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Do Nerds Have Better Sperm?

mcgrew writes "The question of how we loveless nerds managed to not be bred out of the species genome may have been answered. According to New Scientist, we have better sperm. According to the article, men who scored high on a battery of intelligence tests boasted high counts of healthy sperm, while low scorers tended to have fewer and more sickly little guys. ... Though the connections between brains and sperm were 'not awesome, they're there and highly significant.' All things held equal, good sperm and good brains go together." Don't start gloating yet. Another recent study found that the gene that makes you good at Halo also makes you a premature ejaculator. A study of 200 Dutch men found that those with a premature ejaculation problem all had a version of a gene that controls the release of serotonin. These men seem to "have very quick reflexes. They may be excellent at playing tennis or computer games." Remember, if you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

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  1. Up next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The taste test!

    1. Re:Up next... by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

      Be sure and write back to let us know how it tasted.

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    2. Re:Up next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      little bit fishy to be honest....

    3. Re:Up next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Usually pretty good... but people aren't all the same in that regard though. Some psych meds can make it taste really bitter.

      Adding cranberry juice to the diet seems to increase fluid produced. Get the full strength juice with no corn syrup, then dilute it to taste with apple juice (check labels to make sure it isn't from China).
      Avocados seem to help make things more creamy. Get sunshine and exercise. Keep your weight fairly close to normal. Eat a varied diet. Some fats in moderation do help as there are precursor compounds involved. Get regular deep sleep at night (much hormone production goes on then).

      Try a little prostate massage during sex (even if alone).
      Males may actually absorb hormones from taking releases of other males near the prostate and get a boost in libido (sort of an afterglow effect) for days afterwards. That's not an available/attractive option for some obviously, but those into it tend to really enjoy it. Use due caution when picking partners for that sort of thing. Some bi males do better at home with a buddy on the side too. Between the stress relief and hormone boost, it can work wonders.

    4. Re:Up next... by NoName6272 · · Score: 2, Funny
      ... You are a wiki nerd are you not sir...

      ~
      NoName

    5. Re:Up next... by electrictroy · · Score: 1

      Funny.

      I've found the best way to "score" with a woman is to act like one. No, I don't mean cross-dressing. I mean being a good listener, with sympathetic emotions.

      Of course being able to walk-up and say, "Hey - how would you like to go get some dinner" also helps.

      So a balance between bravery and sensitivity.

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    6. Re:Up next... by NovaHorizon · · Score: 1
      where you live matters too. In smaller rural towns you WANT to act macho. There's a much higher percentage of athletic people in these towns due to high counts of farmers and nothing to do outside of home except

      A) walk around and talk

      B) play sports.

      You might think I'm joking, but I grew up in Shoshone Idaho.

      more than 80% of the people back in school played sports

      on an unusual turn, out of the women, all of the smart ones were on the sports teams.

      I'm still friends with one of the smart ones, and she still only dates Joe Sixpack from the basketball team.

      The geeks just weren't wanted in small places like that. Those that didn't want athletes wanted drugs.. or wanted both.

    7. Re:Up next... by bytesex · · Score: 1

      Wait, you're replying to a post which is referring to the taste of sperm, and you write "Hey - how would you like to go get some dinner" ? WTF ?

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    8. Re:Up next... by bonch · · Score: 1

      All this test really says is that healthy people will score higher on mental tests and have higher counts of sperm. Not really surprising.

  2. Useless by NuclearError · · Score: 5, Funny

    What good is this if nerds never get a chance to use sperm?

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    1. Re:Useless by zzsmirkzz · · Score: 1

      I guess that's why geeks outnumber nerds 2-to-1 and dorks 4-to-1. :)

    2. Re:Useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nerds use sperm all the time. It's where they use the sperm that is the problem. Although given they have more, healthier sperm, perhaps that explains how they manage to reproduce. Their sperm simply survive longer "in the wild" and when the next hapless female uses the bathroom...

    3. Re:Useless by MrMr · · Score: 1

      Probably the reason why it's of better quality (mediaeval folklore has it that monks were efficient breeders...).

    4. Re:Useless by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that a number of nerds don't *have* sperm because their ovaries don't produce any.

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    5. Re:Useless by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      Well that's the point. The few times nerds do score the chance of fertilization is much higher.

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    6. Re:Useless by lorenzino · · Score: 1

      Isn't that how Jesus was born ?

    7. Re:Useless by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      Mac fan boys can use it to get a matte finish on their new Macbook displays.

    8. Re:Useless by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      -raises hand-

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    9. Re:Useless by cizoozic · · Score: 1

      My father thinks he is God, but you don't see anyone writing books about him.

    10. Re:Useless by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      You, sir, are in dire need of one of my old slashdot journals A Nerd's Guide to Getting Laid.

