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Using My PC For Plain Old Telephone Service?

TheJerbear79 writes "I recently accepted a work-from-home job that will involve using my landline to talk to customers. When I log into the phone queue, my landline will ring, I'll put in a three digit code, and then calls are routed to the phone line I'm on. It essentially turns my landline into a softphone. Rather than using a regular handset or obtaining a nice business phone with a headset and speakerphone, I would like to use my PC's modem in conjunction with a normal PC headset and soundcard. I know the hardware is capable, but the modem didn't come with appropriate software. Has anyone found anything cheap/free that would suit this kind of usage? Just for clarity, I don't want to use a VOIP solution; I need to use my plain old landline. My reason is this: if I'm watching a movie or listening to an MP3 while I'm waiting for a call, I don't want it to ever be apparent to the person who is on the phone with me, and I want to route all the audio I use through a single headset. I've scoured Google for anything close to this application, and all I've managed to find is information on VOIP software or programs that turn my PC into an answering machine, neither of which will work."

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  1. Perhaps a better solution... by Guido+del+Confuso · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is probably better to do in hardware than in software. Here's what I'd try:

    Get a phone that has a jack for a headset. These are usually a 3/32" connector that carries both microphone and audio. Connect to this an adaptor that splits it into two 1/8" connectors, one for headphones and one for mic. You probably have some headphones with a boom mic attached that has separate lines for audio and microphone. Just run the mic line into the mic port on the splitter, or use a lapel mic. Take the audio from the telephone, and feed it into a hardware mixer--just pick up any cheap mixer from Radio Shack. Then you can mix your computer's audio into the headphones as well. That way, you're not dependent on the computer working properly to be able to do your job, you can control audio source volumes quickly and independently from each other, and you could even add something like a DVD player or stereo to your mixer and be able to listen to that as well.

    If you wanted to get really fancy, you could throw an audio compressor with sidechaining, such as the Alesis 3630, into the pipeline. Route the telephone's output so it goes through the compressor's sidechain channel, and run the computer's audio through the main input on the compressor. Then, whenever audio comes in through the phone line, the sound of the computer will automatically lower.

    1. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, that's what I'd do as well. Keep It Simple, and all that. Of course, another solution would be to mute the speakers before answering the phone...

    2. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Do you even know what a compressor/limiter does? What use would a piece of studio equipment (rack mounted, at that) have in his setup?

    3. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Guido+del+Confuso · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No, I honestly don't have the foggiest notion what a compressor does. That's why I suggested using it. I just wanted to sound like I knew what I was talking about.

      I suppose, theoretically speaking, that someone who had some clue as to what he was doing could try connecting the phone's audio to the sidechain jack on the compressor. Then, he might think about setting the attack to the minimum, and the release to the maximum. He might also set the compression ratio somewhere in the neighborhood of 15:1 or higher, and the threshold fairly low.

      If you did that, it would reduce the level of the audio from the computer, which is run through the main input on the compressor, whenever the level on the sidechain is higher than the threshold--or so I'm told. If that were the case, you could probably use that setup to take calls without ever having to touch your mixer, since you would need to have silence on the line for more than the maximum release time (three seconds on the 3630) before the music would come back up again.

      Boy, if only that would work, DJs might use the same technique to duck audio levels when talking into the mic. Too bad I have no idea what I'm talking about.

    4. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Fex303 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What use would a piece of studio equipment (rack mounted, at that) have in his setup?

      Because you can? I mean, come on, this is slashdot, we'd come up with a remote controlled robotic flyswatter that runs Linux and is also a webserver given the slightest opportunity.

      And the OP only suggested using a sidechain "if you wanted to get really fancy". And it is really quite fancy. Also, it would make for an extremely elegant solution to the original question.

    5. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by oncebitten · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's a pretty good description of ducking. Although since the OP wanted to entirely mute the audio, s/he'd be better off using a limiter or a gate.

      A limiter is a compressor with more than 20:1 reduction. A gate is (sort of) a compressor with an infinity:1 ratio.

      And, if you didn't want to pay for a compressor/limiter/gate, you could probably figure out a way to get Ardour to do it.

      But muting the speakers is probably the easiest way.

    6. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by T3Tech · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well you see, a compressor takes air... no wait that doesn't have anything to do with audio. Ok here we go, a compressor....

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    7. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Stooshie · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... I mean, come on, this is slashdot, we'd come up with a remote controlled robotic flyswatter that runs Linux ...

      Could you do that? really? Can I order a beowulf cluster of them please? Please!!!

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    8. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      Just one more to back it up, that's the easiest and best solution.
      You probably want to have as much security and redundancy as possible, and hardware phones are simply more reliable. You can get a second phone for cheap if one should fail for redundancy.
      And if you get a wireless set, you don't have to sit in the same spot all the time and can walk around with the phone on your belt. Have another wired phone switched in parallel so you can pick that one up should the batteries be running low.

    9. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by EatHam · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, I honestly don't have the foggiest notion what a compressor does

      Apparently. If you knew what a compressor does, you would not be recommending refrigeration equipment when clearly what is required is audio equipment.

    10. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by data_dreamer · · Score: 1

      Use the first hardware suggestion, but instead of an actual phone buy a way2call hi-phone desktop. It connects directly to your landline, has the same headset jack, and will also let you dial out and answer with your PC through TAPI.

    11. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by daBass · · Score: 4, Funny

      A compressor makes the sound smaller, so you can transfer it faster. By adding a compressor to the line, he can handle a larger volume of calls.

      This of course is only useful if he is paid per call. If he is paid for time spent on the phone, then he should get something that will convert everything into a WAV or AIFF file so it takes forever to come through.

    12. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Amouth · · Score: 0

      read the next artical.. they are remobing compressors from refrigeration stuff.. this is just an example of reuse

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    13. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by pxlmusic · · Score: 1

      me too

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    14. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by soloport · · Score: 1

      Apparently. If you knew what a compressor does, you would not be recommending refrigeration equipment when clearly what is required is audio equipment.

      Vizzini? Truly you have a dizzying intellect.

    15. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      ... I mean, come on, this is slashdot, we'd come up with a remote controlled robotic flyswatter that runs Linux ...

      Could you do that? really? Can I order a beowulf cluster of them please? Please!!!

      Wow, how bad is the fly population in your house that you need a Beowulf cluster of fly-swatters?

      And would they even be useful if they didn't come with Natalie Portman (covered in grits, naturally)?

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    16. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Metaphorically · · Score: 1
      Is this a troll?

      Get a phone that has a jack for a headset.

      and plug the headset in. You can't really think there's an actual need for any other equipment for a work-from-home phone-jockey job?

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    17. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Chyeld · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sir, I'm a recruiter from Monster Cables. We like your style and wonder if you'd like to come work for us...

    18. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      Honestly, if the original poster didn't want fancy answers like this, he would just turn down the volume when the phone rings.

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    19. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      That's very clever, and would probably work remarkably well, but I need to do this by tomorrow. :-) So I'm either buying a phone tonight or clicking download.

    20. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by galoise · · Score: 1

      And would they even be useful if they didn't come with Natalie Portman (covered in grits, naturally)?

      i don't think so, after all, you need a grit covered natalie portman to waive each oen of all those swatters...

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    21. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Funny

      He could use the Mute button on his keyboard and a normal phone. Isn't this request pretty much just, "I want to solve a trivially-easy problem in the most complex way possible?"

    22. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by operagost · · Score: 1

      He wants to make sure that the caller does not hear his music. Your method would not work, as some audio from his speakers would likely bleed through.

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    23. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      Well, I , for one, welcome our new remote-controlled Linux-running webserver-flyswatter overlords!

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    24. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      i don't think so, after all, you need a grit covered natalie portman to waive each oen of all those swatters...

      At which point you have a Beowulf cluster of grit-covered Natalie Portmans?

      Awesome. And as a bonus, said cluster is using systems that run Linux.

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    25. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Guido+del+Confuso · · Score: 1

      Isn't this request pretty much just, "I want to solve a trivially-easy problem in the most complex way possible?"

      Welcome to Slashdot.

    26. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Metaphorically · · Score: 1

      Makes more sense now.

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    27. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.yourofficestop.com/dialog-301-de.html

      This will not go automatic switchover, or allow you to hear the telephone channel while listening to a movie, but it may be enough for what you are looking for

    28. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by kunwon1 · · Score: 1

      Well played, sir or ma'am.

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    29. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by kunwon1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      He could use the Mute button on his keyboard and a normal phone. Isn't this request pretty much just, "I want to solve a trivially-easy problem in the most awesome way possible?"

      fixed

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    30. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by treeves · · Score: 1

      So if there's a three second pause in the conversation, music starts playing to let you know that "someone needs to start talking again, now"!

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    31. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

      Sorry my friend, this is theoretically very accurate, but in practice(and I do remote support as well as music *in practice*) ducking will act only when there is signal on the control line. This will cause whatever background sound(movie, mp3) to be brought back up whenever TheJerbear pauses to catch his/her breath.

      In principle, an application with an ASIO driver that monopolizes the audio card would do exactly what TheJerbear wants, meaning completely cut off other sound sources when a call is coming in. Is it practical? Hardly - it takes up valuable resources to do what the "Mute" button does.

      Anyways, who am I to criticize those who want to have entertainment crap running on their business machines during business hours? Here's a software ducking app that should do quite nicely.

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    32. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

      Do that at your own peril, but I strongly suggest you have your towel on hand.

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    33. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by johndmartiniii · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear!

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    34. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

      www.gvst.co.uk

      Also, depending on what you get from your company for hardware/software, and also what you can expense, there may be other whatnots to choose from. May I suggest, if you want a true-to-Slashdot solution, that you install VMWare, build two identical virtual machines and run your queues through one of them? Or also, if you have another machine than your desktop(a laptop perhaps) that you RDP into your desktop and simply switch away from the TS window when you get a call? That would be cleaner and neater and you would be able to separate work and play.

      Finally, from an ethical point of view, may I just say how happy I am that you don't work for my company...I would be fracking insulted if the new guy/girl was already looking for a way to amuse themselves before they even got to start work. I sometimes have days when the phone won't stop ringing and I don't even have time to say hello to the family during that time(my SO also works from home - we make dinner plans over email). And yet, I feel grateful and privileged every day of my life.

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    35. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good suggestion, I was already planning on setting up a VM so my work box would be isolated from everything else I do. Also the VPN client we're using breaks my filesharing network so I need to find a workaround for that. As far as ethics are concerned I understand your point, but it's august in a tech support call center. Current call volume will be laughable. It will take me some time to get acclimated to my new call center home, but after that I'll be spending a considerable amount of time bored out of my mind. Would you rather have your employees staring blankly at a computer screen, while their will to work slowly ebbs away? Or have them keeping their minds active with other tasks, ready to dive into their next call with ferver. There's a very very fine line between being a responsible employee who stays active during down time, and being a lazy SOB who doesn't accomplish anything. Trust when I say I'm the former. Studies have been done (and posted on slashdot) indicating that if employees are allowed to use actual free time at work freely, they're quite a bit more productive when they have work to do. I have science on my side. So no it's not a matter of trying to shrug off work, it's a matter of trying to keep blood flowing to my brain during what is arguably the least busy season in the industry.

