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CEO of Red Hat Steps Down

bearer_of_bad_news points us to a C|net article which states that Matthew Szulik is stepping down as the president and chief executive of Red Hat. Szulik is citing family health reasons, and he plans to remain chairman of the board. Red Hat has indicated that his replacement will be former Delta Airlines COO James Whitehurst. Quoting the article: "On a conference call, Szulik said Whitehurst stood 'head and shoulders' above other candidates interviewed in a recruiting process. He was a programmer earlier in his career and runs four versions of Linux at home." We discussed Szulik's ascension to CEO back in 1999.

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  1. ut oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > He was a programmer earlier in his career and runs four versions of Linux at home.

    Unfortunately he's using Gnome as his desktop!

    1. Re:ut oh by Aussie · · Score: 3, Funny

      but is he Emacs or Vi ?

    2. Re:ut oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He uses RH. So an X based GUI text editor.

    3. Re:ut oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nano

    4. Re:ut oh by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 4, Funny

      but is he Emacs or Vi ?

      The answer is almost certainly an unequivocal "Yes."

    5. Re:ut oh by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, noone uses vi on Red Hat. *eyeroll*

    6. Re:ut oh by cmdr_tofu · · Score: 1

      emacs XOR vi ?

    7. Re:ut oh by natmakarvitch · · Score: 1

      "Yep, I go for three of them!"

  2. 4 versions of Linux by calebt3 · · Score: 1

    runs four versions of Linux at home And Red Hat isn't one of them. Neither is Fedora.
  3. I remember by renegadesx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember the 1999 article about Szulik rising to CEO level. Since then Red Hat has done alot and have become very successful in their business model.

    Not to mention making a rival in Oracle after buying JBoss, so in retaliation we see Unbreakable Linux.
    And despite Novell's best efforts and prostituting themselves out to Microsoft we still see Red Hat in the #1 position.

    Red Hat will do great without him (a company after all is bigger than one man) but we have seen a company growing so well under his leadership and that speaks volumes

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  4. family health reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that a euphemism for "he plans to pull off a Reiser"?

  5. Re:4 versions of Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually Fedora IS one of them ... See http://spevack.livejournal.com/40827.html.

  6. Re: Euphemisms by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    It means the board told him if he didn't step down, his family would soon be in very poor health.

  7. Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The worst Airline i've ever traveled on and sadly their customer service, from top to bottom; is horrid. There are even fully dedicated sites describing how bad the service is. Hell, just see for yourself. Seeing as the COO's job is to make sure that said Corporation or company is operating to serve it's customers at the behest of the almighty dollar. I have a very strong feeling that Redhat is in for an extremely bumpy ride. I'm actually really sad to read that this appointment is going to take place. It's hard not to hold Delta's performance against him really.

    1. Re:Delta is perhaps by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Dude, the article indicates that the everybody who interviewed him was impressed. If that's true, and he really is a moron, that means that everybody ELSE at RedHat is also a moron. And if THAT'S the case, then it was fucked anyway. One man can't sink a ship. Okay, if he has several pounds of explosive he can sink a ship. Let's check his pockets.

    2. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That site can't possibly be for real. All the articles are written by "Administrator", in the first person, about bad Delta experiences. If this person hates Delta so much why the fuck do they still fly on Delta? What a load.

      Nice troll though.

    3. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I REALLY hate Delta as well. Shittiest flight I ever took was from San Diego to Salt Lake City where I had a stop over. I changed airlines in Salt Lake City. My knees were bruised from being jammed into the seat in front of me on the Delta flight, and while I am tall I am not an NBA basketball player or anything. And there was basically NO service on the flight. I will never fly Delta again.

    4. Re:Delta is perhaps by samkass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's actually surprisingly hard to weed out the morons. It's especially hard to weed out the seemingly normal people who will go bonkers on you down the line. Interviewing well is one of the most difficult (and important) thing a company can possibly do, IMHO.

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    5. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This has nothing to do with running a company like Redhat. Listen, there are a lot of smart people; some people can run companies. Some people can not, no matter how smart or well they interview. Based on Delta's performance and general customer service, there is NO WAY I feel comfortable having the COO from Delta running Redhat. There is simply no confidence in that hire, NONE. Now you may say, well Delta was an airline so the customers of Redhat are different and you'd be right. However, if as COO he couldn't get delta's customer service right what makes you think he'll be able to handle the demanding needs and vision a company like Redhat needs for its own customers? How hard is it to put a customer on a plane, put their luggage on the plane, barring mother nature getting them from point A to point B with some semblance of time. How hard is it to setup a program by which your employees adhere to a code of conduct? Why wasn't it done; if at the end of the day it amounts to money, that's still a telling degree of what's to come. You're free to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but I sure as hell will not.

    6. Re:Delta is perhaps by wizardforce · · Score: 1

      he can sink a ship if he steers them into an "iceberg" or for that matter "doesn't know there is an iceberg" like the titanic.

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    7. Re:Delta is perhaps by explosivejared · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's actually surprisingly hard to weed out the morons

      /. moderation seems to do it pretty well. (glances at most recent YRO comments).... oh wait... nevermind.

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    8. Re:Delta is perhaps by kcbrown · · Score: 1

      Dude, the article indicates that the everybody who interviewed him was impressed.

      Yeah, well, the article doesn't indicate who interviewed him, so this "everybody who interviewed him was impressed" statement doesn't necessarily carry much weight.

      I'm going to reserve judgment here until we see what this guy actually does, but it's folly to ignore past results, particularly if they're associated with the very thing the guy will be responsible for in his new role.

      Since RedHat is apparently rather successful thus far, it seems like it would be a better move to recruit from within (as long as you promote the most competent people, not the least).

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    9. Re:Delta is perhaps by colourmyeyes · · Score: 2, Funny

      See my sig.

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    10. Re:Delta is perhaps by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      Yeah, well, the article doesn't indicate who interviewed him, so this "everybody who interviewed him was impressed" statement doesn't necessarily carry much weight.

      Yeah, I think at RedHat, candidates for the CEO position are interviewed by a panel of gardener, janitor, and head of cleaning personnel.

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    11. Re:Delta is perhaps by rsidd · · Score: 1

      the worst Airline i've ever traveled on

      I don't think they're worse than any other US-based airline. From what I've heard, Northwest is by far the worst, but the rest of them rank pretty close (I've only flown Delta, AA, US Airways). Airlines in Europe and Asia are orders of magnitude better.