  3. Get out by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

    Those are some funny statistics. Let's not forget that you might be smart, have a gene that gives quick response times (reflexes is popularly used incorrectly... that's only for stuff like how fast you blink when you are poked in the eye), and be good at a game much better than Halo. Let's go with Team Fortress 2, despite it not being the most "competitive" RTS around, it's still the most fun for 99% of players... human or not.

    1. Re:Get out by natedubbya · · Score: 1

      You must have really really good sperm.

    2. Re:Get out by DanTheStone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Team Fortress 2? An RTS? I'm guessing you mean FPS. Real-Time Strategy games don't tend to require lightening-fast "reflexes", at least for the skill levels of those 99% of players.

    3. Re:Get out by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Oh please, those losers use more exploits than they do strategy, and the "APM" (actions per minute) bullshit is pointless.

      StarCraft is strategically a simple game, especially when you factor in the unit caps.
      The interface is the main obstacle.

      I don't mind people in Korea playing the game and ignoring all other games (for an entire decade) that have done new things and improved the interface..
      I don't mind people in Korea getting attention for playing the game.

      I DO mind the fact that people in Korea have been bitching and moaning non stop since StarCraft II was announced.
      They don't like any of the changes, and they're holding back the game as a result.

      Blizzard is even hacking away at their new engine to make sure some of th eold exploits still work (such as mutalisk stacking).

    4. Re:Get out by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      Whoops, that's what i get for typing a post in a hurry.

    5. Re:Get out by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      Starcraft is a great game, but I tend to agree that the APM thing is really out of control. You lose a lot of freedom to choose what you want to do when you don't have time to do anything except by "reflex". So you often see those pro guys lose because something unexpected happened and they are unable to adapt... they just keep doing what they had done before. That gets boring.

      I'm hoping starcraft 2 finds that perfect match of needing quick hands AND a quick mind.

    6. Re:Get out by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm just playing the odds. Out of 100 million, there's gotta be a good one in there somewhere.

  4. It brings to mind... by tragedy+in+chaos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The movie "Idiocracy". Admittedly it's not exactly like the movie, however I can see this as going in a much similar fashion (It does explain the current state of things a bit).

    It's Natural Selection at it's finest.

    The women, while trying to subconsciously pick the best mate, inadvertently shoot themselves in the foot, as Mr. Cage Fighter is packing sickly soldiers, with a mission to degrade the gene pool.

    Meanwhile Mr. Physicist is in possession of a load that may one day help save humanity. But alas, it may never be used...

    Oh, Irony.

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    1. Re:It brings to mind... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      From a Natural Selection standpoint, I wonder if this means stupid humans were not common until we started farming. If smart guys with better reflexes tend to have healthier sperm and ejaculate sooner, you'd think that their brood would outpace the stupid brood (until the smart ones started farming, and using[paying] the stupid ones for farm labor).

      Fellow nerds, we need to get back to basics. Anyone know how to start a fire?

    2. Re:It brings to mind... by Anarke_Incarnate · · Score: 1

      I have to level my camping skill first

    3. Re:It brings to mind... by tenton · · Score: 1

      Anyone know how to start a fire?

      Move to Southern California and wait for the Santa Ana winds.

      (I smell smoke outside)

    4. Re:It brings to mind... by kahizonaki · · Score: 1

      I dunno, it seems to me that a lot of the time the 'people in charge' are not necessarily the smartest of the bunch :P
      If they were, oh what a different world it might be!
      No, it's the 'dummy farmers' who we usually find in power--especially after the first generation...orz
      any guesses as to why this is the case? :P

    5. Re:It brings to mind... by telbij · · Score: 1

      Even if the physicist "saves" humanity 99 times out of 100, the other 1% of the time he destroys us all. I think the cage fighter is the lower risk investment.

    6. Re:It brings to mind... by tragedy+in+chaos · · Score: 1

      Granted, but ones 'nerdiness' has little to do with how viable their social skills are. While yes, most introverts are nerds, not all nerds are introverts. In fact, I'd personally guess it to be the minority of them. No more so, than any other niche.

      Nerds have this extreme form of anti-social behavior projected on them, and in turn tend to adopt it unto themselves (the age old cycle of stereotyping). But yet in their seclusion they seek out others like themselves, rather it be online or at the local comic store. This in and of itself negates being anti-social. They are interacting socially, albeit with people of near-identical interests and believes.

      It's not that nerds are socially inept. We're socially lazy. We tend to not want to admit that there are in fact other things to talk about than the most recent D&D rule set, the global impact of the LHC, or the details of why linux is better than mac, is better than windows.

