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IPhone 2.0 Jailbroke
dch24 was one of many who noted that the iPhone 2.0 software has already been unlocked writes "If you were wondering how I was doing push email tests on iPhone OS 2.0 and Vodafone UK, this is the reason why. The code wizard commandos at the iPhone Dev Team have been working on this non-stop since the early days of beta testing. In fact, I had iPhone OS 2.0 running on my iPhone since last week. That was version 5A345, two below 5A347, but identical in functionality."
Still no word on an iPhone 3G crack.
Jobs' appearance at the latest WWDC shocked a number of people as he appeared thin and gaunt as if he was suffering from some kind of ailment. While I find speculating about somebody's health to be distasteful, it's unfortunately necessary given that Jobs is the head of a multibillion dollar company with many, many shareholders. His health is a concern for all of those shareholders as well as the employees at Apple.
In the past Jobs suffered from pancreatic cancer but fortunately it was the kind that can be managed and the kind that is survivable. However, word of this did not get out until after the surgery which surprised and shocked many people. So when Jobs' makes a public appearance and appears frail or gaunt, it is going to make news everywhere.
Don't jailreak me bro! Less properietary goodness for her pleasure.
Please run the story when there is a way to confirm it.
While the application development environment was locked, it made sense to play this cat-and-mouse game of jailbreaking phones to get at 3rd part apps. Now that Apple has created a rich ecosystem of free and fairly priced applications, I've lost all interest in the process. I happily scrubbed my phone and went with a clean build of 1.2.
Of course, there are a different set of motivations behind carrier unlocking.
Before and during the first iPhone release the coverage and interest was crazy. Now the iPhone interest seems to almost completely fallen off the radar. About the only coverage has been of the outrageous pricing plans in various countries and huge problems activating the phones.
Apple didn't meet the publicly stated sales targets with the first iPhone and it was assumed that everyone was waiting for the features in the 2nd gen. But that obviously isn't the case.
I can't see Apple even remotely coming close to their iPod level market domination with the iPhone but much more like their desktop computers - high margin but niche products.
...who doesn't give a shit about the iphone or any other products from apple?
No one is going to take your precious iPhone away from you...
1. It is more expensive to own - regardless of what marketing lies are being put forth
2. Although the first iPhone was at best a mediocre marketplace seller, enough people have had them and used them and the iPhone is no longer considered some miracle phone. Compared to cheaper and better featured the iPhone is a really crappy phone to use for day to day use. It is more of a thing you show off to other people
It seems like the majority of interest in the iPhone 2 is from the people who were foolish enough to buy the insanely overpriced first model.
(except iPhones)
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
is there anything that could possibly improve reception with a iphone that would allow for better reception. out of all the phones I have ever had, the reception on the iphone is horrendous. i get noservice through out the majority of my city and they have swapped my phone out twice. my crackberry use to be able to get reception inside our server room. i can't even get reception inside my building with my iphone.
i have never experience such poor customer service from at&t and apple. i expect it from at&t, but i have lost all confidence in apple. as a person of great purchasing power we were looking at moving our entire desktop infrastructure from dell/linux boxes to apple on our next upgrade cycle, but considering the service i have received from the "genius" bar and customer support that idea has been tabled. i wonder if apple realizes how much business they are losing with their deal with apple. plus the level of condensation of their employees at the store.
Your imaginary phone never will get service you tardo.
I assume sites like http://www.cellswapper.com/ etc are totally flooded with people wanting out of their AT&T contracts for their new iPhones. Or is there a site where AT&T contracts like that are actually in demand?
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
You know Vlad, if I ever see you raping a little kid I will make you this promise Vlad, I will fucking end you. That is a promise, you can bet your ass on that Vlad. You will spit teeth.
Just so I could actually smash it in front of some people.
It's a great phone and all, but christ, every site I've visited in the last 48 hours had some story on it about the damn thing.
The sooner the Apple Head office gets a 20 tonne nuke on it, the better in my opinion. Not with anyone in the building, I don't want loss of life. Just loss of their ability to dominate the press with everything they do.
Yes, this is a troll. Please mark it as such.
Bob
For the first iPhone all it did was raise Apples sales number marginally which promoted the idea that such a locked platform was profitable. Apple made money even without the carrier kickbacks. I agree at that point it made a little bit of sense because iPhone was not available everywhere, so if one wanted to use it in a unsupported locale, then the crack was good.
But it has gotten a little ridiculous, aside from the challenge aspect which I respect. For one, Apple has felt the need to respond which has made those of us that just want a phone a little more difficult.
At the end of the day all I can say is what I have said before. If it is just a matter a having fun and hacking the phone, that is great, I salute you. But if the phone is such a piece of crap that it no good without a crack, then why buy it? Apple products are good, and a good value, but they are seldom the absolute best on the market. If the phone, as is, is crap, then buy something else. If the phone service at the carrier Apple chose is crap, then buy something else. Apple will only make products better if it will make more people buy their stuff.
