal disk bays, 2 built-in GigE ports. Takes up 6U of rack space. $79K

      From IBM's web site: 8-way 560Q with 16GB of memory. Has 6 card slots, 6 internal disk bays, 2 built-in GigE ports. 4U rack space. $34.8K

      I didn't even bother to price a 4-way HP rx7640. At 17U, it can't possibly be worth the space.

    13. Re:IBM doesn't do much well at all... by duffbeer703 · · Score: 1

      I definately agree with much of what you have to say.

      One point about hardware is that generally you are the mercy of your local "business partner". IBM doesn't actually manufacture most systems, dozens of boxes per server get shipped over 1-4 weeks to the local business partner, who then assembles them. In my experience, this usually translates into more DOAs. I have the same issue with some Sun products as well. Note that I'm talking about xSeries hardware -- the p, z and i stuff is top-notch quality -- at a price.

      People bitch about Dell -- but when I get a PO cut for Dell stuff, it arrives at the data center dock within a week in one or two boxes. The warranty and other services from Dell are about as good as IBM (on the xSeries side, again the p, z and i are a different league), except that IBM will support ancient hardware practically forever, where Dell pulls the plug at 5 years.

      With regard to Tivoli -- I think they have a product line that's all over the map that is simply more expensive to implement than most alternatives. For the money that I've seen spent on customizing Tivoli implementations that sorta-kinda work, you could integrate open source or even roll your own solutions. The constant churn of products makes it impossible to transition implementations from consultants to the employees -- by the time you bring people up to snuff, it's time to implement some new product. As a consequence, you're never done rolling out, (or your running obsolete product that's on life support) and the Enteprise Management Solution becomes more of a distraction than a solution.

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  13. WTF? by Malached · · Score: 5, Funny

    "During my first year at Sequoia I concentrated on improving the processes that affect operational excellence." ... I annoyed the F*&%( out of the people who did the real work. "With these processes largely working, I must now spend my time providing a technological vision" .. when they started ignoring me, I came up with lots of useless documents, to pretend that I was actually worth the ridiculous sum I was paid.

  14. Vista of Death will destroy iRebels by kubusja · · Score: 5, Funny

    But once our mighty Vista of Death is completed ... no one will be able to stand up against Emperor Gates ... We will find and finally destroy iRebels!

    1. Re:Vista of Death will destroy iRebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You won't even see Emperor Gates.

      Defeat his apprentice, Darth Chairidius, first you must.

    2. Re:Vista of Death will destroy iRebels by Megane · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean Darth Ballmer?

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    3. Re:Vista of Death will destroy iRebels by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Whatever he's called, we're talking about the big scary guy with the Force Sweat.

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  15. Yoda? Already in charge. by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

    Recalling just what part Yoda played in the first 3 episodes, I'd say he's already running IBM's consulting. That's why small businesses don't get any attention.

  16. Buy IBM you will by Techman83 · · Score: 1

    *Hand Wave*

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  17. finally! by blhack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been saying this same thing for years with regards to IBM's AS/400 platform. Anybody who has every worked with one of these machines will tell you that they are absolutely, hands-down, the greatest database box available today.

    But.

    The only people running Os/400 are huge financial institutions who's annual I.T. budget ranges in the Millions of dollars. I can't get a copy of OS/400 to play with. Just can't do it. Not unless i want to spend a month's salary on it. Even then, i can't really DO anything with it (maybe have one connection to the database at a time).
    Now take linux/mysql. I use this combo ALL OVER THE PLACE. Any time i need to throw a database down, its a linux box with Mysql. Every. Single. Time.

    Why?
    Because i grew up playing around in redhat, suse, mandrake, and gentoo boxes and I feel like i know linux inside and out (although i'm sure i don't). I have complete confidence in myself to order some hardware, install a distro on it, and have a database up and crunching within a day.
    I have NEVER tried this with an IBM product because i simply CAN'T! I can't risk that significant of a portion of my budget for a toy that I may or may not be able to get working in time.

    I guess it works the same as what happened to my beloved coke machine today. They upped the price to $1.25. Nobody drinks coke anymore except the people who are REALLY addicted to it.
    Bastards.

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    1. Re:finally! by dwywit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have been saying this same thing for years with regards to IBM's AS/400 platform. Anybody who has every worked with one of these machines will tell you that they are absolutely, hands-down, the greatest database box available today.

      Amen brother!

      The only people running Os/400 are huge financial institutions who's annual I.T. budget ranges in the Millions of dollars.

      Cite? My PPOE(2) had an annual IT budget around AUD$200K, and we managed to run as AS400 E35 + ~50 green-screen terminals and ~50 peecees on that. Try telling people that you could support 100 users on a "server" with 48MB (yes MEGABYTES) memory!

      Yes, the HW and OS cost a lot of money to buy, and maintenance is a PITA. OTOH, you put a call in, and someone is there within agreed contract times to fix it, or escalate it. The machines just sit in a corner and run.... for years. The E35 ran for more than 10 years before it became economical to replace it - so they replaced it with NT servers, and we became used the BSOD in the server room.

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    2. Re:finally! by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      "They upped the price to $1.25. Nobody drinks coke anymore except the people who are REALLY addicted to it."

      Or who are smart enough to use hokey religions (buying in 24-packs) and ancient weapons (coolers or workplace refrigerators) to lower their costs to about 33 cents per can. Although to be completely honest, the smart ones already stopped drinking soda altogether.

    3. Re:finally! by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      33 cents a can? Ouch. Remind me not to move to... uh, wherever you are. (Locally in southeastern Michigan, if you buy the 24-packs on sale the cost is under 21 cents a can, plus refundable deposit; I suppose if you included the deposit, that's reasonable, but otherwise...)