      It's not that you're a nerd that isn't getting you laid. It's you stereotyping yourself. Might I suggest listening to people, and perhaps not adopting the usual "holier than thou art" attitude that most nerds tend to do.
      There is no "skill set" needed. All that is needed is for you to actually care to try and interact with a person that does not care about your latest design for a nitrogen cooled laptop. Find other common ground. Who knows, you might just find yourself a girl/woman/whatever that does in fact the occasional bout of Mario. But you'll never know if you carry on with the attitude of "Oh, she could NEVER understand someone as brilliant as I". Give it a try, worse that can happen is she ends up uninterested, in which case you've lost no ground anyways.

      Nerds will take a risk by modifying a computer component worth hundreds of dollars to bleed out every possible clock-cycle possible, while running the risk of frying the component. And yet, they won't risk a conversation, in which in a worst case scenario they loss nothing.

      And for the record, if you have no interest in social intelligence, you would have no interest in social interaction, and therefore no (genuine)interest in getting laid. They go hand in hand.

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  5. grr by Kingrames · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay seriously I read that as SPAM.

    I'm all freaked out now. My freudian slips are working in reverse.

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    1. Re:grr by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Me too.

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    2. Re:grr by Kazlor · · Score: 1

      Holy crap, I thought I was the only one that read that. SO glad I'm not.

  6. And I thought ... by Devir · · Score: 1

    ...that it was a bad thing that I sucked at Halo.

    1. Re:And I thought ... by Killer+Orca · · Score: 1

      Yeah, try lording it over the 13-year-olds on XBL who kick your ass next time that they'll be pleasing the ladies too quick in the future

  7. Now I have something to brag about by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    .... I really suck at Halo!

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    1. Re:Now I have something to brag about by Windows_NT · · Score: 1

      I might suck at halo, but I can program, and there is one fact for sure:
      Im emailing this article to my girlfriend, and im getting laid tonight!

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  8. Worthless study, won't change a thing by Captain+Spam · · Score: 5, Funny

    All right, look, ladies. There's been studies showing that nerds are better lovers, care more about you, we're rich, and now we've got better sperm and will get you better kids, plus we're really interesting to boot. Now would somebody finally go out with me already, damnit?!?

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    1. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If females were better at choosing, the human race would not be in the sorry state it is in....

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    2. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by xstonedogx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey! A woman choose me you insensitive clod!

    3. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by pla · · Score: 1

      All right, look, ladies.

      <Chirp chirp>
      <Chirp chirp>
      <Chirp chirp>

      You don't really know your audience very well, do you?

    4. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by nameendingwith · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can't tell with your spelling and all...Are you trying to refute what gweihir said or agree with him?

    5. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Atrox666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nope the screwed up a**hole still gets the girl. These women cry on your shoulder and complain, about how bad they are treated but they'll still end up with the loser. It took me a while to figure this out. Women have their rules now I have the 3rd date rule, put out or get out. Chances are if she hasn't screwed you by then she's not that interested in you or she lacks any real sex drive. Either way I've got better things to do with my time. I think from an evolutionary stand point our species has traditionally rewarded and elevated the a**hole. This is why we are mostly a worthless species that is becoming more worthless by the day. Who's the richest most famous geek in the world? Gates the guy who invented basically nothing just ripped it all off. Who runs our countries, the best people we have to offer or a bunch of thieving parasites? Who runs our giant corporations the pillars of our community or money grubbing scum who maim and kill for the next quarter's numbers? None of this is new, our behaviors change our genetics just as our genetics change our behavior. Women are programmed to gold dig the best target. The women who historically didn't did not pass their genetics on to successful progeny. Trust me the women who get stuck on the screwed up men are just following their animal instincts honed over centuries. They should be avoided like the plague.

    6. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by norminator · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...plus we're really interesting to boot.

      And that's where you lose them. Mad CLI skills and a working knowledge of BSD doesn't count as interesting to most of the ladies out there.

    7. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Progman3K · · Score: 1

      It's easy to glum but let me remind you; the dinosaurs had 150 million years to rule the planet and are now extinct.
      Humans have been around for about 2 million and have already gone to the moon.
      Granted things could be better, but don't give up just because things are a little grim now.

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    8. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Translation+Error · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah! Who wouldn't want a prize catch like Hans Reiser?

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    9. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's trivial for nearly anyone to get sex, and not too much harder to get an at least quasi-functional relationship. Where most guys go wrong is in being timid. This is fixable the same way as fear of heights: do the thing you're afraid of, repeatedly, until it doesn't scare you anymore.

    10. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      You do realize that not all women are... how shall I put this subtly... white Americans?

    11. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Fyz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow dude, that's a pretty bleak outlook. Those who are chosen to reproduce from an evolutionary standpoint are those with the best ability to survive. And the reason why we geeks have brains that are like this is because being smart is an important fitness parameter.

      Also, blaming it on evolution is only half the answer and a pretty weak one IMHO. Natural selection didn't create skyscrapers and sonnets, societies did.

