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Rush Limbaugh Begs Steve Jobs For Bug Fixes

jlgolson writes "Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh complained on his radio program about some problems that he was having with his Mac: 'Mr. Jobs, please help me. I know we don't agree on anything ... But can you put me to somebody that can get this going, because I know it's gotta work for most people. What am I doing wrong?' Eventually he shared that he was running into actual problems with Time Machine and Back to My Mac. Can you fix them?"

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  1. moto by Idiomatick · · Score: 5, Funny

    'stuff that matters' ???

    1. Re:moto by NecroPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, it sort of is.

      It's news because it's a known issue with Time Machine that now a high profile user is raising. And it's now something that might get fixed.

      Whether you like Rush or hate him (I find him amusing), I'm actually quite interested that he not only uses Macs, but has a network of them.

      Of course, there will be the standard set of "evil people use Macs?" If someone actually says it in a new way, I may find that entertaining as well.

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    2. Re:moto by Sorthum · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It'd be kind of nice if instead of the usual "Republicans are evil" flamefest, we could treat this as what it is-- a guy who's genuinely annoyed with a bug he can't get resolution for from Apple.

      Be interesting to see how quickly Apple coughs up a fix...

    3. Re:moto by _KiTA_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whether you like Rush or hate him (I find him amusing), I'm actually quite interested that he not only uses Macs, but has a network of them. He's only amusing until you realize that

      a. He's serious
      2. There are people who actually believe him.
    4. Re:moto by NecroPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

      It'd be kind of nice if instead of the usual "Republicans are evil" flamefest...

      I'd say, "You're new here, aren't you?" but your slashdot ID is 100k lower than mine.

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    5. Re:moto by maczealot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The chances of this thread not going nuclear by business hours in America today are about equal to those of Apple doing something smart with this:

      Send Al Gore with a new AirBook and a missing-manual.

      Seriously, I'm fairly conservative and _I_ would listen to that radio show (though I don't listen to Rush's show normally). Would be great publicity for all involved and *gasp* might have some serious dialogue on important issues. But like I said, that's about as likely as this thread not turning into a "Rush = personification of hate" & "I hate your hate" useless diatribe.

      Color me cynical, but all those who truly hold onto ideals in their hearts are.

    6. Re:moto by anagama · · Score: 4, Funny
      Old Joke:

      A customer arrives at a car lot for a new car. The salesman steers him toward the top of the line model with all the newest bells and whistles. While they're out on the test drive, the salesman tells the potential buyer that the radio is so advanced, it understands voice commands. To demonstrate, the salesman says "classical", and wouldn't you know it, a classical station is automatically tuned in. He tells the driver to try, and he says "classic rock". Before you can blink, Led Zepplin is pulsing through the speakers. The driver is duly impressed and is about to comment on how cool that is, when some punk kid in a riced out civic cuts him off. The driver yells "ASSHOLE" .... and the radio tunes to Rush Limbaugh .
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    7. Re:moto by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 5, Funny

      iii. He can't make his mind up which numbering system to use for ordered lists. The bastard!

    8. Re:moto by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

      four. ????
      00000101. profit

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    9. Re:moto by nilbog · · Score: 2, Funny

      You both must be new here...

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    10. Re:moto by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 3, Informative

      ....- A Discordian shall always use the official Discordian Document Numbering System.

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    11. Re:moto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      iii People like him cheerled us into a war where hundreds of thousands died. It would be amusing if politics had no actual consequences (ie it was arguing over what color wallpaper to make government buildings) but in this case I'm too upset to find the humor.

    12. Re:moto by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Older Joke:

      Q: What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg?

      A: One is a flaming Nazi gas bag, the other is a dirigible.

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    13. Re:moto by the+99th+penguin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Get off my lawn you kids!

      Argueing about 100K UIDs... whippersnappers.. :P

    14. Re:moto by mgblst · · Score: 2, Funny

      Look mate, it is very simple. There are 3 types of people in the world, those that can count, and those that can't.

    15. Re:moto by Malevolent+Tester · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah, the arrogance of the left. What is it about you people that means you can't accept the fact that people may have considered an issue as carefully as you have and simply come to a different conclusion?
      But no, there is one correct answer, and it's the one you have (shades of Marx's historical inevitability there) and anyone who disagrees needs re-education, or is misled, or brainwashed by lying right wing propaganda etc etc

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    16. Re:moto by robinthecandystore · · Score: 2, Funny

      hehehe... old

    17. Re:moto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Q: What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg? A: Limbaugh is still high.
    18. Re:moto by Enry · · Score: 5, Funny

      n00b

    19. Re:moto by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Funny

      You skipped over VI, dumbass.

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    20. Re:moto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      maybe that's why Rush has moved to Mac

      Au contraire, he has been a Mac user since before being a Mac user was cool. Probably before most on slashdot. He was bleating about how great his Mac was when I first started listening to him (which, by the way, was when his show was funny) during the 1st Gulf War.

      So, how's that taste?

    21. Re:moto by halivar · · Score: 2

      Yeah, he should be thankful his Mac even boots! Ingrate.

    22. Re:moto by NewAndFresh · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What is it about you people that means you can't accept the fact that people may have considered an issue as carefully as you have and simply come to a different conclusion?
      1) History.
      2) Open debates.
      3) Ideas founded on reality, instead of fear.
      4) Although many things are, you can't pretend everything is somehow neutral. Some things are right, and some things are wrong.
      Wouldn't you agree that sometimes there is a wrong way and sometimes there is a right way?
      5) Your leaders. (that's enough right there)
      6) Republican values tend to come from "faith based organizations," as opposed to open discussion and debate.
      7) Enough homophobia to shake a stick at.
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    23. Re:moto by daivzhavue · · Score: 4, Funny

      VI??? Emacs.