    12. Re:Delta is perhaps by testadicazzo · · Score: 1
      This is getting a bit off-topic, but Delta can't compete with Air-Tran for chronically bad service. My experience with Air-Tran was so horrible I can't bring myself to tell the whole story. But, I will say that my crappy experience seemed to be the norm, as opposed to being an unlucky extreme. I had to stand in line waiting 3 hours to reschedule my connecting flight, since they had overbooked. The line never got shorter. As I watched, new people populated the line at about the same rate, or greater, than the poor customer service agents could handle. And that wasn't even the crappy part about my experience with them: dishonest service, destroyed and lost luggage (yes both), unfriendly and downright problematic (not to mention stupid) check-in staff. God I get angry just thinking about it. Delta's got their shit together by comparison.

    13. Re:Delta is perhaps by Angostura · · Score: 1

      To regain your sense of perspective, I suggest you try Continental. /bleugh.

    14. Re:Delta is perhaps by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Finding decent staff is damn hard at any level - because at every level you have timewasters, fools, people who are applying for something they're way underqualified for, people who are applying for something they're way overqualified for and former HP executives.

      Out of that list of people you really don't want to hire, a certain number can probably bluff their way through the interview process. Every company of any decent size has hired at least a few staff who they've wished they didn't.

    15. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah dude, they did check his pockets. But all they found were knives and lint..

    16. Re:Delta is perhaps by geeper · · Score: 0

      One man can't sink a ship
      Hmmmph...I beg to differ. George Bush -> US (sunk)

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    17. Re:Delta is perhaps by slartibart · · Score: 1

      I don't know, I am not sure how much Delta's poor service reflects on the COO. First of all, the airline industry is extremely competitive. A lot of air travelers are willing to put up with poor service in return for cheaper tickets. So cutting costs on service isn't a bad business move.

      Second, just because cheaping out on service was the strategy at Delta, doesn't mean that's going to be the strategy at Red Hat. I think the guy would have to be a moron not to realize that service is Red Hat's bread and butter. At Delta, service is secondary to getting a traveler from point A to B at minimum cost. Let's give the guy a little credit.

    18. Re:Delta is perhaps by locnar42 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think at RedHat, candidates for the CEO position are interviewed by a panel of gardener, janitor, and head of cleaning personnel. It's the open source way!
    19. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be worse:

      He could be a former Microsoft Executive!

    20. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's actually surprisingly hard to weed out the morons. It's especially hard to weed out the seemingly normal people who will go bonkers on you down the line. Interviewing well is one of the most difficult (and important) thing a company can possibly do, IMHO

      Exactly, so how do you solve the problem of morons in upper management? You hire people at lower levels and promote from within. Hopefully, if the company is currently run well, then it will continue because they morons wont progress. When morons propagate to upper management (or are hired in) the whole company gets screwed. The problem with promotion from within is you oftentimes have to promote the talent over the seniority, which causes internal problems.


    21. Re:Delta is perhaps by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Almost every large service-oriented company has fully dedicated websites dedicated to whiners... Mine has 3, including a yahoo group...

      Even then, the whiners don't ammount to even .05% of the customer base

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    22. Re:Delta is perhaps by asuffield · · Score: 1

      One man can't sink a ship.


      Maybe not, but Carly Fiorina recently proved that one woman can turn the ship into a colossal mess that it may never recover from.
    23. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully someone checked to make sure he doesn't spend time posting on slashdot.

    24. Re:Delta is perhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine has parents that work for Delta. He gets free flights anywhere he wants. Any time he wants. He hates them, but it's too good a deal to pass up.

  8. Release the haters by pembo13 · · Score: 1

    I can just feel the energy as RedHat hatters relish the words that they are soon to release upon Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Release the haters by Misanthrope · · Score: 1

      Why is Red Hat like a writing desk?

    2. Re:Release the haters by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hatters? Yes, Yes all of our haberdashers are always very excited about any story mentioning stylish hattery.

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    3. Re:Release the haters by FudRucker · · Score: 2

      hate Redhat? no, i can not hate Redhat, Redhat-7.1 was my first taste of Linux, i thought it was the greatest thing since the invention of the lightbulb, or peanutbutter & sliced bread (you get my point), by the time Redhat-7.3 was released i seen Redhat was targeting a different audience than what i was, Redhat seemed more interested in providing a product for businesses (enterprise & corporate desktops & servers), i was just a hobbyist that loved the PC, and grown tired of ms-windows vulnerabilities and other malware shenanigans (basically windows is a dirty racket), so i start hunting for a distro to call home and found Slackware, been a happy slacker ever since = has excellent out of the box development tools making it easy to rebuild & install a customized vanilla kernel & just about any other application i desire to rebuild, makes a great audio/video & graphics desktop/workstation for me, whew! glad i did not have to blow a couple of grand on a Macintosh...

      - my other brain doesn't know good spelling and grammar either...

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    4. Re:Release the haters by Dr.+Smoove · · Score: 1

      Are you really comparing a slackware PC to a Mac? Apples and Chickens man... and Slackware is a PITA sometimes (I used it from 7.0 to 10). You're right in that it's perfect pretty much for someone who likes to tinker and mess around with Linux and their computer, but in terms of general usability it's not that great.

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    5. Re:Release the haters by FudRucker · · Score: 1

      RE:["If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind."]

      no! if you plant ice you get Popsicles...

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    6. Re:Release the haters by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Once you have your workflow set up the way you want it, there's little difference between a linux box and a mac box. Especially in the case of a DAW like the parent said. Now getting a linux box set up right might be more work. But getting a mac box set up the way you want it can be a pain too, unless you do everything "The Apple Way (TM)"

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  9. Airline? by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The former head of an airline to take over the reigns at ???.... that makes about as much sense as letting the former head of an airline take over the reigns at .

    Oh... wait...

    1. Re:Airline? by dosius · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or the former head of a soda company taking over the CEO role at a computer manufacturer...oh wait...

      -uso.

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    2. Re:Airline? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, the good news is that the new guy is expected to be great at controlling costs. The bad news is that now all of your packets will have a stopover in Atlanta.

    3. Re:Airline? by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Depends on whether you want something that crashes. If you do, an airline exec would be the ideal choice.

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    4. Re:Airline? by Plutonite · · Score: 4, Funny

      -I just hope my processes don't get scheduling like Delta flights.

      -It would be awesome if Fedora gets renamed to Redhat Linux Economy Edition.

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      1)Allow more packets to be sent than you can possibly handle
      2)Delay said packets citing bad network conditions
      3)????
      4)Profit! ...etc..etc

    5. Re:Airline? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just hope my processes don't get scheduling like Delta flights. Seriously. Did a three week business trip through Lyon and Hamburg a few years ago on Delta+Air France. They have some sort of partnership. Every single flight of the 8 involved was late and bags were lost in de Gaulle and some little US airport. Total nightmare. Anyhow, that was my first thought when I read about this former Delta COO.