    36. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by rvw14 · · Score: 1

      I'm in for 3.

    37. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by glittalogik · · Score: 1

      Whoa, whoa whoa! The last thing we want is ASIO driving a monopoly. "G'day, enemy combatant, your rendition is going to be extraoooordinary!"

    38. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out http://www.download.com/IVRPhone-IVR/3000-2064_4-10680300.html?tag=lst-3&cdlPid=10763325

    39. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by iocat · · Score: 1
      Why not like,use head phones. Say those white ones that come with an iPod. When the phone rings, pull the ear bud from your ear and let it drop a couple feet down. Then, pick up the phone handset and move it to your ear. Unless you're trying to deafen yourself, the audio coming from the ear bud 2 feet away from the phone handset will not reach the person on the other end of the line.

      Or read a book, or turn on closed captioning.

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    40. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by randyleepublic · · Score: 0

      These guys are all making this too complicated. You need a good hardware modem card with mic and headphone jacks. Most of the modem cards now are junk, but there are still a few good ones out there although they are not cheap. If you are really strapped, try to find a place where they have a bunch of old PCs that you can glom parts from. All the older modem cards had headphone jacks, but the ones with mic jacks are rare. They are out there though. Then feed the output of the headphone jack into the input of the motherboard's soundcard. Get the picture?

      Of course this is totally annoying that you can't just connect to your motherboard's headphone and mic jack. Problem is AFAIK there is no good software that runs under XP and supports this.

      Good luck!

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    41. Re:Perhaps a better solution... by rootooftheworld · · Score: 1

      He's a /.er, for Bob's sake. His house (or room) is probably indistinguishable from a landfill. *ducks and covers*

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  2. Asterisk? by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe you should run Asterisk at home where you have a lot of flexibility available to do just about everything you ever wanted (and some more too)

    As an added bonus you can even blacklist callers so you can get rid of the telemarketers.

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    1. Re:Asterisk? by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Informative

      Addition:

      I suggest that you take a look at http://www.asterisknow.org/ for Asterisk as an appliance.

      Add a TDM410 card to be able to connect your POTS line.

      The use of a softphone like Express Talk will allow you to use your headset. Some softphones will automatically mute your movie or music when a call arrives.

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    2. Re:Asterisk? by dch24 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just a quick note, though. The audio that has already been put through your work's phone system will pick up a significant delay going through a Digium card.

      The latency can introduce noticeable echoes (probably only on your speaker, not the other end) and make the call quality unacceptable.

      YMMV

    3. Re:Asterisk? by jamesh · · Score: 1

      As an added bonus you can even blacklist callers so you can get rid of the telemarketers.

      That might not be useful in this case. My immediate assumption was that the article was about someone logging into a predictive dialer... I hope I'm wrong, otherwise we're going to have pages of posts helping a telemarketer do his or her job :)

    4. Re:Asterisk? by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most people using computers for telephony don't bother with speakers and a desktop mic and go straight for the headset, thus eliminating the possibility for that problem.

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    5. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are new to telephony aren't you. Echo is not always between speaker and mic.

    6. Re:Asterisk? by Dr+J.+keeps+the+nerd · · Score: 3, Informative

      The hardware hack in the first post is the way to go, but you'll learn something from using Asterisk (this means it's hard to use... incredibly cool, but with great power comes the occasional configuration headache: it does not know what you mean). If you use it, you don't need an external softphone. You can dial or receive calls from the Asterisk console.

      If you don't want to do this in hardware and you don't want to buy a digium card (or its equivalent) and discover The Future of Telephony, consider calling in to the queue through a VOIP service from any old softphone. If you're a Windows user, I recommend X-lite, but they're mostly created equal. If you have to forward your home phone to your VOIP service, that's not so hard. Your friends who have recommended this option are not stupid.

      I can't recommend a free VOIP service (Free World Dialup is now no longer free), but there are many that are pennies a day.

    7. Re:Asterisk? by diego.viola · · Score: 4, Informative

      I recommend FreeSWITCH instead of Asterisk.

      Works better, it doesn't have deadlocks, it's SIP stack is 100% RFC compliant, complete, all follow all the standards.

      FreeSWITCH developers also don't re-invent the wheel every time they add something, they re-use stuff, like PCRE, Apache Portable Runtime (APR), SQLite, Sofia-SIP, etc.

      I highly recommend FreeSWITCH instead of Asterisk.

      http://freeswitch.org/

      How does FreeSWITCH compare to Asterisk?
      http://freeswitch.org/node/117

    8. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. The delay does not come from the Digium card.

    9. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't quite see why there would be a significant delay - voip/network latencies and jitter buffers would cause delays, but a card that is just being an fxo on the circuit switched pstn, possibly bridged to a real analogue phone on an fxs port would likely only introduce a few (tens of?) milliseconds.

      Can you point me to anything which supports your conclusion - also, just make sure to get the hardware echo cancellation version.

    10. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At $600 for that card, thats one expensive telephone...

    11. Re:Asterisk? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      I hope I'm wrong, otherwise we're going to have pages of posts helping a telemarketer do his or her job :)

      That's a risk that we have to take. But don't forget that there are other people reading this too.

      Just take a look at the Asterisk Telemarketer Torture if you have problems with Telemarketers.

      And even if this is a single telemarketer, the catch is to make it impossibly ineconomical to run a telemarketing company. Many that are employed may have had to chose between being unemployed or be a telemarketer.

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    12. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asterisk sounds like good stuff, but I couldn't find a *simple* description of how to set up a home system. There is a ton of documentation out there to be sure. I've got a single POTS coming into the home and a handful of phones (including a cordless). Is there a cheap solution where I can plug an Asterisk PC in the middle for filtering calls? Emphasis on cheap.

    13. Re:Asterisk? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers, and they have families to support and cute little puppies too. I tried it just out of high school for about a month, I couldn't do it, but I met a lot of great people that sit on the phone and get yelled at all day for those two or three sales, just because that's what they need to do to support their families.

      Telemarketers don't have anything I'm interested in buying (partly because my budget can't take it) but from experience I know that it's better to just hang up and let them get on to the next call than to sit there and yell at them or worse, give them false hope that they are about to get a sale.

      Next time a telemarketer calls during a nice dinner with your family, remember, you don't have to answer the phone, so if you do, you're the one interrupting your dinner, secondly, they most likely have a family that they wish they could be with, but instead they have to call you.

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    14. Re:Asterisk? by senor_burt · · Score: 2, Informative
      If he wanted to use a modem, he could probably get a cloned Wildcard. Otherwise, he'll have a hard time getting his modem to work as a Zap device (sorry, they're called DAHDI now...).

      This is overkill as a solution, and does involve VoIP, but since it runs on Linux, and this is /., well, why not.

      I'd recommend PBXinaFlash. It's the best way to get up and running in an hour or less. Very painless install, and a solid solution that does everything and more out-of-the-box.

    15. Re:Asterisk? by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Informative
      You can get an unlocked Linksys SIP gateway for about $90. You can get a Grandstream one for much less but I didn't have much luck with them. SIP gateways plug into your phone line and network and can be configured via a web-based interface to connect to whatever SIP service you intend to use. In this case, your asterisk box.

      Asterisk in whatever solution you choose will turn your machine into a full-fleged PBX system capable of delivering a voice menu to your users and doing least cost call routing. For a while I had mine set up with a VOIP service and it would route 800, local and 911 calls out the landline (Which also has a plain old non-wireless telephone plugged into it for emergencies.) If the call wasn't local it would check enum to see if the phone number had an IP address associated with it and would establish a direct connection if that were the case. Finally it would try the voip service.

      On the inbound side, I had a Nokia E70 mobile phone that would register on my wlan and connect to the asterisk box when I was at home. Calls to my landline would ring it if I was home or re-route through my voip service to my cell number if I was anywhere else.

      Turns out I don't call people or get called enough to keep it all running, but it was very fun to set up. Dedicated PBX systems will cost a lot more than your PC plus the cost of even a digium card, will be harder to configure and will offer a lot less functionality than the Asterisk solution.

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    16. Re:Asterisk? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Asterisk on your spare PC or existing server, plus a $50 USB termination device a SIP gateway?

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    17. Re:Asterisk? by Zerth · · Score: 1

      >My immediate assumption was that the article
      >was about someone logging into a predictive dialer...
      > I hope I'm wrong, otherwise we're going to
      > have pages of posts helping a telemarketer do his or her job :)

      Nah, what the poster is writing about is obviously either a psychic hotline or a phone-sex line:)

      Never done it myself, but I knew a guy who paid for college working for a phone-sex service aimed at women. You never see them on late-night commercials(vastly smaller market) but if you can pass the audition it is a goldmine for the operator compared to the usual kind since women will stay on the line until you go hoarse.

    18. Re:Asterisk? by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Telemarketers ... it's better to just hang up and let them get on to the next call than to sit there and yell at them or worse, give them false hope that they are about to get a sale.

      But wasting their time is both fun and productive. If nobody ever does this to telemarketers, the world will be an emptier place.

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    19. Re:Asterisk? by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      I've tried Asterisk at your suggestion, it's way way way more complicated than I need. I installed it, clicked through menus for 2 minutes, and uninstalled it. No use whatsoever. Express talk is for VOIP it's asking me for server information and a bunch of other crap I shouldn't need. I want a program that opens up, detects my modem, has a purty picture of a phone, and lets me make/answer calls to my landline using a standard PC headset. That's it. :-) Thank you for your suggestions though, they are things I've looked at.

    20. Re:Asterisk? by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers,

      Only in the sense that, absent enforced rules prohibiting them, they will spring up because someone can make more profit, at a social cost, through them; i.e., in exactly the same way that the world "needs" muggers and pickpockets.

    21. Re:Asterisk? by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      I'm not a telemarketer! I'm taking all INBOUND calls. :-) I will not be calling you at home to send you the George Forman waffle fryer completely free with your purchase!

    22. Re:Asterisk? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      I'm not a telemarketer! I'm taking all INBOUND calls. :-) I will not be calling you at home to send you the George Forman waffle fryer completely free with your purchase!

      Since you're going to be home all day at your telephone (assuming that the various wizards here can get something to work), can we have the telemarketers call YOU instead? I'm kinda busy, so I hate to keep answering the phone.

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    23. Re:Asterisk? by Greyfox · · Score: 1
      If it plugs into the something that doesn't do SIP (Like the PSTN) and converts that to SIP, it's a SIP gateway. If there's a $50 USB termination device that does that then that would work. The main point is to get your voice call from a format you can't use digitally (PSTN) to a format that you can.

      It's been a couple of years since I've researched devices that get you from point A to point B so there could be some new stuff on the market. I still have my Linksys gateway and it hooks up whenever I fire up Asterisk.

      Someone else mentioned Freeswitch, which I am also going to take a look at now. There's definitely some exciting stuff going on right now. What makes me a sad panda, though, is that we're still so entrenched in PSTN. It's a lot easier (and cheaper) to move digital calls over the Internet, but no one is actually doing that to a huge degree. Enum tries to get us moving in that direction but we're still kind of in the telephonic stone age right now.

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    24. Re:Asterisk? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      What exactly does the world need telemarketers for? If it's just to provide a job to feed their children, you might as well say the world needs people to dig holes and fill them up all day. Frankly, that would be less wasteful and less annoying.

