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San Fran Hunts For Mystery Device On City Network

alphadogg writes "With costs related to a rogue network administrator's hijacking of the city's network now estimated at $1 million, city officials say they are searching for a mysterious networking device hidden somewhere on the network. The device, referred to as a 'terminal server' in court documents, appears to be a router that was installed to provide remote access to the city's Fiber WAN network, which connects municipal computer and telecommunication systems throughout the city. City officials haven't been able to log in to the device, however, because they do not have the username and password. In fact, the city's Department of Telecommunications and Information Services isn't even certain where the device is located, court filings state."

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  1. Simple: by SilentBob0727 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Power cycle it with a city-wide EMP.

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    1. Re:Simple: by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Funny

      All they have to do is look for the small black box with a lone, onerous blinking red LED.

    2. Re:Simple: by bratwiz · · Score: 5, Funny

      All they have to do is look for the small black box with a lone, onerous blinking red LED.

      Don't forget the obligatory RED and BLUE wires. Every small black box with lone onerous blinking red LED MUST have red and blue wires. Its a rule.

    3. Re:Simple: by 74nova · · Score: 2, Funny

      I beg to differ. "Loose" devices are exactly what they're looking for

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    4. Re:Simple: by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      As someone who watches a lot of movies, I think I can help them find it. I suggest you look for the ominous looking computer with a single red eye. You'll know you're close when it activates some devious self-defense system (probably involving poisonous gas). Pay careful attention to the background music, as it will provide valuable cues on when to run.

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    5. Re:Simple: by DittoBox · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Onerous?"

      You mean like...I don't know, dictionaries?

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    6. Re:Simple: by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Funny

      It could be both onerous and ominous.

    7. Re:Simple: by RetiredMidn · · Score: 2, Funny

      More likely multiple LEDs, like this.

    8. Re:Simple: by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, no, no! You have to obliterate the planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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    9. Re:Simple: by Provocateur · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, cool would be having the phone ring and the voice on the other end turns out to be Dennis Hopper:

      Pop quiz, hotshot: your network's all screwed up! What do you do? What do you do?

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    10. Re:Simple: by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

      Could it be related to this firehose entry?

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    11. Re:Simple: by Indras · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no! You have to obliterate the planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

      Didn't work in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

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    12. Re:Simple: by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Whoa!"

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    13. Re:Simple: by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pay careful attention to the background music, as it will provide valuable cues on when to run.

      Oh, please. Movies like that are soooooo 1990s!

      In the new century we handle this sort of scenario with game techniques. You just save the current state of the world every few seconds, while sending your guy out into the field. There won't be any change in the music until it's too late for him, but then you just reload, activate all his power-ups, and go kick the red-eye'd mystery device back to where it came from.

      Just be careful if the red eye is moving from side to side and you catch a glint of silver. Those guys from the sci-fi shows are trying to muscle in on our turf.

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    14. Re:Simple: by Windows_NT · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ive heard stories that relate to this. And its not that someone outside hooked this piece of equipment up, its something they have forgot about.
      I read about a server that was in a room, and the room had some modifications done to it, and they ended up drywalling the server inside the wall (i dont know know how they did it). It ended up being like 5 years later they had no idea where this PDC signal was coming from and they had to physically follow the network cable to the computer and found it.
      I found the story, kind of:
      Server 54

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    15. Re:Simple: by fataugie · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or the guy defusing it is color blind
      (that's why he's wearing orange pants and a lime green shirt).

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    16. Re:Simple: by TheoMurpse · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry, San Francisco, I'm afraid I can't let you do that.

    17. Re:Simple: by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, good point. Now the onus is on him to explain what he meant.

    18. Re:Simple: by Intron · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think we're unanimous.

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    19. Re:Simple: by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The real question, though, is this: If your alternate personality made the bomb, does your present consciousness have the subliminal knowledge of which wire defuses it?

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    20. Re:Simple: by MPAB · · Score: 5, Funny

      And because of Murphy's law the drywalled server never overheats or has downtime, unlike its well-cared-for counterparts.

    21. Re:Simple: by rah1420 · · Score: 5, Funny

      they ended up drywalling the server inside the wall

      For the love of God, Montressor!

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    22. Re:Simple: by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because I'm a fucking dumbass and didn't think about it....

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    23. Re:Simple: by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe he knew you'd know, and he spent all day thinking about the wrong wire.

