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The Duke Is Finally Back, For Real
After the first announcement on 1997-04-27 and over eleven years of fresh start after fresh start, Duke Nukem Forever finally comes to your system. At least if your system is an Xbox 360. Jon Siegler, the webmaster of 3D Realms, confirms this on their site: "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that the game has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done — it is now in the hands of Microsoft." Update: 08/19 10:47 GMT by T : Several readers have written with a correction: this announcement is actually about Duke Nukem 3D, rather than Duke Nukem Forever.
Standby, I'm seeing pigs flying outside my window.
I've always known that the Apocalypse would fall on a Tuesday.
Uh... no?
The story is about Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade, NOT Duke Nukem Forever.
Bad summary. Bad.
This isn't a release of Duke Nukem Forever, just an updated Duke 3d for Xbox 360...
(As I am sure many posts will correct)
And Here I was looking forwards to it receiving the 2009 Vaporware award of the year! They were going to give it an lifetime non-achievement award too.
This story is about Duke Nukem 3D, not Duke Nukem Forever.
*sigh*
The apocalypse is not upon us. The summary is wrong, for those of you new here. This is Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade and not Duke Nukem Forever.
The announcement is about Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA, not Duke Nukem Forever.
it is now in the hands of Microsoft.
Given how long it was taking, I was under the impression that it had been in their hands all along!
No, /. editors not checking the actually story is not a sign of the Apocalypse.
It's more on the scale of "a sign that /. is not a real news source".
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A Duke Nukem Forever article posted on slashdot, has this ever happened before ?
;)
Results 1 - 10 of about 852 from slashdot.org for duke nukem forever.
Lets hope the game actually gets released before we have to read another 800+ articles about it
You mean Microsoft finally has the hardware to make Duke Nukem playable after all these years?
Stick to software, guys...
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No, /. editors not checking the actually story is not a sign of the Apocalypse.
It's more on the scale of "a sign that /. is not a real news source".
Given your low uid, if you haven't realised this by now its probably something you shouldn't worry about...
A learning experience is one of those things that say, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' - D. Adams
... this announcement, making a clear statement that this is NOT Duke Nukem Forever?
Sorry for shouting, but this is really a complete mess... it might even lead to nervous breakdowns, common outrages, mass panic etc.pp. - not to mention camping havoc before retail stores...
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria... Duke Nukem Forever
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If it had *actually* been Duke Nukem Forever being released, this particular Slashdot meme would be forever dead... I mean, what else would there be for us to complain about?
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Some things was best in their time.
I still play Doom2 and SF2 on XBLA. The latest 3D engine and multi-million dollar game isn't always as good as a re-vamped or rebalanced classic.
Plus, take into consideration several million XB360 owners who weren't old enough to get into these games when they were new and cutting edge.
Finally, I used to dream of having a gigantic display to play Duke on a comfy couch when I was sitting there with my 14" CRT in a $20 used office chair. Freshened graphics on a 50" HD panel in the den, online multiplayer, and better audio will be _that_ dream come true.
After I read the summary I called my boss at home and quit. I then drained our bank account and blew it all on hookers and booze. Now you tell me it was false alarm????? When my wife wakes up what she'll do will make the Apocalypse look like a trip to Disneyland. Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries.
As a practical matter it isn't real likely that DNF would come out now, not just because of it's vaporware status but because it is, yet again, time for another engine change. DNF was being developed on a modified Unreal Engine 2. Ok, no problem... Except that Unreal Engine 3 is out. Not only is it out, there are a bunch of first flight games using it. Bio Shock, Mass Effect, UT3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, this is what people expect new, top of the line shooters to look like. So if they release with a game based on the old engine, well it isn't likely to do so well, especially given all the buildup. Thus they'll need to license UE 3, and then they'll be conversion work for that.
However I suspect what is happening is money is starting to run out. A number of products that they were publishing/producing got transferred to other companies, which suggests they don't have the funds to keep development going. Duke 3D being one of their only properties around, they seem to be trying for another release to get some more cash.
I can't say I'm all that surprised, they have done basically nothing as a developer for over a decade, and not a whole lot as a publisher (most of their stuff published this decade are Duke rehashes for various platforms). It can't be cheap to continue working on this game that's never getting released. Compounding that is licensing cost for buying new game engines all the time. 3D engines from companies like Epic and iD are not cheap, and even less so when it is the top of the line engine. They've thus far bought 3 of them (Quake 2, UE 1 and UE 2) and that is going to hit the bottom line.
Personally, I think they'll go bankrupt before they ever actually get DNF out. Most likely the property will be sold to another studio. Who knows what will come of it? At this point, I just don't see them as being able to get together the money to finish it, even if they did actually stop screwing around and work on getting it out.
w00sh, w00sh, w00sh, w00sh, w00sh...
Xbox 360... shit; I'm still only coding for Xbox 360... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back behind my pc coding Duke Nukem Forever forever. When I was home after my first checkin it was worse. I'd wake up and there'd be nothing. I hardly said a word to my wife, until I said "yes" to a divorce. When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the source code. I'm here a week now... waiting for a lock... getting softer; every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Microsoft squats in the log files, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around, the walls moved in a little tighter.
You just got Dukerolled. :V
I'm wondering if maybe Hurricane78 is a console gamer, and therefore has no knowledge of FPS games on the PC. It's possible people would read "Duke Nukem 3D" and assume it must be the "Forever" game, because that's the only Duke Nukem they're aware of.
