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UK UFO Sightings Declassified, Still No Intergalactic Relations
schwit1 is just one of the massive flood of readers (and publications) writing to tell us about the recently declassified UK Ministry of Defense account of a supposed UFO sighting. Included are nineteen sightings between 1986 and 1992, with the most notable being a sighting in 1991 with a US Air Force pilot's first-hand account. Not that this lends an air of credibility to anything, just more papers with more words. "Almost 200 such files will be made available by the MoD over the next four years. [...] UFO expert and journalism lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University, Dr David Clarke, said the documents would shed new light on relatively little-known sightings. He said some conspiracy theorists would already have decided that the release of the papers was a 'whitewash.' He added: 'Because the subject is bedevilled by charlatans and lunatics, it is career suicide to have your name associated with UFOs, which is a real pity. The National Archives are doing a fantastic job here. Everyone brings their own interpretation. Now you can look at the actual primary material — the stuff coming into the MoD every day — and make your own mind up.'"
The U.S. government weren't trying to cover up aliens at places like Roswell, they were covering up their secret spy aircraft. Why do you think most of these "UFO cover-ups" involved strange craft spotted near isolated air force bases at the height of the Cold War? Project Blue Book wasn't about little green men, it was about making sure no one had gotten a good look at their latest prototype stealth planes and also checking to see if any hillbillies might have actually spotted any Soviet spy planes in the area.
No alien civilization is expending the mammoth amount of resources needed to traverse the vast distances of interstellar space just to stick a probe up your ass. Deal with it.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Do you really think the MoD (or the CIA, NSA, etc.) are going to provide us with the real deal? Of course it's a whitewa.....NO, NO NOT THE ANAL PROBE AGAIN!!!
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it is career suicide to have your name associated with UFOs
Not career suicide, just a hilariously pointless hobby like squirrel eating ... or Warcraft.
Something that's always bothered me about Alien sightings and 'abductions' is that the sightings really didn't kick off until 1897 which coincides closely with the release of the War of the Worlds. And, interestingly enough, alien abductions didn't really take off until the 1960s when movies about abductions had been in circulation since the 50s (as any devout MST3K fan knows).
Aside from a few odd reportings (and maybe a few religions) the above holds true.
We are human beings, we have awesome imaginations and a multitude of chemicals that effect them. I don't know what it's like to be coked out in an opium den or suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning but I think a lot of UFO stuff is pretty much a direct result of the human psyche, not extraterrestrials.
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"charlatans and lunatics" - what an exquisitely perfect choice of words ...
Nonsense. There are no aliens here, just good old natives of Earth. You really need to just sit down and relax for a few hours. On an unrelated note, where do you live and is anyone else there with you?
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
To counter your wildly irresponsible statements, I offer proof.
Foolish Earth meat-creature, there are no aliens here! Just thinking about this ridiculous idea makes my vocal tubes swell with mirth! Ho ho!
I'm so excited I just made water in my pantaloons!
Say it with me folks.... UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. Of course UFO's exist! If a flaming dead cat is dropped from an airplane at night, and no one can identify it, it's a UFO. Anything that cannot readily be identified, and that flies, is a UFO. Now, whether some of these UFOs are alien spacecraft is an entirely different matter. Of course, once a UFO is identified as an alien spacecraft, it would then cease to be a UFO at all.
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I'm from Earth, but I'm a cyborg. No, really, I am. You will be assimilated.
Anyway, back on topic. I just had New Scientest open, and they are running the same story:
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Oh please... "The Egyptian papyrus described a fleet of flying saucers darting through the sky?"
Seriously....
The Egyptians said NO SUCH THING, that is by way of being utter nonsense.
There have been lots of fascinating reports of strange events and objects in the sky in ancient time, most notably by the chinese. These are interesting because they reveal that early civilizations felt such things were worth recording, but most of the time information is scant, sufficient only to allow us to speculate as to causes, such as meteors or ball lightening.