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    4. Re:finally! by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

      Better yet, right across the border in Toledo, same price with no deposit!

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    5. Re:finally! by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Yes IBM does have some awesome kit in the AS/400
      and the z series machines. Although everything else
      of there's is just an overpriced rehash of what
      everyone else has had for at least 10 years.

      You might get some advantage from not running
      Sparc (because that arch has always kind of
      stunk). Although you will likely run into support
      issues if you stray too far away from Armonk.

      It's a strange place to be in lusting after a
      Linux PPC version of a piece of major enterprise
      software.

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    6. Re:finally! by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      Now take linux/mysql. I use this combo ALL OVER THE PLACE. Any time i need to throw a database down, its a linux box with Mysql. Every. Single. Time.
      This is why SQL Server, Oracle and DB2 now all have Express editions that are free for real production use, as long as your database is small enough. You can use the free version on Windows or (except SQL Server) Linux, and then when you outgrow it, upgrading to their paid version is the natural choice. Maybe you can't use an AS/400, but you can use DB2.

    7. Re:finally! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      I don't know about Linux, but SPARC has always been very well supported by the BSD community. Since Alpha died, SPARC has been the cleanest architecture around, and kernel developers love it. If kernel developers are actively maintaining it, it means that packages get tested heavily and fixed if they break.

      Since SPARC64 is almost the exact opposite in every way to x86 (64-bit, big endian, alignment constraints), it makes an ideal testing platform for userspace developers too. If your code runs on 32-bit x86 and 64-bit SPARC it will run pretty much anywhere.

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    8. Re:finally! by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Sparc is just associated with Sun's lead in the market. It gets more
      attention because of market inertia. Being better in any respect doesn't
      have anything to do with it.

      Alpha is a great example of this.

      Alpha had a 4:1 advantage against Sparc.

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  18. Matter not what Yoda does... by ttapper04 · · Score: 1

    ...consult his share holders we must.

  19. My Lotus Notes Padawans by copdk4 · · Score: 1

    become a real JEDI you will.. when u use Lotus Notes for 6 months.

    1. Re:My Lotus Notes Padawans by maz2331 · · Score: 1

      Notes I will not, for a saber light in guts is less painful.

  20. And Tux Skywalker will destroy the Vista of Death. by lavacano201014 · · Score: 1

    The iRebels and their X11-Wing starfighters will destroy the Vista of Death. Take THAT, Emperor Gates.

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  21. Re:Dear Lord by belthize · · Score: 4, Funny


          Learning to identify your core competencies so you can leverage your resources in an effort to devlop effective intra-deparmental synergy
    thus allowing you to devote time to identifying emerging paradigms is what being an MBA is all about .... or so I'm told.

    Belthize

  22. I don't think so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yod is a Jewish letter. Now, it's the first letter in the proper name of God (AKA the Tetragrammatron), but it's not the Divine Name itself. I don't know if it's used as a shorthand (because pious Jews even go so far as to write G-d instead of God), but I haven't seen it used that way.

  23. What If Yoda ran IBM? by Phat_Tony · · Score: 2, Funny

    He'd dual Bill Gates with a lightsaber?

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    1. Re:What If Yoda ran IBM? by bckrispi · · Score: 1

      No, but if he fights Darth Ballmer, we'll see how he can use the Force to deflect a thrown chair.

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    2. Re:What If Yoda ran IBM? by karbin · · Score: 1

      Nitpick I know, and not trying to be a grammar nazi - but I like how the GP misused dual instead of duel, and the parent misused duel instead of dual. It's like you two traded words.

    3. Re:What If Yoda ran IBM? by pionzypher · · Score: 1

      He'd dual Bill Gates with a lightsaber?

      Nay... Ballmer with a chair.... passionately shouting his warcry of "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"
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  24. Why not in C? by rabiddeity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, I think he could do it equally well in C++, following some special guidelines. Within a given program, either all loops would either begin with "do", or none of them would. In addition, Yoda's code would never use exception handling.

    1. Re:Why not in C? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      For those of you who are not programmers, exceptions in C++ -- and in most other languages, including Python -- pretty much all follow a model of:


      try:
              something()
      except Exception:
              something_else()


      where something() is executed and if it fails due to the named exception, something_else() gets executed.

      I actually didn't get the joke at first until I thought about how exception handling is specified in Python and C++.

    2. Re:Why not in C? by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't expect any boolean variables, either. Only the Sith deal in booleans.

    3. Re:Why not in C? by Eddi3 · · Score: 1

      Mod parent funny!

      "Either you're with me, or you're my enemy" - Anakin skywalker
      "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" - Obi Wan Kenobi

      What's more absolute then 1 or 0, with nothing in between?

    4. Re:Why not in C? by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's more absolute than saying "Only the Sith deal in absolutes"?

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    5. Re:Why not in C? by BohKnower · · Score: 1

      I hate when someone needs to explain a joke to me, very funny indeed.

    6. Re:Why not in C? by nemui-chan · · Score: 1

      Because "Use the Forth, Luke!" sounds much better than "Use the C, Luke!"

    7. Re:Why not in C? by Nite_Hawk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Do, or do not. there is no try."?

  25. All out servers by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

    on to one, migrate we would.
    Stolen, the suits would think it was.

  26. Forth, Postscript Language ... by monopole · · Score: 1

    ...Standardize We Must!! RPN, IBM change name we must!!

  27. Ah.. yes.. by jrivar59 · · Score: 1, Funny

    W.W.Y.D. ?

