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Ubuntu 8.04 Released

Nate2 writes "The Hardy Heron has taken flight: it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro. New features include the Wubi Windows installer and Firefox 3 beta 5. Grab a copy here, and check out Linux Format's overview of the release."

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  1. Anonymous Karmawhoring! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Anonymous Karmawhoring! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If everybody is getting their Linux on, who is manning the internet?!?!

    2. Re:Anonymous Karmawhoring! by dmcgk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Theo DeRaadt?

    3. Re:Anonymous Karmawhoring! by R3N3G4D3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sweet, Pirate bay offers a pirated verison of Ubuntu? I'm in!

  2. Whats that sound I hear? by Aranykai · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its as if thousands of bittorrent peers suddenly started connecting at once.

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    If sharing a song makes you a pirate, what do I have to share to be a ninja?
    1. Re:Whats that sound I hear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it's the sound of UbuntuDupe firing up his keyboard to remind everyone how lousy his Ubuntu experience was.

    2. Re:Whats that sound I hear? by WwWonka · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its as if thousands of bittorrent peers suddenly started connecting at once.

      Comcast filters...engage.

    3. Re:Whats that sound I hear? by getto+man+d · · Score: 5, Funny

      These aren't the .ISOs you're looking for.

    4. Re:Whats that sound I hear? by qualidafial · · Score: 5, Funny

      I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if thousands of apt-get repositories had cried out in pain, and were suddenly silenced.

  3. Kubuntu by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget Kubuntu!

    There are some of us who don't (or kan't) run Gnome...

    1. Re:Kubuntu by kernowyon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just to note that the Kubuntu 8.04 release is not an LTS one, because of the upcoming KDE4 apparently. So if Long Term Support is something you really need - and you want Kubuntu - then you are still going to be using 6.06 for a while yet.

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    2. Re:Kubuntu by M0pper · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those of you that can't run Gnome or KDE, don't forget Xubuntu! (http://www.xubuntu.org) This version of Ubuntu features XFCE as a desktop environment, which is more lightweight then the other two, while maintaining most functionality. Alternatively, you can just get XFCE next to your current desktop environment and set it up so that you can choose which environment you want to use for your session each time you log in. You could then, for example, use Gnome or KDE when your laptop is running from its adapter and use XFCE when running on battery power, to cut down the power usage.

    3. Re:Kubuntu by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 5, Funny

      (or kan't) run Gnome... Kant runs Gnome, as explained in his Critique Of Pure Usability.

      Kant uses BitTorrent because he asserts that one should download such that the protocol for one's download may scale to serve all downloaders simultaneously.

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    4. Re:Kubuntu by wigginz · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was a die hard Kubuntu guy until I installed Hardy (Ubuntu) on a friend's laptop and wow, Gnome really impressed me with it's polish. KDE in Kubuntu seems so thrown together compared to Gnome. Makes sense too, Canonical only pays one Kubuntu developer, all their resources go to making polishing Gnome.

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    5. Re:Kubuntu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...all their resources go to making polishing Gnome. Boy, I wish I got paid for polishing my Gnome.

      Sorry, the stage was set with all the Hairy Hardon references
    6. Re:Kubuntu by AshtangiMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe I'm the only one, but ITunes is a great music server, and I use it exclusively without ever having gone to ITunes Music Store. There is nothing about using ITunes that demands or requires DRM. ITMS does have most of it's music DRMed (or so I hear) but again this has nothing to do with ITunes the music player/organizer program.

  4. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And ladies and gentlemen, that is why I won't be be 'apt-get dist-upgrade' until next week. I swear, Ubuntu get's the world's worst slashdotting twice a year. I could download the alternate, but meh, I'm not that concerned. As a side rant, last week I installed the Kubuntu 8.04 Remix RC, and after two hours I retreated to 7.10. I have no doubt Ibex will be awesome, and I might even upgrade sooner to KDE4, but as of right now, it's not so good.

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  5. Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm not the kind to diss a distro over most things, but does it actually ship with a beta web browser? (Or is that just an option the user can add?) There's a few things F3B5 just doesn't quite do yet (mostly relating to extensions). I wouldn't want it to be my only choice available via the package manager, or anything.

    (Note that I don't use Ubuntu or plan to use it any time in the very near future, so I really have no idea how easy it'd be to swap things out.)

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    1. Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 5, Informative

      AFAIK, since this is a LTS (Long Term Support) release, they went with the beta Firefox so there wouldn't be major shocks when Mozilla stopped updating 2.x and Ubuntu updated everyone to 3.

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    2. Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by snl2587 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This would be why I usually wait a month or so before I upgrade to the newest version of Ubuntu. I expect open-source stuff to have bugs but they fix most of them; it just takes little time. For now I'm hanging on to Gutsy until the rush dies down.