      If there were no telemarketing jobs, yeah some people might end up on welfare. But at least then they're honest about being a drag on society, and not pretending to add value.

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    25. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would recomend you Elastix is the best Asterisk Appliance out there.

      http://www.elastix.org

    26. Re:Asterisk? by gnuman99 · · Score: 1

      Grandstream 286 and their BudgeTone phones work *great*.

      I also have the Sipura-3000 (Linksys now) and that works well - Sipura has a lot of weird telco-settings though. Much more advanced interface but can have echo problems on PSTN line.

      Basically,


      PSTN
        => Sipura
            ==> House analog line
            ==> Asterisk
                    +-> SIP provider

      Sipura-3000 has independent Line and PSTN lines so basically you can call someone through outgoing provider (SIP) and someone calls you on PSTN and leaves a message or whatever.

      An excellent way to get rid of ALL telemarketers as they don't have keypads. So just set Asterisk to answer the PSTN calls and require people to press 1 to reach Bob or whatever. 0 telemarketer calls in last 2 years :)

      Zoom SIP gateway thought, doesn't seem to work well.

    27. Re:Asterisk? by kasparov · · Score: 1

      I fail to see how audio would pick up "a significant delay going through the Digium card". The delay introduced would almost certainly be less than a standard call that was routed through Asterisk as a PSTN gateway to a SIP phone--something that is one of the most common uses of Asterisk.

      Also, Asterisk has the ability to use both hardware and software-based echo cancellation. I've used Asterisk for hotel phone systems, a nation-wide VoIP provider, and for handling my home phone--I have never experienced an issue like that which you describe.

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    28. Re:Asterisk? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 1

      Telemarketing is a necessity for many small companies without the resources to conduct national advertising campaigns. I know of at least one business locally that would have been shut down years ago without telemarketing, this business went on to make some incredible advances in waste treatment technology. Many charities use telemarketing as their main source for donations, and help multitudes of people because of it. There are other examples and other lines of logic that can be given, but I don't know if I should argue with someone who thinks having someone on welfare is better for society than them having a telemarketing job.

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    29. Re:Asterisk? by neuroxmurf · · Score: 1

      Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers,

      This turns out not to be the case. Or in WikiPedia speak, [citation needed]. Or in human-speak, what the *fuck* are you *smoking*?

      and they have families to support and cute little puppies too.

      I can't take responsibility for their inability to use condoms. And there's no such thing as a cute puppy.

    30. Re:Asterisk? by jamesh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers

      I think you have a different definition of the word 'need' than I do.

      Next time a telemarketer calls during a nice dinner with your family, remember, you don't have to answer the phone, so if you do, you're the one interrupting your dinner

      Now you are just being silly. Whether you answer the phone or not, it's still an interruption. And if someone calls around dinner time there is a certain expectation that it's probably an important call (eg 'help! i've fallen and I can't get up'), as that's not really a polite time to call otherwise.

      And I hate telemarketers using predictive dialers. If someone calls me up then I expect them to be at the other end of the phone ready to answer when I pick up the phone and say "Hello?". I don't care how many cents they are saving by using a predictive dialer, if I get silence when I answer the phone I wait until a person starts talking and then immediately hang up.

      I don't really mind the occasional telemarketing call, provided:
      . They don't use predictive diallers
      . They don't call at dinner time (eg between 6 and 8)
      . They don't call when my young kids are having a nap (eg between 1 and 3)
      . They respond to the words "I'm not interested" with a "Thankyou. Have a nice day." or something of equal civility.

      I would love to see telco's implement a 'call importance' scheme where you append a digit from 0-3 to the end of the dialed number. The numbers would equate to something like:

      0. Completely unimportant. Don't even bother getting off the couch to pick up the phone for this one.
      1. Normal importance. Nothing urgent.
      2. High importance.
      3. Really high importance. Lives will be lost if you don't take this call.

      Telemarketers would be forced to use 0 on pain of really high penalties. This would reduce the need for a do not call register.

      If you didn't want to be disturbed (eg sleep time) you'd set your phone to 2 or 3 and it would only ring if a call of that or higher importance came through.

      The normal response to this suggestion is "but telemarketers won't follow the rules", but in the very least, any telemarketer calling me on anything but a 0 importance would get a thorough yelling at, and i'd feel better :)

      Before my Asterisk setup failed the WAF (too much echo), I diverted 'private' numbers, and numbers from Queensland (we live in Victoria and the only calls we get from Queensland are telemarketers from outside Australia bouncing in via Queensland numbers) to a call screening message telling them to press '0' to make the phone ring. Given that most telemarketers hang up immediately upon hearing a recorded message it worked wonders :)

    31. Re:Asterisk? by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 1

      Seems to me that this is the fundamental problem with these fancy Asterisk setups: anybody who can set them up isn't popular enough to make use of them!

      And I say this in all good fun as one of those guys who isn't popular enough to make use of them....

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    32. Re:Asterisk? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Yeah fair enough, I'll cop to that. A turn key system for Joe Average User would be full of niftiness, though. Hmm...

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    33. Re:Asterisk? by Michael+Hunt · · Score: 1

      Whether we like it or not, the world needs telemarketers

      No it doesn't.

      Next time a telemarketer calls during a nice dinner with your family, remember, you don't have to answer the phone, so if you do, you're the one interrupting your dinner, secondly, they most likely have a family that they wish they could be with, but instead they have to call you.

      Next time a telemarketer calls during a nice dinner with my family and I answer the phone because it may ACTUALLY BE AN IMPORTANT CALL (newsflash, not everybody that you may want to talk to is capable or desirous of sending CLI), I am completely justified in flying totally off the fucking handle. There is no justification for a FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS calling my house after BUSINESS HOURS. My usual response to telemarketers is "please justify to me in 50 words or less why what you're doing is more ethical than sitting on the dole." The response to this is usually... interesting.

    34. Re:Asterisk? by glittalogik · · Score: 1

      Oh man, I WISH someone would call me offering fried waffles...

    35. Re:Asterisk? by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 1

      Could probably make some decent money if you figured out a way to put all the functionality together into a little box that Joe could just plug in and use.

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    36. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stay far, far, far away from Digium's TDM hardware. Ring detection sucks, it mangles DTMF, and it frequently gets confused about if the line is on-hook or off-hook. Everything is either too damn loud or inaudible, and even if you purchased the card directly from them along their "Business Edition" of Asterisk, Digium Just Doesn't Care About Your Problems unless you wanna shell out more dough for a support contract.

    37. Re:Asterisk? by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

      The major source of echo when using the TDM cards under Asterisk has to do with an impedance mismatch between the card and the line. This was a terrible problem when Asterisk first came out, but now the auto-matching routines are pretty good and it shouldn't be noticeable. If you have your card set up correctly there shouldn't be any issue.

      There is another type of echo that can be seen when using speakers and a mic. There are auto-training algorithms to handle this but they range from very effective to not useful at all. If you are using a headset you won't have this issue. In short, a properly-configured Asterisk installation won't have any echo with POTS lines.

    38. Re:Asterisk? by drapeau06 · · Score: 1

      the world needs telemarketers

      Do you have any evidence to support this contention?

    39. Re:Asterisk? by wolfperson1 · · Score: 1

      We just signed up for the Do Not Call Registry (in the US here). Now, they can't call us unless they're non-profit, political campaigns, or we established a previous business relationship. It's nice, though sometimes, you miss messing with people. My family never yelled or hung up (except once when they guy on the other line wouldn't let me get in a word and talked for ten minutes straight), we just thought up fun and occasionally uncomfortable things to say. I just wish the companies in charge would do their research. Check the time zone the phone numbers are in. Also check if the person you'll be asking for has died. We got phone calls for my grandmother more than two years after she died. I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.

    40. Re:Asterisk? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 1

      I'm replying here since it's stupid to reply to all of your posts that are essentially the same thing, as you didn't read my earlier reply already.

      Yes, we need telemarketers in the same way we need cars or IT people... They are not an absolute necessity for survival, but the modern world has evolved with them for good reasons. As I said before, telemarketing has saved many businesses one that I have been personally connected to most if not all contract telemarketers do a mix of inbound and outbound calling. They provide a service both to businesses/charities and consumers/donors, failure to see this fact on your part does not make it untrue.

      And to all you people who think it's a great idea to be a jerk to telemarketers and berate them, http://xkcd.com/438/ "it's easier to be an asshole to words than to people" go have your "fun" with a real person that you have to see their face, you have to see their hope that they are doing some good for their families while you're just playing games with them, you have to see their dejection when they realize you're just another asshole. The only way you can feel good about treating people like this is if you keep them on the other end of your phone and never realize that they are a person.

      No one likes being a telemarketer, the turnover rate is the fastest for almost any career. But we need them, MDA needs them to get the majority of it's donations, political polls and survey companies need them to find out what people want, this gets more of what people want out in the open for them to have.

      So if you're so down on my use of the word need and you think that's a valid reason to dismiss these people's lives, then think about who "needs" you outside of your family/friends. I know I could do just fine without you, me and 99.999....% of the world would be just dandy if you were dead, unemployed, being treated like dirt all day by strangers, or whatever else might befall you. But if I knew you were getting treated like crap and could try and show people a reason not to treat you that way I would. I don't claim to be perfect and I'm not some great humanitarian, but maybe just one time instead of being a complete jerk to someone over the phone, someone who read this will realize that the phone is connected to a PERSON.

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    41. Re:Asterisk? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 1

      I like your urgency idea, my one question, does everyone in the world know when you eat dinner or when your children are napping? No? Is there a standard dinner and naptime for all households in a given time zone, because I wasn't given that memo. Do you know how to turn a ringer off? Yes? ok....
      I have a 21 month old and was a stay-at-home dad for 18 months, ringer goes off just before nap time, I make sure that the answering machine isn't getting tons of messages, and the ringer goes off again just before dinner time.

      If you tell someone you're not interested why do you then wait for their approval? This isn't someone you're trying to foster a relationship with, they're just trying to sell you stuff. Staying on the line just wastes everyone's time.

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    42. Re:Asterisk? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 1

      ok that was more than one question, sorry! I just want people to put some thought into how they treat others.

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    43. Re:Asterisk? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      My experience of the Grandstream devices are that they have a tendency to die after about 2 years of use.

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    44. Re:Asterisk? by NateTech · · Score: 1
      Gee, I already have a filter for stupid shit, it's called not answering the phone unless I recognize who's calling and actually want to talk to them.

      0. Completely unimportant. Don't even bother getting off the couch to pick up the phone for this one.

      Don't bother calling. I'll ignore it anyway, and if you're dumb enough to leave voice mail about it, I'll hear about 1 second of it before I hit the delete key and move on.

      1. Normal importance. Nothing urgent.

      Okay, I'll answer like I usually do if I'm not busy.

      2. High importance.

      To you maybe, I'll still answer like I usually do if I'm not busy. Call my cell if you have that number. Multiple lines ringing usually indicates you really want to reach me badly, or you're a retard and can't judge priorities. Either way, I'll check the voice mail after you quit calling everything I own.

      3. Really high importance. Lives will be lost if you don't take this call.

      Call 911 dumbass - leave me the fuck alone.

