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iPhone Nano To Be Launched By Christmas?

the-s-dog writes writes to mention that while there have been many people wishing on a star for an iPhone nano, it seems that at least one UK news pub is confident that it will happen, and in time for this Christmas no less. Still completely unfounded rumor, but an interesting possibility. "Apple is about to launch a 'nano' version of the hugely successful iPhone. It is expected to be in the shops in time for Christmas. The product will be launched in the UK at up to £150 for pay-as-you-go customers by O2, the mobile phone group owned by Spain's Telefonica. 'This will be a big one,' said an industry source."

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  1. iPhone Slider by e03179 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When does the iPhone Slider with QWERTY keyboard launch?

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    1. Re:iPhone Slider by StreetStealth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If Apple ever does offer an iPhone with a physical keyboard, it won't be a new version of the phone, and it definitely won't have hinges, slides, or latches.

      It will be an accessory. Most likely a minimalist Bluetooth-based slab that you set out on the desk.

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    2. Re:iPhone Slider by Fross · · Score: 4, Informative

      As soon as you try the current iPhone keyboard for more than 10 minutes and see it actually is REALLY good.

      As a long-time Treo 600/650 user I was really sceptical about not having a proper keyboard, but the fact is that I (and everyone I know who has tried it for a while) got used to it surprisingly quickly, 3 days at most I'd say, and now can type on it about as fast as I could my Treo. At first the predictive text (which I have to say is better than most) helped, but now I simply don't make that many mistakes.

      Comments implying it's unusable without a physical keyboard just perpetuate the fallacy that there is no other alternative. There's just stubborn people, the same ones who last generation refused to adapt to touch-tone phones, broadband, automatic gearboxes, digital synths, electric shavers, you name it. Welcome to being a Grumpy Old Man ;)

    3. Re:iPhone Slider by bluemonq · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Had an iPhone for a 8 months. Sold it, got a Blackberry Curve instead. The problem with the keyboard is not that it's unusable. I can type out words with it: usable. The problem is the lack of feedback, which leads me to pressing much harder than I need to, which leads to sore thumbs after more than just a few text messages. And I don't like that clicking noise either.

    4. Re:iPhone Slider by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Had an iPhone for a 8 months ... The problem with the keyboard is ... [it] leads me to pressing much harder than I need to, which leads to sore thumbs after more than just a few text messages."

      let me get this straight, you claim the problem with the iPhone is that 8 months was insufficient time for you to learn to stop pressing so hard that it causes you physical pain!?

      I don't think Apple is to blame for you having less capacity for learning than a pet.

      reductio: I have the same problem with silent desktop keyboards. there's no sound to let me know when to stop pressing so by the end of the day I'm just pounding my bloody fists through the table just to hear the click of my shattered bones rattling about.

    5. Re:iPhone Slider by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      P.S. I use touch-tone phones, I have had broadband for over a decade, my car has automatic transmission, there is a digital synth in the room I'm in right now, and I haven't used a safety blade to shave my face for at least 20 years.

      However, I still like tactile feedback so that I can push buttons without looking. That doesn't make me old and unadaptable, that just means I have a preference that a touch-screen device does not meet.

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    6. Re:iPhone Slider by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So it was you all along!

    7. Re:iPhone Slider by SerpentMage · · Score: 2, Informative

      The lack of tactile feedback is actually as user interface issue. Humans do need tactile feedback as it is something that tells the mind to STOP pushing or doing something.

      By saying, "oh this is not Apple's fault, but your own" is being a typical Apple drone where if it does not work then something is wrong with you. Guess what people Apple is not the end, just another solution.

      BTW one of the reasons you need a keyboard is that a keyboard with its tactile feedback requires less accuracy than say a keyboard like in the Apple. With a non-tactile feedback keyboard it is absolutely important to align your fingers with the coordinates of the keyboard. Whereas with a tactile feedback keyboard your fingers can adjust just as they touch the keyboard. You don't notice this behavior, but it does happen.

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  2. Oh, how user friendly! by Major+Blud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "One expert suggested the nano phone would have a touch wheel on the back and display on the front so that numbers would be dialled from behind." I can't even fathom how hard it would be to try to use something like this. If this were the case, it would mean that there is no touchscreen, otherwise you would just dial directly from the screen. This is a rumour that I expect will never come to fruition, given the current price of the 3G.

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    1. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by p0tat03 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to self: Never let financial market speculators design a phone. Clearly they are retarded in this respect.

    2. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by Vectronic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I dunno, depending on the size, position, etc. I could see that being really easy...

      Move finger/wheel up for higher digit, down for lower digit, one tap for "Next Digit" two taps for Dial, but it would work a lot better with a "real" wheel, like a mouse wheel where it has that resistance between each scroll/click.