      The fate of Linux is not in the hands of RedHat. I'm running Linux exclusively on my personal and work machines. Windows is relegated to a various VMs. Not one box is running a RedHat distribution. On the other hand, going by recent stats no other Linux vendor contributes as many Kernel man hours as RedHat, so I wish them the best. If I needed to provision a large production machine RedHat is still my first choice. That's their focus and they do it well.

      James, the moment you begin to think of your developers as a 'cost center' it's time to go run some other company.

    6. Re:Airline? by spyowl · · Score: 1

      4)Profit! ...etc..etc
      This is where most of the airline industry separates itself from the pack. What you really meant was:

      4) Lose money, declare bankruptcy, and beg government for free money, tax breaks, and subsidies! ...etc..etc

    7. Re:Airline? by seanadams.com · · Score: 1

      Or the former head of a soda company taking over the CEO role at a computer manufacturer...oh wait...

      Not sure what you meant by the "oh wait". That was John Sculley, not Steve Jobs, and by the time he left in 1993 he had brought the company to its knees.

    8. Re:Airline? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or RedHat Enterprise Edition becomes RedHat Business Class Edition...

    9. Re:Airline? by websitebroke · · Score: 1

      Actually, the safety record of airlines overall is incredibly good. Do you know anyone who has been in an airline crash? Compare that number to the number of people you know who have been in an automobile crash.

    10. Re:Airline? by mounthood · · Score: 1

      Packets must remove any frame footers before boarding.

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    11. Re:Airline? by MBCook · · Score: 1

      If only they had hired the guy from Coke.

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  10. Old Discussion by Khakionion · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's funny reading the old discussion about the CEO's ascension...

    "More Alpha support!" "YellowDog is good enough for PPC!" "Alpha users need to band together!"

    Heh.

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  11. Re:4 versions of Linux by cumin · · Score: 2, Funny

    one of my co-workers who did told me that Jim mentioned that he runs Fedora on one of his computers, and is very much a Linux user. This brought a smile to my face.

    No wait, what?!? You're kidding right? The idea that the new CEO might not be a Linux user, or might not run Red Hat software is so plausible that the confirmation that he is a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? Would they consider putting someone in that position who was "a Mac user" or "a Windows user" or even "sometimes uses Linux?"

    I know very little about Jim, but geez, the idea that it could be any other way makes me shudder to think.

    Yes. I shudder when I think. I think it is a venereal disease I got from fsking a penguin.

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  12. Not just any airline, the corp parent of Comair by RCSInfo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Remember when this happened? Interesting choice bringing in a manager whose company experienced a very publicized computer crash during his tenure. Hopefully Mr. Whitehurst carries forward some of the lessons learned from that experience.

    1. Re:Not just any airline, the corp parent of Comair by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Remember when this happened? Interesting choice bringing in a manager whose company experienced a very publicized computer crash during his tenure. Hopefully Mr. Whitehurst carries forward some of the lessons learned from that experience.

      Probably was the sysadmins' fault. Oh wait, this is slashdot, it's never the sysadmin, you always blame the highest level non-technical executive.

  13. Some insight into Matthew Szulik by suso · · Score: 0

    Actually, this is a good question. I'm a bit worried because Matthew is a "Linux person". I had the chance to meet him when he come to Bloomington and he has been with Red Hat since the mid 90s and has been a Linux user all this time. I doubt the same could be said for the Delta guy, but maybe not?

    I imagine that it really is family reasons. That's too bad. He was really leading the company into global markets and was meeting with some very important people around the world.

    1. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, this is a good question. I'm a bit worried because Matthew is a "Linux person". I had the chance to meet him when he come to Bloomington and he has been with Red Hat since the mid 90s and has been a Linux user all this time. I doubt the same could be said for the Delta guy, but maybe not? Bringing in somebody who is not only has no open source credentials but no tech credentials at all? You can tell me all the head and shoulders stories you like, but this amounts to nothing more than another step in Red Hat losing the plot. The slide started years ago, however the rapid expansion of the Linux server market tended to keep Red Hat's missteps from translating immediately into poor financial performance. Now it is way too obvious to ignore. If you think for a moment I am sure you will remember a few of the more egregious community relations fiascos, hostile takeovers of community projects, burning the desktop community, etc. It is just those self inflicted wounds that are hurting Red Hat now, and what do they do? Bring in an airlines guy. Sheesh. It shows you just how far Red Hat management has drifted from reality. Remember the Pepsicola guy who ran Apple into the ground.
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    2. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by hdparm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You, Sir, clearly have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about.

      One of the major reasons why Red Hat will soon become $1Bn+ revenue company is the fact that they invested so much into community through Fedora Project. Everybody and their dog bitch about RH product line discontinuation, forgetting that the code base has been split into two superior products, unparalleled in the Linux world. Slowly but steadily Fedora has largely been put back to community care. Community that has learned A LOT from Red Hat and gave back enormous amount of code improvements to various upstream projects. CentOS is there, too - another proof of how much Red Hat Inc. actually care.

      They know what they are doing. If they say that James Whitehurst is culturally good fit, I believe them.

    3. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of the major reasons why Red Hat will soon become $1Bn+ revenue company is the fact that they invested so much into community through Fedora Project. Everybody and their dog bitch about RH product line discontinuation, forgetting that the code base has been split into two superior products, unparalleled in the Linux world. Slowly but steadily Fedora has largely been put back to community care Oh really? Red Hat appoints five members of the fedora board and only 4 are elected, assuring Red Hat of complete control over the project. Community, bah.

      CentOS is there, too - another proof of how much Red Hat Inc. actually care. Why do you suppose CentOS would exist if Fedora is the be all and end all of community projects? Oh right, CentOS is not controlled by Red Hat.

      They know what they are doing. If they say that James Whitehurst is culturally good fit, I believe them. Highly skeptical that an airline exec can learn the open source business. What Red Hat needs is somebody who can go play with the community. Now there is the claim he runs Linux and was once a programmer, OK, that is tech credentials of sorts. A far cry from participating in a tech organization or having a clue how the community off which Red Hat feeds works and works together. Who is going to teach him that? Matt? No sir. Matt is basically not there with the community. A few speeches, platitudes, lots of talk, very little walk. Has a bad habit of hiring managers with no open source credentials whatsoever, who busy themselves with laying waste to whatever community spirit Red Hat once had.
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    4. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh really? Red Hat appoints five members of the fedora board and only 4 are elected, assuring Red Hat of complete control over the project. Community, bah. Red Hat hire good people. They by and large hire *from the community*, the ones passionate about it. And they back it all up with paid developer time.

      Which Fedora board member in particular, or which block-vote they've made, do you object to?
    5. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Red Hat hire good people. They by and large hire *from the community*, the ones passionate about it. And they back it all up with paid developer time. Red Hat is a revolving door for community people. A few stick, many find the dysfunctional management just too much to take.
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    6. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      Why do you suppose CentOS would exist if Fedora is the be all and end all of community projects? Oh right, CentOS is not controlled by Red Hat.