      So, in all -- the simple solution is not to answer the stupid phone every time it rings. Unless you think you're going to get a treat or something.

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    45. Re:Asterisk? by jamesh · · Score: 1

      If you tell someone you're not interested why do you then wait for their approval?

      Politeness mainly. The person on the other end of the phone is just doing their job. If they are going to do it politely them I'm going to be polite back. Some are charities and the callers are volunteers trying to make a difference to the work.

      I have a 21 month old and was a stay-at-home dad for 18 months, ringer goes off just before nap time, I make sure that the answering machine isn't getting tons of messages, and the ringer goes off again just before dinner time.

      My oldest daughter has aspergers and while she attends a normal school, some days it just gets a bit much for her and we get a call saying she's had a meltdown (she gets stressed really easy too) and so we go and pick her up. A bad day at school can set her back a long way in terms of her ability to handle day to day life, so we take the approach that it's better to just get her home to de-stress a bit and try again tomorrow. As she gets older she's getting better able to cope, but it's still an issue sometimes. Sometimes the school calls about other things though that don't require immediate attention. I can't tell the difference until I answer the call, which is a bit of a pain during nap time for the younger children. Nap time almost isn't an issue anymore though as the youngest child is getting older.

      Ditto for work with the cell phone (i think the call priority thing would work better on the cell phone actually). When i'm rostered onto after hours support and my cell phone rings, I'd like it not to ring unless the call is more important than what I'm doing right now. Eg if i'm in the middle of cooking dinner and someone's not getting email then that can probably wait. On the other hand if a critical system has failed and 50 factory workers are now being paid to stand around doing nothing then that's a bit more important.

      Or if i'm in a meeting I would normally turn the cell phone off, but there are some calls i'd still like to get, eg when my wife is about to go into labor, or when she's had another gallbladder attack, or one of the kids has had an accident at school or creche.

      At the end of the day, these phones are just tools that we use, and I think an ability to convey the urgency of the call would allow me to make better use of them.

    46. Re:Asterisk? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I totally agree with your urgency idea, I wish it was easy to implement (maybe it is, I'm sure some blue-boxing relic of times past could elaborate :P)

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    47. Re:Asterisk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. A) THEY are the one interrupting dinner -- the call could be someone you actually want to talk to.
                B) Telemarketers can eat shit and die. I don't care if I got their hopes up just to crush them, or kept THEM on the phone too long yelling at them, ruining their calls per hour rate or whatever. To emphasize, EAT SHIT AND DIE. Or get a real job.
                C) No, the world doesn't need telemarketers.

  3. Not a softphone by profplump · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It doesn't turn your landline into a softphone, it turns your landline into a landline, which works just as any other landline.

    So you want to mute your computer when the POTS phone rings; why can't you ask that question instead of pretending that you have some magically non-VoIP softphone?

    That being said, I think an standard audio compression and mixer is the right choice; prioritize the POTS audio and the computer will automatically be reduced in volume when the POTS line is active.

    1. Re:Not a softphone by 0xygen · · Score: 4, Informative

      The reason he didn't ask your suggested question is simply because that is not what he wants to know.

      He is asking what software is required to route the internal modem's POTS audio to the speakers and mic.
      Most decent modems used to come with the necessary dialler software, however it is rapdidly disappearing.

      He is NOT asking for external hardware to manage the relative levels of the PC audio and a separate POTS system.

    2. Re:Not a softphone by BLAG-blast · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He is asking...

      I read his guy's "question" a few times, I've got no idea what he's asking, you could both be right, for all I know. I'm not even sure how what he's asking for will solve the problem ("no body should know I'm slacking off and watching TV when I'm supposed to be working").

      I think this guy's just bragging about having a work from home job, while trying to act all old skool and cool by dissing VOIP.

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    3. Re:Not a softphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is NOT asking for external hardware to manage the relative levels of the PC audio and a separate POTS system.

      But a lot of people seem to think he is asking the wrong question for the stated situation.

    4. Re:Not a softphone by ACMENEWSLLC · · Score: 1

      Or get a softphone. My home line is Skype on my Mac. When I take a call on Skype, iTunes is automatically paused. Works great.

    5. Re:Not a softphone by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Your reading comprehension skills are weak. From the question:

      Rather than using a regular handset or obtaining a nice business phone with a headset and speakerphone, I would like to use my PC's modem in conjunction with a normal PC headset and soundcard. I know the hardware is capable, but the modem didn't come with appropriate software. Has anyone found anything cheap/free that would suit this kind of usage?

      This is not very complicated. I suggest you return to Junior High school and study English at that level. (I apologize if English is your second language - you're doing quite well! Otherwise you're a bonehead.)

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    6. Re:Not a softphone by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I'm not pretending anything. I think I explained it quite clearly. Here let me dumb it down for you. I log into a program called aspect with a username and password. Aspect rings my home phone. Ring ring ring! I then enter a code displayed in Aspect. If I enter this code correctly, it STAYS CONNECTED TO MY PHONE LINE for the entirety of my work day. I can then use the dial pad in aspect to make and recieve phone calls. If I get an inbound call there's a whisper on the line that says "you have an incoming call" What I'm trying to do is avoid not hearing a call because my phone was setting on my desk and I like my music loud, or having a customer say "Are you watching Batman..." because they can hear it, or someother such nonsense. If you're going to take the time to reply, take the time to read the original post, and stop being insulting because YOU don't understand something. Just say "I don't get it" it's cool, slashdotters are helpful.

    7. Re:Not a softphone by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      The reason he didn't ask your suggested question is simply because that is not what he wants to know.

      He is asking what software is required to route the internal modem's POTS audio to the speakers and mic. Most decent modems used to come with the necessary dialler software, however it is rapdidly disappearing.

      He is NOT asking for external hardware to manage the relative levels of the PC audio and a separate POTS system.

      Mod parent up, he gets it! :-)

    8. Re:Not a softphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Based on the summary, when he logs into the phone queue, his company's PBX calls his number, he answers, enters his code, and then stays on the line until he logs out of the phone queue, with calls coming in with most likely only a beep to indicate that a caller is on the line.

    9. Re:Not a softphone by 0xygen · · Score: 1

      I'm just sorry I cannot remember the name of any of the pieces of software!

      They all used be unbranded OEM tools that came with your modem, in the days where modems were external boxes plugged into your serial port.

    10. Re:Not a softphone by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      Yeah I have a feeling I'm searching in vain, nobody really does what I'm trying to do anymore. It's really kindof retro but it's a great solution for what I'm trying to accomplish. Cheers!

    11. Re:Not a softphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I don't think you should be getting mad a someone because you didn't do a good job explaining your problem. After your further explanation I actually have less of an understanding of what you're trying to do then I did before.

      You still haven't explained what you mean when you say you don't want it to be apparent that your watching a movie or listing to music. The closest I can think of is that you're playing your movie/music/whatever on your comptuer. The problem with that is, if you're going to always be on the phone (ie someone will always be dialed into your line) why do you expect your computer turned phone to know the difference between these two different states?
      1) Someone dialed into the line, but the line is empty, so I can play music/movie/whatever
      2) Someone dialed into the line, and someone is there, so I need to turn off the music/movie/whatever

    12. Re:Not a softphone by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      My guess is that his customers are calling Aspect and not him. Rather than have Aspect call him when a call comes, Aspect calls at the beginning of the day and stays in a phone call with him all the time. When Aspect gets a call for him it sends a message to his phone (whispering, "You've got a call"). Well, he doesn't want to be listening in to this Aspect call constantly waiting for some message. He wants to listen to music in the mean time. But he also doesn't want to miss that message when it comes. I agree that it could have been described better. I think what he wanted was fairly clear...but the why was confusing. Now he's getting frustrated because people are suggesting he doesn't need what he knows he needs. They are just trying to be helpful and working with the best knowledge they have but he wishes they would just accept that he needs a solution to do X rather than assume he wants to do X only so he can do Z and describe how he can bypass X altogether.

    13. Re:Not a softphone by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

      HEY MAN!!!! I've got the solution!!!!!!!...Dial-up.

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    14. Re:Not a softphone by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

      Aaaaaaaaah, now I get it.
      OK, there is a way to set this up under Windows XP, I haven't found anything in Vista yet, although I've been activaly looking for it for 8 months, ans I can't speak for Linux etc. (chances are you're not running this Aspect thingamajig on Linux, am I right?)
      Control Panel>Sounds and Audio Devices>Hardware tab>Properties>Properties tab(redundant but true)>Mixer Devices>Select sub-branch>Click on Properties(trust me)>Select "Do not use mixer features on this device".
      This will cause the foreground application to monopolize your hardware and cut off whatever else is generating sound on the PC. I think we've got it now. Pls test and confirm that it works for ye.

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    15. Re:Not a softphone by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      Nope the modem doesn't show up as an audio device, I may have purchased a modem that doesn't support speakerphone. I checked with the mfg. website and that seems to confirm this. I have however thanks to the help of fellow slashdotters found software that will work perfectly for my application. Now I just need a modem that works perfectly with said software. (This is what I get for believing the guy at the store)

    16. Re:Not a softphone by 0xygen · · Score: 1

      There are definitely still tools to let you dial directly, but I do not think many will let you select to automatically mute certain audio sources.

      Googling for freeware modem dialler shows up a bunch of apps that might suit you.

      Scarily, I think Vista might actually handle this better - it allows per-application muting very easily, so you could switch between your entertainment and the phone call with a click, but really you seem to want something automated.

    17. Re:Not a softphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, fuck you fucktard. All I fucking didwasasked for fucking help and you slashbot fucks respond with your usual fucking elitist, snobish attitudes. So why don't you go and eat shit, fuck off and die with all of your butt-buddies.

      - TheJerbear79 (1316155)

    18. Re:Not a softphone by Hamoohead · · Score: 1

      The technique is called ducking. Be sure to set the release to several seconds on the compressor or there is a chance that the compressor will "pump" or "breathe" the entertainment audio if there are any pauses in the conversation. It may, however be better for you to control your audio level manually, because the undesired audio will not lower in volume until your first word is spoken resulting in a definately audible distraction. You could get around that by using a compressor with a VCA control input connected to a phone line in use detector (eliminating the LED and routing those connections to the compressor's VCA control input) , but I suspect this is overkill. Just use the faders.

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    19. Re:Not a softphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still don't understand why you want to use a modem at all? You have a bunch of audio devices -- a computer, a TV, a music player, a telephone, etc. -- and you just want to combine their output through an audio mixer into a set of headphones, right?

      So what is the modem is supposed to do?

  4. I realise this is totally unacceptable by sleeponthemic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My reason is this: if I'm watching a movie or listening to an MP3 while I'm waiting for a call, I don't want it to ever be apparent to the person who is on the phone with me,

    It won't be.. because you'll have paused it before answering the phone because you can't hear what they are saying if it is still playing.

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    1. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by Samah · · Score: 1

      I don't see that as unacceptable. Sounds sensible to me.

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    2. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by Heembo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't agree - the poster is smart to want the entertainment audio to *forcibly, automatically* lower when his (money making) phone call arrives.