After all, generic common-as-muck shooters such as the Halo franchise and Gears of War are elevated to Godlike status by console gamers, and I can only presume it's because they've never actually played shooters before that didn't suck. As far as decent shooters go, consoles don't really have much of a history. There's Goldeneye 007 on the N64, but not much else.
Point being, if you'd never heard of DN3D then you might mistake this announcement as being the final name of the "Duke Nukem Forever" project, in the way that Longhorn became Vista. So maybe that explains the journal entry. kdawson's contribution can be explained by his or her general uselessness as an editor.
The article doesn't lie!
The Duke Nukem episodes ARE going to go on forever.
Why did you do that in the first place? if the End is coming, certainly it means you're just hours away from stripper factories and beer volcanoes.
The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
We're very pleased to announce that "Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox LIVE Arcade" will be coming to your Xbox 360 console soon!
So it's been Duke Nukem 3D we've been waiting for? Or did they change the name from Duke Nukem Forever? Because if you've all been waiting fro Duke Nukem 3D then that's been out for a while and you can all stop holding yer breath. If you are waiting for Duke Nukem Forever.... well then you've still got some waiting to do.
Oh and by the way. According to these articles McCain is actually a space alien and this article clearly states that Obama is a time-traveler. Don't believe me? Read the article... if you don't how would you know if the article says that or not?
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An interesting article - though not just specific to Linux, I think all modern platforms have a lot in common with the Amiga (as for users, well, there are plenty of "smug" OS X users, and many such as myself moved onto Windows).
Did I back the wrong choice by using the Amiga in the 80s/90s whilst others chose a DOS based single-tasking machine where "multimedia" was an optional add on? Yet here I am using machines with multitasking GUIs, fast graphics hardware via dedicated chips as standard. (Introductions to Windows 9x programming articles that were written in the 90s are rather amusing - they are obviously written for DOS users, having to hand-hold the reader through "new" concepts such as multitasking.)
In an alternative world, it might have been another company that bought the Amiga trademark, bought the rights to NeXT, and used it to build a new platform (Amiga OS X?) Instead, it was produced by Apple, and branded a "Mac" - but who cares about being stuck to a particular brandname, I'd rather stick with what works in the way I know. And the experience of modern platforms is at least as close to the Amiga as it is to classic MacOS, and I'd say more so than it is to DOS.
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A more minor error in the story is that my name is not Jon. It's Joe.
-- Joe Siegler,
Webmaster 3D Realms
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Think what you wish.
One of the primary reasons this was done was an exercise for our programmers on 360 coding, how to interface with Live, etc, etc, etc. This was done on a "smaller" project so that kinks and issues can be worked out for the larger project (DNF).
If you want to chicken little the world, go ahead. Doesn't make it right. :)
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At this point the burden of proof is on YOU, my friend. We're not the ones with a decade of bullshit promises that we've never delivered on.
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We're not the ones with a decade of bullshit promises that we've never delivered on.
You're thinking of Will Wright. The DNF team has been making promises for more than a decade.
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Tropical storm blowing outside, sky all dark, internet out so I'm having to use neighbor's wifi, and now I thought for a moment Duke Nuke'em Forever was finally coming out. I expected to see another sign of the apocalypse at any moment!
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A) 173945 is a low UID these days? Shit, I'm pissed I didn't sign up with my friend in the 14,000s... and he's pissed he didn't sign up before there were UIDs.
B) You missed his joke. He is fully aware of the fact /. isn't a fact checked news source and was just pointing out that this retarded "story" is something that should surprise nobody.
C) Screw you, Jogar the Barbarian (5830)... you are supposed to wait for a 5 digit to post before you as a 4 digit posts. Then someone with a 3 digit should post. That's how low UID epeen threads are supposed to go.
IANAL, but I play one on
As the other poster said, the burden of proof is on YOU. I've been hearing of DNF for over a decade, and thus far there's nothing to show for it. I don't claim to be an expert on the development cycle, but I do know more than a little about computer technology. I know that things change FAST and what you did 10 years ago doesn't cut it today.
You want people like me to quit giving you shit for rehashes of Duke 3D? Then release DNF, and it'd better not suck. You can't do that because it's still not "done" after a decade of work? Well then expect to take crap. In the time you have been not releasing DNF, Epic (another shareware company from the DOS days) has managed to Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Unreal II, UT2003, UT2004, UT3, Gears of War, and soon Gears of War 2. All this while managing to develop 3 versions of a top notch engine that now runs a large amount of the shooters out there (yours included, if you ever get it out).
You can maybe see why then people are a little disdainful of what you've accomplished, or rather not accomplished. It isn't as though I can't go on for other game development studios. How about Bioware, who has done Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (and expansions), MDK2, Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect, as well as the Infinity, Aurora and Odyssey engines. Other development houses have been producing many works over this decade, and not just yearly titles that suck, great games that stand the test of time.
So expect the skepticism, criticism, and outright mocking to continue unless you put up the goods. A decade is an unheard of amount of time for game development.
DN3D != DNF
Article Summary == Wrong
Editors == Fail
Yes, but who tagged it "epicfail?"
It's "3D Realms" that failed, not Epic.
Clearly, that's an entirely different company.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").