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    24. Re:Simple: by clone53421 · · Score: 5, Funny

      With a username like "Lord Apathy", I'm guessing he isn't being paid enough to care that much.

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    25. Re:Simple: by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because I'm a fucking dumbass and didn't think about it....

      Are you waiting for someone to disagree with you? ;-)

    26. Re:Simple: by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Modern rouge networked devices don't have red and blue wires. They vibrate. Usually it's someone's electric razor connected to the network, but ever once in a while, it's a dildo with an IP address.

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    27. Re:Simple: by MarkGriz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because I'm a fucking dumbass and didn't think about it....

      You should apply for a job at the San Francisco IT department. I hear they are short an incompetent network administrator.

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    28. Re:Simple: by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you're really lazy, you could also unplug their network cables and see what breaks... :P

      I figured that once I yanked them out of the racks we would see who bitched first then we would know.

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    29. Re:Simple: by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Funny

      With a username like "Lord Apathy", I'm guessing he isn't being paid enough to care that much

      And you would be correct.

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    30. Re:Simple: by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it sounds like they have plenty of those. They got rid of the competent guy, remember...

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    31. Re:Simple: by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      In either case, you definitely want wi-fi and definitely don't want the Sony battery.

    32. Re:Simple: by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's enough verbal onanism for one day.

    33. Re:Simple: by isorox · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because I'm a fucking dumbass and didn't think about it....

      Finally, proof that slashdot helps you at work! I'll redouble my efforts at spending time on this site during work hours

    34. Re:Simple: by ignavus · · Score: 2, Funny

      So you have writing Slashdot posts on your list then?

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    35. Re:Simple: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, it's in San Francisco--it'll start singing show tunes.

      And before anyone gets too pushed out of shape, I'm a third-generation SF native.

  2. Re:MAC search by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd think that a red device would be easy to spot in a server room.

  3. to quote bash.org... by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 4, Funny

    <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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    1. Re:to quote bash.org... by alnya · · Score: 5, Funny

      He placed a rouge device (his personal property) on the SF network

      My guess is it'll be next to his guyliner

    2. Re:to quote bash.org... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Funny

      What is this fascination with red devices? Should I start painting my network gear red?

    3. Re:to quote bash.org... by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I still don't understand why everyone keeps saying the rogue device is red.

    4. Re:to quote bash.org... by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Will you people please learn how to spell rogue correctly?

      1. Yuo must be new here!
      2. How do you know he wasn't referring to a device for applying women's makeup?
      3. Transposition of two letters in a word is a common typographical error and should not be considered idiocy unless the same error is made multiple times in the same post
      4. Logged in users don't have to preview before posting.
      5. If you're going to be a pedant, well, the word "rogue" in your sentence should have quotes around it =P

    5. Re:to quote bash.org... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Funny

      What is this fascination with red devices? Should I start painting my network gear red?

      Of course you should. It makes it operate at faster speeds. I thought everyone knew this.

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    6. Re:to quote bash.org... by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Will you people please learn how to spell rogue correctly?

      That's like lipstick on a pig.

  4. Re:The story keeps changing. by Fx.Dr · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...his boss whom he considered an idiot...I'd have to agree with that assessment

    Second that motion. I'd say these guys are like the Marx Brothers of network administration, except they don't know the Secret Woid, so it looks like they're a couple notches down.

  5. The scene when they find the server by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm sure the scene will be like this:

    As Indy deciphered the symbols, he found the correct sequence of tiles to push. The huge stone door slowly opened. Indy grabbed a torch and headed inside. At the end of the long room, there it was on the throne: A massive server. It was archaic, and it appeared to be attached to a punch card reader. Along the sides of the room, there were two rows statutes of archers pointed at the center. Indy made his way slowly to the monitor and keyboard of the server. He brushed away the dust and hit the spacebar. The screen turned on slowly and it displayed:

    SCO Server 1.0

    Your license has expired. You owe use $699.
    >_

    Suddenly the archers rotated positions and were aimed at Indy.

    "Oh boy."

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    1. Re:The scene when they find the server by vmxeo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Suddenly the archers rotated positions and were aimed at Indy.
      "Oh boy."

      You forgot to mention the part where Indy flashes white and is replaced by Dr. Sam Beckett.

  6. Sparcstation In The Wall by gentimjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recall hearing a story about a Sun Sparcstation 2 at my old college that had accidentilly got sealed inside a wall by construction folks when re-working the building the CS lab was in to eliminate a few closets for structural support reasons.. nobody could find it (shock!), but kept using it as a DNS server for another six years. It was found about 2 years after it stopped responding to ping when some component (nvram?) let out, and it started beeping after a power flicker.