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    24. Re:moto by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Serves me right for lurking for years before registering ;)

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    25. Re:moto by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4, Funny

      What? My hearing aid isn't working today.

    26. Re:moto by dcollins · · Score: 2, Funny

      What is it about the right that you always go in for the ad hominem attacks?

      Ah, that's right, because you're self-absorbed, whored-out assholes.

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    27. Re:moto by Malevolent+Tester · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1) History. Last I checked, every attempt at socialism had failed. Egalitarian policies have destroyed public education. Unionised businesses are collapsing left, right and centre. Welfare has turned inner cities into crime ridden Third World hellholes.

      2) Open debates. Not really. Go to a left wing meeting and say you think blacks are genetically less intelligent. Much the same reception as you'd get promoting a 90% tax rate at a Libertarian convention, though probably more shrill. Open debate only works when no possibility is dismissed out of hand. As you're starting from a predetermined political viewpoint, that's not going to be possible.

      3) Ideas founded on reality, instead of fear. "Bush is going to reintroduce conscription"."The Patriot Act will lead to concentration camps"."Global warming will kill us all"."Dominionists are going to introduce a 10 Commandments based theocracy". You were saying?

      4) Although many things are, you can't pretend everything is somehow neutral. Some things are right, and some things are wrong. Wouldn't you agree that sometimes there is a wrong way and sometimes there is a right way? Of course. There are idiots relying on blind faith comes on both sides - the only difference is, the Christian right, for example, will at least admit their views are based on blind faith. The left merely substitutes the State for God, and sociology, women's studies and other non falsifiable circle jerks for Scripture.

      5) Your leaders. (that's enough right there) I'm not American, so I've got no idea of who else stands in comparison with Ted Kennedy and Clinton, but I don't think you've got anything to crow about here.

      6) Republican values tend to come from "faith based organizations," as opposed to open discussion and debate. See #2 and 4#.

      7) Enough homophobia to shake a stick at. I really fail to see the relevance here. (Some) right wingers hate gays, (some) left wingers hate men, the middle class, whites, Christians and their own country. How does anyone of that automatically verify someone's beliefs?
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    28. Re:moto by t0rkm3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are some valid issues raised there. Unfortunately, according to the nature of man everyone is a hypocrite, you just have to wait long enough for them to espouse views that seem mutually exclusive. Those views may not at odds at all, provided you have the correct context.

      Cramer, of Kudlow and Cramer, is a shill and villain. He himself admits that at times he has manipulated reporters to get a better stock price for himself. (That goes back to my First LAW: Trust no-one on television.)

      Tax breaks for oil companies? It's actually a suspension of wack-ass royalties or a method of paying a company back for royalties they have to pay to another government on oil. Otherwise, they don't drill or do neat things like bitumen reclamation because it would take at least fifteen years to break even. (Unless you don't like plastics, nuclear materials, and your car I would look elsewere.) It's an attempt to balance out gov't interference with more gov't interference. Sort of like tax rebates, not the optimal solution but better than a sharp stick in the eye. (Disclosure: I work for one of the top 10 oil companies in the world. I used to work for a largish movie studio, trust me, Hollywood's fucking you hard. The oil guys are generally cleaner about their business.)

      I'm atheist, and I'm anti-gay marriage. Not in the ceremonial sense of the word. I think you can do whatever you like as far as ceremonies are concerned. However, I do think that the gov't should encourage breeding amongst people who are productive as they tend to produce more productive people. (There is a bell curve here, the 2nd generation wealthy tend to be schleps.) Gay's have a particularly hard to cross threshold regarding the breeding thing. It's inconvenient and inefficient for them.

      Flag burning sucks. What a bestial and primitive way to express yourself. It is protected speech. If only I could get punching people like that in the nose declared protected speech. Almost makes me as angry as those wack-ass evangelicals screaming at soldier's funerals.

      As an atheist, I have never found it difficult to express my views. As a rule atheists spend more time attempting to restrict religious people than the reverse. Mucking about with Christmas and Hannukah traditions is just rude. Your argument is a bit of a canard. Atheists need to spend less time trying convert people and more time showing that you can lead a moral and kind life without a paternal heirarchy based on imaginary friends.

      Just one conservative guy's $0.02.

    29. Re:moto by jbrw · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember when all of this was green pastures.

    30. Re:moto by giminy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Last I checked, every attempt at socialism had failed. Egalitarian policies have destroyed public education. Unionised businesses are collapsing left, right and centre. Welfare has turned inner cities into crime ridden Third World hellholes.

      Last I checked, the United States is doing quite well. Our government hires about 15% of the population directly, and has another 20-25% of the population hired under direct contract work. These are rough numbers, but I did spend a while working in .GOV research labs, and as a .GOV contractor. I definitely saw just how much money is flowing through the things. I could make a pretty good argument that the rest of the economy moves from these spenders (I win a government contract, and use the money to buy computers [dell's income], add an addition to my house [construction workers], buy beer, etc, with the government taking a chunk of each purchase along the way for recycling to pay me more contract money in the future). When we had a depression, we worked to solve the problem by creating the Civilian Conservation Core, setting up government crop buybacks, etc. Now that we're in a recession, our government is handing us all money. Economies are just measures of money moving, and there's no better mover of money than the government...I'd consider the US a democratic republic with socialist leanings.

      7) Enough homophobia to shake a stick at.
      I really fail to see the relevance here. (Some) right wingers hate gays, (some) left wingers hate men, the middle class, whites, Christians and their own country. How does anyone of that automatically verify someone's beliefs?

      My guess is that the GP is noting that, in the US, the political right tends to rally behind anti-gay candidates (both the government officials, and their voters). The GP is making a generality here, for sure, but the generality is at least backed up by the fact that the majority of the political right has this sentiment (or such candidates would not consistently win the vote).