      Um, too completely different goals? Fedora is cutting (sometimes bleeding) edge, CentOS/RHEL is conservative with a long support cycle.
    7. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by module0000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Red Hat is a revolving door for community people. A few stick, many find the dysfunctional management just too much to take. Do you work for Red Hat?

      Obviously you have a boulder-sized chip on your shoulder about them, and lots of opinions about their inner workings.

      Either (a) you work for them and have an issue. Or (b) you don't work for them and are a FUD spreading dipshit.
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    8. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Red Hat needs is somebody who can go play with the community.

      I want a CEO that can execute and grow the company. "Playing with the community" might get you some praise on usenet but it isn't going to be a blockbuster.

    9. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say a lot of things about Red Hat.

      You provide nothing in the form of checkable facts to allow for everyone else to find out whether those things which you are saying are actually true or not.

      In other words - references, or STFU.

      Please.

    10. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you suppose CentOS would exist if Fedora is the be all and end all of community projects?

      Because the purpose and goals of CentOS (and the other RHEL rebuilding projects) are different than those of Fedora.

      If you're going to continue spouting your crap you would do better in getting at least one fact straight in each post.

      Based on your latest posts I'd venture a guess that you're just trolling. In any case, my response to you has to be a resounding "meh".

      Go away, please. You're contributing nothing. Really.
    11. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      I want a CEO that can execute and grow the company. "Playing with the community" might get you some praise on usenet but it isn't going to be a blockbuster. Execute and grow while giving the cold shoulder to the community they depend on? Which is what you mean by not playing with the community I think. Certain death for and open source company. "Don't bite the hand that feeds you."
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    12. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      Um, too completely different goals? Fedora is cutting (sometimes bleeding) edge, CentOS/RHEL is conservative with a long support cycle. And if Fedora were really a community project then it most certainly would have a stable branch, which is exactly what CentOS is. But Red Hat controls Fedora, so Fedora will never have a stable branch, so the community built the CentOS project which is not controlled by Red Hat. See?
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    13. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      In other words - references, or STFU Ha ha, that is funny coming from an anonymous coward.
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    14. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by pravuil · · Score: 1

      Highly skeptical that an airline exec can learn the open source business. What Red Hat needs is somebody who can go play with the community. Now there is the claim he runs Linux and was once a programmer, OK, that is tech credentials of sorts. A far cry from participating in a tech organization or having a clue how the community off which Red Hat feeds works and works together. Who is going to teach him that? Matt? No sir. Matt is basically not there with the community. A few speeches, platitudes, lots of talk, very little walk. Has a bad habit of hiring managers with no open source credentials whatsoever, who busy themselves with laying waste to whatever community spirit Red Hat once had.

      I would mod you up for this comment alone if I hadn't used up all my points. It would've been nice if someone with open source credentials would've been put into that position. Hell, it would've been nice if someone with patent law experience would've been put into that position. While his background is impressive, I do have concerns about any shift of power involving the patents behind the Linux community. Linux could benefit from a dedicated strategist and I suspect it will help out but at the same time his intent has to be consistent to what the community has been founded on. Otherwise the community will end up spending too much time educating than producing. Outside of my concern, he does impress me and depending on who works along side of him, something interesting might come out of this.
    15. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by pravuil · · Score: 1

      Can't go on faith alone but his background is impressive. You have to question things to educate yourself about changes that can effect people.

      investing.businessweek.com

      Do some research on the past 3 years with Delta and it does show somewhat a positive revue of his involvement with that company. Like I said, I'm impressed.

      I've always had a positive view of Red Hat. They were consistent when it came to how they handled their updates. All in all Red Hat has done a lot for the community and they have been extremely consistent. They can be slow at times but IMHO they are the most consistent, fastest and stable Linux distro out there. They even stood firm with their convictions when the deal between MS and Novell went down. All around these guys have done more for Linux than any distro out there. It sounds like flamebait, especially here on /. but it's what I believe, take it or leave it.

    16. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by hdparm · · Score: 1

      In other words - references, or STFU

      Here, is that better?

    17. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      Here, is that better? Oh sure, an anonymous nick in place of a real name. Hint: my name is real, so are the names of quite a parade of developers who have left Red Hat to join companies with more of a clue about what the open source community is all about.
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    18. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      There was a long term support project for Fedora once upon a time - the Fedora Legacy project. The reason that dwindled and CentOS has thrived is the short release cycle of Fedora is suited where stability and testing take a back seat to features. Simple as that.

      And how the hell is CentOS more a community project than Fedora? The entire goal is to produce an exact replica of Red Hat Enterprise, which has no direct community involvement. Fedora, on the other hand, has more packages maintained by the community than by Red Hat employees.

    19. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      how the hell is CentOS more a community project than Fedora? The entire goal is to produce an exact replica of Red Hat Enterprise, which has no direct community involvement. Fedora, on the other hand, has more packages maintained by the community than by Red Hat employees. One simple reason: Red Hat controls the board of the Fedora project. If Red Hat really believed in community it would let the community control the project. But Red Hat will never do that I assure you, because Red Hat at heart does not trust the community. In the long run, that is just too bad for Red Hat.
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    20. Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      Outside of my concern, he does impress me and depending on who works along side of him, something interesting might come out of this. Oh, I am impressed by the little scraps of information I have seen about him. I just am highly skeptical that an open source outsider is the right choice for CEO of a company that makes its living peddling support contracts for software developed by the open source community.

      Matt himself is an outsider, he was brought in to develop a monetization model and build Red Hat as a sales organization, which he did remarkably well. Red Hat is a fine sales organization, no doubt about it, and the certification model on which Red Hat depends is pure genius. But that in itself is not enough to ensure long term success. Red Hat has to worry about its supply lines, and those supply lines are increasingly becoming alienated by and irritated with Red Hat. This has not hit Red Hat's bottom line yet, but it will.
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  14. Re: Euphemisms by jamesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, so in the world of corporate euphemisms, that means what?

    Or maybe it means family health reasons... it's always hard to tell.
  15. Re: Euphemisms by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seeing as he plans to remain chairman of the board, that seems doubtful

  16. 5 posts and no reigns-REINS correction yet? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    5 posts and no reigns-REINS correction yet? Yeesh.

    Seriously, though, can someone translate Szulik's last little bit of CEO-speak for me?

    "When there is zero expectation of financial remuneration, everything is Hollywood."

  17. Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm speaking as somebody who saw how close-up how the executive level worked at Red Hat for two years. I saw a lot of bad decisions that were made systematically, dooming Red Hat to a mere niche in the software market.