They are not, in any way at all, indicating that there were people sitting around pondering alien spaceships in the ancient world. Ever...
A learning experience is one of those things that say, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' - D. Adams
Interestingly, the US has had, for several decades, a system which can detect UFOs - GEODSS, the Ground Based-Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance System. Each GEODSS site (there are three currently active, plus a mobile unit) has a pair of 40-inch telescopes. These were the first fully computerized telescopes, working since the 1980s. The telescopes scan the sky every night. They can detect moving bright objects as streaks, but there's more capability than that. They have a star atlas, and know what should be in each image, so anything that shouldn't be there is detected. If a known star is missing, that's interesting too; it may indicate a dark object. There are two telescopes, so for low-orbit objects, they can get parallax. Multiple sites can be coupled together to get parallax on more distant objects. They can even use one telescope with a laser to illuminate satellites while taking a picture with the other. This is how the USAF finds new satellites, near-earth asteroids, and nonmetallic space junk. The system was recnelty upgraded to use CCD imagers (it used to be tube camera based) and to use better alignment algorithms, so it's now both more sensitive and more accurate.
This is all tied to NORAD in Colorado Springs. GEODSS knows what an incoming ICBM trajectory looks like, and if it ever sees one, NORAD gets notified, without any action from the GEODSS site operators.
GEODSS is a real, live, functional UFO detection system that's been running for decades. If anything big enough to be interesting was anywhere near the planet for more than a few hours, it would be noticed. Even the target didn't reflect radar or light, it could be detected because it would occasionally occult a star.
... seem to be centred around Bonnybridge. Now, without wanting to sound like a UFO skeptic (I'm not) I do find myself wondering if "strange lights in the east" might have something to do with the flare stacks at the oil refinery in Grangemouth, the very bright strobes on a nearby pair of *immense* electricity pylons (couple of hundred metres tall) and a very tall power station chimney with strobes. Couple all that up with a bit of low cloud and you get some very odd effects. I used to drive through this area every day - at night in the winter you got some really odd glare off the clouds.
UFO..... Maybe a secret hypersonic craft, since the SR 71 is retired, and there in "no" current replacement ? A cover up for soviet hypersonics ? Can't admit they have one and we don't. Consider that it is a great big deal to get here. I agree with the poster that your "abducted" people story is not rational. Kidnap a few humans if you need them, breed, and sequence the DNA, or just clone your own if you need to at this level of supposed technology. No one is coming here to bugger Bubba. Of course, if anyone had alien tech, it would be a huge leg up, aka the Terminator or Star Trek's Timeship stories. The fact that no one has just come out with a clean endless power source or radical new weapon is proof that no one has any significant alien artifacts.. -or at least ones we can figure out.
Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!
...good for, when you've got genuine castles with even more genuine ghosts, and then again Nessie if Scottish summer gets all too boring?
If anything, Her Majesty's extraterrestrials, keen to avoid any interference with the Royal Air Force (or, heaven forfend, the Home Secretary's wrath), stay orderly well grounded, and are kept busy making corn circles to lure Japanese tourists or those from insubordinate colonies to the fields of Devon!
There are literally tens-of-millions (if not hundreds of millions) more cameras in the hands of the residents of the planet earth than there were even 15 years ago. Cameras in phones, cameras in purses, cameras in trunks of cars, cameras in PDAs, the list goes on. Most of the cameras also shoot video.
As a consequence we have many more pictures of police misconduct and celebrity's privates than we ever have in the past, but we have no noticeable increases in the numbers of good UFO pictures (or good sasquatch pics for that matter).
If the number of UFOs are constant, and there are many more cameras, why aren't we seeing many more pictures flooding the intertubes?
There's obviously a lot of skepticism on this site.. however a few years ago I was having a bbq and, before you ask no one had started drinking or smoking anything, but a couple of us saw these silver globes traveling EXTREMELY fast around the clear sky, they (and there was about 8 of them) sped over the horizon and then shot upwards twirling around each other. DEFINITELY not a bird, plane.. photos are: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2959668832_e5abe840d1_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/2959668228_778ac7d3d9_o.jpg After seeing these, I'm convinced we're not alone..