      What's most amusing to me is how many of the anti-gay candidates end up rubbing people's ankles in the bathroom (senators, leaders of the christian coalition, etc). Not that the left is any better. I only wish that such political folks would work a little more to understand themselves, and that their constituents would work a little more to understand their leader. That shall continue to be my wish...

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    31. Re:moto by 2short · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Welfare has turned inner cities into crime ridden Third World hellholes."

      Having lived in a couple of the worst inner cities in the US, and visited the third world, I can tell you haven't.

      "Open debate only works when no possibility is dismissed out of hand."

      What a ridiculous statement. Let us consider at length the possibility that your brain is made of turnips. We can't have an open debate if we dismiss this out of hand. Do you think trepanation would be the best route for investigation?

    32. Re:moto by e4g4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm atheist, and I'm anti-gay marriage ... However, I do think that the gov't should encourage breeding amongst people who are productive as they tend to produce more productive people. (There is a bell curve here, the 2nd generation wealthy tend to be schleps.) Gay's have a particularly hard to cross threshold regarding the breeding thing. It's inconvenient and inefficient for them. This struck me as somewhat disconnected from the reality of marriage in this country. First of all, the *only* requirement for marriage in this country is that one person is a man, and the other is a woman (and they're not related). There is nothing requiring both parties to be productive members of society, nor is there a requirement of compatibility in a marriage, nor is there any restriction whatsoever on breeding. There are plenty of statistics to show that the most "productive" members of society (as measured by level of education or income bracket) have far fewer children than the least "productive" members of society. Furthermore, married couples with no children pay *more* in taxes than they would if they each remained single, regardless of whether or not they file jointly or separately. Even better, a divorced couple with joint custody of the children will pay *less* in total taxes than they would as a married couple (assuming their aggregate gross income is the same in both cases). So where is this encouragement you speak of, and how does gay marriage have any impact at all?
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    33. Re:moto by Malevolent+Tester · · Score: 2, Funny

      Having lived in a couple of the worst inner cities in the US, and visited the third world, I can tell you haven't. Mogadisu 87-89, does that count?

      What a ridiculous statement. Let us consider at length the possibility that your brain is made of turnips. We can't have an open debate if we dismiss this out of hand. I'd dismiss it because of the reasons my brain couldn't be made of turnips. Dismissing it out of hand would be claiming that we couldn't suggest this because it was offensive to those whose brains are made of carrots.
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    34. Re:moto by ryder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, there you are enry... be a good lad and fetch my coffee!

    35. Re:moto by jimbojw · · Score: 3, Funny

      See, what some of you won't realize is that ryder's ID is really 7.

    36. Re:moto by siesindallerscheisse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Wrong. Being able to spout ridiculous comments like 'blacks are genetically less intelligent' is no more conducive to open debate than yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater is to free speech. With freedom comes responsibility, so you don't make comments like that unless you can damn sure back it up."

      Thank you so much for demonstrating exactly what he meant. You are an example of the very problem he was addressing.

      You have decided, without even hearing the argument. You dismiss it first, THEN go on to claim "you don't make comments like that unless you can damn sure back it up." What if he could? Had you even given him the chance to present his evidence before you declared his point "ridiculous". Why would someone even bother to converse with someone so closed minded as to dismiss a point before hearing the evidence?

      Were you genuinely interested in honest debate, your dismissal of said claim would be based on the evidence presented. Between reasonable people, we can both admit the claim stated would seem silly, but it was done for effect, and to prove a point. Some issues are so contentious that people will refuse to even discuss them, and quash ANY attempt at reasoned debate.

      And you just proved it.

  2. Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only reason Steve Jobs co-founded Apple was so that he could eventually get even with assholes like Rush Limbaugh. These bugs were invented just for him.

  3. Isn't the answer obvious? by Faylone · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get a PC!

    1. Re:Isn't the answer obvious? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Druggies prefer Macs.

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    2. Re:Isn't the answer obvious? by ACMENEWSLLC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A Mac is a personal computer.

      My Macbook PRO 10.5.x (now on 10.5.2) locks up a lot more often than my XP machine does. XP almost never locks up.

      But my Mac works correctly when it's not locked up. My XP machine often has problems. CD lower filter driver conflicts, explorer locking up because I close Acronis True image interface, Explorer extremely slow when I right click on a folder with WinZip explorer extensions turned on....

      The Mac locks up on stupid stuff - like listening to a CD/watching a DVD or using Video Chat with friends on the other side of the world. Most of the problems seem to be with Front Row, for me.

  4. Time Machine restores Mail Just Fine by jwdav · · Score: 4, Informative

    Time Machine works just fine with Mail - you can restore one message or a whole deleted mailbox if you like. It wouldn't work with Entourage or any other mail program with a single massive database, or with an IMAP server, both for obvious reasons ...

    1. Re:Time Machine restores Mail Just Fine by anagama · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can attest to this. I wanted to test it out to see if it really worked as promised. So I duped my macbook to be safe, made time machine do one last backup, then formatted the laptop drive and installed Leopard. During the first bootup process, I just ticked the option to recover from Time Machine, and everything transferred -- my mail boxes, rules, accounts, passwords. I was quite impressed. It does hourly, daily and weekly snapshots and is brain dead simple to run, and brain dead simple to restore from.

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  5. Re:a slashdotter can dream... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rush, Here's how to fix your Mac. - Get off drugs - Shower - Learn how to be nice - Lose weight - Volunteer for NASA flights to Saturn

  6. We're doomed. by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, lord. A story that brings together the Mac-vs-PC debate and the Conservative-vs-Liberal fight.

    It's the Reese's Peanut Butter Cups of Internet flame wars. I predict a global meltdown of the entire Net within a week.

    1. Re:We're doomed. by simong · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's an easy way to prevent it.

      HITLER!

    2. Re:We're doomed. by MadMidnightBomber · · Score: 4, Funny

      I heard Al Gore uses emacs and Rush Limbaugh uses vi.