  28. newsflash: by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 4, Insightful



    Big Co. pays more attention to potential customers who actually have money to spend with them. Also, some products are out of reach of small companies.

    Wah. If you don't know that a 17 year old, dressed scruffily, who hasn't shaved for 5 days, will receive less attention at a Mercedes dealership than the nattily dressed 40-ish man, you just don't live in the real world. Sure: the 17 year old could be Bill freaking Gates, or a rockstar. Or might become one some day, but will have been so soured on the treatment received that they vow never to buy a Mercedes.

    But frankly, almost all of the time, talking to the 17 year old is a waste of time at best, and at worst you lose the customer that is really ready and willing to spend money with you because you've ignored them.

    Y, it sucks. So it goes. You might argue that one of the ways that Microsoft got as popular as they did with CIO types is because everyone uses them at home, so 17 year olds that get their start troubleshooting home computers go on to CIO jobs and stick with Microsoft because they know it. But, frankly, if that was all of the answer Apple would rule the world--everyone in a certain generation used them at school, but it did not help their adoption in enterprise.

    btw: can we stop linking to CIO mag, please? It has the absolute worst S/N ratio of any online mag out there, and the article content generally isn't that good either.

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    1. Re:newsflash: by mollymoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      [CIO mag] has the absolute worst S/N ratio of any online mag out there, and the article content generally isn't that good either.

      Well, the articles are written by and for CIOs. When bullshitters are your target market ...

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  29. $25,000 for disaster recovery? by charlievarrick · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've deployed systems for organizations 1/10 the size of what TFA describes that cost more than that.

    If IBM could make money providing services to size X companies, they would.

    If IBM doesn't want your business, take your business elsewhere.

    And isn't developing a disaster recovery plan his job?

    Let me see, now that he's got the whole "operational excellence" thing sorted out and he's made the "Executive Leadership Team" he wants to sit around all day dangling a whole $25K infront of consultants instead of, i don't know, fiquring out how to implement a disaster recovery plan .

    1. Re:$25,000 for disaster recovery? by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      What does that have to do with Yoda running IBM ?

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    2. Re:$25,000 for disaster recovery? by mollymoo · · Score: 1

      They said they came fom a much larger organisation. That probably means they have never had to actually do anything themselves. They're probably a pure manager, totally non-technical. Managing your strategic planning is important, but I bet this CIO represents at least 20% of their IT salary budget, and it's just not that important.

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    3. Re:$25,000 for disaster recovery? by Alpha830RulZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Methinks the author of TFA isn't as experienced as he would have us think he is. $25,000 will only buy about 120 hours of any reputable senior consultant. The big firms will need about $400/hr. IBM properly realizes that they can't deliver any value for the budget, and is not wasting the author's time or theirs.

      The economics of consulting firms are such that you have to charge about 3 times the payroll cost of your staff to cover your costs and make some money. So, if you have a reasonably experienced consultant, who makes $120k a year (which is lowish in the bigger markets), you need to bill that person at $360k a year. Figure 70% utilization, or about 1400 hours a year, and you have to bill the guy at at least $250/hr. That's the economics of the big firms. The only ecosystems in which those firms can deliver value commensurate with their cost are the large client organizations. Hence, they quite rationally focus on them. I won't offer an opinion as to whether they can in fact deliver to that value - that depends on the team, the people, and the problem.

      This leaves a significant market out there which can be served by sole proprietor consultants for $100-150/hr. The author needs to go find himself one of those folks, and quit whining. If he had a business head on his shoulders, as he insists that he does, he'd be able to figure that out. Since he can't, I'm not sure I'd view him as likely to move up in the world to those larger firms, and I suspect that the vendors have figured him out as a weak player. I have never had trouble getting vendor focus when working in small firms, so it isn't impossible.

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  30. Yoda speaks backwards. by dwalsh · · Score: 4, Funny
    But this guy speaks asswards:

    "With such a small shop I have to spend a great deal of my time maintaining operational excellence." ...plugged out the the kettle from the UPS and plugged the server back in.

    "During my first year at Sequoia I concentrated on improving the processes that affect operational excellence." ...stopped answering user queries with "Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?"

    "With these processes largely working, I must now spend my time providing a technological vision for Sequoia." ... 1 week surfin' = 3 slide vision Powerpoint.

    "As you can imagine, creating a fully functional disaster recovery plan requires an enormous amount of time--and, as I noted above, I've been focused on operational excellence, not long-term strategic planning." ... No, we have never tested restoring from the backups.

    You know what happened? IBM consultants met someone a bovine coprologist even mightier than them, and that scared them.
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  31. Yoda Right Now by synonymous · · Score: 1

    Yoda is in exile due to the Chancellor Count Bush Administration surprise attack against the Jedi and Republic. Help us Obi Wan.

  32. I've lived some of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Posting as AC to protect ex-employer and his clients.

    We were engaged to develop a large web app for a large not-for-profit (in the Care Sector) to replace their aged tape based mini-computers. We suggested IBM hosted services for hosting because of the incredible uptime you get with Linux VMs running on S390. IBM did not want to talk to the NFP directly however, despite their large (for that sector) annual budget. They wanted to have us acting as middlemen, for no apparent reason we could see. It was almost as if they didn't want to be seen 'hanging out with the spastic guy' - it was very weird.

    I heard (I wasn't in the meeting where it was allegedly said by IBM) that IBM was only going to deal directly with large customers (i.e. Fortune 500 and Governments), and was building a network of 'Partners' who would manage 'smaller' clients. My colleague had the impression that 'manage' meant 'accept all risk'.

  33. Doesn't he already run HP? by ross.w · · Score: 1

    that's why they sell those calculators

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  34. The megacorp you seek was in another castle. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    I believe you mean NCR.

