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Schoolboy Corrects NASA's Math On Killer Asteroid

spiracle writes "A German schoolboy, Nico Marquardt, has revised NASA's figures for the chances that the Apophis asteroid will hit earth. Apparently if the asteroid hits a satellite in 2029, its path could be diverted enough to cause it to collide with Earth on the next orbit, in 2036. NASA had calculated the chances as 1 in 45,000 but the 13-year-old, in his science project, made it 1 in 450. NASA agreed." Update: 04/16 16:47 GMT by Z : This is not entirely accurate, it turns out — more details.

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  1. Not peer reviewed. by Plazmid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not peer reviewed.

    1. Re:Not peer reviewed. by ZX3+Junglist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Honey, Hi. It's Me. Your sense of humor. Can't we sit down and talk sometime? I'm a mess without you. Please say you miss me. I know deep down you feel the same way.

  2. Oh, greeeaaaat. by sammy+baby · · Score: 4, Funny
    From TFA:

    The shockwaves from that would create huge tsunami waves, destroying both coastlines and inland areas, whilst creating a thick cloud of dust that would darken the skies indefinitely.


    And thanks to little Nico, we now know that the likelihood of this happening is one thousand times greater than we thought.

    Thanks, little buddy! You're a regular ray of sunshine.
    1. Re:Oh, greeeaaaat. by wizardforce · · Score: 5, Funny

      one hundred, do you by chance work at NASA? :P

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  4. Damn him! by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 4, Funny

    Little bastards gonna get us all killed!

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    1. Re:Damn him! by jamesh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now lets burn down the observatory so this can never happen again!

    2. Re:Damn him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Righhht.... sure, Lord Apathy, we believe ya....

  5. Unix 1 - Humanity 0 by rubypossum · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the 2038k problem solves itself, thus vindicating Ken Thompson and pessimists everywhere.

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    1. Re:Unix 1 - Humanity 0 by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

      2038 years should be enough for anybody

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  6. Either NASA was using FORTRAN again... by Theatetus · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...or they forgot to do the metric conversion. Again.

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  7. His peers by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Still, no one has scrutinized the boy's work for math errors. Well surely we can find another school boy to peer review it.

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    1. Re:His peers by RuBLed · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thoughts of another schoolboy:
      "But if we make it strike the Earth and not one of those sattelites in 2029, the probability of it striking the Earth in 2036 is NIL. NASA agreed."

    2. Re:His peers by arivanov · · Score: 5, Funny

      We just need to make sure it is in a place like Germany, France or Russia where they still teach terrorist material like mathematics, physics and chemistry in school.

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  8. Re:Damn zeros by kcbanner · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess NASA was using MS Excel to do their calculations.

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  9. So if it does hit a sat will we know about it? by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Funny

    And how long will it take to figure out if we're boned? 2 years? That leaves about 5 years to do something about it.. or, ya know, go on a long killing spree.

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    1. Re:So if it does hit a sat will we know about it? by Zebedeu · · Score: 3, Funny

      You and I, we haven't been watching the same movies.

  10. Dang by mandolin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope that kid won the science competition he was in!

    "... and for my science project, I proved NASA wrong and made a discovery of potentially epic proportions..."

    Kindof tough to follow that one.

  11. Obligatory... by bennomatic · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one welcome our new German asteroid overlords.

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  12. DOUBLE OH-NOES!!! by Plazmid · · Score: 4, Funny

    OH-NOES! Kurzweil predicted that sometime in the 2030s computers will be able to match human brains. Combined with this recent news, this means we have to worry about killer robot overlords AND killer asteroids ending the world! OH-NOES!

  13. In related news by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Congress announced today that there's a 1 in 450 chance you will be eligible for social security at retirement.

    There's an alanis morriset kind of irony here. If we were just moneys in trees and had not put up the sattelites we would not have magnified our risk a 100 fold.

    Given that sort of cosmic irony, I predict it has to hit Hubble.

    And speaking of hubble they should have known it had a faulty mirror when they say the stencil on it that said "asteroids in mirror are closer than they appear".

    Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

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  14. In other news... by kpainter · · Score: 4, Funny

    NASA has plan to deal with killer satellite by 2054.

  15. Re:Where's the math? by fmarkham · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fourth R which is no longer taught is RTFAing

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  17. Google translation of German source by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here's the (semi hilarious) machine translation.

    I forgot the World Downfall chosen! ... AND NASA HAS SAID, I HAVE QUITE

    BY MICHAEL SAUERBIER

    Potsdam - He is the greatest threat our planet: On Sunday, 13 April 2036, the asteroid crosses "Apophis" the orbit.
    Nevertheless, the probability that we killer lumps from the All true, is 0.2 percent! This is a student from Potsdam calculated.