    Red Hat passed up a lot of opportunities, all to satisfy the MBAs and their cronies who took over during Szulik's reign and eased out the founding generation. The problem was that the company became obsessed by meeting financial goals in the short term instead of using their good will and war chest to make deeper, longer term plays to become open source providers for every major software category. Hal Covert (briefly Red Hat CFO) understood this, and Szulik punted him - Covert was probably Red Hat's last chance for greatness.

    That's the reason that their stock price has been stagnant for four years - because Red Hat became a predictable, by-the-numbers company that was incapable of making the kind of bold moves that (for example) Google makes. Because he behaved like an accountant instead of an entrepreneur, Szulik squandered Red Hat's future just to find a stable financial base for the present. Worse, he did it at a time when the market was forgiving long term plays left and right, even after the 2000 tech crash. His leaving is about 6 years too late, Red Hat could have been a software giant bringing open source methodology to the entire industry, instead of a mere provider of support for enterprise Linux.

    1. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So glad to see you have an internet connection, Mr. Covert! And a computer, too! Or are you at the local library?

    2. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this should be +5 as its the only real info I've found here...

      I agree he should have left a long time ago, During his reign Redhat died

    3. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snork. Somehow I think that Hal Covert is busy enough at Silicon Image.

    4. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked there in the transition to profitability, and from my POV, hats off to Szulik. Not only has he made Red Hat profitable, and the market leader - he is also a very nice guy to deal with, and a good sport. "If we raise more money than this for Toys for Tots, I'll shave off all for my hair". We did, and he did :) He also always remembered who everyone were, and was good at showing that he cared for engineering.

      Being all things to everyone is something that, while it might sound like a bold move, deprives you of the possibility of focus on delivering something good to someone. You have to prioritize, and follow through on your business vision - and for Red Hat, that is about opensource. And that vision was followed through to profit, even though it means that one couldn't accomodate markets that thought non-free video drivers and patented MP3 codecs were more important than those ideals.

      Good luck in your future, Matthew.

    5. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm speaking as somebody who has been at Red Hat for over seven years and saw first hand how Hal "We Should Use Windows for day-to-day operations" Covert was the wrong choice for Red Hat.

      Seeing as how Hal left his next company, sgi, way worse than he left it, after barely lasting a year, the majority of Red Hat people say good riddance to him.

      All executives make mistakes, and MJS has made a few. But his successes far outweigh his mistakes. By choosing Hal leaving as an example of a mistake, you've shot your credibility.

    6. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not the GP, but I was at Red Hat for the period under discussion. What you're talking about was a popular distortion of what Hal said. I was in the room... he never seriously advocated Red Hat using Windows for day to day operations, he said that it was a disgrace that Red Hat was unable to handle documents sent to him by Wall Street analysts before the earnings conference call. If it took having machines running Windows here and there until Linux had a viable solution, so be it.

      And he was absolutely right. Real grown-up businesses can't afford to pretend that much of the world doesn't run Windows and Red Hat didn't do anybody any favors by highlighting their inability to read Word and Excel documents (in 2000) in view of the entire world. I'll remind you that for that entire period, Red Hat's profit did NOT come from Linux, but instead from embedded compiler contracts that came with the acquisition of Cygnus. Those contracts were allowed to wither in favor of more Linux-oriented business directions.

      I wouldn't say that Hal was the best voice that Red Hat rejected, but he brought a reality check to the company that it would have benefitted from. As for SGI... nobody, not even Steve Jobs, could have fixed SGI... but it does reflect badly upon Hal that he didn't know that. I'd reserve that instead for the bevy of experienced voices that Red Hat got in strategic acquisitions and hires (like a certain VP of Product Management as one outstanding example) and then proceeded to thoroughly ignore. Matt Szulik could never see a world beyond Linux and got Red Hat to shoot itself in the foot time and time again as a result.

      The GP is right, Wall Street noticed and punished RHAT/RHT by giving the stock no permanent gains for four years while the rest of the tech sector has flourished. In the grown-up world, that's an objective failure. While people who got their shares for cheap might have loved him for the gift, Szulik failed the shareholders who placed their faith in Red Hat by putting real money into its stock. That's simply indisputable.

    7. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hard line that MJS took in the beginning was critical for its culture. You had hundreds of resumes per day from mid-level VPs looking to score a buck in options from this new "open source gimmick."

      Had Red Hat compromised and compromised in 1999 and 2000, Red Hat would be what Novell/SuSE is today. Watered down. Uninspired. Bland. And not credible as a leader of Linux and OSS.

    8. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't agree with everything said here, but it's really notable that RHT didn't lose any ground with this announcement and increased evenly with the rest of the tech sector (which is better than it's done in the last four years) - Wall Street will punish a stock when a valuable executive announces their departure.

      This little thread has gotten some attention from the Exhatter list and the general consensus seems to be, "what a relief. Maybe my shares will actually increase in value now." But then, we have families to support and futures to plan instead of a holy crusade to lose and Koolaid to drink. Even people still working within Red Hat outside of Tech Triangle comment that RDU has its own weird cult mentality. They can't hear anything that isn't said between Raleigh and Durham. They trust developers to know something about coding, but don't trust business people to know something about strategic planning.

      The Open Source methodology has always most needed to prove itself as a viable business model in order to become the default operating mode in the software industry - new entrepreneurs need to know that they can go OSS and not lose their homes, their investments. They need to be able to get investors to put their trust in this business model. While Hal Covert might have been valuable in the "trust" part, I never really got the sense that he saw OSS istelf as a disruptive technology instead of a passing fad. Many others at Red Hat did share this view but they were, time and time again, discarded in focusing on Linux. It's a shame.

      Red Hat (and in its way, Netscape) have failed OSS by showing that at best you end up with a unique company operating in a highly specific individual niche. Bravo, for winning the battle and losing the war - for proving to the business world (at least for the next decade) that OSS is a weird Linux thing and not useful to people starting software businesses.

    9. Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny - we see a lot of Red Hat linux developers saying that MJS has been great, but nobody who was involved in business planning at the time (or indeed, if you sit down and talk to them in private, the business people who were there from the founding of Red Hat) thinks he was very good - and it's business planning where Red Hat failed miserably. What you describe was not in fact the choice that was made - no resources, no people, would have been taken away from Linux. Money would have been taken away from Red Hat's investments. Money that isn't doing anything but sitting there - Wall Street doesn't view income from investments as anything important, they're already normalized to general investment.