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    1. Re:The megacorp you seek was in another castle. by 644bd346996 · · Score: 1

      HP is the only company currently producing calculators that use RPN.

    2. Re:The megacorp you seek was in another castle. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      The reference referred more to Hurd's history before HP more than it was to the calculators.

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  35. Do Or Do Not. There is No Whine by sofla · · Score: 1

    That's what Yoda would say to him.

  36. I gots ta say! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hahaha! Bovine coprologist - I love it! Is that anything like a terminological inexactitudarian?

  37. MBI by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    "Machines, Business International"

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  38. Re:Did you say that with a lifp? by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you seen Yoda's hands? He'd have to use the Force just to type all those parentheses!

  39. Bullshit Bingo? by sr8outtalotech · · Score: 3, Funny

    I noticed from the article that $25,000 was the budget for implementing a fully functional plan. In addition the consultants must be experienced. Developing the plan is his job but I'm guessing his non-profit is not only cheap but has unrealistic expectations regarding what a disaster recovery plan that is fully functional entails. Being realistic, if their IT infrastructure gets wiped out by a flood, why bother with disaster recovery...they probably don't have the budget to replace anything before the insurance kicks in let alone have any type of backup sites/redundant infrastructure/replacement personnel available.

    Another implication of the article is that only large consulting firms can do a quality job that adheres to best practices. "I'd like access to the same expertise that my colleagues at larger companies have." Could he really mean, he'd like the same expertise that his colleagues have at larger companies but for $15/hr. Isn't that what Craigslist is for?

    I got out my bullshit bingo card and almost won...

    strategic concerns
    providing outstanding technology to our colleagues
    strategic value
    operational excellence
    operational excellence
    technological vision
    technical vision
    business vision
    operational excellence
    tried-and-true management principles
    best practices

    If only the same phrases weren't used over and over.

    1. Re:Bullshit Bingo? by Gori · · Score: 1

      darn.. you beat me to the bullshit bingo... signal to noise ration in the TFA is rather low...

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  40. To paraphrase Yoda himself by Dachannien · · Score: 1

    Fear leads to patents. Patents lead to lawsuits. Lawsuits lead to suffering....

  41. easy by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    His lack of vision would result in the employees getting murdered, and he would go hide in a swamp.

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    1. Re:easy by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      His lack of vision would result in the employees getting murdered, and he would go hide in a swamp.
      We seriously need to get this guy in charge of Microsoft.
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  42. THIMK YOU MUST by grikdog · · Score: 1

    ...or you will not the worlds in conquest enmesh.

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  43. I thought I saw him running 'round NCR. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    NCR woulld seem to fit a bit more than IBM given some of its circumstances nearly following script. It'd fit given that it was a large company(similar to something Yoda would lead) with influence across the world, but then extinguished(via AT&T and Nyberg) to obscurity.

    That's not to mention that their local presence is all but going or gone, and with a similar touch.

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  44. Coke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree with you completely about IBM, but Coke?

    "I guess it works the same as what happened to my beloved coke machine today. They upped the price to $1.25. Nobody drinks coke anymore except the people who are REALLY addicted to it."

    Upped? Let's see, Coca-Cola was introduced in 1886 at $0.05. In today's money, that's $1.09. Wow, a whopping 15% price increase over a mere 120 years! Yow!

    They kept the price the same for 70 years despite hugely fluctuating costs.

    Wait, that's price per serving. Initially Coke was sold in 6 ounce servings. So in today's money, it would actually be $2.18 per 12 ounce can. So it's really 44% cheaper per ounce than 120 years ago. You were spoiled by them keeping the price at exactly 5 cents for 70 years, but after they started raising prices, they actually tracked slower than inflation, overall.

    Yes, I know big numbers are scary, but it's called inflation, and it's not just the Coca-Cola company being mean.

  45. Engaging the wrong type of firm by JeffSh · · Score: 4, Informative

    This CIO is engaging the wrong type of firm for what he wants. I work for a "Premier IBM Business partner" in Lansing, MI and we do this type of work all the time. We put together HA/DR solutions and serve some surprisingly large customers despite our simple business partner status.

    Big blue takes a pass on work that is "this small", but that's what the partner network is for. We don't have the resources for huge projects, but we are perfectly geared for projects of this scope. Not only that, but we are focused enough to deliver quality product and quality customer service where big blue cannot. Additionally, due to our having a small but long-serving tech staff, we are not "green" as the writer complains. An organization the size of IBM simply is ineffective at serving projects of this size.

    He should have, or the IBM reps he was in discussion with, contacted an IBM business partner in his area that could have helped him. IBM Business partners have always been part of IBM's strategic vision and the author of this piece completely ignores them and the role they play.

  46. This is why I hang out at reddit by maynard · · Score: 1

    Not funny; not insightful; not even close to realistic.

  47. Re:Clueless about costs? by bhmit1 · · Score: 1

    Obviously this guy is clueless about the true costs of things
    Or at least he has no understanding of the costs associated with larger businesses. The internal rate for the (likely outsourced) consultant is probably $100/hr give or take, which they will mark up anywhere from $150-200/hr to cover sales commission, billing and other overhead, profit margin, etc. And for any IBM project, it really requires two people onsite, so that means you're being charged $300-400/hr, possibly more if travel is involved.

    So that ends up with two weeks, maybe less, of services. In that time, you might have some planning meetings with a project manager, some upper management meetings to get buy-in and some direction, and a high level discovery in the first week.