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  7. Mistaken identity by FoolsGold · · Score: 4, Funny
    I live in Australia, so I don't really know much about this Rush Limbaugh fellow.

    But from a glance at the last name I, for just a brief second, saw the article title as

    Bill Lumbergh Begs Steve Jobs For Bug Fixes

    "Steve, what happening? Look, I've got some problems with my Mac here, it's being a bit of a bother... yeah... so if could you come in on Saturday to fix it, maybe even Sunday... that would be terrific... mkay?"
     
    /wakes up from nightmare, cold sweat
  8. Re:What a fat slob by doktor-hladnjak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not that I really want to dignify your post with a response, but I'm gay and you straight people can keep that son of bitch!

  9. Update by professorfalcon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Someone from "high up" at Apple corporate ("a West Coast guy", he said) called his office on the morning of Valentine's Day. Now they've got IT people working it out.

    1. Re:Update by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now they've got IT people working it out.

      "Yes, Mr. Limbaugh, if you just open a terminal right now ... then type rm -rf ~/Library/Mail to initialise the backup... Have you got your Time Machine plugged in? Good, if you'll just open Disk Utility, select that disk, and 'Erase' ... yes, Mr. Limbaugh, it's just to erase space for the new backup... Have you disabled the firewall yet? It needs to backup things from the local network, you know. ... Now open Safari, type in g-o-a-t-s-e-dot-c-x, yes, that's a virus-checking website, it'll make sure there are no gaping holes in your security ... What's that, Mr. Limbaugh? It's found a gaping hole? Oh no! We'll need to cleanse your firewall with FIRE! Get the matches, Mr. Limbaugh! This system must burn!" ...

      And so on.

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    2. Re:Update by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 2, Funny

      rm -rf * -- bypasses steps 2, c, IV, 00000101, and many more...

      Yes, but it removes the possibility of leading Mr. Limbaugh realistically on to step (xiv), the Infernal Dance of Data Recovery - namely, him dancing around on the charred remains of his former abused Macintosh, stark-bollock-naked, covered in animal grease, recovery CDs stuffed up his backside, singing the Swedish national anthem.

      Backwards.

      Y'see, you have to pace your technical advice properly. What's the use of destroying all his data in one fell swoop? No fun at all.

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  10. Sorry, can't help you by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Helping you would be welfare. You want a handout? What do you think this is, soviet Russia? Its leftist pinko commies like him that are ruining America. They want something for nothing, and they want you to pay for it. Well let me tell you about this little thing called the free market. It means if you want something done, you have to pay for it. Its the American Way. And if you don't like it, go live with the commies in China.

    Oh what, it isn't supposed to apply to him?

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  11. Well... by jmoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Okay, I don't really listen to your radio program Mr. Limbaugh, but from what I can tell it seems your a complete jackass. However, as a life long IT guy, I've always tried to help out a user even if they are a nut case.

    1.) Screen Sharing - Use VNC. http://www.redstonesoftware.com/products/vine/server/vineosx/index.html. Its free, easy to use, and if someone whines about it being insecure - kick them, hard.

    2.) Email backup with Time Machine - You failed to mention just what email program you are using, I fear you may be using Apple Mail. If so you have you have my condolences as Apple Email is not truly an email program, but some sort of psychological test program designed at driving its users insane. I suggest using thunderbird - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/. There are many add-on for backup email. Again its free and easy to use.

    Somewhere along the line Apple got this reputation that ANY thing they make is solid gold and perfect in all ways. I can assure you this is very much not true. Hopefully this helps and lets you get back to your insane rantings.

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    1. Re:Well... by NMerriam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I fear you may be using Apple Mail. If so you have you have my condolences as Apple Email is not truly an email program, but some sort of psychological test program designed at driving its users insane. I suggest using thunderbird - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ [mozilla.com]. There are many add-on for backup email. Again its free and easy to use.


      Apple Mail has worked fine for our users for a number of years, the big advantage is obviously its integration with OS X features like the address book, dictionary, keychain, and for iPhone users the todo and notes.

      I can't imagine how he's having trouble recovering deleted messages from his Time Machine backup -- he talks about "wherever they are" which makes me think he's rooting around in the Finder trying to dig up his mail files. If you run Time Machine while Mail is open, it will show you right in the Mail interface all your old deleted stuff and let you restore. It's pretty simple. Far simpler (yet more powerful) than any other mail application backup or restore process.
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  12. I feel him by rtobyr · · Score: 2, Informative

    He can probably be helped... unless he's already installed the 10.5.2 update. Those of us that made that mistake are totally screwed.

  13. huh? by NewAndFresh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I am somewhat new here, but this place seems to be overrun with Republicans.
    Yeah, there's plenty of moderate opinions (known in America as "the left"), but the amount of right-wing posts and moderation here seems a little strange. (election year?)

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    1. Re:huh? by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Slashdot is much like the rest of the population: Kool-Aid drinking wingnuts might be in the minority, but they frequently make the most noise.

  14. That must be... by ChePibe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the most vapid post I have read in a long, long time on Slashdot.

    And I just finished up a lengthy back and forth with a Ron Paul guy - so that's saying something.

    No one denies that bugs are a part of life. No one denies that we all have experience with them. The article is noteworthy - and Slashdot assigns it primarily, and appropriately - to the "it's funny" tag because, well, it's funny to hear a national talk show host discuss not only bugs with software, but to discuss them quite specifically. It's also fairly rare to hear bugs in a fairly niche OS get national play like that. Bonus points for Limbaugh using a machine manufactured by a company of which Al Gore is a part. As a Mac user, I even find myself sympathizing with him.

    So grow up and deal with it. Yes, we all deal with bugs, but they rarely get this exposure.

    And then there's this gem:

    Before the Rwandan massacres, they had similar radio programs pumping the audience full of hate and anger with deadly results.