      Having value and being able to communicate that fact is what attract women. The assholes are good at communicating value. But those who are the happiest in their relationships are probably not the assholes. It's just the people who have become good at something and also good at communicating it.

      If you have had many failed relationships, and find yourself frustrated over the fact that they never seem to pan out, maybe it's time to look if you're doing it wrong from a strategic perspective.

    12. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by telbij · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First of all, stop feeling sorry for yourself. Girls do not prefer assholes, they just don't like sniveling self-loathing weaklings. Get some real self esteem and make something of yourself and the girls will come.

      Something else I should point out too. A lot of "nerds" like to think they're smarter than other people and constantly set up all kinds of straw man logic in their head to maintain this illusion. It may take intelligence to be a good nerd, but it doesn't take a nerd to be intelligent. Basing your self-worth on your intelligence is a good way to come off as an asshole yourself as you subconsciously attempt to demonstrate it to everyone. The truly smart know how to use it to their advantage and don't care if anyone knows it.

      As for world leadership, well, of course you are right there, but it can not be any different. Only the power hungry and greedy have the drive to get there, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    13. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by tragedy+in+chaos · · Score: 1

      Also, blaming it on evolution is only half the answer and a pretty weak one IMHO. Natural selection didn't create skyscrapers and sonnets, societies did.

      While I'd be inclined to agree, there's one major flaw in this. Yes society led to skyscrapers.

      But what fathered society? Those who were smart/clever enough to manipulate the masses so as that they could steer it in the direction which they desired. The ones that had the foresight and technical know how to put together a solid plan to take control were the ones who ultimately led to the creation of "society" as we know it today.

      Never the less though, on the flip side of things, through the above mentioned manipulation, the utilization of the more brutish types became more prominent. And they were bred (as a farmer would mules and oxen) to capitalize on a resource that, with enough half-truths and fancy tricks would carry out your every whim. As number grew, nature kicked in exemplary specimens surfaced, and redirected there brethren, garnering a revolution, and bringing about the next generations manipulations.

      Wash, rinse, repeats, and you have the history of the world. A cyclic pattern of brain>brawn>brain>brawn. Our problem today is that we're still stuck in the 'brawn' phase, and are without a 'brain' phase in quite some time. Best thing we could do is to utilize our current resources and try to get the wheel turning again.

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    14. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

      I don't feel sorry for myself at all but most women do prefer assholes. The reason all the women on Slashdot(both of them) haven't yelled me down is because they know out of all their past relationships the vast majority of the guys they were with were assholes. I even used to play the game but the women I got that way were good for sex and nothing else. Women who are past all that crap are the only women I care to associate with either socially or intimately. Women prefer screwed up assholes naturally and good guys prefer damsels in distress they can "rescue" so they gravitate to women who seek out distress. That one is a bottomless pit, if you ever find yourself "rescuing" a woman do yourself a favor and walk away.
      The girls are coming I've just learned to avoid the ones I don't want. Turning down sex is hard for guys but you'll be happier in the long run.

      The belief that intelligence is more important than any other ability is a vice of nerd-dom you hit the nail right on the head with that one.

    15. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      Maybe if we had better choices...?

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    16. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Women don't like assholes. They like strong confident men who don't whine about how badly the world treats them or how the world owes them something. That's what evolution gave them - strong Alpha males who fed them, kept them safe from Sabertooths and a myriad of other predators and kept some semblance of order among the other males through force. Some of whom who have this confidence turn it into arrogance and beget the asshole who thinks he's God's gift to women (Tucker Max).

      YMMV. HAND.

    17. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up... as a female, I agree almost 100% with what he's said. As a female who likes nerds, intelligence is the number one thing I am attracted to, but after the initial attraction, I'd be eventually bored and frustrated if he was passive and unmotivated.

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    18. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      (if he were* passive and unmotivated. Dammit, I hate when I change my sentence three or four times and forget to double-check my grammar.)

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    19. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Blkdeath · · Score: 1

      Maybe if we had better choices...?

      I've found that many women do have "better choices" available to them but in the end they pick the male stereotype they're most infatuated with.

      Case in point; woman meets man during an evening of hard partying then later complains he's drinking too much. Woman meets man who's heavily vested in testosterone-inducing events such as UFC fighting, weight lifting, etc. Has many tatoos. Eventually woman complains man is hitting her "but really loves her".

      I could go on and on, but usually the "better choice" winds up being the guy who listens patiently to her complaints and concerns but won't get anything more out of the relationship because he's too sensitive (a trait women claim to want, but it has to come in an overtly masculine package else it's rejected off-hand as a weakness creating lack of interest).

      This is why guys like this exist. They teach men how to get women; period. Resort to your more baser instincts and increase your quotient of "getting laid". The fact that it works speaks volumes to the very nature of the state of affairs with the female half of our species at this point in time.