    And then you need to start looking at each system within the organization to determine if and how it would be recovered from the network, to the OS's, to the DBs, to the apps. Not to mention the requirement to identify the DR facility, testing plans, handling future growth, etc. Finally, you need to document your plan, make sure it's approved by management, and make any changes. All of that won't be happening in a week, not even a month, 3 months would be fast.

    This whole article seems to sum up a person that wants to get the local college grad rate on craigslist from big blue. If I were Sequoia, I'd be seeing if $25k could handle the head hunter's fee and signing bonus on a replacement for their CIO that could build the plan himself. Of course, I'm not Sequoia. I am, however, one of the $100/hr consultants that IBM uses.
  48. Idiot by chill · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This guy is an idiot and I have no sympathy for him.

    He has what is a small to medium business and wants the 900-pound gorilla of the consulting business to cater to him? Turn this around. What is wrong with all those small to medium consulting businesses? Are they too small for his company to pay attention to them?

    Hypocrite.

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  49. Can we inject some monetary reality here? by Gybrwe666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, look at the reality of what this guy is asking for:

    Sales time. Believe it or not, good sales people cost a lot of money. You have the choice of hiring a bad salesperson, who doesn't know what he's talking about or doing, or a good one. So a salesperson will run you, even in a crappy small company, $60k per year (plus 20% for bennies and taxes). Now, IBM needs someone who is, shall we say, better than good. They have lots of products, and they have to be able to deal with everyone from an analyst to a CIO. Not only that, but they have team behind them, usually comprised of some inside people and a sales engineer or two, to answer questions.

    So, realistically, you have about $500,000 in salaries, commissions, and benefits in a small sales team.

    Let's divide that by $25k. 25/500 = 20. That means that the sales guy, just to cover his costs, has to sell 20 deals a year to small businesses to make a living. Oh, wait. That's not the case. He needs to make a decent profit, as well. Lets put it at 25% or so, conservatively. So we're up to $625,000, or 25 deals a year.

    Oh, wait. That doesn't include the salaries of the engineer who does the work. Tack on an extra $150k or so for a top notch "Jedi Master". And that would be cheap. So were' up to $650k plus 25% margin, or $812,500. Or about 32.5 deals per year.

    Now, we all know that even a lightsabre wielding Jedi Master sales guy won't close every deal. So lets say, which is a huge gimme, that he can close 50% of the deals he is given. So he must now, conservatively, talk to 65 customers a year, bare minimum, to earn back his money and make a little profit.

    Oh, shit, we forgot expenses. You know, office space, cell phones, internet, computers, support, travel, lunches, dinners, visits to strip clubs.

    Tack on another $50k per year for that. Or 2 more deals closed (we're up to 34.5, if you were paying attention) or 69 customers talked to if he was lucky.

    That means we're averaging more than a deal closed per week, and, let me tell you, it doesn't happen that way.

    And we haven't even scratched the surface of expenses, including things like marketing, customer acquisition costs, back end support costs.

    The reason that IBM doesn't do this isn't because they don't want to. Its because they *CAN NOT*. This is not their business. They have a defined business plan. I can guarantee you that nowhere in that plan do they deal directly with SMB's for $25k deals.

    Instead, they have a very established partner network to deal with this. And some of those partners are quite good, quite knowledgeable, and employ guys with as much if not more experience than some of those IBM engineers. Sure, there are bozos. But if you do due dilegence in selecting a partner, you should be able to eliminate those quickly and quietly, especially if you have big business experience.

    Note: all of the big boys have a partner network. IBM, HP, EMC, Cisco. Plus all the others. Every single one. Some of them have gone to the extent of putting their top partners into their traditional stronghold space of Fortune 1000. Cisco is notable for having put partners into their Named Accounts many years ago.

    As full disclosure, I work for a company that has, at one time or the other, partnered with every one of those guys. Some of those partnerships were great. Some were a disaster. In every single one, we had highly qualified engineers with decades of experience in multi-discipline IT skills supporting our customers. In fact, one of those partners (won't name them but their one of the biggest of the big) used to slip us business on the side when the customer was unwilling to pay their rates (~$350/hour, travel exclusive) because they knew we could do the same job at less than half the cost.

    The point of being a small IT specialty business is to be able to provide a service to a completely different kind of customer. My company has ~25 full time employees in house. We have 450 or so on-sit

  50. Re:I waited to reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm guessing you're a programmer - and if you really believe your own BS, it's no wonder you're HomelessInLaJolla. :-)

  51. Re:Dear Lord by echucker · · Score: 1
    An interoffice memo from our firm... Company and personnel names have been changed to protect the innocent (namely, me)

    Internal Memorandum

    Date: July 17, 2002

    To: All DrugCo Employees

    From: John Smith, Group VP, Marketing & Sales, Pills and Syrups

    Fred Johnson, Group VP, Sourcing, Pills and Syrups

    Subject: Divisionalization Project

    This communication is the first in a series to employees explaining the reasons for and the effects of the on-going divisionalization of DrugCo into separate Distribution and Sourcing companies. This project was introduced in January of 2002, and you have probably heard "bits and pieces" of information since that time.

    The acquisitions of FizzCo and PopCo can be used to highlight the need for this divisionalization for several reasons. These acquisitions introduced a much wider product portfolio (with some overlap), two more North American sales forces, and two additional European factories to the DrugCo picture. These acquisitions, to a great extent, "internationalized" DrugCo, with products now being supplied from factories in France and Germany, in addition to products from factories in Sweden and the U.S., all intended to serve markets across North and South America.