    1. Re:Sparcstation In The Wall by scaryjohn · · Score: 2, Funny

      I bet when the city finds this box, wherever it is, all it will have is one toggle switch labled "Magic / More Magic".

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  7. Re:Please - It's San Francisco or simply "The City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, at least they didn't say "Frisco".

  8. Re:The story keeps changing. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I CAN find a wireless device It's called Radio direction finding, with the right gear you can do it, and I have located 802.11g devices with it. It's not hard.

    so you may start calling me SUPERMAN.

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  9. Where to look... by s0litaire · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did they try the Rouge Admin's office. It's probably that beige box under his desk... Either that or he made up the device and it does not exist, he's laughing at them ripping the place apart trying to find it :D

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    1. Re:Where to look... by caluml · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slightly OT - if Americans spell analogue as analog, why isn't rogue spelled rog?

  10. Re:The story keeps changing. by bratwiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Unless your name is "Superman", there's no real way to find exactly where wireless devices are, as far as I know.

    And exactly how would superman find it? Xray vision? How would he then know he found it?

    Um, that's actually an easy one-- he'd zap it with his heat ray vision and then if it stopped, he found it... if not, well-- Ooops!

  11. Re:Malice and stupidity. by bratwiz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why can't he be a bad guy AND be surrounded by morons-- you know, the old "bad guy surrounded by morons" routine...???

  12. Re:Please - It's San Francisco or simply "The City by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    No no. "The City" is quite clearly "The City of London". And no where near San Francisco. (I wonder if they use Cisco hardware though, which might make the San Fran - Cisco more apt)

    Huh? London is only about 142 miles SE from San Francisco and with a population of about 2000 people barely qualifies as a city, let alone "The City" moniker.

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  13. Re:Malice and stupidity. by erroneus · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean like the VP of the United States? That has been done before.

  14. Re:The story keeps changing. by IntlHarvester · · Score: 3, Funny

    City of SF Admins, if this proves to be your resolution, you owe me $150 for 1 hour of my time. Sorry, I do not bill in lower increments.

    I know nobody RTFAs, but the city is spending $1 million on consultants to rebuild the network, so sorry a guy like is just too cheap for this project.

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  15. Road trip by Oriumpor · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are now dozens of cars packed full of cheetos cheap laptops and foul smelling individuals travelling near, or perhaps at the speed limit, towards san francisco. They're full of people thinking the same thing, "Shit if they can't find a wired device, they sure as hell can't find a wireless one!"

  16. Onerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    All they have to do is look for the small black box with a lone, onerous blinking red LED.

    I find it difficult to understand how a blinking red LED would constitute a heavy burden.

    1. Re:Onerous by Helix666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      it's a very big LED.

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  17. if they dont find it, I'll be a hacker holy grail by Coraon · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can see it now, the mythical nethack terminus of San Fran, with it is the power to control the settings for the city...if you can find it.

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  18. Re:The story keeps changing. by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unless your name is "Superman", there's no real way to find exactly where wireless devices are, as far as I know.

    So does the blue and red spandex underwear come with the radio signal triangulation gear, or do you have to pay extra?

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  19. Q: How much should an airline pilot be paid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    A: When you have engine trouble at 35,000 feet, you start emptying your bank account

    Routine operations takes little skill. It is the ability to revolve a crises that distinguishes an excellent employee from a mediocre one.

  20. Re:Malice and stupidity. by Misch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why can't he be a bad guy AND be surrounded by morons-- you know, the old "bad guy surrounded by morons" routine...???

    Dark Helmet: Who is he?
    Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
    Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
    Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
    Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
    Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
    Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
    [Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
    Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
    Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!
    [Dark Helmet pulls his face shield down]
    Dark Helmet: Keep firing, assholes!

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  21. The admin thought of this ... by puddles · · Score: 3, Funny

    and changed the MAC address to C0:FF:EE:C0:FF:EE

    or

    FE:ED:C0:ED:BA:BE ...

    Just saying

  22. Reminds me of a high school prank by aclarke · · Score: 5, Funny

    I went to a boarding school in Kenya for high school. The system of bells ran across the campus of several hundred acres and many buildings in a closed loop, with all the bells in series. The system ran through the main office, with the Super Secure Bell System locked in a cabinet there so nobody could access it. Penalty for messing with the system of bells was said to be expulsion.