    That kind of behavior has made him a wealthy man, but I don't see why it should get him any love from Slashdot, or any priority over anyone else who has technical issues.


    It's hard to imagine a more asinine allusion. Really, you can't honestly be trying to compare the two, can you? I mean, this is either one of the sickest pieces of political posturing or the most feeble-minded reasoning I have read in some time - and like I said, I've been talking with Ron Paul fans, so that's really saying something.

    Are we really going to equate Rush Limbaugh to these people? Oh, I'm sure we'll all get to hear some nonsense about him "stoking the flames of war with Iraq" or whatever, and you'll do your best to provide a tenuous link between Limbaugh and ongoing U.S. military action, but really - when was the last time Limbaugh got on the radio and told anyone to grab a machete and go murder their neighbors of a different ethnic group next door - really, when? Or are you just spouting nonsense? You even further your claim by arguing that he is getting wealthy off of such comments. According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know...) twice as many people listen to his show as there are in the entire population of Rwanda. Where's the uprising?

    So, assuming you believe that Limbaugh can lead a bunch of hillbillies or whoever to load up and start gunning down their neighbors, what do you suggest? Since you feel free to make allusions, should I? Should I assume that you believe we should regulate political speech? Should we prevent people from being paid for political speech? Should we only allow the good, happy, cheerful thoughts to be put out over the airwaves, so as to avoid the mere possibility of genocide? (A genocide which, as it just so happens to be, has never occurred in the U.S. and is exceedingly unlikely to occur?) Should we simply prevent criticism? Free discussion? Should we shut up radio announcers here who happen to express ideas you don't like because a bunch of a slaughter that occurred in the third-world that just so happened to use radio as a medium of passing along information?

    The scary thing is that the government - and, one would assume, the party in government you yourself would favor - is trying to do that exact same thing with attempts to return to the so-called "Fairness Doctrine". We just can't have people expressing their ideas over the radio, can we?

    And you have the gall to refer to others as "Orwellian"? It would appear that we were reading very different copies of Mr. Blair's work.

    Hell, I don't even like Limbaugh.

    1. Re:That must be... by rickb928 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've owned two cats in my adult life. That leaves me one step away from being an animal abuser?

      I have a son. I'm just one step away from a child abuser, and should be equated with child abusers?

      And I've had sex with a woman (see above), does this leave me one step away from being a rapist and misogynist?

      Yup, entirely vapid post, you got it right.

      It's been my experience that many of the people that hate Rush the most are genuinely intolerant of dissenting opinion, recommend that he (and others 'like him') be jailed or restrained from offering opinion, and that their views be suppressed at every opportunity.

      Amerika the Beautiful. Hypocrites.

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  15. Re:Why does he get a personal forum on Slashdot? by Moonpie+Madness · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Man you're crazy.

    Rush is definitely a hyperpartisan, but he's an opinion man. Most of what he says is just opinion. He's not comparable to Rwandan massacres, and he's probably more accurate than Air America, (I enjoy both, but Rush is a lot more chill, frankly).

    Rush is following a high tradition: free speech. Yeah, I disagree with a lot of it, but I wish all hyperpolitical folks did their work with such a sense of humor about them. I certainly don't think he's dangerous. He's been attacked by censors who are linked to powerful political dynasties, and a lot of the "hate radio" label has come from them. They are your enemy, my friend. They wan tto shu Rush up so they gain some miniscule political advantage. Let Rush speak, and feel free to speak against him. That's what democracy looks like.

    It's sad that liberals aren't all like me, and willing to let everybody give their best argument. I don't pretend anyone has all the answers, so no one out there can claim to always be right and Rush to always be wrong. Listen to him sometime, an be serious about it. He's full of goading and he's biassed as all hell, but he really isn't that angry.

  16. Re:a slashdotter can dream... by pr0nboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spoken like somebody who has never actually listened to Rush's radio show.

  17. The bugs may not be fixable... by FellowConspirator · · Score: 2, Informative

    He had two: Time Machine didn't back up his mail (and can't backup web-mail that isn't on his computer), and the second was that he couldn't use Back to my Mac (because his router didn't support UPnP or NAT-PMP). What's a digital fruit peddler to do?

  18. Re:Tags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's right. They should have tagged it Viagra!

  19. Found it! by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    if (userName=='Rush Limbaugh')
    {
      ramdomError();
    }

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  20. Re:Fie on Rush by cheezedawg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Let me get this straight- you are criticizing Rush Limbaugh because you think he insults people, and you chose to do that by... insulting him?

    Its been my experience that the people that most vocally accuse Limbaugh of hate speech have not formed that opinion through their own experience of listening to the show, but rather through what other media and Limbaugh's political opponents report that he said. Is that the case with you?

    Lets take the Michael J Fox story that you mentioned as an example. Mr. Limbaugh stated on-air that he thought Michael Fox had exaggerated his Parkinson's symptoms in a political ad, and that he had done so for theatric benefit. It was clearly in Fox's best interest to make his disease look as debilitating as possible, and his tremors in the ad were much more pronounced than we usually saw from him. Limbaugh said that he would be the first apologize to Fox if that wasn't the case. But guess what? Rush was right. Fox later admitted that he purposely skips his medication before public events like this so people will see his worst case symptoms. Here is a video clip of him admitting this.

    So was that hate speech, or was it an attempt to inject more honesty in a charged political debate? Unfortunately, the partisans have already made their minds up on the answer to that.

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  21. Re:Fie on Rush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I made up my mind on that when I did my own research and discovered that Fox's movements during the commercial were actually indicative of high-dose L-DOPA use (necessitated by tolerance) rather than being symptoms of untreated Parkinson's disease.

  22. Re:Fie on Rush by Jaeph · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's nice and all, but the clip shows him admitting that he skipped his meds before speaking to congress. It has nothing to do with the political ad that Rush commented on.