    Drug AB and many other well-known international companies have successfully used an organizational model in which the key responsibilities of the company are divided between a Distribution Division and a Sourcing Division. The Distribution Division has the key responsibility for marketing and selling cost effective solutions that satisfy our customers' need for products and service in the various markets we serve. The Sourcing Division has the key responsibility for developing and supplying the right products, on time and at the right price, to the Distribution Division through a combination of internal production and external suppliers.

    Implementation of this basic organizational concept is currently in progress, with Joe Smith leading the global Distribution Division and Fred Johnson leading the global Sourcing Division. Reporting to John is Billy Bob, President and CEO for DrugCo, Inc. Reporting to Fred is Bubba Joe, President for DrugCo Sourcing, LLC.

    Most work, thus far, has concerned the development of financial reporting and logistics management, both being critically important areas. It is envisioned that as the implementation continues, the two Divisions will develop into "Centers of Excellence", keenly focused on their respective functions.

    The Distribution Center of Excellence will develop world class expertise in identifying customer needs in the various market segments that it serves. Such expertise includes the ability to specify, bundle, and profitably sell effective solutions to customers from a wide product portfolio. Thus, this Center of Excellence will control marketing, sales and service; pricing; finished goods and service parts inventory; sales forecasting and demand planning; and, shipping and installation.

    The Sourcing Center of Excellence will develop world class expertise in the various products it supplies to the Distribution Division. Such expertise includes the ability to develop, produce and/or source products worldwide. Thus, this Center of Excellence will control purchasing, product supply, production planning, product manufacturing, product engineering, external product sourcing, and quality assurance/regulatory affairs.

    The primary business planning interface between the two Centers of Excellence will happen via market segment managers in the Distribution Division and product managers in the Sourcing Division. Since products overlap markets, these experts will interface on a matrix basis, thus interconnecting the Divisions to a web of customers, markets, and product suppliers.

    The beneficial effects of this organizational model are many. Perhaps the two most important effects are:

    1. The creation of

  52. Re:What if.. by maz2331 · · Score: 1

    Vote Paul.

  53. The Emperor would kick his ass? by tjstork · · Score: 1

    If Yoda ran IBM, he would miss an emerging trend, a new force that is seemingly allied to him would rise up and betray him, and he would lose a pitched conflict. Not that I was thinking about Microsoft and the OS/2 divorce and following Warp v W95 battle, but it seems like maybe Yoda already did run IBM...

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  54. Re:Coke at $1.25 by Brickwall · · Score: 1
    At $1.25 for a 24 oz, it is cheaper for me to buy a 2 liter for $1.25 - $1.50 and throw away the unused portion if I don't get around to it before it gets flat.

    Same thing has happened at restaurants that have upped their drinks to $2.25. OK, I could grin-n-bear it for $1.95, but once you crossed the $2 barrier for ICED TEA, water please.

    Same with candy bars. $0.69 even at a grocery store? I used to (as a kid in the late 70s) get them for free with a $0.25 off coupon. $0.50 was bearable if I wanted a treat. Now, F' no.

    On the plus side, can we assume you've dropped a few pant sizes?

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  55. If Yoda ran IBM? by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone knows that IBM uses Star Trek strategy and not Star Wars strategy. That is how OS/2 bombed despite having a "Star Trek" theme and name of OS/2 3.0 Warp.

    Just make an OS/3 based on Linux and call it OS/3 1.0 Yoda. Modify WINE to run the OS/2 API into Linux as well. Make sure that all IBM Windows software works on WINE, and has Linux ports as well.

    Instead OS/3 1.0 Yoda on every new IBM PC sold, and also port it to the Mainframe, iSeries, pSeries, etc systems as well.

    Design Yoda to be so simple that Young Jedis can use it as well as the older adults with no computer knowledge at all.

    Take the Firewall/AntiVirus protection and call it "The Force".

    License OS/3 1.0 Yoda to other OEMs like Compaq, Dell, Gateway, ASUS, Acer, etc.

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  56. Re:Did you say that with a lifp? by gallwapa · · Score: 1

    Absolutely hilarious. Now I need to find a cloth to clean the monitor screen from the soda that just got spit on it.

  57. Re:What if.. by dbcad7 · · Score: 1
    Paul is dead

    I am the walrus

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  58. Yoda regex! by Jonesy69 · · Score: 1

    's/IBM/BMI/g'

    "Business machines international"

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  59. Re:Coke at $1.25 by donscarletti · · Score: 1

    Then I spent 3 months in AU/NZ. There they don't have 2L bottles.
    Most softdrinks come in 1.25L bottles and 2L bottles in Australia. For some reason Coca-Cola Amatil upped the bottle sizes a few years ago to 1.5L and 2.25L at the same price, presumably in order to get an edge on the smaller bottles of its competitors, but before then it was 1.25/2L. 3L bottles are becoming more common, but by and large they are from the lower-cost local manufacturers. As for your metrificaiton theory I don't think it holds water. The Coca Cola has never directly bottled too far from their own shores, for that they have shipped concentrated syrup containing neither excess water nor sweeteners to regional bottlers who handle local bottling and marketing, in the case of Australia/New Zealand this is Amatil (formerly British Tobacco) who supplies Coke to most of the Pacific and much of Asia. This allows the Coca Cola Company to focus on maintaining its brand and drawing a steady income from it without worrying about local climates and fluctuations.
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  60. Re:Did you say that with a lifp? by ultranova · · Score: 1

    Have you seen Yoda's hands? He'd have to use the Force just to type all those parentheses!

    Those aren't parentheses, those are lightsaber slashes !

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  61. Re:So... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    No, an EJB container that is. Hmmmm??