    And doing so, Nico Marquardt (13) the research of NASA corrected! For his disturbing discovery was the small physics genius now for the youth researchers Prize.
    "The asteroid has left me no rest," says the SiebtklÃssler from Potsdamer Humboldt Gymnasium. "On the Internet, I had high bets on the impact of Apophis was discovered. But NASA is the impact likely only 1 to 45000. I wanted to know how it really is. "
    With the telescope of the Astrophysical Institute Potsdam Nico was allowed to observe asteroids train.
    The student: "Then I said Spahn professor at the University of Potsdam, as the attractions of the sun, moon and earth the way of Apophis influence." Astrophysicists had a suitable formula.
    Nico: "With Professor Landgraf, ESA's satellite control center, I train then recalculated."
    Frightening picture: "The harvest probability is 1 to 450," said a young astronomer. For comparison: For a lottery-six (without super number), it is at 1 in 14 million.

    Nico: "When would the impact force of 98000 Hiroshima bombs freely. Stürben million people, dust would darken the sky, a super-tsunami swamped parts of the earth. "
    But: "I hope that Apophis nearly vorbeischrammt to us ..."

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  18. Hollywood by Eth1csGrad1ent · · Score: 5, Funny

    And now Hollywood can turn the German boy into an American boy, chuck the complex math for a backyard telescope, name the asteriod after the boy, throw in a baby to add drama and get Morgan Freeman to play the President... Oh wait... ...never mind.

  19. That's it... by FoolsGold · · Score: 3, Funny

    We're all gonna die!

    I bet by the time 2036 hits, stats will how it's now without a doubt, the year of Linux on the desktop. But it won't matter cos we'll be dead. Wouldn't that be a kick in the balls.

  20. At least we don't have to worry by The+Bender · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, think on the bright side.
    At least we don't have to worry about fixing the 2038 UNIX 32-bit date bug any more.

  21. Darn! by fluffykitty1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

    And I just read Duke Nukem Forever is slated to ship in 2037. :(

  22. Re:Other news stories on this by arivanov · · Score: 3, Funny

    That should be "Do not start cloning Bruce Willis just yet". Fixed that for ya...

    We are talking 2036 after all... Unless it will be a tragicomic spoof of both Space Cowboys and Armageddon.

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  23. Re:there's no way this is true by enoz · · Score: 5, Funny

    It appears we have a 200 billion tonne asteroid in a possible collision against a satellite weighing between 200KG and several tonnes

    I'd say it's more like the haystack hitting the needle.

  24. Re:So..... by nametaken · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nonsense. Everyone knows that for an asteroid on a collision course with Earth you call Bruce Willis. At least he has a drill, a nuke and a fatherly love for Liv Tyler. It's very different from the kind of love I have for Liv Tyler, and makes him do heroic things like blow up killer asteroids at his own peril.

    All Harrison Ford has is a stupid whip. All that's good for is killing Nazis and stealing rocks from crazy people.

    And if anyone says Chuck Norris, I'm gunna scream. You call him when someone steals your Mountain Dew.

  25. Re:Friday the 13th by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    26,000 Hiroshimas?! Why, that's almost an Africa!

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  26. Re:Um, was this by any chance an April Fools paper by PatrickThomson · · Score: 5, Funny

    As it turns out, space is big

    You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

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  27. Fuzzy math by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Huh, wait a second. The estimates for the Hiroshima bomb is 13-16 kiloton which would make it in the 340-415 megaton range. That's just 8 times the Tsar Bomba of 50 megaton the Soviets tested, and last I checked the world did fine. That number must be way off or the potential damages way exaggerated. Sounds like they need another German schoolboy to help them out here.
  28. Re:Friday the 13th by besalope · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hiroshima wouldn't see a drop of water. It's relatively shielded by the island Shikoku. Tokyo on the other hand might be saved only if Godzilla intervenes.

  29. Re:Other news stories on this by amRadioHed · · Score: 5, Funny

    But to bring it all together in a car analogy for the fellow /.ers... How does a .22 bullet deflect an oncoming semitruck forcing into the little old lady on the sidewalk? Aim for the driver.
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  30. Re:Friday the 13th by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tokyo on the other hand might be saved only if Godzilla intervenes. Thank God. I thought there was going to be no hope at all.
  31. *** STOP PRESS *** by PinkyDead · · Score: 5, Funny

    This just in: Kindergarten kid corrects 13 year old student's earlier correction of NASA calculation.

    Chance of impact now 1 in 4.

    Toddler's have be banned from using calculators for fear they will doom us all.

    Doom Us All, I tells ya!

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  32. Re:Friday the 13th by Missing_dc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not so, Sir. They EVOLVED into Italians.

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  33. You damned kids! by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dilbert on the "Millineum generation"

    Now get off my lawn! Damned kids! And take your calculators with you! (grumble mumble where'd I put my lawnmower?)

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  34. Re:Other news stories on this by defile39 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew there was a use for chaos theory, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and Schroedinger's cat . . . let's just all close our eyes preceding the collision . . . if we never observe it, we never know the outcome . . . and we'll all survive . . . or not . . . but we'll never know.

  35. *whoosh* by grahamd0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      o-- -  *whoosh*
        ^ the point

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        -|-  <- You
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