      As for the WPA password...did you check the Keyring settings? Chances are that a config file was modified, switching the default save setting...if I had to guess.

    3. Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by Burpmaster · · Score: 4, Informative

      Firefox 2 is in the software repository, so it's easy to install. Look either in Synaptic or in add/remove programs.

    4. Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by tolan-b · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nah it's storing *something* but it seems to be the password in hex form which it's then applying as though it were ASCII or latin1 or whatever they use for passphrases.

      Thanks for the suggestion though.

  6. Re:Slooow! by desmondhaynes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Its as if the whole world is at it! And I chose the most obscure download site! :) Guess everyone did that! :( -- TechWatch Ok, got the whole file. Give you a tip. Go to the ones where people are sleeping - I chose .tw enjoy. I am going to be busy now! :) Will send some screenshots soon! TechWatch
  7. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by Syncroswitch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Torrents don't work at work...

  8. Torrent-only mirror by rmullen · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Boston University Linux Users Group is providing a .torrent-only mirror that should be able to be easily reached regardless of traffic. It's often difficult to fight through the hordes around the other servers just to get a torrent file, so we felt this would be convenient. We also have a copy of the MD5SUMS if you need it.

    ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/

    Contains the alternate, desktop, and server torrents for both i386 and amd64.

    Hope this helps.

  9. Fast Mirror (2 gbps net connection) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://193.147.168.122/ubuntu/

    Please, always check MD5SUMS

  10. Re:I can't understand Firefox3 beta5 by Tikkun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ubuntu releases based on a schedule (1 major release every 6 months, 1 release with long term support every 2 years), not when software is completely "ready". The merits of this can be argued by better geeks than I (I'll continue to use 7.10 on my desktop for a month, but 8.04 is going on my lappy pronto).

    If you need completely stable software you should use another distro (Debian comes to mind) or wait a month or two.

  11. You can also get it shipped by old_skul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Instead of doing the bittorrent dance, I started having the disc shipped to me. You can order whatever you need from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ - they do a great job of getting the discs shipped, free of charge, in a lot less time than what they indicate on the site.

    I ask for 25 discs at a time, put a pile of them on my desk at work, and they're gone in a week. Here, have a Linux, it's free.

    1. Re:You can also get it shipped by dumeinst · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hope you donate to the project in this case

  12. Re:Slashdotted. by AlecLyons · · Score: 4, Informative

    wasn't slashdot this time, the things just wildly popular.

  13. I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm running XP at home. I've got two large hard drives, not in a RAID. Were I to download this Ubuntu release, would it be easy to set up dual-booting? What's the best way to do that, assuming I don't want to upset by Windows install in any way? Would I need to use FAT32 on a drive to make it visible to both OSs? Is there a robust method to at least read NTFS in Linux? Would it make sense to install on a USB memory stick or an external hard drive?

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    1. Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by tomtomtom777 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm running XP at home. I've got two large hard drives, not in a RAID. Were I to download this Ubuntu release, would it be easy to set up dual-booting? What's the best way to do that, assuming I don't want to upset by Windows install in any way? Would I need to use FAT32 on a drive to make it visible to both OSs? Is there a robust method to at least read NTFS in Linux? Would it make sense to install on a USB memory stick or an external hard drive?

      NTFS read/write access has stable for a long time. No need for FAT32.

      You don't need an external harddisk or usb-stick. Ubuntu won't disturb Windows.

      Just download, burn and boot the live cd, then click the install icon. Ubuntu will guide you smoothly into making some space and dual-booting.

      Don't Panic

    2. Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by atlastiamborn · · Score: 3, Informative

      The easiest way would probably be to use Wubi, which installs the ubuntu system as an application inside your Windows install (or something like that, haven't tried it myself as I don't have Windows installed).

      If you choose to install ubuntu on another drive and dual boot your ubuntu install should be perfectly capable at reading your NTFS partitions (helped a friend back up his stufs from a borked XP install just last weekend, worked great), I'm not sure about writing to NTFS partitions though, but it might work.

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    3. Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by wintermute000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most modern distros will overwrite the XP bootloader with GRUB the linux bootloader. However GRUB will detect windows and present it as a boot option so its pretty much seamless.

      To prepare, use partition manager in windows to free up some space on one of your drives, then install linux in the free space. As above GRUB will detect windows partition seamlessly.

      If you ever want to revert to windows bootloader, just boot off the XP disk, go into recovery console and type a command which I can't remember but googling will reveal it very quickly (its something like fixmbr).

      NTFS is fine with a driver called ntfs-3g, may not be out of the box but it is usually easily obtainable via an update. In Ubuntu it will be a one-line command to install, same as installing anything (you will love this about linux) as long as you have an internet connection. There will be a general 'install X package' commmand, from memory in ubuntu its 'sudo apt-get XXX'.