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    3. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by Fex303 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely. I've paused playback from computer to take personal calls and then accidentally started it playing again (stupid me for making my play/pause keybindings something easy to reflexively push). Not a problem for my personal calls, but it would be totally unacceptable for business calls.

    4. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by ByTor-2112 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even better, write a script that looks for the good old "RING" text coming down a serial port and automagically mutes the audio. Problem solved.

    5. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by sleeponthemic · · Score: 1

      I don't agree - the poster is smart to want the entertainment audio to *forcibly, automatically* lower when his (money making) phone call arrives.

      Are you saying you might have seen through my "insightful" post to the true "pedantic" nature? :-)

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    6. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe you shouldn't be slacking off and watching tv/movies while you're supposed to be working?

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    7. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by Fex303 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh yes, here we are on slashdot, where no one has EVER done anything on work time except work diligently.

    8. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by tepples · · Score: 1

      Maybe you shouldn't be slacking off and watching tv/movies while you're supposed to be working?

      Some people are on call 24/7 for one reason or another, and they get paid accordingly.

    9. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It sounds like you are doing customer service work at home, which is exactly what my wife does. So here's a hint regarding watching or listening to other media during your scheduled work hours - don't. First, your call volume is likely to be such that, unless you can comprehend media in 5 second increments, the experience is likely to be unsatisfying. Second, assuming you do run into some slack time, changing over from media to active customer service can be mentally jarring, and you are likely to fumble through your first few seconds of the call while you reorient yourself. My wife sticks to diversions on the computer - [alt-tab] is like a mental switch for her, and she doesn't get into anything too in depth.

      As for hardware, buy the best CONVENTIONAL setup you can afford. A decent wireless handset and good headset isn't really that expensive, and it is equipment you are relying on to make your money - your customers (and employer) aren't going to take "hold on while I fix my software config" as an excuse. You emphasized that VOIP is NOT an option - my guess is that's an employer mandate? the reason for that is that they do not want their users to get to cute with the fancy getups.

      There's a reason it's called PLAIN Old Telephone Service - running it through hardware and software so you can fill time with entertainment sort of defeats the purpose, does it not?

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    10. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by Doggabone · · Score: 1

      Why, I'm working diligently right now!

    11. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

      Hey, you. NO LOAFING!

    12. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      If you're on call 24/7, I'm pretty sure that whoever's calling you would understand that you don't sit by the phone waiting for it to ring.

      Also, when the phone rings and I'm watching a movie, I pause it. That usually keeps it from making noise while I'm on the phone.

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    13. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by tepples · · Score: 1

      Also, when the phone rings and I'm watching a movie, I pause it.

      I believe the OP was looking for something that would pause it for him when the modem detects a ring.

    14. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      It's called a computer mouse/keyboard/remote control.

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    15. Re:I realise this is totally unacceptable by tepples · · Score: 1

      Does "a computer mouse/keyboard/remote control" have a single button for "pause whatever program is making noise, no matter what it is"?

  5. Hardware maybe? by scdeimos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A lot of speakerphone capable modems have a set of line-out/speaker jumpers on the board as well as the 1/8" jacks on the back panel. Can't you just link that to the line-in jumpers on your sound card and then run it all through the Volume Control mixer of your choice?

  6. Maybe it's not really a problem. by deft · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know, as a voice actor/actress, a little mp3 music in the background might not be a bad thing, maybe set the mood. Perhaps you dont need all the fangled gadgetry.

    best of luck with the new job!

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    1. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by antic · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's nice and all, but I suspect "movie or mp3" is nerd code for porn here and this guy will be doing a lot of "hard work" from home.

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    2. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      this guy will be doing a lot of "hard work" from home.

      Better at home than at the office.

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    3. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      this guy will be doing a lot of "hard work" from home.

      Better at home than at the office.

      I thought your medication was supposed to control those urges?

    4. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know, as a voice actor/actress

      I'm sure there are lots of people here who are just dying to know which. I'm also sure there are quite a few who aren't that fussy.

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    5. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn to quote.

    6. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's great, until you loose a call because the caller hates your choice of Slayer - Raining Blood as the background music.

    7. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by LuxMaker · · Score: 1

      You know, as a voice actor/actress, a little mp3 music in the background might not be a bad thing, maybe set the mood. Perhaps you dont need all the fangled gadgetry.

      Until the **IA gets a hold of you.

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    8. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      That's great, until you loose a call because the caller hates your choice of Slayer - Raining Blood[sic] as the background music.

      "Reign in blood kind of kills my boner." -Martin

    9. Re:Maybe it's not really a problem. by wolfperson1 · · Score: 1

      My guess is the poster is female, but doesn't necessarily subscribe to gender-specific terms for (her, I think) career. I know plenty of people who don't even use the term actress anymore and refer to everyone as an "actor."

  7. Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Dear slashdot, I have a work at home job and want to watch porn during business hours. How do I stop callers from listening in? My budget is exactly $0."

    *sigh*

    You probably can't get the raw audio from your modem. Hardly any modems do full-duplex audio.

    Get a phone with a headset jack and an automatic audio switch.

    If you really want to go ghetto you could have one earphone connected to your PC and the other to the incoming call. That's probably the cheapest way to make sure the callers never hear you listening to porn.

    1. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Correction:

      Dear slashdot, I am a phone sex operator and want to watch porn during business hours. How do I stop callers from listening in? My budget is exactly $0.

    2. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by supernova_hq · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, I have an even easier system, my friend did this at a lan party (he had his music on one machine, his game on another).

      1) Buy 2 pairs of headphones (One big muff-type set and one ear-bud type set)
      2) Put the earbuds in and the muff-style ones over top.
      4) Hook one to the phone, the other to the computer

      Problem solved!

    3. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You probably can't get the raw audio from your modem. Hardly any modems do full-duplex audio.

      The early 1990s called. They want their modems back.

      Nearly all modems today are just cheap soundcards with a relay attached (i.e., softmodems). They can almost all do full duplex audio. I know, because I did a bunch of research into the subject when setting up vgetty in linux.

      You'd even be hard pressed to find a hard modem that doesn't do full duplex. Since it doesn't cost them any, they usually include that feature just so that they can advertise that it can do soft phone stuff.

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    4. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make that joke, but for the description provided that is exactly how work from home phone sex lines operate. I wouldn't be half surprised if the truth in this AskSlashdot was that he is a gay phone line operator. Hey, it's meant to be quite well paying ...

    5. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by david.given · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, I use vgetty as an answerphone --- I have it set up so that messages get ogg compressed and emailed to me (because I'm much more likely to actually *get* them that way than I would if I simply relied on noticing the flashing light on the answering machine).

      What software is available that can make use of the modem in full duplex mode? I know, for example, that Asterisk can't, and requires weird proprietary hardware rather than a standard modem, which is a shame, because modems are practically free these days.

    6. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by bsDaemon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Might your friend happen to be largely deaf now?

    7. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      With my luck some old bag would call for help with support for her printer mid-wank. No, not what I'm planning. :-) Thanks for your advice though.

    8. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by dosymedia · · Score: 0

      you said "big muff"

    9. Re:Your hardware probably isn't capable at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's why I said it. I'm surprised more people didn't pick up on it.

  8. one solution by alonsoac · · Score: 1

    you can get a Linksys 3102 voip adapter. You plug in the land line and network cable to the adapter and connect with a softphone like X-Lite from the PC to the adapter to get the calls.

    1. Re:one solution by kwark · · Score: 1

      That would be my suggestion: just use voip already, your reason for not using voip is just silly. Good softphones will let you run scripts to mute/pause your mediaplayer.

      Added bonus of a spa 3102 is you can still use a plain old telephone if you want to.

  9. Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why make it so complicated?
    All you need is to have the modem connected to your land line. your modem should then be able to tell some script or program that the phone is ringing so the program/script can pause your movie

    1. Re:Simple solution by jd · · Score: 1

      Depending on the modem and the driver, all you need is something that pauses the movie or lowers the volume on that input to the mixer when the ring line is raised. As almost all softphone systems that support serial port or modem usage track the ring line, this should be pretty straightforward. In the event of telemarketers calling during business hours, I also suggest finding a good ring oscillator or some other really jarring sound distortion filter.

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  10. Go with Plantronics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Plantronics makes great phone headsets for the call center industry. They have some models that take audio from a phone and audio from a PC, so you can listen to audio from your PC while you wait for a call.

    It sounds like you're unfortunate enough to work for a very cheap company that forces its call center employees to work from home, and won't even buy/loan you a decent phone.

    I'd look for another job asap.

    Here's an even simpler option: get one of the multimedia USB keyboards with many extra buttons. One of them is usually the volume/mute button.

  11. Which OS? by bloodninja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this for your Amiga box, or the C64?

    Really, if you don't tell us what OS you are using, it will be hard to suggest software. Not all /.ers still run slackware.

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    1. Re:Which OS? by T3Tech · · Score: 1

      Not all /.ers still run slackware.

      No? Did I miss the story on the official change of /. user OS?

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    2. Re:Which OS? by pla · · Score: 4, Funny

      Really, if you don't tell us what OS you are using, it will be hard to suggest software. Not all /.ers still run slackware.

      Well, sure, not on all of them... Gotta admit, that young upstart Debian makes a heck of a desktop machine. But still Slackware on all the "important" machines, naturally.

    3. Re:Which OS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are in Mac you want to check "phone valet" an expensive but apparently exellent solution.

      If you're on Linux you can follow the project "ANT is not a phone" which aims at the basic functionalities of phone valet

      If you're in Windows.. don't know

    4. Re:Which OS? by juanitobanana · · Score: 1

      I posted the last comment and I AM NOT a COWARD! (just new)

    5. Re:Which OS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't post the last comment and I AM NOT A BANANA! (Jackass! >:( )

    6. Re:Which OS? by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      Yes, we're all using GNU/Hurd now.

    7. Re:Which OS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don your robe and wizard hat.

    8. Re:Which OS? by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      Good catch, something I forgot to post. Due to limitations of other tools I use for work, I'll be using XP Pro. (and I don't like linux as an end user environment anyway, but that's tertiary to the point)

    9. Re:Which OS? by Gazzonyx · · Score: 1

      That's too funny! I just replied to someone a thread up about trying to run a modem under Slackware

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    10. Re:Which OS? by rootooftheworld · · Score: 1

      Oh, that Linux thing? Tell me, is it really better, cuz I've been runin' Plan 9 for ages now, and everything is tops!

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  12. new modem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a modem, back in the day, that had it's own headphone and mic jacks. I used it to make POTS calls just by sending an AT string with the number to dial and some other codes to turn on the jacks.

    I cant remember any of the specifics, but i'm sure it is possible to do. Modems are dirt cheap, maybe you could find one with this ability?

  13. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been looking at this for quite a while as I was looking for exactly the same thing some months ago. On MAcintosh they have an apparently amazing solution which is http://www.phonevalet.com "phone valet", but it is pretty expensive (comes with hardware and therefore they will ripp your heart off)
    On the Linux side there is an interesting project being developped which apparently aims to do the same basic functions:
    ANT is not a phone http://www.antcom.de/ant-phone/

    I hope someone who knows about this can give us more options as this is all I found (I haven't been looking much for windows anyway)

  14. old HP had this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back when I had an HP desktop, it came with software to do exactly this. I don't remember the model number, but brand new it came with a 166MHz processor and 16MiB of RAM.