      I'm guessing that you don't know much about accounting. The problem is that if a company spends money on long term projects, it shows a short term loss on its balance sheet and quarterly reports to Wall Street but makes more money in the long run. Because of the way Wall Street works, for a certain kind of company they only care about short term profits - for others, they understand that the business is in the growth phase and is not expected to turn a profit. Red Hat made a conscious choice to go from growth to profitable and therefore decided to strangle any long term projects that couldn't show immediate return - ironically they did this to support the stock price in 2000 and 2001, and then because they had killed the long term projects the stock stopped doing anything afterwards. When you change to profitability as a strategy, you essentially freeze the size of the company to a very low rate of growth compared to a growth company.

      A lot of this is the result political battle between two men - of whom I am neither - who represented the different views of the company. The one who was there at the company's founding (and wanted to continue the growth) lost and left to work on other community projects with other Red Hat founders. He never really had a chance - the Venture Capitalists behind Red Hat's IPO wanted nothing except a short term stable stock price so that they could collect their profits and leave, VCs are opportunists focused only on relatively short term exit strategies compared to the life of a business.

      That, not the departure of Hal Covert, is what I would mark as the point where Red Hat doomed itself to mediocrity. Make no mistake - the business has been miserably mediocre by all objective business measurements, so the only question is "where did they go wrong," not "did they go wrong."

  18. Re:4 versions of Linux by spevack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No wait, what?!? You're kidding right? The idea that the new CEO might not be a Linux user, or might not run Red Hat software is so plausible that the confirmation that he is a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? Would they consider putting someone in that position who was "a Mac user" or "a Windows user" or even "sometimes uses Linux?"

    Seeing as you are commenting on my blog post, let me concur with you:

    *I* think it would be insane to hire someone to be Red Hat's CEO who isn't a Linux user. But I am just one Red Hat employee. Keep in mind the perspective -- shock that the CEO of your company is stepping down, and sadness because he's a great leader who everyone respects. So hearing "not only is the new guy a Linux user, but he knows and uses Fedora" would make you smile at that moment.

    That is all.

  19. a good man by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I worked for Red Hat from 2001-2004, and I will say that Matthew Szulik is a good man. He is one of those types that remembers everyone in the room, and remembers your name even though you haven't spoken to him for weeks or months. It was a crazy time, taking the company through the transition from start-up to 'real' company. His emails were sometimes non-sequitir stream of conciousness things, but at other times were very visionary and helpful.

    It was great to work for a company where everyone felt they were on a mission-- good times, good times.

    Good Luck, Mr Szulik.

    1. Re:a good man by bondjamesbond · · Score: 0

      ...and why did you leave?

    2. Re:a good man by davejenkins · · Score: 1

      why did i leave?

      I was in Korea, having just hired a new country manager for there, and having finished my assignments for helping to shepherd the deals with the Asian hardware manufacturers. There wasn't that much work, and the company was downsizing its consulting group-- so we separated. It was amicable.

  20. Re: Euphemisms by darkrowan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always understood 'Family Reasons' to mean he wanted to quit, and 'To explore other opportunities' was 'don't let the door hit you on the ass'.

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  21. Re:4 versions of Linux by Bruzer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? I disagree with you and think it IS noteworthy, and of special interest to the Slashdot audience.

    Many CEOs appear more like lawyers or salesmen/women. They may be very smart, but don't strike me as technical minded.

    Running 4 different distributions of Linux implies a fair bit of technical knowledge, more than Windows and Mac usage. I find that I use more console commands in Linux than the other operating systems, and to know those commands requires reading man pages or other documentation, something that the average user may not do.

    Each distribution of Linux can have different configuration commands and nuances. You may know how to configure the sound card on one distribution but another distribution can be totally different.

    Linux comes pre-installed on only a few PCs, and I am going to assume the four systems didn't come with Linux. Most of the time you have to install and often configure it which is (and lets be honest) can be more difficult than Windows or Mac OS.

    The bottom line is I don't know of many CEO type people that use Linux at home. I don't think the CEO of my company could do anything productive with Linux without significant help from technical staff, much less install and configure it at home for personal use.

    I think the CEO candidate of a Linux company using Linux at home is noteworthy, relevant, and interesting.
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  22. Re:4 versions of Linux by WestCoastJTF · · Score: 5, Funny

    He probably can't afford RHES even with his employee discount.

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  23. The next version of Red Hat ... by DraconPern · · Score: 3, Funny

    The next version of Red Hat Linux will ...
    - No longer come with any entertaiment software.
    - Have nice icons and background that cost extra, and
    - Be delayed from original release date because...
    - there will be a major restructuring, while
    - all the programmers go on strike.

  24. Chuck Norris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chuck Norris doesn't run four versions of Linux at home.

    All versions of Linux run from Chuck Norris.

  25. Might be a good thing... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    Bringing in talent from outside your industry has worked quite well in the past..

    Lest you forget what IBM did in 1993, by bringing in a former CEO of AMEX and RJR Nabisco.. http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/biography/10153.wss I wouldn't mind seeing RedHat duplicating IBM's turnaround, and becoming a $150B company.

  26. Re: Euphemisms by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 0

    Nothing hidden here I dont think. profits are up 12% this quarter per usual This company really has its stuff together IMO i hope it continues to without Szulik who was a big reason for the companys direction.

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  27. Crook by Newton+IV · · Score: 1

    The translation of Szulik from Russian is "crook" In Soviet Russia, ...

    1. Re:Crook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Russians think Sulik is that guy with sledge hammer & grampy bone from Fallout 2.

  28. Here's hoping by Allnighterking · · Score: 1

    Here's hoping he can do for Red Hat what he did for Delta. No, wait, that didn't come out right

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  29. Some of the greats by mcrbids · · Score: 1

    Another great guy from Red Hat is Bob Young who went on to start LULU.com. This guy really groks the whole "open source" thing. Since I've built my million-dollar business on the back of RedHat Linux, I can say with complete honesty, I really appreciate their efforts!

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    1. Re:Some of the greats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does he? How much of lulu is open sourced? What about the lulu.tv layoffs?

  30. Re: Euphemisms by kripkenstein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, so in the world of corporate euphemisms, that means what? The board isn't happy with him why? Seeing as he plans to remain chairman of the board, that seems doubtful Mod parent up.

    Indeed, if 'family health reasons' was a euphemism for something, he wouldn't be left on the board, especially not as chairman. No, it looks like this is exactly what it appears to be: Szulik has a family member with health issues that require Szulik's full attention. This is presumably a very sad and difficult situation, one that we wouldn't wish on anyone.

    The only consolation, and a very partial one at that, is that Szulik has the financial means to indeed leave his job and devote himself to doing his best for his family.
  31. Nano rocks! by furbearntrout · · Score: 1

    Nano has a very discoverable interface. With the other terminal mode editors, you have to go through the docs, etc;just to save (or even edit) the file you're working on. In nano the necessary shortcuts ar right there on the status line. It saved from having to reinstall windows and just give up on this "free software" stuff, more than once. I still haven't got the key bindings for emacs or vi down yet.