      However this will only install the driver, you will probably have to manually mount the windows partition via either the mount command or editing your fstab which is the file linux uses to determine what file systems to mount.

      Personally if its ur first go I would install linux on a spare box to have a tinker first. I went down this path for a year before I was game enough to muck with my 'production' desktop.

      The critical thing is to have another working computer with the internet available so you can look up instructions on the fly whilst you're in linux in case you can't get something to work in linux that also kills your web browsing. Once you have google at your disposal, your issues (barring bad-luck hardware incompatibilities) are all solvable and someone out there will have solved it already and posted a solution for you, often with cut-and-paste commands to follow.

      Have fun, and don't get discouraged - remember it took you however many years to learn what you know about windows, and for the first few weeks it will feel like learning how to walk again. Remember: most of what you know about PCs is actually what you know about WINDOWS, so don't be surprised when things are done differently in linux (on the upside it generally makes perfect sense). But in the long run it will pay off. The great thing is that in linux everything is controlled via human readable text files, no registry hunting required, even if you don't know anything about X you can tell a lot from the config files and tonnes of issues can be solved by a simple and obvious parameter change.

      Disclaimer: above is general linux advice from a Fedora user, I do not use ubuntu so your mileage may vary.

    4. Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by TobascoKid · · Score: 4, Informative

      In 8.04, you can use the Windows based installer (Wubi) instead.

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  14. Curious about Ubuntu by UberHoser · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well more than curious. It looks pretty slick.

    And I am really not asking to be flamed here, but can someone tell me why I might want to move from Windows to Ubuntu? Either for home (World of Warcraft has to run on it) or from work?

    (Puts on asbestos boxers)

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  15. No, Hairy Hadron. by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it's Hairy Hadron, which is actually a new kind of subatomic particle predicted by stringy-hair theory. It's the particle that makes hippies and geeks smell the way they do. It can also give you telapathetic powers. People will know you're pathetic before you even walk into the room.

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    1. Re:No, Hairy Hadron. by RayMarron · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought the codename for that release was "patchouli".

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    2. Re:No, Hairy Hadron. by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, fucking patchouli. The only substance known to man that can make BO smell WORSE. It's like it highlights the BO, circles it and draws little arrows pointing to it, just in case you missed it.

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    3. Re:No, Hairy Hadron. by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought the codename for that release was "patchouli". Gesundheit!
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  16. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by archkittens · · Score: 3, Informative

    yes, you just need to set the CD up as a repository in the atp sources list. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Adding_a_CD-ROM_or_DVD_repository

  17. I upgraded by Blice · · Score: 4, Informative

    I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04;

    I like the new compiz-fusion plugins it includes.
    Includes 3d windows for the cube (Where the windows stick off of the walls), this new "Shelf" plugin, that makes it able to shrink the size of windows to a thumbnail where you can dock them to the side of your desktop or wherever. They also have an "Error notification" plugin which is neat- Gives you an alert whenever any program has an error, and you can specify how serious an error has to be before it notifies you. The notification is just a little popup on your notification area.

    In the new Gnome, I really really like the new VNC client. It has a "bookmark" section to the side, and it has tabs. Tabs for VNC! I love it. The other really useful thing it has is a "VNC scanner", which scans computers on the domain for VNC ports to connect to, and gives you a nice list. Besides that, there isn't really much else great about the new Gnome- They try to keep things "simple" (A.K.A., not much customization to be done.)

    I've had a couple problems so far with Ubuntu 8.04, though. The first noticeable problem was that only one window on my desktop had a border. I.E, if I switched from one window to another, the window I switched to would lose it's border and title bar, and the new window would get borders and a title bar. I fixed this by installing Xgl, apparently I didn't have it.

    The other issue is these odd black dots.. They consist of maybe four pixels making a block. There's about 10 of them in a row on my screen, even when I do the cube and other things, they stay on top of everything. Even in my log in window. I have no idea what's causing it.

    And, finally, my sound isn't working now. But I see a lot of people are having this problem.

    Oh, and one more con- The "Unlock" button for network manager is really annoying. I'm not sure why it was needed, maybe someone can enlighten me?

  18. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's it like when the world revolves around you? Do you get dizzy?

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  19. New Icon by somegeekynick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot should start using Ubuntu's symbol instead of Debian's. Oh and, I'm downloading via the torrent right now.

  20. Magnet URL is for i386 iso is below by Danathar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, the tracker is overloaded, but that's why we have DHT!

    magnet:?xt=urn:btih:PKBGTUMADMQD7FXO7PLIZPGWQBLPRTEE

  21. Very Impressed by Oxy+the+moron · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been running Hardy right up from Alpha 2 until the RC. It's a quality release. Only issue I've had so far is that the sound on my laptop (Vostro 1700, uses Intel HDA) is almost impossible to hear unless the sound is up all the way. I've read a few things to try and get it fixed, but that's not too high priority right now.