    -Jeff

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    Please learn the difference between a dissenting opinion and a troll before you moderate.
  23. Rush Limbaugh uses a Mac? by quag7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't that a bit...metrosexual? For him, I mean?

  24. Re:Fie on Rush by Casualposter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've listened to his show. Years ago back before he was the poster child for what's wrong with the war on drugs. It wasn't that I dissagreed with his point of view, it was that it was so obviously shallow and completely lacking in anything beyond the moment's sensationalist vocal vomit, that I couldn't stand him. After claiming for years that drug users should be treated harshly, we find that this is just a bunch of hypocrisy, Rush would be the first to condemn the poor to suffer and the first in line for welfare and unemployment if he needed it.

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  25. Re:Fie on Rush by Himring · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll do the obligatory "I listen to all forms of political commentary" cuz I do. I'm an avowed moderate. That being said, I listened to a lot of Limbaugh. He offended me often especially when making fun of the homeless and such. I think he has some price to pay in the afterlife for that. All of that being said, I found his detailed commentary and explanations of congressional votes very interesting. I must admit that, at times, he would show a cspan clip of a vote and explain, in layman's terms, what was happening. Amazingly, he had the ability to take boring, monotone events such as this and bring them to life. I would then go google the event and learn more.

    Bottomeline: there's a bit more to him than meets the eye. Yes, he's a zealot, offensive, etc., but he is not useless. Everyone has something to offer, and we must glean what we can from all people in our lives whether we meet them in person, watch them on tv or listen to on the radio, or even read their thoughts from a book. Even Hamlet found Claudius intriguing at times.

    Nietzsche had to look into the abyss to discover it looked back....

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    "All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
  26. Re:thanks by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

    Smart people who are angry at the world because they're not getting any?

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    which is totally what she said
  27. Re:Fie on Rush by jamie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you are criticizing Rush Limbaugh because you think he insults people, and you chose to do that by... insulting him?

    Hey jackhole, get a clue. When a bloated gasbag spews lies about an advocate for people with a debilitating disease, you're goddamned right he gets insulted. And when Rush mocks the disease's effects , shaking his body spastically around on camera to mimic Fox's illness, oh holy crap does he deserve to be insulted. Shakespeare didn't write enough insults for sick bastard whores like Rush Limbaugh.

    But guess what? Rush was right. Fox later admitted that he purposely skips his medication before public events like this so people will see his worst case symptoms. Here is a video clip of him admitting this.

    Guess what, you brain-dead moron? In that video clip Fox denies what he supposedly admitted, saying explicitly -- listen to your own video clip --

    "It isn't as if I didn't take it deliberately, as some kind of theatrical thing."

    Which of course pustulent corpse-raper Rush Limbaugh quotes as:

    FOX: I didn't take it deliberately as some kind of theatrical thing...

    Here, as usual, Rush listeners learn their facts about the world exactly backwards. It's the price you pay for giving a fat, impotent, parasitic slug-worm an invitation into your living room. Lend credence to the sneering ringmaster of a national freakshow and what happens is that you become stupid. Let me give you another example. If you'd bothered to learn something instead of lazily gulping down Limbaugh's diarrhea, you might have known that the visible tremors Rush was mocking come from the medication:

    In fact, at the time he was over-medicated for his Parkinson's disease, Fox said Thursday in an exclusive interview with CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric.

    "The irony is that I was too medicated. I was dyskinesic," Fox told Couric. "Because the thing about ... being symptomatic is that it's not comfortable. No one wants to be symptomatic; it's like being hit with a hammer."

    His body visibly wracked by tremors, Fox appears in a political ad touting Missouri Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill's stance in favor of embryonic stem cell research. That prompted Limbaugh to speculate that Fox was "either off his medication or acting."

    Fox told Couric, "At this point now, if I didn't take medication I wouldn't be able to speak."

    I'm not the president of the Michael J. Fox fan club or anything. But the guy has to take his meds in order to be able to talk and move and interact with the world with some kind of normalcy. Without the medication, Parkinson's patients' muscles become rigid, their movements slow, and they even become unable to move at all. At the start of the filming day, Fox doesn't know if he's going to nail the ad in one take or is going to be there all day, so you can only imagine how carefully he plans out how much medication he's going to take and when, to ride the tightrope between his disease's wracking paralysis and the cure's tremors. Did he guess exactly right? I don't know, maybe not. Is Rush Limbaugh the biggest hate-smeared asshole the world has ever seen for second-guessing a prescription for someone he's never met, someone who is just trying to help a cause he believe

  28. Re:thanks by HuguesT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, techies and trekies tend to focus on the problems they think can be solved through the use of science and technology, and call the potential solutions smart, even though they may not necessarily work in the real world.

    They also think that they are being quite successful thanks to their wit and they can't see why everybody cannot do the same, and consequently wonder why they should pay for social security. Hence, they lean to the right. Techies are not very good with empathy, usually.

    However, when the whole planet catches on and starts threatening their job, they call for government intervention.

  29. You must be a tolerant "loving" liberal by geoffrobinson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hear so much about how conservatives are evil jerks and liberals are "loving" and "tolerant." This is a prime of how stereotypes bite the dust.

    It's ok to hate someone because I disagree with him!

    --
    Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.
    1. Re:You must be a tolerant "loving" liberal by d3ac0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, it's just that threads like this tend to (as this one already has) turn into huge flamefests. Just trying to keep a damper on the flames. Didn't mean to imply you were saying anything you weren't. My Apologies.

      As far as the "general case" goes, I would just quote Thomas Mann: "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."

      --
      Official Heretic from the "Church of Global Warming". Proven right thanks to whistle blowers. AGW = Flat Earth Theory
  30. Re:Fie on Rush by Notquitecajun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Rush actually HAS a disability, which got hidden in his ADMITTED drug addiction. He's deaf (or was, before some implants) through complications. He didn't make a big deal of it until one day on radio he admitted it to his audience and went and got help. Hasn't spoken all that much more about it.