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    20. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      True, I forgot you are speaking of most women, and not nerdy women.

      But at that point you have to decide if you want one of the average majority, or if it's worth finding one of the rare type of woman who would be more suited for you.

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    21. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      I think sometimes it's overlooked that maybe you're going about it all wrong. Maybe these average chicks need average dicks to date. If you're a more intelligent/sensitive/creative/etc, etc guy, you need a girl who can match that. You wouldn't be well-suited with whatever ditzy, shortsighted, base-instinct women you're referring to.

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    22. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Women don't like assholes. They like strong confident men who don't whine about how badly the world treats them or how the world owes them something

      Wrong.

      Women think they want strong confident men, but the problem is that assholes are very good at appearing strong and confident, so women pick them. There's a lot more assholes out there than there are strong, confident men who are not assholes. That kind of man is pretty rare, so a few girls get lucky, and the rest get stuck with assholes.

      The problem is that women aren't very good at telling the assholes from the non-assholes. Especially in today's society, they haven't been taught properly in their youth how to distinguish them.

    23. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Nope the screwed up a**hole still gets the girl. These women cry on your shoulder and complain, about how bad they are treated but they'll still end up with the loser.

      I'm banging three women right now who have these assholes as BFs. Two words: Revenge sex. When the dumbshit has treated her badly she's a pushover for a kind, gentle soul and will let you FUCK HER BRAINS OUT.

      And since you have better sperm, well, use a condom. I prefer the female condoms, it's like not using one at all.

    24. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      So they've just traded one asshole for another, really.

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    25. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      That wasn't nice.

      And they would argue with you about that. I really don't get much, but like Tom Petty sang, even the losers get lucky sometimes.

    26. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by telbij · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you've spent too much time at singles bars or what, but you're stacking up the generalizations. First I don't know what you mean by asshole, and I don't know what you mean by most women. The main reason I responded was because you sound very bitter and more than a little entitled. Not a good attitude for your mental health, and it certainly won't help your case with women, no matter how objectively justified that attitude may or may not be.

    27. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but as a female I consider a guy who takes advantage of a heartbroken girl and pretends to be a kind gentle soul just so he can "bang" her, along with three other girls, to be a heartless bastard. In the long run that just makes things even more painful for her.

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    28. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I don't see any advantage being taken. If anything I am the one being used, not her. Of course, I can assume that as a female if a woman told you she had sex with a guy who was fighting with his girlfriend that he was a cad, too. Is what's good for the goose as good for the gander, or do you hold women to a different standard?

      If a woman wants sex, how is she being "taken advantage of" if a guy has sex with her? AFAIK I have never seduced a woman, although I've tried hard and been rebuffed every time. It's either been mutual, or she seduced me. Also, unlike most guys (and women as well) I won't have sex with a married woman. If I'm in a bar and see a ring I won't even strike up a conversation. If a man wants to keep me from having sex with his woman, all he has to do is marry her. If she's not married I see no reason not to have sex with her, if that's what she wants.

    29. Re:Worthless study, won't change a thing by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      No response to that, huh? Look, lady, if you think I'm an asshole you should maybe take my old defunct sm62704 account off of your (very short) "friends" list. Actually you should anyway, there will be no more comments or journals from that account.

      I'm still waiting for you to explain how I'm "taking advantage". She wants revenge, if anyones being taken advantage of it's me.

      You have to understand that I'm a geezer, I was in my 20s in the '70s when there were no incurable STDs, and "wanna fuck?" from both men and women was a common a question as "wanna smoke a joint?"

      If a woman offers herself to me, it would be pretty damned low of me to disappoint her.

  9. Total BS! by Nef · · Score: 4, Informative

    While I usually refer to myself as a geek, rather than a nerd (geek = nerd + personality [IMHO]) this is one that hits home with me. I've been married 2 years now and been trying to conceive for 3+ with no luck. Testing has determined that I have an abnormally low count (healthy in all other respects) and no current cause has been identified.

    So no, being a geek/nerd DOESN'T mean you have better sperm, you INSENSITIVE CLOD!

    1. Re:Total BS! by 8282now · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's time to turn in your geek/nerd card....

      Should sperm count/ fertility be a part of the entrance exam for CS and other science degrees??

      ... just a thought....

       

      While I usually refer to myself as a geek, rather than a nerd (geek = nerd + personality [IMHO]) this is one that hits home with me. I've been married 2 years now and been trying to conceive for 3+ with no luck. Testing has determined that I have an abnormally low count (healthy in all other respects) and no current cause has been identified.

      So no, being a geek/nerd DOESN'T mean you have better sperm, you INSENSITIVE CLOD!