      You could dial, while the phone is already next to your ear, dial without even looking at it, dial while looking at the screen (instead of it being covered by your finger) etc.

    3. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by piltdownman84 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe apple is bringing back rotary dialing. You spin the click wheel on the back and the dial spins on the screen on the front. Hopefully it will make all the clicking sounds that those old phones did.

    4. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by GigG · · Score: 4, Informative

      Already out as an App. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284926166&mt=8 Sorry have to have iTunes to see it.

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    5. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by PacoCheezdom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or, you could use a touch-wheel to dial a phone number like ... a rotary phone dial! It would be such a novel concept.

    6. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by davidlowie · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about a dial with numbers 0-9 on it, with small holes next to each number. To input a particular number you would place the included stylus into the corresponding hole, then turn the dial clockwise until it stops. Upon releasing the stylus, the dial will return to its resting position, and your chosen digit will appear on the screen.

    7. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know, if you gave a rotary phone to an average teenager, they'd be unable to make calls.

    8. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by Facegarden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you give a Windows Mobile phone to the average 50 year old, they'd be unable to do much of anything. Just saying.
      -Taylor

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    9. Re:Oh, how user friendly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you give a Windows Mobile phone to the average 50 year old, they'd be unable to do much of anything. Just saying.
      -Taylor

      Yeah, but a hip 15 year old couldn't do anything with Windows Mobile, either.

  3. Move along, nothing to see here by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's the Daily Mail, FFS. They're as gullible as they are deranged.

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    1. Re:Move along, nothing to see here by ATMD · · Score: 4, Informative

      For those across the pond who haven't heard of the Daily Mail, they're pretty much our equivalent of Fox News. They'll publish any story if they think it'll sell papers, but they usually play on Joe Public's apparent dislike of immigrants, gays, people whose skin is too dark, etc.

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    2. Re:Move along, nothing to see here by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Informative

      Fox news is quality journalism compared to the Daily Fail.

      Think the National Enquirer with a racist agenda and you're getting somewhat close.

  4. Au contraire, mon frere by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

    'This will be a big one,' said an industry source."

    No. It will be a tiny, tiny, tiny one. One billionth the size of an iPhone. So small you will need a stylus the width of just a few carbon atoms in order to dial out.*

    It is, after all, an iPhone nano.

    *But that's ok, you can compensate for the tininess of your stylus by the smugness of owning the latest and greatest Apple offering.

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  5. Insider knowledge... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The new iPhone nano will not include a qwerty keyboard, as the new form factor would not allow it. I'm posting anon for obvious reasons, but as an Apple insider I will inform you that there is "slider" technology -- you see, the new form factor is a closely-guarded secret because it will be the must-have gadget of all Apple fans: it's a butt-plug! Yes, the gadget which all Mac users secretly desire but were afraid to ask for. What did you think they wanted to do? Pick up WOMEN? The female Maccies could simply use their imagination to put the iPlug to good use.

  6. So iPhone Shuffle is next? by tjansen · · Score: 4, Funny

    No display, and dials random numbers.

    1. Re:So iPhone Shuffle is next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This wasn't even funny in January 07 when I heard it the first million times...

    2. Re:So iPhone Shuffle is next? by catwh0re · · Score: 4, Funny

      My broken Nokia has had this feature for years, APPLE NEVER INNOVATES.

  7. This might once have been possible by StreetStealth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Before Apple had announced the SDK, an iPhone Nano might have been a possibility. The mockups of an abbreviated Apple Touch interface floating around hint at the plausibility of getting the basics of the iPhone UI into a smaller package.

    Post-SDK, however, there's no way that's going to happen. The varying hardware feature set (camera, microphone, etc.) between the iPhone and iPod Touch are already diverse enough to make software marketing a bit dicey, but I can't see Apple introducing a major new variation to the UI for smaller screens along with a whole new set of targeting constraints for developers.

    Perhaps there is yet one way an iPhone Nano could exist: No App Store compatibility.

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    1. Re:This might once have been possible by p0tat03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The varying hardware feature set (camera, microphone, etc.) between the iPhone and iPod Touch are already diverse enough to make software marketing a bit dicey

      If you poke around the API you will find that Apple has included ways to check the existence of various hardware capabilities (as well as network connectivity). Presumably they've already thought about devices that support different hardware profiles. For example, it is ill-advised to try and initialize the camera without first checking if it is available.

      but I can't see Apple introducing a major new variation to the UI for smaller screens along with a whole new set of targeting constraints for developers.

      Doubtful they will, but the same UI will work at different resolutions and screen sizes. I suspect the people who have hard-coded the screen width into their apps will be screwed at SOME point.