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    1. Re:Nano rocks! by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny

      The only thing you need to learn in Emacs is C-h C-h (hold down the control key and tap 'h' twice).
      The uber-help menu will take you where you need to go.
      When befuddled, M-x doctor (Alt-x, then type 'doctor' in the mini-buffer) will call up Eliza, the built-in doctor.
      Can't confirm if this is really Dr. Eliza Spaceman (spuh-chay-man), the parent of Dr. Leo Spaceman on 30 Rock, but it is fun to speculate.
      With service like this, how can these pagan infidels denigrate the Esteemed Mother Amongst Computer Software?

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  32. Nope... It means that... by CptnHarlock · · Score: 1

    ...after all these years he still can't find his sister and her health is detiriorating. I hear she's supposedly somewhere around the Den though. Well, good luck Sulik!

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  33. This is a masterstroke! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the one thing that Open Source needs to take over the world sooner rather than later? Government funding. And what is the *one* thing that airline bigwigs are good at? Getting government funding (in the form of bailouts, etc.). Even Microsoft's budget is dwarfed by the budget of the U.S. Federal Government!

  34. Re:4 versions of Linux by uncqual · · Score: 1

    A new CEO of RH using four versions of Linux at home is interesting. But, if I were an investor, I would prefer that he ran one or one version of Linux, a recent (preferably a server version) version of Windows, a recent version of Mac (ideally Leopard), a version of Open Solaris, and perhaps something out of the mainstream. RH's competitor is not other Linux version, it's Windows, Solaris, and perhaps AIX (and, on the desktop, perhaps Mac).

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  35. Re:4 versions of Linux by init100 · · Score: 1

    The bottom line is I don't know of many CEO type people that use Linux at home.

    Michael Dell?

  36. Re: Euphemisms by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, no, Red Hat revenue and profit are way up, 20% and 39% respectively, mea culpa. Somebody mod parent into oblivion please. Red Hat is still growing just fine.

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  37. How long has he run Linux at home ? by Builder · · Score: 1

    How long has he run Linux at home? Is this something that has been going on for years, or something that he got someone to install after his second interview? Context means a lot here!

    What about at work? How much Linux or other Open Source software has he worked with in his corporate life? That makes a big impact on seeing things from the customer's point of view.

    The one thing I'm really hoping is that he will bring fresh eyes to Red Hat and more focus on their core products instead of implementing $BUZZWORDOFTHEWEEK in each new release.

    As a company, they've become very bad at accepting criticism and taking feedback on issues. They also need to spend some time working on their installer and their command line tools.

    The fact that you can't do an LVM (or was it RAID?) install in text mode in one of the newer RHELs really bugged me. The fact that they told me the command line tools were not a focus and would never be able to do everything the GUI tools did just scared me witless. Apparently their corporate strategy is to sell you Satellite (at GBP8k + per seat licensing) and for you to manage your boxes through that, hence the lack of focus on command line tools.

    Contrast this with SLES where everything you can do in the GUI version of YAST2, you can do in the text version as well. Telling Solaris admins that they have to run X on their new Linux boxes to be able to use the config tools is NOT a good way to win them over!

    1. Re:How long has he run Linux at home ? by Dr.+Smoove · · Score: 1

      Good thing you can do everything from YAST via CLI, that god awful piece of shit gave me nightmares for months after using it once.

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  38. Delta? by master5o1 · · Score: 1

    didn't delta airlines go bust or something?

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  39. Re: Euphemisms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is grave news for an Operating System installed on the majority of the worlds Linux web servers, the OLPC, along with JBoss representing 25% (2005) of the Application Server market?

  40. Ah, great by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Funny

    his replacement will be former Delta Airlines COO James Whitehurst.

    Now that means all your cron jobs will run late and RedHat will stop giving out those little packages of peanuts.

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  41. Re:4 versions of Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No wait, what?!? You're kidding right? The idea that the new CEO might not be a Linux user, or might not run Red Hat software is so plausible that the confirmation that he is a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? Would they consider putting someone in that position who was "a Mac user" or "a Windows user" or even "sometimes uses Linux?" Because that's not his job. He's there to run the business not make the tech decisions. That's a completely different skillset.

    Now if the CTO didn't run Linux we'd have a problem.
  42. Re:4 versions of Linux by deragon · · Score: 1

    In an ideal world, I would agree with you. But finding a CEO which knows and make use of Linux must be practically impossible. If it wasn't for James Whitehurs, Red Hat would have a hard time finding someone else from the outside. Of course, you can always pick someone from the inside, but you reduce substantially the pool of people who have CEO qualities.

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  43. Re:4 versions of Linux by greenrd · · Score: 1

    Because that's not his job. He's there to run the business not make the tech decisions. That's a completely different skillset.

    Now if the CTO didn't run Linux we'd have a problem.

    But Red Hat's business is tech. If he didn't know anything about Linux or open source he'd be unsuited for the job. Risk of cultural mismatch, for one thing.

  44. Re:4 versions of Linux by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 1

    Red Hat is a business and is selling a product. What operating system the CEO runs is irrelevant as long as he knows how to market a product and keep a company afloat. In fact, maybe it would be a good thing to diversify Red Hat a little more and bring some of their enterprise products to other platforms like Windows and MacOS since the Linux market isn't really growing as fast as anyone had hoped. By embracing Windows and MacOS they could open new markets to their enterprise offerings.

  45. Re: Euphemisms by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's like in Socialist countries, where you could go from General Secretary of the Communist Party and Head of the Armed Forces, to General Secretary of the Communist Party, to Chairman of the People's Assembly, to Assistant Deputy Chair of the North Siberian Republic People's Assembly, to prisoner number 14856734 in People's Reformation Of Incorrect Thoughts Through Death Camp Number 8763, North Siberia.

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  46. Re:4 versions of Linux by Dr.+Smoove · · Score: 1

    And you probably can't afford a whopper with the employee discount?

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  47. Someone who's earned my respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In retrospect, Redhat has been a well run company and continues to do some impressive work. I think we're all better off because of some of the hard decisions Szulik made during his tenure as CEO. My initial thoughts when I read the headline were "what if we get some idiot who plays into MSFT patent-pact trap". Having RTFA, I'm confident that Whitehurst isn't an idiot.

  48. Re:4 versions of Linux by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

    Of course, you can always pick someone from the inside, but you reduce substantially the pool of people who have CEO qualities.

    The other problems with promoting from within are:

    1) You now have another job vacancy to fill, and presumably are losing someone very good at their job (otherwise, why promote them?)

    2) There will probably be resentment from his new subordinates who were his former peers. This can lead to people leaving, and sometimes can cause the new boss to overdo the 'alpha dog' thing as he tries to gain their respect/obedience.