    2. Re:Total BS! by techess · · Score: 1

      My theory on the whole geek/nerd difference is that geeks shower.

      --
      Don't anthropomorphize computers. They *hate* that.
    3. Re:Total BS! by PachmanP · · Score: 1

      Well see there's your problem! I tended to think the General Grand Unifying Geek Nerd Dork Theory (GGUGNDT) equation simplifies to geek = nerd - smarts. In which case you need to try and be more nerdy to increase your "abilities".

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      You're thinking small. Why miniaturize the laser, when we could instead enlarge the sharks? -John Searle
    4. Re:Total BS! by lorenzino · · Score: 1

      ...and no current cause has been identified.

      Sure thing, how about you finished most of it during school age ?
      I didn't say with other people ..

    5. Re:Total BS! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I've been married 2 years now and been trying to conceive for 3+ with no luck.

      No offense is intended, but maybe you're not as smart as you think you are.

      Also, maybe it's her problem.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    6. Re:Total BS! by Monsuco · · Score: 1

      Consepshun, ur doin it rong.

    7. Re:Total BS! by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      I've been married 2 years now and been trying to conceive for 3+ with no luck.

      No offense is intended, but maybe you're not as smart as you think you are.

      Also, maybe it's her problem.

      LK

      Did... did you just assume that conception isn't possible before marriage?
      That's amazing.

      And you're saying it's potentially his wife's fault that his sperm count is low? Maybe she's been kicking him in the groin a bit too often?

    8. Re:Total BS! by Laurence0 · · Score: 1

      I read it as him implying that conception before marriage isn't /smart/, not isn't possible.

      That said, the comment about blaming the wife for his low sperm count suggests he's a dumbass either way.

    9. Re:Total BS! by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry to hear you're not seeing the results you're hoping for.

      That being said, you're one data point. Extrapolating from a single data point is a bad idea, and your single data point doesn't contradict the statement that being intelligent correlates positively with having good sperm. Also, the statement notably isn't that all nerds have good sperm.

    10. Re:Total BS! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      While I usually refer to myself as a geek, rather than a nerd (geek = nerd + personality [IMHO])

      Geeks eat live animals, making Ozzie Osbourne a geek. Nerds are fictional live animals in the Dr. Suess book If I Ran The Zoo.

      A dork is a nerd without the intelligence.

    11. Re:Total BS! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      No, the joke part was that maybe he's not really a nerd and thus doesn't have the extra motile sperm.

      The serious part was that maybe his wife is barren.

      Need me to explain any more of it for you?

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    12. Re:Total BS! by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      No, the joke part was that maybe he's not really a nerd and thus doesn't have the extra motile sperm.

      But you quoted the part where he discusses marriage status, not the bit where he says tests showed that he has an abnormally low count. I assumed you chose that line to show somehow that he wasn't smart, not at random.

      The serious part was that maybe his wife is barren.

      See above about abnormally low sperm count, again. They've done the standard testing already.

    13. Re:Total BS! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      But you quoted the part where he discusses marriage status, not the bit where he says tests showed that he has an abnormally low count. I assumed you chose that line to show somehow that he wasn't smart, not at random.

      No, I quoted the part where he said they've been trying for 3+ years, it's just coincidence that he also mentioned being married in the same sentence.

      See above about abnormally low sperm count, again. They've done the standard testing already.

      Which is only important if I'm giving him actual advice and not making a joke.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    14. Re:Total BS! by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      I don't know why I'm continuing to respond to this, but you must see the oddity of this exchange:

      The serious part was that maybe his wife is barren.

      See above about abnormally low sperm count, again. They've done the standard testing already.

      Which is only important if I'm giving him actual advice and not making a joke.

    15. Re:Total BS! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      A joke loses all of its punch when you have to explain it to someone.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  10. oh god! by Smoke2Joints · · Score: 1

    discussion on this topic could fill a small plastic jar.

  11. Definitions by bobdotorg · · Score: 4, Funny

    If by "better" you mean having a chance to enter a vagina, then... No.

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  12. of course! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Condensated and concentrated over years without a proper release, its insemination powers know no bounds!

  13. Of course they have better sperm by dave562 · · Score: 3, Informative

    They barely ever get to use it. They probably live longer too. The Taoists have a whole internal mind/body philosophy that involves holding onto the sperm and recycling the energy through the body to reach enlightenment.

    1. Re:Of course they have better sperm by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      Now we need a the study that correlates healthy sperm with masturbation rates.

      I'll bet the correlation is really masturbation rates, and geeks probably masturbate more than any other group.

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    2. Re:Of course they have better sperm by PachmanP · · Score: 1

      ...and geeks probably masturbate more than any other group.

      Except for lonely teenage girls(all of whom the documentarys seem to point out are over 18), right?