    The problem was, that all you had to do to get all the bells on campus to ring was to wire the loop back into the mains.

    We took a clock from the darkroom in the photo lab, and ran two wires through the face plate. We then ran another strip of wire along the minute hand, so whenever the minute hand swept by a certain point on the clock every hour, it would complete the circuit for about 30 seconds and ring every bell on campus.

    We then hid this contraption under a pile of wood in the attic of the wood shop. Right after convocation when I could no longer be expelled, I ran into the building and turned it on.

    Apparently the bells rang off and on mysteriously for most of the next month of holiday until they managed to follow the loop and find the device. Good times.

  23. Re:Mod Parent Up by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Their clients, for reasons best left undisclosed, could not upgrade...Start with being 60-1600 meters below the ocean surface...

    Good job, tightlips ;)

  24. Re:Siding with the network guy by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

    He may be incredibly bull-headed and lacking social self preservation techniques, but he may have been technically right.

    I'm guessing he has a four digit slashdot UID!

  25. /oblig bash.org quote by Shoone · · Score: 2, Funny

    hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

  26. Re:Please - It's San Francisco or simply "The City by Thansal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hissssss

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  27. Re:The story keeps changing. by oodaloop · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd mod you up, but you have to say 'swordfish' first.

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  28. Re:Mod Parent Up by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their clients, for reasons best left undisclosed, could not upgrade...Start with being 60-1600 meters below the ocean surface...

    Good job, tightlips ;)

    I knew Atlantis was somewhere.

  29. Re:MAC search by Migraineman · · Score: 3, Funny

    At my previous job (optical network equipment manufacturer, now defunct,) we ran a nifty TSR web server with a single fake news release webpage. Surprisingly, the TSR app would continue running even after logging out. We left it running on a lab computer for about a week before making the internal URL available. When we announced it, it took about 20 minutes before a team of IT guys barged through the lab doors. They chased wall plate tags, right up to the machine in question.
    ITguy1: This is it.
    ITguy2: It's not logged in.
    ITguy3: Double check the wall plate number.
    ITguy1: Yep, that's it. But nobody's logged in?
    ITguy2: Pull the cable. [*yank*]
    ITguy1: (on phone) That's it? Okay, good.
    ITguy3: That's it? Fuck it, take the whole machine.

    With that, they grabbed the whole machine and took off. Took them a day or two to figure out what was happening. The couldn't pin it on anyone, as there had been numerous log-ins on the lab machine. However, the gave us a knowing nod of the head and a shake of the finger. I do believe that they appreciated the prank, but couldn't officially say so.

  30. Re:Mod Parent Up by Psmylie · · Score: 4, Funny
    It's actually in our documentation to blame the guy on the way out. It works well.

    When I leave, though, I'm planning on EARNING the blame I'm sure to get :)

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  31. Re:MAC search by mattOzan · · Score: 1, Funny

    Um, do what any network admin does with a rouge device.

    Apply it to the cheeks and go out on the town?

  32. Re:Mod Parent Up by Dmala · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seriously, when I finally leave my current job I'm going to be very disappointed if my name isn't cursed out on a weekly basis for at least a year.

  33. Re:Anyone taking bets? by blair1q · · Score: 2, Funny

    $30 it's the boss's desktop machine.

  34. Marx Brothers of network admin: whats the passwd by pbhj · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cheeky: What's the password
    Dildo: Yeah, that's what I said, what's the password
    Bobo: Why are you asking me, I'm asking you ...
    Cheeky: You're asking who?
    Dildo: Hu doesn't know ...

    Hilarity ensues??

  35. Traceroute ? by billcopc · · Score: 3, Funny

    I must be missing some key information here, but if the thing has an IP address, they should be able to track it down to the nearest router/switch and follow the cabling, no ? It's not like the thing is sitting in some guy's closet.

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  36. Re:Mod Parent Up by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Old joke, many variants:

    The new _____ finds a note from his predecessor: "There are two envelopes in the upper drawer. When you are in trouble for the first time, open the first envelope. When you are in a big trouble for the second time, open the second envelope." In a couple of years he got into trouble, opened the first envelope he got from his predecessor and read: "Blame everything on me." He did so and got out of trouble. A couple years later he got into a big trouble again and opened the second envelope. It said: "Prepare two envelopes..."

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  37. What's in a name by clarkn0va · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because I'm a...dumbass and didn't think about it....

    Or could it be that you just didn't care, Lord Apathy?

    db

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