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  62. Holy Crap by Phantom+of+the+Opera · · Score: 1

    Yes. But you can only take it if you successfully leverage your paradigm. Did you work at Foster Wheeler/San Diego in 1997? That quote was said verbatim by a VP.
  63. "Transition not a verb but a noun is . . ." by thaig · · Score: 1

    Why do management types persist in "transitioning" which makes them seem inarticulate when "making the transition to" is right and easy? Is this a US/UK difference?

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    1. Re:"Transition not a verb but a noun is . . ." by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Because one word is more concise than four?

  64. If Yoda ran IBM by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Desks, lower would they be.

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  65. If Yoda Ran IBM... by GaryPatterson · · Score: 1

    ... he'd have a translator on hand at all times.

    He'd ignore looming business threats until far too late, and then be the only director left standing after all the corporate bloodletting. Then he'd bugger off to a retirement in the jungle somewhere.

  66. no no no by heinousjay · · Score: 1

    You only get to do that if the joke was funny.

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  67. Small/Mid sized business are hard to profit from by gelfling · · Score: 1

    The SMB sector is hard to profit from because the operational structures and processes that IT firms use to standardized are geared towards larger deals. Just to walk in the door generally blows the budget. A $25K deal would be one persons time for 2 months including all the presales time. So the SMB customers have to come to us, not the other way around.

  68. The reason why this is in slashdot by sriramv_iyer · · Score: 1

    I feel the reason this article was slashdotted was only because of the interesting title, and not because of the contents. I found the article quite boring and uninformative.

  69. Re:Did you say that with a lifp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oblig xkcd

  70. yoda@ibm.com by mpweasel · · Score: 1

    I thought Yoda wrote AIX...?

  71. Wow, bitter much? by Nursie · · Score: 2, Informative

    You must just have had a useless admin.

    We use clearcase to store and replicate our source archive globally. Its flexible branching strategies allow us to work effectively on multiple releases of our codebase, and checking files in takes a few seconds.

    I don't know what this "History explorer" you're talking about is, but the graphical version representation makes it very easy to see which version you're currently looking at and which you want.

    It sounds like both your admin and yourself are totally incompetent.

    1. Re:Wow, bitter much? by JamesP · · Score: 1

      By "History Explorer" I meant Right-Click in an element -> CC -> History

      You must just have had a useless admin.

      Maybe. But he did the IBM training course, and is following it, as well as the company standards.

      We use clearcase to store and replicate our source archive globally. Its flexible branching strategies allow us to work effectively on multiple releases of our codebase.

      Marketing blurb. As for checking in in seconds, I believe (as I discussed w/ other people) that this is the fault of Dynamic Views, (and CC doctor shows nothing wrong)

      And you see, you don't need to "replicate your code base globally" since they invented something called "the internet" (which you most likely cannnot use in while CC in syncing with other servers, which usually takes an ungodly amount of time while gobbing tons of bandwidth). Decent source control systems let you check out code via the internet, security, encryption and everything else.

      Not to mention a ton of silly bugs, usability faux-pas (really, it is textbook after textbook example of how not to do things) and mistakes that would have been caught if someone had tested the darn thing for 2 seconds.

      It sounds like both your admin and yourself are totally incompetent.

      Yeah, because I can do with other systems in 2 seconds what takes me to do in CC the whole week and a ton of scripts.

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    2. Re:Wow, bitter much? by AdamHaun · · Score: 1

      We use ClearCase where I work, and I also have complaints about the speed. Adding a few dozen text files can take over a minute. This wouldn't be so bad if there were a way to check in an entire directory hierarchy at once, but if there is I haven't found it. I have to sit at my computer manually checking in the files in each individual directory. Even copying or deleting view-private files is slow.

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    3. Re:Wow, bitter much? by Nursie · · Score: 1

      findmerge is very powerful.

      Or a fscking shell script for god's sake!

      for file in `cleartool lsco -cvi -avo -sho`; do cleartool ci -c "My comment here" $file;done

    4. Re:Wow, bitter much? by Nursie · · Score: 1

      "Marketing blurb"

      I'm a software engineer. That is an insult. I'm not a CC admin but I have designed branching strategies for our products. It works great.

      "As for checking in in seconds, I believe (as I discussed w/ other people) that this is the fault of Dynamic Views"
      You're doing something wrong. I use those and it works fine.

      "And you see, you don't need to "replicate your code base globally" since they invented something called "the internet"

      Ever heard of multi site redundancy?
      Also why would we use the internet when we have a globe spanning private network? And why would one need encrypted transfer when we have VPN?

      It's still sounding like your admin is incompetent.

    5. Re:Wow, bitter much? by AdamHaun · · Score: 1

      I'm on Windows, so a shell script isn't an option. I guess I could muck around with doing something involving cleartool. But why on earth doesn't the ClearCase Explorer let me do this automatically?

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    6. Re:Wow, bitter much? by JamesP · · Score: 1

      I'm not a CC admin but I have designed branching strategies for our products. It works great.

      Ok, branching strategies are important, are not much dependent on the system, are they?

      And the need for branching is greatly reduced when you use continuous integration (except if you want to enjoy the 'benefits' of big-bang integration)

      And don't get me started on how CC does not support unified diffs and atomic commits. That is enough for me to discard it (and CVS and all others that don't support it).

      Ever heard of multi site redundancy?

      Most of the time, it is overrated. There are other forms of getting redundancy. In fact, using the GIT/Bitkeeper model, you don't even need a server.

      And why would one need encrypted transfer when we have VPN?

      It is called "M&M security", or something like that. Hard on the outside, weak on the inside.

      Or a fscking shell script for god's sake!
      for file in `cleartool lsco -cvi -avo -sho`; do cleartool ci -c "My comment here" $file;done


      The fact that it costs what it costs and doesn't support even that out of the box only shows how pathetic this system is. Because everybody sw dev had to do that once (or, most likely, several times) in a lifetime and it should be one of the most basic functions it should support.