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      You're thinking small. Why miniaturize the laser, when we could instead enlarge the sharks? -John Searle
    3. Re:Of course they have better sperm by Jimmy+King · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that I need to find a Taoist chick and convince her that she needs to recycle my sperm's energy through her body.

    4. Re:Of course they have better sperm by dave562 · · Score: 1

      Yup, pretty much. Or a chick into tantric yoga. Double cultivation is what you're looking for.

    5. Re:Of course they have better sperm by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I was with a lady who was into hatha yoga. Holy shit but was she good in bed!

  14. Re:Whawhawhat? by silent_artichoke · · Score: 1

    I don't know. When did you first read that?

  15. Common Misconception by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember, if you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

    Actually, it means you aren't using enough lube.

    -Peter

  16. Evolution wins. by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

    Evolution to promote survivial of the "nerd race"....producing more sperm gives a higher chance of pregnancy from limited number of encounters. Jocks will take more encounters to impregnate a woman. Also, from the video's I've seen, premature ejaculation would seem to actually increase the chance of pregnancy.....when the woman reaches climax, the cervix dips into the pool of sperm that has been deposited (book link to keep it safe for work: http://books.google.com/books?id=GuFz4r64ETkC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=woman+orgasm+video+cervix&source=web&ots=icV2hCJ5fk&sig=Nml-3YZGpQ4PZwSDB_jqmZLbPXY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result#PPA74,M1 )....so, if you deposit prior to her orgasm, the chance of the sperm being taken up goes up.....as opposed to when she orgasms first. So really, it's all showing the evolutionary traits that has led to the survival of the nerd race.

    Layne

    1. Re:Evolution wins. by gujo-odori · · Score: 1

      You're just working with too small a sample size. In most places in the world, it is the most successful males who get to breed most often and do in fact produce the most children. Often with multiple wives, in some societies (in those societies, the less successful are also more likely to never reproduce at all).

      Now, if you restrict your argument to economically advanced countries, there may be something to it. Not only do they have lower birth rates in general, but there is a negative correlation between birthrate and educational level/income.

      I'm doing my part - I have three kids - the rest of you geeks need to get with the program :)

  17. Confucius say by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

    Confucius say "Geeks have better sperm, and hourly samples to prove it."

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  18. Tank is on "E" by Hellpop · · Score: 1

    Actually, the more you empty the tanks, the fresher the boys in the tanks are, so obviously this has always been true. Just most aren't emptying their tanks into any females...

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    "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything."
  19. Re:two times... by lorenzino · · Score: 1

    You Sir, never heard of protections.
    Lord Gold One

  20. better sperm? by skywiseguy · · Score: 1

    it doesn't matter, since new studies also show that carrying a cell phone in your pocket greatly reduces the fertility rate in men. so maybe nerds have higher quality sperm, but if they carry their cell phones anywhere near their boys it will reduce them back to average...

  21. Of course they are! by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Mine do tricks, code, solve NP problems . . . hell it's not like they have anything *else* to do . . .

    Pug

    --
    An Invisible Entity of Vast Power whose existence must be taken on faith alone: Liberal Media
  22. The problem is... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    That most of it ends up on the desk, a bit of cloth or tissue. So not only am I putting it where it should be but I may be wasting above average spunk.

    I guess I'll just have to ensure it ends up in a jar to go in a freezer just in case. I'll just have to remember never to make home-made popcicles again.

  23. You mom thought so... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1, Funny

    Your mom has sampled all varieties, and has upheld the result of this study - saying nerd sperm really is best in terms of flavor, texture, temperature, and its aesthetic qualities when sprayed on her face and chest.

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    Bow-ties are cool.
    1. Re:You mom thought so... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      You forgot to provide a link

      "Back of the line." ~ Oscar Wilde on your mom

      Your Mom, Born approx. 30 years before you were (15 for trailer trash), is a well known parent and parental figure, celebrated for her dedication to keeping you out of R-rated movies, calling just to "check up on you", and whoring herself on the streets like a Taiwanese prostitute. Despite a "lack of credibility" most likely caused by said sluttery, your mom is always there to do your laundry, include love as an ingredient in her recipe, or crush you with her massive gravitational pull.

  24. I'm a double hermaphrodite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Somewhat of a blend between masculine and feminine body build, yet that all is determined how I shave or grow my hair. I don't use any "make-up" and never had any bouts with the puberties that other one-gender people have fought with. My voice is neither masculine or feminine, which makes it easier to pronounce words without problem, etc.

    Now, in terms of gender physiology that is odd and explainable:
    I have a penis and under-developed testes, just off from a clitoris and vagina leading to a womb with fertile ovaries. This is a verry rare condition, where there are in-fact women born with two wombs, and men born with two or more testicles and pens. I am lucky however, because my testicles are inactive -- if they were, the chemical imbalance would have seriously hurt my young development. So to this day, I meditate and focus my mind, anticipating when if my testicles descend and become active in parallel with my ovaries and womb.