And, of course, with the introduction of OpenMoko, no one can complain that an alternative does not exist. Want an open phone that can be played with, reprogrammed, and anything can be run on it. Whoop, there it is. Of course, if no one buys it then it might indicate that people really do not care about openness, or freedom of application development.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for software developers making a buck on their application if it's worth it (see related rant on media from a previous slashdot story).
The question here is... If -I- were to make a *free* French-English dictionary... what are my odds of getting approved as a developer, getting my app approved in the store, and so forth and so on. Keeping in mind that this conflicts with a for-pay product also listed, and of which Apple gets a greater share (as in > $0). I'm sure Apple would allow it, but then there's the case of TomTom (google them) still not being approved for the program, while a competitor (google them also, forgot their name - they're better known in the U.S. I think) is.
"I think Apple knows its own roadmaps and plans when stating the goal, compared to an Anonymous Coward who knows nothing."
Are you the "Anonymous Coward who knows nothing" or the other guy? This is so confusing!
I know there's a lot of talk about the App Store vs. Installer.app issue, but there's another important part of this as well.
My friend found a SIM-card-less 8GB iPhone in his car a few months ago. He turned it over to authorities, but no one claimed it, so he got it back.
He already had another iPhone (a real one), so he sold this new one to me for $150 (I was planning on buying an 8GB iPod Touch which would've been $300, so I basically saved $150 even though I got a cripped iPhone instead of an iPod Touch).
Problem is, iPhones won't work (on their own) without a SIM card. I had to wipe it and jailbreak it before I could use it. When I heard about the new 2.0 software coming out, I was very excited, but I wasn't 100% confident that I'd ever get to use it. Now that it's been jailbroken, I can!
I don't know if I'm going to use Installer.app, the App Store, or both. I'm just glad I can use the 2.0 software.
The code wizard commandos at the iPhone Dev Team
Code. Wizard. Commandos.
So when is Thinkgeek going to start selling camo-patterned electroluminescent Pong robes ?
-Billco, Fnarg.com
While the application development environment was locked, it made sense to play this cat-and-mouse game of jailbreaking phones to get at 3rd part apps. Now that Apple has created a rich ecosystem of free and fairly priced applications
For one thing, the developer program costs a pretty penny: $1,099 for a MacBook to develop on (the software doesn't work on Windows, Linux, the free BSDs, or PowerPC Mac OS X) and $99 per phone on which you'll be testing. The sign-up form to become a registered iPhone developer appears to require that all developers be associated with a company or organization; it appears to make no provision for individuals. And what's this required "country code" field next to the phone number? And has the program expanded outside the United States yet?
In the case of iPhone/iPod Touch, the only way to add functionality without voiding the warranty is through the manufacturer's approved method -- the same applies to your car.
In which country? In the United States, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act established that third-party accessories added to a car or other consumer product don't void the product's warranty unless the product's maker can prove that the accessory damaged the product.
Why do you care so much about 'jailbreaking' a $600 phone from a supplier who violates the GPL and refuses to allow open development on its platform?
Is there any way to buy the iPhone2 without a plan?
Demostrating that I already have a 2 yr plan with AT&T so they dont sign me up? (using the details from my company provided phone, when I actually want the iPhone2 for personal use on another carrier once jailbroken?)
any way at all to get one without a plan? I heard talk of $699 and i'd be happy to pay that without the plan..... but not sure if they actually do it.
Anyone?
but you should see how long it takes to copy a 17-megabyte file on the iphone...
The question here is... If -I- were to make a *free* French-English dictionary... what are my odds of getting approved as a developer, getting my app approved in the store, and so forth and so on.
Apple is not stopping any competition from apps, or there wouldn't be the category collision (for things like voice recording and to-do managers) that we have seen.
Furthermore it *used* to be difficult (or not exactly difficult,, just very random) to get approved as a developer. From what I have seen on development forums though, Apple is hastening acceptance and people seem to be getting in really quickly now. Wait a week for the backlog to subside and you should get in even faster (though it couldn't hurt to apply now, and you don't have to pay the $99 until they accept you).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
For one thing, the developer program costs a pretty penny: $1,099 for a MacBook
As noted, Any Intel mac - including Mac Mini, look for an old one on eBay.
The sign-up form to become a registered iPhone developer appears to require that all developers be associated with a company or organization
Nope, I'm signed up as a company but I have a friend registered as an individual. In either case there are certain banking requirements (not sure if I can be specific about them so I'll leave that vague) if you want to distribute non-free applications, that essentially mean you will probably need an account with a larger bank. There are no banking requirements of course if you just want to do free applications.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Why would you want out? You can just transfer into the iPhone using your existing account (which will also re-up the period to two years).