    My guess is that this is hard to do because it requires treating the modem as a sound card. Non-winmodems act like serial ports, which cannot act like sound cards for your purposes. Winmodems can do this, but there isn't one standard driver for all winmodems. I suspect my HP "phone" program was designed specifically for the modem that came with the machine.

    1. Re:old HP had this by fishyfool · · Score: 1

      It came with an Aztec modem soundcard combo. They came in a few hp's and a whole lot of packard bells.

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  15. You're looking at this as a software problem... by subreality · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... But as someone who dabbles in both sides, I'd suggest you look into hacking some hardware.

    I don't have enough details to give you the specifics, but here's a generic solution in general terms:

    First, look how you can simplify your problem. Does the music really need to be through the same headset? If you can play it through speakers, you can eliminate mixing, which makes things easier. If you need to mix, it depends what kind of headset you have. USB? Line out/mic-in? USB will limit your options.

    I'll assume it's analog, so we need to mix a line-level out from your sound card with a line-level out from the phone. Many cheap phones provide a line-out, or you can just add an amp to the handset connection of your existing phone, or perhaps even get away with just a transformer or even wiring straight in. Experiment and see what works.

    Mixing can be done with a DJ-style mixer. This also gives you convenient knobs to turn up and down your music and callers' voices. So just plug the sound card line out and the phone's line out into the mix board and you're ready to go.

    You'll need some sort of switch to answer your phone. Buy a DPDT toggle switch. Wire one half into the phone's hook switch. Use the other half to control a mute button / kill switch / input select / any other control on your DJ mixer which can be used to cut out the music input. If your mixer doesn't have this, or you mix some other way, you can use the second half of the switch to control a pair of relays, which cut out the signal from the sound card. Now you can answer without picking up the handset, and the music will cut out at the same time.

    Possible variations on this theme: Wire the phone line-out to your computer's line-in, and wire the second half of the DPDT to control a pin on your parallel port, then write a small program to poll the port and mute the line-in or pause the MP3 playback when the bit toggles. This moves some functionality into the computer; I'm sure you can figure out the tradeoffs.

    The advantages of a hardware solution like this are: Your phone no longer depends on the computer to work; you get convenient hardware knobs to adjust the audio; you can answer the phone with a hardware switch instead of trying to find your phone app; and you hopefully have fun hacking together a simple but useful electronics project.

    Good luck with your new job, and whatever phone solution you create!

    1. Re:You're looking at this as a software problem... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Yeah, duh. Really. No software solution is going to pause all possible sound generating applications.

      Except you don't need a 'DJ mixer', and you don't need to wire anything into your phone. At least not for what he wanted.

      He, and I know this sounds weird, apparently takes the phone off the hook and it stays off the hook, connected to his business. Presumably there's something that says 'incoming call' on the audio.

      What he actually needs is a switch that disables the microphone when the second audio channel is being mixed into his headphones.

      He could probably fake this with a cheap A/V switcher, one with RCA video. Hook the computer audio to one side, and take the audio output and splice it into the headset before it's plugged into the phone. (They have adapters for that.)

      Then hook the mic from the headset into the other video input, and plug the video output into the phone. (Notice I did that backwards. Some want the signal to only go one direction, and have filters and the signal goes from the microphone to the phone. This would be annoying if we were switching between multiple mics, but we aren't.)

      Or he can by a button-switchable KVM with audio connections. That does exactly the same thing, but the plugs are in the right format, although it's a bit more expensive. It's possible that someone out there is producing an audio-only switcher.

      Alternately, and much cheaper, he can just buy two inline mute buttons for those two things, and mix the computer audio after that point. And always be sure to disable the computer audio before enabling the microphone, and vis versa.

      It's entirely possible his headset already has a mute button for the mic, so all he's have to find is one of those for the computer. You can buy them at Radio Shack for a few dollars. It's a tiny fraction more work than a single switch, but seriously.

      Alternately, he can buy a TDTP (Triple pole, double throw) switch, or a 'DTDP' that is set up to handle stereo audio channels, and wire it himself. (Some people might assume he could disconnect the ground instead of the stereo channels, but that will probably not work.)

      Honestly, this question is incredibly dumb. Diverting the audio through a computer serves no purpose. VOIP apps cannot pause all sound applications, and, more to the point, are unlikely to be willing to leave the phone off the hook all the time and the mic off, and only pause apps when the mic is on. Almost all of them pause apps when the phone is answered, and that's all.

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  16. Not allowd to hear the movie? by houghi · · Score: 1, Redundant

    How about turning the music/movie off when a call comes in? Or just on hold.

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  17. this software might help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was looking for exactly the same thing some months ago. On Macintosh they have an apparently amazing solution which is http://www.phonevalet.com "phone valet", but it is pretty expensive (comes with hardware and therefore they will ripp your heart off)
    On the Linux side there is an interesting project being developped which aims to do the same basic functions:
    ANT is not a phone http://www.antcom.de/ant-phone/

    I hope someone who knows about this can give us more options as this is all I found (I haven't been looking much for windows anyway)

  18. Keen.com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keen.com, liveadvice.com, niteflirt.com - I suggest you nose around these sites and see if you can figure out how they do it (they have a TON of infrastructure on their end)

  19. Voice/Speakerphone modem software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the info you're looking for is here: http://www.modemsite.com/56K/voice.asp
    Quoting: "Voice modem chipset makers include in the driver or firmware code to interface to the wave device, but do not develop the software that provides voice functionality. The modem makers generally bundle "compatible" third-party voice modem software. Some voice modem software offerings: Ring Central, BVRP, and Messaging Software."

  20. Maybe its your choice of music by failedlogic · · Score: 1, Funny

    I bet OP is in his 50s and listens to Spice Girls cover songs of Metallica, AC/DC and Eminem songs. Its not just the swear words that are embarrassing, its the music itself.

    Or maybe he's listening to mainstream movies with suggestive titles: Die Hard, Dirty Harry, The Italian Job.

    So listen to some New Age Mediation music and watch Fried Green Tomatoes.

    Problem solved!

    1. Re:Maybe its your choice of music by couchslug · · Score: 3, Funny

      "So listen to some New Age Mediation music and watch Fried Green Tomatoes."

      A bullet would be quicker and far less painful.

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    2. Re:Maybe its your choice of music by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      LOL Do I really sound like someone soon for an AARP membership? I listen to alternative, classical, electronica,hip hop, jazz, swing, or ska. Just about everything. I think the only styles I don't like are R&B and corntry.

    3. Re:Maybe its your choice of music by failedlogic · · Score: 1

      I don't get why I got flaimbait and you get funny. Some people can't really take a joke. Sheesh! I won't write any funny comments on /. anymore.

  21. Perhaps something here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.GNUtelephony.org/

  22. Get Real! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you want to do business... do business... don't be cheap.... and stop playing around with

    "soundcards and what if I'm listening an mp3... and what if whatever"

    Get an asterisk setup... connect your land lines in there.... set up an auto attendant and a voice mail for when you are not near the phone to pick up.

    Get a PHONE... if you want quality with your paying customers, get a phone.... what's the big deal? A cisco 7940 is like 50 bucks in ebay this days.... is compatible with most "real" headsets, and will give you the best voice quality in the market.

    I mean.... a cheap computer to run asterisk with one of those Intel Modems (15 bucks) to connect your land line.... like 80 bucks for an old machine (any old P3 or P4 will suffice)... a cisco phone, like 50 bucks.... total budget 145 bucks (ebay)....

    What do you get with that? proven performance that is business quality, that everyone knows that works.... when I'm doing business that is what I want.

    do you want to start a company with less than 145 bucks for phone infrastructure? come on! get real!

    1. Re:Get Real! by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      I'm not starting a company. They aren't my customers. It's a JOB not an adventure. :-) Why would I want to spend MY money on something that should be (and is) being provided by my employer. They're sending me a really nice $80 phone I don't want to use.

  23. Go with asterisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apart from being rather easy to run and maintain, it has a good deal of web resources to get started and can be done with relatively inexpensive hardware.

  24. Re:You know the best way to deal with FP's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess you took someones advice about sticking to your day job

  25. Uhm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's a..."modem?"

  26. Silly rabbit ... by psergiu · · Score: 0

    ... learn your Hayes AT command set.

    To answer without expecting carrier and all volumes loud should be something like:

    ATX0L3M3A

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    1. Re:Silly rabbit ... by RogerWilco · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was also thinking something along those lines. Those more fancy AT commands are often non-standard on your basic modem, so you'll need to read the manual to see what does what.

      In general there should be a command to just pick up the phone on an incoming RING and wait for the user to +++ATH and also keep the volume enables (default it goes off after the handshake, but if incoming is VOICE, then it will need some special commands anyway).

      Should be trivial to at least hear what is happening on any half decent modem, you'll need one where you can talk back from your microphone, and where preferably the audio from your modem is piped into your soundcard mixer too.
      I'm not so sure about that part of the setup, will depend on the drivers and hardware of the modem. An external modem might be an advantage here, if it has audio in/out.

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  27. what now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good grief, use a regular phone to answer calls and hit pause or mute, as need decrees. Why the heck do you need to overthink this?

  28. Remember doing this once by BrianRagle · · Score: 1

    Maybe I am dating myself here, but I remember doing this all the time in the late 80s/early-90s, using my franken-puter and the software bundled with the stupidly expensive modem. Variations on the WinFax line up of software could accomplish this, despite having "fax" in the name, leading one to believe it was only for faxes.

    As some of the whippersnappers on here may or may not recall, a "fax" was the way we used to "send pages" to other folks, magically transforming hard-copy on one end, into sounds transmitted over the line to become hard copy on the other end. It was truly a marvelous age!

    Now git offa my lawn!

    1. Re:Remember doing this once by bestinshow · · Score: 1

      "Maybe I am dating myself here"

      Aren't most Slashdotters?

      Personally, for the problem the poster has, I'd just hit the pause button on the media player. Muting audio automatically is all very good but annoying if the video keeps playing and you lose track of where you are, so you definitely want to pause it. PC audio out of desktop speakers which you can hear quite well despite wearing a phone headset for the phone calls.

    2. Re:Remember doing this once by BrianRagle · · Score: 1

      I tend to agree that some overthinking is happening here with the original poster. It seems to me there those who often use a modern bit of technology, such as a VoiP app like Skype, which does more or less what he is asking regarding media control when a call comes in, and then expect all apps to do the same, whether they are of this century or not. Sometimes, ya just gotta pause the thing manually.

    3. Re:Remember doing this once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, so when you faxed, you had a piece of paper that you put into a machine, and then you could send that same piece of paper to a friend?

      Wow, what incredible technology!!!

      Uh, yeah, have your company give you access to their softphone that they use, because they use it at their brick and mortar sites, so ask them for it on your WAH calls

    4. Re:Remember doing this once by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      "Maybe I am dating myself here"

      Aren't most Slashdotters?

      It's not as if anyone else would. (Apologizes to Scott Adams ... )

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  29. Why? Overkill? by evilviper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Rather than using a regular handset or obtaining a nice business phone with a headset and speakerphone, I would like to use my PC's modem in conjunction with a normal PC headset and soundcard.