  31. Re:thanks by PortHaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually I find a mix of liberals and libertarians, few conservatives in the mix.

  32. Re:Fie on Rush by Notquitecajun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find Rush at his best when he is doing analysis on the popular media. He breaks down - practically every day - the pronounced biases on the left of many media networks. True, there is a lot that goes unreported (which gives some credence to left-wing claims of right-wing media bias), but he shows how journalism is typically left of center.

  33. Re:Fie on Rush by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Compared to hearing himself, I'd call deafness a blessing.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  34. Mac's by jriding · · Score: 2

    "It just works!!!"

    --
    love the taste, hate the texture
  35. Re:How about this one? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dislike Rush as much as the next guy, but is it really so amusing to rehash template jokes to take pot-shots for no particular reason? Well, now that you mention it...

    Rush Limbaugh and his chauffeur were out driving in the country and accidentally hit and killed a pig that had wandered out on a country road.

    Limbaugh told the chauffeur to drive up to the farm and apologize to the farmer.

    They drove up to the farm, the chauffeur got out and knocked on the front door and was let in. He was in there for what seemed hours. When he came out, Limbaugh was confused about why his employee had been there so long.

    "Well, first the farmer shook my hand, then he offered me a beer, then his wife brought me some cookies, and his daughter showered me with kisses," explained the driver.

    "What did you tell the farmer?" Limbaugh asked.

    The chauffeur replied, "I told him that I was Rush Limbaugh's driver and I'd just killed the pig."

    Disclaimer: this joke is not original...

  36. ROOTKIT? by StCredZero · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rush, I can fix it! I have just the thing to fix your problem. It's called a "Rootkit." We'll install it right away!

  37. bored/board by Descalzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I take it you've never seen Al Gore.

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    I cried real tears when Li Mu Bai died.
  38. What? by framauro13 · · Score: 2

    Rush Limbaugh knows how to use a computer? A Mac specifically? I thought those were just the tools of the liberal media to spread porn and socialist ideas to our youth.

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    In an effort to conform with internet communication standards, please note that the above comment is 100% biased opinion
  39. Color me shocked... by Jaysyn · · Score: 2

    That the fat hypocritical bag of shit can even operate a computer.

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    There is a war going on for your mind.
  40. Re:Fie on Rush by jamie · · Score: 4, Informative

    FOX: I didn't take it deliberately as some kind of theatrical thing... You know..how about using the entire quote:

    FOX: I didn't take it deliberately as some kind of theatrical thing but it seemed right for me to be -- to be uncomfortable in that situation.

    Please give Rush Limbaugh the benefit of actually reading what Michael J. Fox said--he's admitting to 'tinkering' with his meds--but he did it not to be 'theatrical', but rather to be 'uncomfortable' during his presentation. [...] I'm left with the impression that Fox *did* (at one time) deliberately 'tinker' with his medications...

    Here's what Fox actually said:

    It isn't as if I didn't take it deliberately, as some kind of theatrical thing, but it seemed right for me to be -- to be uncomfortable in that situation.

    Fox is explicitly denying the "impression" that you claim you have. You are using a quote from Rush Limbaugh, who chopped off the preface "It isn't as if," which gives the quote the exact opposite meaning.

    And then you chastised me for not using the "entire quote." Wow.

    I mean maybe you want to say Fox is a big liar or whatever, but to selectively edit his quote to pretend he's saying the exact opposite of what you say he's saying...? C'mon.

    What Fox was saying was that he didn't do anything special with his meds that way, but (as he's explained elsewhere) he has good days and bad days, and it did seem somehow appropriate for him to be having a kind of bad day on that particular day. These two things can both be true.

    I know you already said you like Glenn Beck, but... try to think for yourself please. Sheesh.

  41. Rush is fond of saying... by ElboRuum · · Score: 2

    "I'll debate you with one hemisphere of my brain tied behind my back."

    Well, Rushie, looks like you can finally put that fallow mass of inert grey matter to some use after all. And who knows, maybe that other half of your brain might actually be smarter than the one you claim to use. That is, of course, not saying a whole lot.

  42. Re:It was ever thus by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just don't think there's a common point of reference.. just because its English doesn't mean we're talking about the same thing. On the political compass I, my friends, and most of the politicians I know of are on the bottom left square. The entire US political system maps onto the top right.. but I know lots of people I'd consider 'right wing'.

    OTOH that's not the whole story. The terms don't mean the same thing. eg. in the UK Christians, if they're anything, tend to be associated with what we call left wing policies* - social justice, feeding the poor, equality, welfare state, etc. In the US they're universally described as right wing, for, I presume, similar reasons.

    The terms used by the political compass, clearly US based, are interesting reading - we see extreme right wing as about control (a legacy of world war two I suspect) and left wing as about freedom (power to the people etc.).. whereas the political compass defines them in completely opposite.

    Basically until we can agree on clearly defined terms that mean the same globally it's meaningless to even try to compare. The best you can do is agree/disagree on certain points and form your own unique political stance - then vote for the best candidate at the next available election.

    * That's a simplification - there are plenty of christian conservatives (again that word doesn't mean the same thing it does in the US).

  43. OSX Testing by RealGrouchy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple does a lot of rigorous testing on all of the platforms and configurations that they expect will be used by their customers.

    Can you really blame them for not bothering to test for compatibility with Republicans?

    - RG>

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    Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
  44. Re:Quite right by CajunArson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, Europe is so much better than America where you'll be prosecuted for criticizing those in power. Thank God the Europeans have those laws or someone might try to say something bad about Mustached Germans, Italians with helmets, or Russian "presidents" who poison their political opponents.