    The installation is clean, it did a fantastic job auto-detecting my 3D hardware and setting up Compiz on both laptop and desktop (Intel X3100 and GeForce FX5500 respectively), and it's easy enough for grandma to use.

    Kudos to the Ubuntu team.

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  22. Re:Slooow! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give you a tip. Go to the ones where people are sleeping

    This is Linux, not Windows. Try to download from someplace where it's noon.

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  23. Re:But KDE 3.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because Kde4.0.3 isn't even a beta-quality replacement for KDE 3.5 yet. Kontact isn't ported yet, Konqueror has SSL issues, and Plasma and xrandr don't get along.

    Now I'm not knocking KDE, 4.0 was always intended to be a stable release of the LIBRARIES, not the apps. But that means it's still not ready for end-users yet.

    Presumably Firefox is in better shape than this.

  24. legality, legality... by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Uh, yeah, except that: isn't it kind of ILLEGAL to download copyrighted stuff via torrents?
    Is...was....err....was that a joke?

    That could be either a joke or someone who is just underinformed. Being as torrents get the most attention (in the mainstream, at least) for illegal traffic, it shouldn't surprise anyone to encounter people who actually believe that all torrent traffic is illegal.

    And of course, there are copyrights involved with Ubuntu Linux. However most of them are more than a little bit more permissive than those on "Enter Sandman".
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  25. Re:Terrible. People should know about this! by Dragonslicer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not 20 -minutes- before the official announcement was made, anyone asking whether or not the ISO on the main page was indeed the final release (which it was) was banned. Anyone who posted a link to the ISO, the .torrent, or even the MD5SUM of any of the files was banned. This is because the files could potentially be modified at any time before the official release announcement. If you download a .iso file an hour before the official release, and that file gets replaced half an hour later because of some problem with the disc image, you're basically screwed.
  26. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by ryanov · · Score: 4, Informative

    It gotten modded funny because it's really amusing how fucking stupid you are.

    Look at the download page: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php

    See the link to BitTorrent? Torrents are a sanctioned and encouraged method of download.

    Click the link and read. Educate yourself, Jackson.

  27. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by sholsinger · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, except that the copyright holder, (Canonical LTD) is freely distributing their copyrighted works via torrents because it saves them money on bandwidth.

    The software they're releasing is being released as free and open source. The license strictly affords anyone the right to redistribute the software in any means. This includes torrents. And if I'm not mistaken I believe you also have the right to burn the ISO to a CDROM and charge money for that CDROM.

  28. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by MontytheMooch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Torrents don't work at work... Funny...neither do I...
  29. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by qualidafial · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just download the Alternate CD, burn, pop it in. This is a server installation, so it doesn't do anything when I "pop it in" other than mounting.

    Whatever happened to reading the release notes? I'm brand new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, so finding the release notes is a bit like finding the highway plans in the city building's 4th floor basement in a disused lavatory behind a locked door with a sign stating "beware of leopard." Eventually I found the release notes on ubuntu.com but it wasn't obvious where to find it, and it took some time just to navigate there due to the site being unreliable while it's getting the crap beaten out of it.

    I swear this is the last time during this upgrade cycle that I write anything to help people Given your bedside manner, I'd like that in writing.

    ..who haven't done their homework. I've been struggling to teach myself this shit for a long time, and despite trying very hard to learn on my own and use the available resources, I still get lost sometimes. So I ask questions from those who are likely to know. There's no need to be condescending.
  30. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The scary part is that the OP believes this. That means the *IAA actually has the general public believing that torrents are illegal. Here we have proof positive that there is a legal use, as every 6 months the net gets a huge kick in the teeth from LEGAL downloads, but the general public doesn't believe it. Unless we fix that we have lost the war, regardless of the facts.

  31. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by qualidafial · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you post on Slashdot and run a server, so I assume you are interested in computers and capable of reading docs It's a hell of an extrapolation to assume that because I read slashdot and am interested in computers, that I would have the slightest idea where to look for the release notes, no matter how obvious that may seem to you.

    This is the, I dunno, 5th Ubuntu release I witness, and time after time people don't do the logical thing. I have spent countless hours on the mailing list to help them out, when all they would have needed to do is: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+8.04+release or, god beware, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/ and follow the release announcement. I was a newbie too, but I tried to do my homework before asking other people for help. It's called courtesy. I spend time helping folks on mailing lists too, but rather than berating them for not reading the docs, I just give them the URL they need. Sometimes folks just have a hard time finding what they're looking for and there's no need to bite their heads off.
  32. Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by couchslug · · Score: 3, Informative

    Try the Ubuntu forums instead, or linuxquestions.org. Nice folks.

    Slashdot isn't really a place to get "help" unless you have a fireproof suit that needs testing while you are wearing it.

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