    2. Re:This might once have been possible by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One has to ponder the idea that the next IPod Touch might come with a camera and maybe a GPS.
      Why not make your touch your camera as well. A camera on a media player isn't any dumber than on a cell phone.

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  8. If it looks like it, and smells like it ... by wpanderson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Techcrunch reckons this is bullshit meant to drive traffic. I'm inclined to agree.

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  9. Re:Skrew making it smaller by dubbreak · · Score: 4, Funny

    What it really needs is a bottle opener...

    Isn't Zima in screw-top bottles?

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  10. Where's The News? by justin_ramos · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't news. It's rumor and speculation with absolutely no source cited. For shame, Slashdot...

  11. Re:Screenless cellphones... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now I feel old. Until I was in junior high almost no phone had a screen. Including the luggable car phones.

    Now a screenless phone is a novelty, and Slashdotters don't think it will work.

  12. Re:oh well by DerekSTheRed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a blackberry and my wife has an iPhone. I am very jealous of her iPhone. The speed of the internet alone makes me want to dump my blackberry and get a new 3G.

  13. In Other News by Chris_Rank · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple is also coming out with the iUnicorn 6G and (Now with Horn!) it will be ridable, require no feeding, able to fly, and it will shoot rainbows out of it ass while it cures cancer and AIDS in the onlookers below. Look for the iUnicorn 6G in Apple Stables starting this Christmas for a starting price of 299, 399 with glitter.

  14. Re:Screenless cellphones... by earnest+murderer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It'll have a screen, but this is the most compact delivery of a truth I've seen around here in a while.

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  15. Re:oh well by wattrlz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, the biggest complaint I hear about blackberries is that they work. People get blackberries and feel like they are somehow more reachable - even to the point where it now impinges on their downtime.

    In my experience most people don't complain about their iPhones because they realize they are making a compromise by buying one. "Gee, it's closed and I can't install apps on it like my other phone... Oh well, it's an iPhone! I downloaded an update and now it's bricked... Oh well, it's an iPhone!" etc. ad absurdum. It's kind of like a smoker of tobacco, "Yeah, I know it will kill me, but I like smoking! Yeah, I know it's expensive and I'll be reviled, but I like smoking!" Nothing else matters 'cause the user has his fix.

  16. The Daily Mail?! by Peregr1n · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh for Christ's sake - when will Slashdotters learn, the Daily Mail is nothing more than a comic? I realise most contributors here are American and can't be expected to know the wide ranging differences between British news rags, but our tabloids like the Mail can be trusted as far as you can throw a UFO. If an 'inside source' really did leak this story, and nowhere else but the Daily Mail has reported it, it's because everyone else has laughed the source out of the door.

  17. Re:Bend over Apple Luvers... by socz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I disagree, it isn't flame bait... My reaction to the title of this article was "YES! They're gonna get screwed AGAIN!"

    No one is perfect, but damn, apple keeps burning its customers with phones! I'm too cheap and poor to be buying the latest phone, but at least my HTC mogul (aka titan, ppc 8600) has lasted a while and held it's value more or less over time.

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  18. iPhone Femto and iPhone Shuffle by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    iPhone Shuffle: Just drunk dials from your address list. Switch setting to dial in order or random.

    iPhone Femto: So small no one but smart people can see it. And you don't have to speak. You just imagine the conversation.

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  19. iPhone one-button by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    iPhone one-button: just a button and 15 digit numeric display. You dial it by setting it like you would a digital alarm clock. Just hold the button down while the digits count up, stop when it gets to the number you want to dial. If you miss, you gotta go around again.

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  20. Viral advertising posing as news by spleen_blender · · Score: 4, Informative

    This "article" is advertising. Why the hell would you give apple free advertising on the front page. At least MS pays for a banner. Keep your guard up people, advertisers spend about as much money as the government on psychological studies of the public so they know how to get under the radar of most people.

  21. All i want by Reed+Solomon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is for a nokia style flip phone with an original iphone style scrollwheel and monochrome or minimalist screen similar to regular ipods, that uses mini-SD memory. that's all. Is that too much to ask for?

  22. Re:Screenless cellphones... by bubblejet · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work in a research lab that develops technology to be used by the blind. The price of this phone doesn't surprise me at all. I'm not familiar with this specific phone, but when designing a system like this, a lot of work goes into making the design easy to use for a blind person. Because it is such a specialty product, the cost of design and manufacturing is spread out among fewer people. It's unfortunate that devices like this end up costing so much, but trust me, I don't know anyone who's getting rich by making these things.

  23. Re:Bend over Apple Luvers... by hobbit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Absolutely: it isn't flamebait because if you don't buy the latest phone from Apple, they will actually anally rape you. </sarcasm>

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