      Or maybe they're using CC themselves to develop it and development is fucked up and they can't even add that functionality, like in every place I've seen it used.

      It's still sounding like your admin is incompetent.

      Tools HAVE to be easy to use. The tools I use don't need a full-time admin to keep it from falling apart. Nor they perform like a dog when the admin doesn't configure everything to perfection. Because time is money, and CC is a huge waste of everybody's TIME, MONEY and PATIENCE.

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    7. Re:Wow, bitter much? by Nursie · · Score: 1

      "And the need for branching is greatly reduced when you use continuous integration (except if you want to enjoy the 'benefits' of big-bang integration)"

      Depends what you're doing, branching is very useful when you have several older versions of the product in maintenance (i.e. they get fixes) and an active dev version. You want to be able to apply fixes and supply new builds of the old version whilst saving new functionality for the dev version.

      "Most of the time, it is overrated. There are other forms of getting redundancy."

      but having source archives in multiple locations is a good way.

      "The fact that it costs what it costs and doesn't support even that out of the box"

      Well, as i said, find and findmerge will do that for you as well, but if you can't be bothered to write a one line loop on the command line you're a pretty poor developer, IMHO.

      Meh. i don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you say, it allows me to work efficiently and our full time admin is supporting a few hundred folks around the globe, so I don't consider that too costly, personally.

    8. Re:Wow, bitter much? by JamesP · · Score: 1

      but if you can't be bothered to write a one line loop on the command line you're a pretty poor developer, IMHO

      If writing that script is the first thing everybody does when start working, then it should come with it, shouldn't it??

      I'm not bothered by writing it 'per se', I'm bothered by the lack of such obvious functionality.

      And windows devs don't have that much flexibility in writing scripts.

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  72. CIO Whine by TheLink · · Score: 1

    "Sequoia's IT team has nine members. With such a small shop I have to spend a great deal of my time maintaining operational excellence. However, my role must move from an operational one to one that is more strategic. During my first year at Sequoia I concentrated on improving the processes that affect operational excellence. "

    My PHB-dichlorian meter has just gone off the scale!

    "I do not have the expertise to create a plan that can withstand the scrutiny of auditors and Sequoia's board"

    Is this the CIO rag equivalent of one of those "Ask Slashdot" stories where an obviously incompetent submitter asks Slashdot about how to do his job?

    Sounds like he's whining that someone should help him do his job for 25k while he keeps being paid big bucks for helping his staff play buzzword/bullshit bingo at "operational excellence meetings".

    "Not only are the IBMs of the world leaving money on the table, they're also risking future sales. " "Let's imagine (with apologies to George Lucas) what Yoda might do if he were running a large consultancy."

    AFAIK IBM are in the business of providing all sorts of complex hardware, solutions and choices to customers, AND having lots of patents so that there's a high chance that they can do/provide something that others can't legally. They're not like Microsoft where everything must be Microsoft, or other "One True Way" vendors. The more choices the better.

    If you want a system that uses Java, VB.Net, Windows, Cisco, Redhat Linux and an old AS/400 sure no problem. Too many choices to choose from and need help? No problem, IBM has a bunch of expensive consultants to help you make those choices.

    Not enough money? Sorry, can't hear you, I think you've got the wrong number.

    While you're at it why not call up Learjet/Gulfstream/Boeing and tell them you have a 25k budget?

    Maybe if Yoda ran Boeing, they'd be selling planes to all these people with 25k budgets... Haha.

    I suppose he's not used to flying economy eh? I feel a _bit_ sad for him.

    But maybe that's because I didn't read the whole article - I just had a nice dinner and would prefer to keep it in :).

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  73. SCO case would be easy. by Jaywalk · · Score: 1

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  74. Re:Did you say that with a lifp? by shotgunsaint · · Score: 1

    Fired for buying IBM, noone ever got. I'll be here all week, folks.

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  75. Yoda as CEO by russell.sawyer · · Score: 1

    Yoda ran a large organization (as part of the Jedi council) and lost it all in a single day to the emperor. Do you really want this to happen to your organization?

  76. The horror! by drix · · Score: 1

    It would be BMI. What could be worse than that?

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  77. Re:What if.. by AgentSmith · · Score: 1

    I'm George Bush and I approve this message.

    TACOS RULE!

  78. Middle Endian by JonXP · · Score: 1

    Use it would they.

  79. what? by botkiller · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, but this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

    Besides, we all know George Lucas doesn't deserve any respect anymore.

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  80. MOD PARENT DOWN by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    Fails to leverage sufficient synergy.

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  81. Re:HILJ is a Fraud by alienmole · · Score: 1

    The technical term is "troll".

  82. Re:Dear Lord by alienmole · · Score: 1

    This is clearly the first step in shipping the marketing guys and telephone sanitizers off to another planet: separate "distribution" from "sourcing". At least, that would be the case in a sane universe. In our universe, what'll probably happen is that sourcing will be sold off to the highest bidder, probably a Chinese company, then dismantled for parts, while the distribution division will focus on selling truly popular medications such as Head-On, that don't require so much R&D.

  83. after the SCO vs IBM... by yoprst · · Score: 1

    may be this is a correct question: what if Yoda runs IBM?

  84. Re:Did you say that with a lifp? by humina · · Score: 1

    All technical documents would be written in terrible English.

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  85. Re:Dear Lord by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    Actually, until the last few paragraphs, that wasn't too bad. Short and too the point, mostly devoid of meaningless buzzwords.