    Of course, there can be advantages to an inside promotion, but one has to recognize the problems too.

  49. we want an I.T. person at the helm by unity100 · · Score: 1

    do i need to explain further ?

  50. Whoring oneself out for Linux by billcopc · · Score: 2, Funny

    "runs four versions of Linux at home"

    Oh yeah ? Well I run four versions of Windows and two Macs on top of my Linux! :P

    Seriously, web development is the worst job evar.

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  51. Delta's fired blogger by wikinerd · · Score: 1

    Do we talk about the same Delta Air Lines that once employed Ellen Simonetti, who was fired for material on her blog that the company found inappropriate? Of course this does not mean anything bad about their COO, but I would be interested to hear his opinion on the blogger's incident, if he has an opinion (however, it probably was an issue outside his area of work). Anyway. Good to know the new CEO is a GNU/Linux user, and I wish them well.

  52. Re:4 versions of Linux by Znork · · Score: 1

    "What operating system the CEO runs is irrelevant as long as he knows how to market a product and keep a company afloat."

    Of course, a Redhat CEO who didnt run Linux would most likely be utterly incapable of marketing to that segment, and thus fail to keep the company afloat. Witness the multitude of spectacular failures at various other companies.

    "In fact, maybe it would be a good thing to diversify"

    Yes, that would be an example of the kinds of errors that lead to spectacular failures. Redhats customers aren't Redhat customers because they want a generic blend of proprietary crapplications. They could get that from any number of other vendors.

  53. Re:4 versions of Linux by loconet · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is also worth noting he actually did his undergrad in Computer Science and Economics. MBA from Harvard, Linux user, not too shabby for the role.

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  54. Re:4 versions of Linux by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

    I think the CEO candidate of a Linux company using Linux at home is noteworthy, relevant, and interesting.

    It also gives you more credibility when dealing with other CEOs:

    Potential customer: I don't know. This all seems so complicated.
    Linux-using CEO: But it's not! I even use it at home!

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    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  55. Re: Euphemisms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I kinda find these statements kinda funny and kinda sad. A company that is growing slightly should just close up shop because its not good enough. A company should grow exponentially forever!

  56. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  57. Re:4 versions of Linux by lgarner · · Score: 1

    I agree more or less. I would be a little concerned as a shareholder that he uses 4 versions of Linux at home, since he's supposed to be the CEO and not a tech geek. The techies should do the engineering and development, the businessmen should run the business, and hopefully both know how to contribute and avoid interfering with the other.

    On the other hand, I don't think his OS choice is irrelevant since he's going to head up an OS company. He should be familiar with the product *as a user*. He should come into his new office, immediately log in to his RH desktop with access to all of his services on the RH servers. If he has a issue, he should call the internal help desk like a regular user.

    Of course, he should fire the first tech who answers a problem with "Just edit this file..."

  58. Re: Euphemisms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, my original post is a "troll" exactly how?

  59. Think of the money they could save... by Dareth · · Score: 1

    by removing one olive from each programmers lunch every day!

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  60. Next RH headline: by di0s · · Score: 1

    "Red Hat purchases Microsoft patent license"

    Anyone want to guess at the odds of that?

    1. Re:Next RH headline: by spevack · · Score: 1

      Zero, unless the new CEO wants to start his tenure with a mutiny in his engineering ranks.

  61. Not difficult to install by 5of0 · · Score: 1

    Most of the time you have to install and often configure it which is (and lets be honest) can be more difficult than Windows or Mac OS.
    I am being honest, and a few months ago I installed Windows XP and Ubuntu 6.10, both from CD's, onto a fresh hard drive. Now, I'm a realist and don't hesitate to point out Linux's problems, but the Ubuntu install went a whole heck of a lot easier than the XP install. XP was ugly (text-based initial install? What is this, Debian?) and required way too much driver hunting (initially, I had no sound, 256-color 800x600 resolution, and no wireless, maybe even no LAN). Ubuntu was GUI all the way, came up with a decent resolution, and recognized my wireless and sound right off. All I had to do was install 915resolution for my widescreen laptop - although if I remember right, that may have not been necessary this time around.
    Linux, or at least Ubuntu, is improving, and the "hard-to-install" myth is falling apart. If you haven't done an install recently, I'd give it a shot. And the myth that Windows XP is all flowers and rainbows to install isn't true either - if you actually install XP, not just do the little configuration-on-first-bootup routine on a computer with XP preinstalled, it's ugly.
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  62. It is never wise to make people forget you... by emil · · Score: 1

    ...and this is precisely what RedHat has done by dropping their open products.

    I use the closed, licensed server products from RedHat at work, but they are on none of my home systems, none of my friends' small business systems, and they are nowhere to be seen in my life outside of the corporate environment.

    Contributions aside, I can see how they could be completely forgotten by most of the Linux community, and this is precisely what they wanted.

    Add this to several unwise actions that many in the industry perceive as attacks, and I'm not so sure that the billion dollar market cap is feasible.

    I still own RedHat stock from the IPO, but Larry Ellison is going to figure out how to dissolve RedHat eventually. It may take time, because this style of game is new to him, but the fist of the giant will eventually fall.

  63. devil licks his chops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh goodie. Now will the next CEO suddenly have a boner for MS and sign a pact? Google the "new" **vell and **rel folks prior to MS dealings and the respective positive pacts.

  64. Redhat seems to have fallen of late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, he did a tremendous amount of good. But let's not forget the debacle that came after RH9. Sure, we've got Fedora now. But only after a large outcry against their switch in policy in going towards the Enterprise releases.

    Now, these releases have been pretty good. But the 5.0 release truly sucks in critical ways. Diskdump has been completely dropped, and the replacement (kexec/kdump) is completely broken on x86_64. If you're depending on RH for mission critical crash dumps on 64-bit machines, you are completely and totally screwed.

    Yes, I know, this is following the general kernel.org approach. But RedHat has their name on making Linux a success in the Commercial space here, and they are completely dropping the ball.

    It gets even worse with the 5.1 release. I just brought up a 5.1 kernel to try it out, and it immediately panic'd on booting. The e1000 driver of all things. This was trying to initialize the second NIC port, when there's no cable attached. C'mon, the e1000 driver is (or has been) superb. How in the world can one muck this up?

    Anyway, my point is that RH is seriously falling off lately. You have to wonder what's really going on there, and whether this is part of why he's leaving.

    I hope his replacement can surmount these problems (I'm certainly depending upon him). But I very strongly doubt that this guy has any clue at all about what it takes to run a professional software company. Instead, the impression that I get is that some PHB with an MBA is coming in, and will run things by the numbers, instead of the technology required.

    I'm really sorry to say that, but this fiasco with 5.[01] has really caused me problems and unexpected wasted time.