Now T-Mobile contracts...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
At the end of the day all I can say is what I have said before. If it is just a matter a having fun and hacking the phone, that is great, I salute you. But if the phone is such a piece of crap that it no good without a crack, then why buy it?
But that's the point. It's not.
If you want to rebuild a car, are you going to choose a frame from a Gremlin or a Rambler?
In the end the reason to go through the effort to extend the iPhone is done because it's simply an awesome base to build from. All the jailbreaking does is let you leverage the frameworks that Apple has made, to the fullest extent. If those frameworks were poor you'd have a point but they are not, they are well designed, easy to program against and really provide a good UI when assembled into an application.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The plastic back on the new iPhone is to improve reception.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Thank you.
Nope, I'm signed up as a company but I have a friend registered as an individual.
If one can still sign up as an individual, then the Apple Developer Connection sign-up forms do not make that apparent. What did your friend put in for Company and Country Code on the sign-up form? Or should I take this up directly with Apple?
Die and Rise, just like any good God !!
You're quite right.
Also, several of the applications I use multiple times on a daily basis -- MobileScrobbler, Terminal, sshd, AFPd, others -- would not be permitted under Apple's SDK terms.
I am eagerly anticipating the release of an .ipsw cracking tool in the near future.
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Trying to make VOIP calls over EDGE is a REALLY stupid idea. I doubt the latency is good enough even on 3G.
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Meebo manages to look and perform like a native app, and it supports multiple services to boot.
I haven't found this to be the case at all. For me, Meebo has been largely worthless compared to on-phone clients that actually "speak AIM" to the AIM servers. It is much, MUCH slower.
Of course, I eventually abandoned Apollo, MobileChat and AgileMessenger in favor of bsflite, which is lightning-fast, crash-free and very easy to use. It's also CLI.
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http://iphone-gps.blogspot.com/
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Can anyone give us an ETA on a tool for 2.0 firmware jailbreak? Or at least instructions?
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If this summary is true, why does the topic at irc://irc.osx86.hu/iphone-dev say "2.0 STILL LOCKED DONT UPDATE NO JB FOR 2.0"
Seems to me that those guys are more trustworthy than Giz's advance copy of unreleased software...
I just want to swap my Edge Wireless (now part of AT&T) contract with someone who has phone service that isn't part of AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon. Is there anything like that left?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
So, if an iphone requires "jailbreaking" or whatever kind of hipster term you want to use for it, does that make your iphone "jailbait"?
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the salad!
what?
Are you serious?
Let's cover this:
>>1. through the iTunes store (for cash or free).
Clearly it's not that easy. There are only a handful of apps there today. You have to abide by what apple will let you put on the phone/ipod. What if I have a nice SIP app that I want to put on my iphone? Or perhaps I'm clever and I've ported a JRE to the iphone? What are the chances Apple will let me distribute it?
>>2. enterprise distribution on an company's own servers.
This is Apple just being funny. There are no large corporations using Apples or iPhone or iPods in a way you suggest.
>>3. ad-hoc distribution on up to 100 iPhones.
What if I want the whole world to have an app that Apple would prefer does not exist?
I don't see why you think these three conditions helps anyone particularly.
Stop f*cking writing Jailbroke/Jailbreak - F**********CK is that ever annoying to read all the time.
Scuttlebutt says that it has a Trusted Computing chip to prevent such tampering.
8Gig for $36 au.
All someone has to do is dupe the ipod style mp3 player interface in java, so it can run in ALL phones.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
In The Netherlands the IPhone was introduced July 11, a day later the following news reported that the 3G was already cracked: http://www.nu.nl/news/1653274/51/iPhone_3G_binnen_een_dag_gekraakt.html The article also reports that July 12 the first cracked 3G's were offered on http://iphonehelpdesk.nl/ and were sold out almost instantly. The site only offered IPhones without a subscription.
I'm sure the THEORETICAL numbers are available somewhere. Practically, the statistics are going to vary widely and almost certainly be much worse in every case. Cellular companies underbuild their networks as a matter of course.
Don't be an asshole, junior. I used to work for AT&T Local Services; I know what I'm talking about.
http://developer.att.com/developer/index.jsp?page=toolsTechDetail&id=7600078
600ms on EDGE and an average of 150ms on HSPA? Please. Watch what happens when the network sees ANY kind of serious usage.
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hello everyone i have an iphone
i messed up because i had it hack verstion 1.1.4
and now i download 1.2.0 or as many know it as 2.0
well i my iphone works everything but the thing is it only works with a contract wich i dont have i have gophone cheaper nd everything for me
but the thing is if anyone that does have a contract iphone 8gb if they have it hacked or not but running vertion 1.1.4 if they would like to trade or sumthing please mail me information or if anyone knows how to hack the new version please mail me my myspace www.myspace.com/ebher_verdadero_mexicano
there it is so if anyone can help please mail me
oo and i almost forgot it must be in souther california cuz i dont drive any further.....
so again if anyone can help me please