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  45. Re:thanks by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "No, techies and trekies tend to focus on the problems they think can be solved through the use of science and technology

    Yeah, and everybody knows that the conservative right is all about the "science and technology" based solutions. They have no use for "faith" or "religion" based solutions.

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    "But this one goes to 11!"
  46. Why do you people always do this? by siesindallerscheisse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "While yes, there are those on the left who say one thing and do another, there are just as many, if not more, folks on the right who are just as hypocritical."

    WHO CARES?

    If you're doing something wrong, it is completely irrelevant that someone else is doing it too and in no way absolves you.

    Saying "he did it too" is the kind of thing that belongs in an elementary school classroom, not in a discussion amongst adults. And yes, that applies just as equally for the people who scream "BILL CLINTON GOT A BLOW JOB!!!!" every time someone says something about Bush.

    STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR LEADERS WHO BEHAVE LIKE CHILDREN.

    "You might want to look in the mirror the next time you think only one side are hypocrites."

    I see no claim of that anywhere. Nowhere in the post is any attempt to claim that it is only liberals that are hypocrites. No other claims were forwarded, or even implied.

    It is not ok if liberals behave hypocritically, even if every single non liberal does behave hypocritically. Sadly, your reaction is all too common, despite the fact that so many Slashdotters profess to be more educated and enlightened.

    Well, I'll step up I guess and do what you didn't. Yes, liberals behave hypocritically. The question is not whether it occurs, but whether it benefits the greater good when it happens. Hypocrisy is not by itself an indicator of anything except a willingness to reconsider one's position if necessary. I would hope my leaders would do that, specifically, if they realize a previous policy decision had failed.

    See how easy that was? I was able to derail the "hypocrisy" argument without resorting to 3rd grade rhetoric. It saddens me that people genuinely think an appropriate response to criticism of their leaders is to denounce the other guys choices.

    "I will not give in to George Bush. I will not become fearful."

    Too late. You're clearly so afraid of him that you'll blindly defend people who don't deserve it. The way to "not give in" is to INSIST that your leaders are better, and answer for what they do, not cover up criticism of them with attacks on the other side.

  47. Proof that Fat Slob Repugnicants are Idiots by bratwiz · · Score: 2


    This is just proof that those sycophantic Repugnicant fat slobs with microphones are just moronic idiots lacking even the meager technical prowess of a used Kleenex.

    Come-on, gimme some Dittos.

  48. Re:thanks by maxume · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought it was Techies and Trekies have longs necks, and are good at blowing themselves(having long since moved past patting themselves on the back).

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    Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
  49. Re:thanks by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Informative

    Stocks are for suckers. It's almost as bad as trusting social security.

    You're still abdicating way too much control.

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    A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  50. Re:Fie on Rush by ildon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The assumption is that if you want the other side of the argument, you're smart enough to research it for yourself. Limbaugh only presents one side of the issue because he feels that the other side already has adequate representation. It's understandable if you don't agree with that position, but it doesn't invalidate it.

  51. Yes by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2, Informative

    Next I suppose you'll be telling us 'niggardly' is racist...

    Niggardly comes from a Scandavian language, and just happens to sound similar a racist term that refers to black people. Other then sounding similar, there is no connection. On the other hand, "ricer" is a derogitory term for Japanese, that then applied to a subset of the Japanese, that then applied to people who were similar to that subset regardless of race. Because the origin of the term is racist, it has racist connotations that niggardly does not.

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  52. And some religions need (dis)solution by crovira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All religion requires a suspension of disbelief.

    Like bridges and monster trucks, the more widely disseminated the religion, the more massive the suspension.

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    MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
  53. Re:thanks by Grygus · · Score: 2, Funny

    If we could do that, there would be no posts.

  54. Re:Fie on Rush by Omestes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ummmm...so the tendancy of journalists - who graduate from liberal arts schools, and typically vote Democrat, is right-wing? Please.

    I don't think you know what "liberal arts" are. Liberal Arts in the academic context has nothing to do with political affiliation, and more to do with an academic philosophy based on balancing practical knowledge with more esoteric cultural studies and arts. Thus you can't just go to school for your MBA, you must also take some humanities. A Liberal Arts school is one with a focus ON humanities, I'm guessing.

    "Liberal" has many meanings. If I make liberal use of butter in my recipe, does that mean I'm intoning the "Communist Manifesto" over my butter?

    Looking at the 3 big cables news networks, I don't see any latent bias, left or right. Fox is mainly right leaning, CNN is slightly to the right with Beck, but Dobbs is schizophrenic enough to balance that out. MSNBC leans hard to the left with Obermann, but not too far because of that Tucker guy balances that out. But then again these networks are about ratings, and part of ratings is finding audiences. People want to hear what they agree with, thus all niches are filled.

    The journalists themselves have less to do with any perceived bias then the corporate executives, who are generally more right leaning, and who select journalists based on what perceived audience they want to convince to watch ads.

    Thanks to the FCC, there really isn't that much difference between newspapers and TV, since they are largely owned, and controlled, by the same people. Ditto with radio. These "bias" is again selected by corporate folk, to align the selected media towards the perceived audience.

    Actually the media is leaning MORE leftward now, thanks to a groundswell of disgust in the Republican policies of the last 12 or so years (since the Gingrich coup taking the House), and especially of the last eight. Before the anti-war movement got authentic grass-roots groundswell status, the media was largelly right leaning in coverage. I heard NO critique of the war, or the rampant attacks on American freedom from the media until it became popular despite the media.

    That said, this might be my selection bias, just as the leftist media theory could be due to yours.

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    A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -edward abbey
  55. Rush asks a Democrat for help??? by 7Prime · · Score: 2, Funny

    HAHAHAHA!

    After attacking democrats for years, he finally gives in to pleading to a prominant corporate democrat for help. Boy, I love the sweet smell of irony in the morning.

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