    What?

    You find yourself in need of a $10 headset for your telephone, so, of course, your first reaction is to dedicate your far more expensive, terribly power wasting, and necessarily less-reliable computer to the otherwise unimaginably simple job... It makes perfect sense!

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  30. The first thing I though of when I read this by rikkards · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I recently accepted a work-from-home job that will involve using my landline to talk to customers.

    Please take me off your call-list :)

    1. Re:The first thing I though of when I read this by karnal · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can do - what's your phone number?

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    2. Re:The first thing I though of when I read this by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      No NO! It's not what you think I swear!! I don't make cold calls! People call ME! I'm going to lose karma over this I know it. :-( I've had a telemarketing job. I quit the day I called someone who was dead, and never looked back.

    3. Re:The first thing I though of when I read this by dasuser · · Score: 1

      My guess would be 867-5309.

    4. Re:The first thing I though of when I read this by gasmasher · · Score: 1

      I've had a telemarketing job. I quit the day I called someone who was dead, and never looked back.

      The important thing is did you make the sale?

    5. Re:The first thing I though of when I read this by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 1

      Which is precisely why I quit that job lol

  31. Bigger issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're employed with a call center, you've got bigger issues to deal with. Don't work from home! Its bad enough that all of these companies outsource their calls! Don't make it worse by working from home instead of the call center! You're ruining it for everyone!

  32. Microsoft's Telephony API, maybe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last year I had to write some software for a PC modem under Windows and I used Microsoft's "Telephony API" or "TAPI" to do it.

    What I as told during that process was that there really aren't any PC modems out there anymore that support two-way voice communications.

    This is, I was informed, a hardware issue, and there's no possible way round this limitation.

    I can't verify that as true and it's been a long time since I used the software, but the Microsoft newsgroup for TAPI was still quite active back then, and they should be able to tell you what modems you can buy to get yourself closer towards this goal.

    Dunno if you've found a solution elsewhere in the thread, but TAPI seemed very robust and full-featured when I used it, and has been available from Windows 98 onwards as an integral part of the operating system, as far as I remember.

  33. BVRP Phone Tools by CerealFan · · Score: 1

    Try scouring the net for an older version of BVRP Phone Tools.

  34. Lets talk about the KISS method... by quetwo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, I know /.ers love to involve their computer with everything. The suggestions of using modems and pinning out the audio seam pretty innovative, but in all reality when you start to mix non-phone equipment with the phone you will loose quality. Just trust me on this one. What I would suggest is that you get a nice Uniden or Cortelco phone. Uniden's you can find at pretty much any Best Buy or Target. Cortelco's are available at Greybar or similar contractor stores. Most of these phones have speakerphone and a headset plug. In the phone world, headset plugs come in pretty much three styles -- separated MIC/LINE (used mostly with computers), Cell-Phone combined (mini, mono connector that carries both in one plug), and a QuickDisconnect (flat, 4-connector headset used by people in the PBX world). Unidens and Cortelco's will most likely have the cell-phone combined connector. You can walk over the the cell-phone side of whatever store you are at and get a descent headset. All of these phones have mute buttons, that are usually very easy to find. There is no need to add the complexity and unreliability of adding in components that aren't designed to do this task. Remember, it is your job on the line, so you may want to spend the $25 for the solution above and do it right.

    1. Re:Lets talk about the KISS method... by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Right but I can't wear two headsets at the same time. I know I can just go skipping off to the Walmart/Target/Radio Hut/Whatever RIGHT NOW and get a phone that will allow me to answer the phone perfectly. That's not something I would need the help of the entire slashdot community to get done. K? Thx

  35. Stop trying to use a Modem.... try this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) get a cheap ATA like the LinkSys SPA3102. It has FXO and FXS. $75 or less.
    2) install an Asterisk server (or whatever flavor of linux PBX you prefer). Free!
    3) hang a cordless phone off the FXS port (in case you are away from your desk, drinking mai-tai's by the side of the pool)
    4) call the telco and get a 2nd phone # (not line) and assign a distinctive ring (if you would like to differentiate between WORK calls and personal and use the PBX to make some decisions based on the ring. You don't NEED this, but it will keep the kids from answering and is cheaper than a 2nd line, although I recommend a dedicated 2nd line.)
    5) install the X-Lite softphone on your PC and connect it to the asterisk PBX on an extension. (or use whatever softphone you like that supports SIP or IAX)
    6) If you have 2 lines, you can even configure some follow-me roaming style ring groups and reach out to your cellphone if you are away.

    Now you can listen to MP3's, play Doom/Quake, get drunk by the side of your pool, while still appearing as though you are sitting behind a desk that you spent 1 hour in traffic to get to.

  36. dude..... by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    you work for dell

    ;)

  37. Finally starting that home 1-900 business. ;^) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can imagine that no one would want packet loss when listening to a phone sex line but do you really want to be coupled to your computer while helping someone get their jollies?

    I'd think you'd want to be able to move around the house and do other things.

  38. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you just do you freaking job - no wonder the dollar is a useless currency

  39. Something like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I think the poster is looking for something like this, though perhaps cheaper.

    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/20024

    I'm also rather surprised this basic functionality isn't more widely available, or built into an OS as a gimmick. I remember my first laptop back in '95 came with something similar preinstalled.

  40. VoIP router by clik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hi, do you know this? _http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZBox/FRITZ_Box_Fon_WLAN/index.html this device work as a pbx\asterisk and you can plug in traditional phones and ip phones as you need and route plain old landline to ALL devices connected to. I dont know if work on USA landlines (is a european product) but is a great device I use with satisfaction. Sorry for my little english

  41. Telephony Box by rabun_bike · · Score: 2, Informative

    This solution is not cheap but it is a true solution to your problem. A few years ago I built an automatic voice system for doctors offices. What I found is that although a lot of voice modems have some voice capability but they generally suck when it comes to building a telephony solution. You can read more about that here.

    http://www.exceletel.com/support/hardware/VoiceModems/index.htm

    Telephony cards are not cheap but I finally found a company that makes a external telephony box that did exactly what I wanted. It isn't cheap though but it will give you complete control over the telephone line via your PC.

    http://www.way2call.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=9

    You can program it using their supplied API or using Microsoft TAPI. If that is too daunting then I would recommend using software from this company.

    http://www.exceletel.com/products/teletools.htm

    Good luck!

    1. Re:Telephony Box by CharlieHedlin · · Score: 2, Informative

      The HiPhone desktop at way2call works for what you want to do. They have a very good SDK as well.

      Having used modems with Asterisk you really want a purpose built product, and even the HiPhone is pushing it. After a few years of use the HiPhone will develop hiss and the sound quality decreases.

      We migrated to VoIP (I could get you a deal on the HiPhone having many many of them), but we keep all the IP on our Lan.

      Good luck.

    2. Re:Telephony Box by Jaime2 · · Score: 1

      We are migrating away from Way2Call boxes at my workplace. I was going to suggest this for a home setup but you beat me to it. However, when I took over my job, we were using Way2Call devices through TeleTools. The API for the Way2Call is fairly simple and I solved a lot of reliability problems by scrapping TeleTools and using the Way2Call API from the app. I wouldn't recommend TeleTools to anyone unless they specifically wanted to make an application that is hardware independent.

      We are currently moving to Nortel CCT and will soon be moving some people into a call center with an existing Cisco VOIP infrastructure. I don't know about Cisco, but Nortel's sample software a horrible. The API is callback based and the sample app from Nortel breaks every threading rule that has ever existed. They call it the "Reference Client" and pretend that it is the embodiment of "doing it right". I am actually starting to miss the Way2Call boxes.

  42. Try FreeSWITCH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.freeswitch.org

  43. Try SuperVoice Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.supervoice.com

    Seems to do what you want. You might need to run a wire from your modem to the TAD connector on your sound card.

    Cheers!

  44. Get an FXO device by kriston · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had previously done research on this for a contract and the fact was the only modem that supported voice on POTS was discontinued some years ago. Probably the best solution you will be able to find that is supported, especially on Linux, is the Grandstream HandyTone HT-503 device.

    The non-obvious secret to these devices is that there are two kinds of PSTN connection devices. The first is the simple dial-out-only devices called FXS. You don't want those because they are unable to accept incoming phone calls--they just hook to your telephone desk sets.

    What you want is an FXO device, but be careful. Some devices only accept incoming calls and some only dial out. You want the one that does both, and one that has both FXS and FXO ports on it so you will only need one device for everything you want. The Grandstream HandyTone HT-503 device is that device. (This is the new version of the discontinued HandyTone 488.)

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  45. Getting back to the question... by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 1

    I don't think the OP is interested in VOIP or anything like that. It sounds like he would like to loop the audio through his modem up to his headset. This is possible with "speakerphone voice modems" They aren't oem in many PCs, so unless you bought one you may be out of luck. To tell if you have one fairly easy, take a look at the modem and see if it has a headphone jack on it. If so, yeah! For software, try the free trial of ExpressDial from NCH software. http://www.nch.com.au/dial/index.html

    Good Luck,
    -ellie

  46. Dude... by brassmaster · · Score: 1

    ...get Vonage and use a softphone. Have your calls routed to your Vonage number. Case closed.

    1. Re:Dude... by brassmaster · · Score: 1

      To follow up on my previous thoughts, you sir are an idiot for discounting VoIP out of the gate since you don't even seem to understand what it is. VonagePro will replace your home phone line, will ring to your softphone and normal home phones simultaneously, will give you unlimited long distance, and will do all of this for a FLAT RATE of 34.95 a month. Do yourself a favor.

  47. CallClerk can do this by Animats · · Score: 1

    Try CallClerk. This is a little program whose main function is to receive Caller ID info and do useful things with it, like pop up info from Microsoft Outlook. It implements a speakerphone, which is what you need. It can invoke other programs on call receipt, so you can tie it to a "turn off entertainment" script.

    There are other programs like this, intended for people who make and receive many phone calls and need to log and track them.

  48. I actually have a device that might do that... by Benanov · · Score: 3, Informative

    Up in my closet somewhere I have a PC/POTS switch. It allows you to flip a switch between receiving audio input from the PC and audio input from a POTS system, all on the same headset. It's really simple and I've never used it but I recall that it does work.

    It's remarkably simple and I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.

    If you want it, my email address has been unmasked enough for you to email me. I'll send it to you for cost of shipping.

  49. Re:Why? Overkill? by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 0

    The far more expensive computer which I already own, which will be wasting power while I'm at work regardless, and has more up-time than the viagra mascot? If you're not going to be helpful you could at least not assume I'm retarded.

  50. Duh...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just tie a piece of string from the telephone handset to the volume dial. When you lift the handset the string will pull on the dial and turn it off. Make sure you wind the string counter-noiseupwise or you will have a headache.
    Yer welcome

  51. What a worthwhile article by entmike · · Score: 1

    Why do convoluted questions like these ever see the light of day on the front page of /.?

    1. Re:What a worthwhile article by blang · · Score: 1

      Beats me.

      Looks to me that the OP is a troll playing the slashdot editors for fools.

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  52. Advanced Call Center by protobion · · Score: 1
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  53. Re:Why? Overkill? by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The far more expensive computer which I already own, which will be wasting power while I'm at work regardless, and has more up-time than the viagra mascot? If you're not going to be helpful you could at least not assume I'm retarded.