    The doctors said that I have stunted gondads/male-testes that will only be fertile if corrective surgery allowed them to descend out of my body cavity. They are currently lodged in the walls of my vagina.

    Don't laugh that I was born a woman first, because some people that have these extra organs may have had an incomplete twin attached to them. I was evaluated and found not to have overtaken a twin -- I'm a double hermaphrodite. I don't buy a Mac and Turtle-neck shirt, I don't watch Furry movies, and don't like your jests. I am lucky to be alive.

    1. Re:I'm a double hermaphrodite. by Noishe · · Score: 1

      That's really interesting. I didn't think that double hermaphorodites existed. I've even read multiple times in various science and medicine texts that they can't exist and still be fertile. You are indeed lucky.

  25. Re:No. by renegadesx · · Score: 1

    And Joseph said unto Mary "Now that I think about it, you have been hanging around the Nazarath Football Club alot latley."

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  26. I'm bound to have many offspring... by SeePage87 · · Score: 4, Funny

    seeing as how I'm very bright (super sperm) and I'm awesome at halo (they'll be spread everywhere very quickly). Unfortunately my halo skillz aren't going to help me support all my illegitimate children. My brain would, but it's too busy making me feel depressed about my premature ejaculation to do me much good right now.

  27. Do nerds have better sperm? by rugatero · · Score: 1

    After being gently broiled by a hot laptop for hour after hour, no, probably not.

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    This comment is for entertainment purposes only. Any similarity to real insight or information is purely coincidental.
  28. Keep in mind (from the author) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The link between sperm quality and intelligence is statistical, so lots of nerds will shoot blanks and many, many, many idiots will get one through the crease. But on average, intelligence and good sperm go together -- at least among 425 Vietnam vets tested in the 1980s. In my opinion, this effect made more of a difference in Paleolithic humans than in MIT or Caltech undergrads. Although most modern cultures are effectively polygynous (they have fewer fathers than mothers, on average), cultures advanced enough to have nerds or geeks are are probably the most monogamous (think Silicon Valley). So in between World of Warcraft marathons and Star Trek episodes, even the most hard-up geek get lucky. Whereas 20,000 years ago, being smart meant being sexy. (Being dumb meant being dead).

  29. Correlation != Causation by RichiH · · Score: 1

    Not only nerds are intelligent. It makes sense that intelligent people take better care of themselves, have better health, etc (as I said, I am _not_ limiting to nerds). Also, people who used to be intelligent but drank/smoked/shot their brains out will also be less healthy.

    Unhealthy people are unhealthy, which includes their sperm.

  30. Oh boy... by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

    ...I like nerds. But I don't want children. They get in the way of all the game-playing and interweb-surfing...

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  31. Evidence? by Yaddoshi · · Score: 1

    I'm nerdy enough to be running LINUX on my Nintendo DS Lite, if you need a level of nerd-ness indicator.

    My wife and I conceived the first time we had intercourse. Bear in mind we were using contraception (a condom) and she had been diagnosed with endometriosis and had been told by her doctor she would never be able to conceive without surgical intervention.

    I find this study highly convincing based on personal experience.

  32. Science to the rescue by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't start gloating yet. Another recent study found that the gene that makes you good at Halo also makes you a premature ejaculator.

    Well, premature ejaculation isn't counterevolutionary, but it does diminish the pleasure for nerd and nerdette.

    However, modern science has come up with drugs. Viagra isn't just to get it up for your aging wrinkled wife who has become too fat and ugly to fuck without chemical help. It also allows you control. You can make sex last pretty much as long as you want it to.

    Two of four women I've used viagra with had orgasms and fell in love with me. A third of the four hasn't afaik fallen in love but did say she had an orgasm (but of course she could be lying).

    The fourth was a hooker. Don't waste your viagra on a hooker!

  33. Re:Sounds like darwin... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Was right, Survival of the fittest. The Low IQers get low sperm, and we got more :D

    Shouldn't that be

    Was right, Survival of the fittest. The Low IQers get low sperm, and we got more 8=====D

    ;)

  34. Re:two times... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    How do you know you have two kids? Without DNA testing no non-virgin male ever knows if he's a father or not.

    At least you know you have a maximum of two. As far as I know I could have a hundred kids. Hell, I could be yo' daddy!

  35. Intelligent DNA by Amenacier · · Score: 1

    I found this joke when looking for genetics jokes for a departmental presentation - I never used it, but thought it was funny anyway. NEWS FLASH!!! Scientists have discovered intelligent DNA in some women. Unfortunately 95% of them spat it out! http://www.jokefile.co.uk/odds/dnajokes.html

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