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The ADC would practice night intercepts on airliners. Those two aircraft where some of the first to have afterburners. The pilots would often light the burner and pull up. Then shut down the burner.
Strange light making unusual maneuvers then is gone...
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That first link is indeed a bit dodgy, but if you look a bit around you find more articles on the web with references in them that show older sightings than from the 19th century.
I don't doubt there are. However, its not early sightings of strange things in the sky I take issue with. Rather its the insertion of spurious conclusions without proof, and worse, the hailing of these rather childish idea's as confirmed and reliable sightings.
I do in fact believe wholeheartedly in the existence of extraterrestrial life. However I do so as a scientist. Therefore I recognize my belief in this regard is totally without proof, and I freely admit this. It is more a hope then a belief in this respect, and one I expect only my descendants will answer.
I don't however believe in alien visitation on Earth, in fact I disregard such claims completely. Those who do believe such things lack even the most basic grasp of the inconceivable distances involved and the velocities that would be required for such a journey.
A learning experience is one of those things that say, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' - D. Adams
I once saw something exactly like you describe and your pictures show. I got my telescope and saw an aluminum foil balloon. It was much smaller and nearer than it seemed before I recognized it. It's really funny, how something that seemed like a huge metallic spacecraft flying extremely fast miles away was suddenly diminished to a small child's toy floating at a hundred yards distance.
They are not, in any way at all, indicating that there were people sitting around pondering alien spaceships in the ancient world. Ever...
It would be hard to expect an ancient people to say, "we saw an aerodynamic craft of strange configuration approach at mach 12, capable of extreme delta-V acceleration, flying in formation with a mothership and several smaller ships, each with thrust powered by some sort of engine producing multi-spectral visible radiation," but we might hear things like:
Ezekiel:
2 Kings 2:
Isaiah 66:
Jeremiah 4:
Zechariah 6:
One might consider something like this a modern re-imagining of Ezekiel's wheels.
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If the number of UFOs are constant, and there are many more cameras, why aren't we seeing many more pictures flooding the intertubes?
You must look in order to see. --This is always the case when it comes to subjects which do not bear the stamp of, "Official Truth".
There are actually quite a lot of phone camera UFO pictures. Videos, too. --Many tend to be poorly shot and of low resolution, but that's to be expected given that the objects are photographed with crappy cameras at great distances by untrained people. I expect as resolutions on phone cameras get more powerful, we'll also get better images.
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Sorry, having an Air Force captain (pilot) describe seeing this *does* lend an air of credibility. The Air Force doesn't let Jim from the trailer park fly their planes.
Do you have ESP?
Rectal thermometers are standard in hospitals and rectal probes would be safer for the patient and the alien scientist than oral ones.
Second if youre doing scientific experiments on a primitive population your not going to raid the population center youll grab somone on an outlying settlement. Plus you would figure the rednecks would have interesting diseases to study.
I agree to the assumption that we can't possibly be the only sentient species in the universe and given there were a few million years to evolve why shouldn't have something come up with better ways of generating energy? Not every species is as retarded as ours...
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On earth the highest order creatures use rectal "probing" more than the lower creatures. It only stands to reason that more advanced creatures would have an even greater interest on rectal probing than us humans.
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It is also worth reading "DMT - The Spirit Molecule" by Dr. Rick Strassman.
Dimethyltryptamine is the most powerful hallucinogenic known to man, and the book concerns the study of the effects DMT has on the human mind. During the experiements he discovers that the "alien abduction experience" can be recreated "at will" by administering relatively high doses of DMT.
DMT occurs naturally in the human brain and is regulated by the pineal gland - we are all taking a dose of the schedule one drug right now.
From this we can determine that perhaps the "alien abduction experience" is built in to us at some level, and that those who experience it have somehow triggered a flood of DMT.
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