    I dunno, you clearly are somewhat retarded, when your problem could be solved by a) getting a phone that supported a standard headset, and b) installing a mute switch on your PC audio and mic input, and c) mixing the PC audio and phone audio together before your headset, and d) being smart enough to mute and unmute them in the correct order.

    Here's a free clue for you: No VoIP setup is going to pause your other apps when unmuting your mic. They only do that when they answer the phone, and you have a weird setup where that doesn't apply. So, at best, you'd have to hit a button to pause whatever, hoping you can remember whatever keystroke it is for whatever you're doing, and then another button to unmute the audio.

    Which is obviously much much easier than just having two big mute buttons on your desk, and completely muting your computer audio, despite the application, before unmuting your mic.

    Actually, there are apps that will let you assign global keystrokes to mute audio, or you can just rely on your app pausing...so what you actually need is a phone with a headset plug, an adapter to turn that into a 'normal', two-plug headset, and a stereo 'splitter' backwards that merges in your computer audio, and a computer headset with a mute button. It's entirely possible you have the first and last of those already.

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  54. VOIP is better than you think by melios · · Score: 1

    Just for clarity, I don't want to use a VOIP solution; I need to use my plain old landline. My reason is this: if I'm watching a movie or listening to an MP3 while I'm waiting for a call, I don't want it to ever be apparent to the person who is on the phone with me, and I want to route all the audio I use through a single headset.

    I use an LX-3000 headset I won with points from Live Search Club. There is no "Stereo Mix" option so WAV audio is totally separate from microphone input. Your callers will never hear your media.

    1. Sign up for a number with FreeDigits or GrandCentral.
    2. Configure X-Lite to use either service.
    3. Forward your POTS line to your VOIP number.

    The process is totally transparent to incoming callers. Only one USB headset required.

  55. Re:Why? Overkill? by TheJerbear79 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    a) If that's what I wanted, I already have one. Why would I not use the one I already have if that's what I wanted to do? b) I don't need a physical switch to mute PC audio and mic input, that would be counter productive to what I'm trying to accomplish. c) This is precisely what I'm trying to do via a software solution using my modem and soundcard. Thank you for paying attention. Software used to exist to do this, but it's horribly difficult to find these days. d) I know how to use a mute button. kthx. Here's a free clue for you: I'm not using a VOIP setup. I indicated in my original post that VOIP is not at all even remotely close to what I intend/need to use. The point is there is going to be a delay between when the customer can hear everything that's going on, and when I'll be able to get to the pause button. I want to eliminate that gap by having everything routed through one headset, so I don't want to use speakers at all. I have a really nice logitec keyboard with a mute button. If simply having a button to mute were the problem, I'd look down at my keyboard and hit the button. Don't attack me personally because you don't understand what I'm trying to accomplish or why, just ask questions. I'm a nice guy, I answer them. Don't try to feel better about the fact that you don't understand by trying to make me out to be an idiot, you'll find yourself fighting a losing battle with a superior opponent. One more time, here's what I'm looking for in very easy to understand terms. I'm looking for a piece of software, which will allow the voice modem in my computer to talk to my sound card, such that I can dial out and answer calls on my land line telephone using nothing but my PC and headset. I would imagine this should be a very small simple program, but unfortunately one that very very few have an application for. Thus it's hard to find, or I'm just blind. Either way I came here asking for help with a problem, not to be told the problem doesn't exist.

  56. It's a bit of money, and a bit of effort... by JayGuerette · · Score: 1
    Phone Line Interface/Mixer Kit

    This automatically mixes the phone and a sound source. You could mix them into a headset so the caller couldn't hear it, also allowing you to choose whether you keep the 2nd audio source playing.

  57. Open your eyes. by Xerolooper · · Score: 1

    "I've scoured Google for anything close to this application, and all I've managed to find is information on VOIP software or programs that turn my PC into an answering machine, neither of which will work." If you cannot find it on Google, you are probably not asking the right questions. On the other hand, as I suspect you are rejecting solutions because you do not understand that they are giving you what you want even though they may be advertising what they feel is a more likely scenario to potential customers. The first hit when I searched Google was IVM Answering Attendant Software $40 us which is exactly what your looking for. From their site,"You can make phone calls using your PC sound cardâ Check out their list of compatable modems that will allow you to do what you want. As for switching the audio get a multimedia keyboard that includes a pause button.

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  58. old compaq PC... by Yuan-Lung · · Score: 1

    I had this old compaq PC way back when a 33.6kbps dial-up was a fast modem. It came with a software phone which turns the PC and it's modem into a virtual phone. It was an interesting feature, but I soon realized I was much better off using a separate device for audio calls. They aren't expansive anyways.

  59. Tele-marketing? by SIR_Taco · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's all this talk about assuming he's in 'tele-marketing' and having 'high call volumes'?

    He could very well have a legitimate job for one of 900 number line 'chat with a sexy girl' things.... yes I said he.

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  60. Amen, brother! Also, the "yes game." by pestie · · Score: 1

    I couldn't agree more.

    For lots of fun, answer "yes" to every single question a telemarketer asks. I think there's a video on YouTube of a guy doing this, but I tried it once, and it works. Wow, they sure get pissy after a while! At first it seems like the answer "yes" might make sense, but eventually they start asking for specific pieces of information, to which you keep replying, "yes!" I had to give up after a while because it was just too hard to suppress my laughter.

    My call went something like this:

    Telemarketer: "blah blah blah..."
    Me: "Yes"
    Telemarketer: "I'm looking for a specific number."
    Me: "Yes"
    Telemarketer: "OK, so what it it?"
    Me: "Yes"
    Telemarketer: "Sir, do you understand me? Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth!? I'm looking for a specific number!"
    Me: "Yes"

  61. simple and elegant solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey.. I have a solution for you.. one I use myself..
    just grab a zi-phone from simplesimon.com
    these things are pretty cool.. I have both a zi-phone I and a zi-phone II.. I like the older version better.. but the new version comes with it's own build in sound device..

    works great under windows.. don't know about linux or mac..
    but this thing will do regular line (pots) and also work with ANY voip system..
    the price is not too bad.. if you call them they can give you a better price than what is listed on the site. but this is a really cool telephone.. lets you record calls, play inline audio to your other party. extensive phone book with click to dial.. and a ton of other features..

    it works with everything voip, including asterisk.. and also used your telephone line..
    just thought I would share it with you

  62. Winmodems? by Gazzonyx · · Score: 1

    How are you using vgetty? Are you using a hardware DAC?

    From what I understood, Asterisk can't use regular PCI modems because almost all of them are winmodems. Meaning, they don't have a full firmware stack, but rely on their drivers to supply certain functionality. Namely, proprietary, closed source, non-free (beer or speech) Windows only drivers.

    I've got a box with 5 PCI slots and as many old V.92's lying around that I'd love to get working on a Slackware build, if you know something I don't (not being sarcastic, I'd be really be thrilled if I didn't research far enough to find the answer).

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    1. Re:Winmodems? by david.given · · Score: 1

      I have a real modem that happens to be a PCI modem --- that is, the modem's output UART is wired directly to the PCI bus. It shows up as an extra serial port but ignores the baud rate.

      There's actually a surprising number of them around, but as you say, there's a lot of winmodems and it's rather hard to tell the difference before the fact. The only thing I can suggest is to plug 'em in and look up the PCI IDs.

      I'd actually prefer a USB modem --- that computer only has one PCI slot --- but ordinary, external POTS modems seem to be practically unheard of these days. It's very peculiar...

  63. Plantronics 590 A by jkirby · · Score: 1

    I use the Plantronics 590A with a bluetooth adapter. Works pefect!

    I also hear the new Plantronics Calisto is quite awesome and integrates with your Skype, land-line and cell phone. I may get one for myself :)

    Jamey

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  64. How about a POTS message system too? by PurplePhase · · Score: 1

    I've been looking for a replacement home phone + messaging hardware recently and... well they all suck for one reason or another. The V-Tech stuff has the best sound quality but no headphone jack, so I ended up with a Uniden Dect 6.0 (how secure is that?) with imperfect sound quality (encode/decode lag?)...

    But none of the products has more than 15 minutes of record time, and usually have a lot fewer options than my machine from 10 years ago...

    So... Windows solutions? Or something open? Is there an RJ-11 jack with an SD card slot, 10 buttons and an LCD screen - or do I have to program my own?

  65. TalkWorks by OldeClegg · · Score: 1

    Yep, TalkWorks. It was either part of WinFax, or purchased and combined with it. Last I heard both were bought by Symantec, and eventually retired.

    There's a bit on TalkWorks here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TalkWorks

  66. ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I was using my PC for telephony, I used a program called Advanced Call Center for this type of use but after I switched to VoIP because my ISP provides a free VoIP line I'm not longer using it, but the program is shareware but you can try it if you want.

  67. "Not always" is a pretty big understatement. by Slartibartfast · · Score: 1

    Echo is almost always generated by neither latency or impedence mis-matches. Old, cheap phones are great for causing echo... as is VoIP due to latency. (Which is why "real" VoIP PSTN cards have echo cancellation built-in on DSPs.) Joe PC running Asterisk -- and I love Asterisk -- will almost certainly have some pretty bad echo unless you really damp your rx- and tx-gain. Ironically, echo is usually heard on the opposite end of where it's being caused, which can lead to some confusion.

    $.02, etc.

  68. Re:Why? Overkill? by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The point is there is going to be a delay between when the customer can hear everything that's going on, and when I'll be able to get to the pause button.

    And you completely ignored the obvious solution, the one I actually was talking about when I said 'two mute buttons' which is to mute your telephone microphone, and only unmute it after you mute the other audio. If people appear on the phone line without any input from you, I am rather baffled as to how you currently operate without a mute button.

    This, of course, requires you to be able to a) purchase a phone that has a headset input, and b) purchase a headset with a mute button, (Or purchase a phone and headset in one.) and as you are probably incapable of finding the door in and out of the room you are in and so are currently building a complicated series of ladders and slides out the window for 'convenience', who knows how long that could take.

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  69. Script with AT commands by Carpal+Tunnel · · Score: 1

    I did something like this once. My goal was to connect an international number with my cell phone through my landline (which was actually vonage with an international plan). I would initiate the call using a perl script executed through a page on my private web server. The script would use a terminal application to send AT commands to the modem.

    Call first number
    Wait n seconds
    flashhook
    call second number
    wait n seconds
    flashhook
    (the 2 numbers are now connected)

    This is not exactly what you're looking for, but theoretically you could have a terminal app listen for incoming calls. When a call comes in, it should answer quickly, flashhook, dial your number, flashhook. While i'm sure you could find a way to dail in and give it the forward number, it would probably be easier to have a webface for that. The only issue here is that the caller might be confused. They would hear the ringing stop and then after a pause hear more ringing before you pick up. There may be a way to have your computer play some kind of "please hold" audio file. I forget what terminal i used, but there are quite a few advanced terminals with scripting ability.

  70. GrandCentral? by Carpal+Tunnel · · Score: 1

    As long as you dont mind giving out a new number, you can use a service like GrandCentral
    http://www.grandcentral.com/