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Researchers Developing Cancer-Fighting Beer

CWmike writes "Ever picked up a cold, frosty beer on a hot summer's day and thought that it simply couldn't get any better? Well, think again. A team of researchers at Rice University in Houston is working on helping Joe Six Pack fight aging and cancer with every swill of beer." Thank you science! Now we just need cigarettes that cure baldness.

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  1. Baldness by TheSpoom · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think if Star Trek has taught us anything, it's that baldness is one thing that will never be cured.

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    1. Re:Baldness by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      In Star Trek Appearance doesn't matter. Only disobeying rules at key moments matters.

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    2. Re:Baldness by hkmarks · · Score: 3, Interesting
    3. Re:Baldness by grahamd0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Curing baldness would probably be one of the evils that was abandoned after the Eugenics Wars. I'll note that Khan had a full head of hair. It's a slippery slope from Rogaine to genocide.

    4. Re:Baldness by syousef · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Star Trek Appearance doesn't matter. Only disobeying rules at key moments matters.

      In that case, here's your new red shirt. We were going to give you the blue shirt, but that wouldn't tell the audience that you're about to die. The way team will be beaming down to the dangerous planet immediately.

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    5. Re:Baldness by schon · · Score: 2, Informative

      We were going to give you the blue shirt, but that wouldn't tell the audience that you're about to die.

      To boldly go, don't you see?
      It's just a ploy, it's a fucking conspiracy!

      The final frontier is just a lie
      that kills thousands every year!

      You and me, don't you see?
      Brain washed at the fucking Academy.

      This red shirt, I'll say it loud -
      It ain't nothing but a fucking death shroud!

      The red shirts are dying
      The red shirts are dying

      The red shirts are dying
      I ain't lying
      What they're selling you're buying
      While the Captain's satisfying his itch in a ditch
      with some green-skinned bitch
      And the Federation grows increasingly rich!

      From Warp 11

    6. Re:Baldness by D'Sphitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's also strange how volatile the display consoles on the bridge are, they seem to explode in a shower of sparks at the slightest provocation, killing the attendant (who, by sheer luck, is never one of the regular crew).

    7. Re:Baldness by lysergic.acid · · Score: 5, Funny

      that's a common misconception. they're actually killed by sudden intense bursts of high-energy gamma rays, which are invisible to the naked eye. the sparks are secondary effects added artificially by the ship's computer system to make the crewmen's deaths look more festive.

      this feature was deemed necessary to save doomed crew members from the shame of dying unceremoniously by innocuous-looking console malfunctions. in fact, before the pyrotechnic sparks and digital sound effects were added, many console operators' deaths would go unnoticed for hours, and sometimes even days. often Starfleet captains would unknowingly complete entire missions with a bridge full of dead crewmen sitting at their consoles--this is also why officers are now required to stand at the tactical station.

  2. Guinness already does it... by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Informative

    Guinness is full of yummy flavonoids which zap oxidants and help protect against cancer.

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    1. Re:Guinness already does it... by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, the science is still out on 'Zapping' oxidants.

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    2. Re:Guinness already does it... by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What is this thing with Guinness? The only difference between Guinness and yellow American beer is the color. If you want a good stout there are plenty to choose from. Instead people seem to treat Guinness as some kind of stand-out because it's the only dark-colored beer available in many places. That doesn't make it unique or even particularly good.

    3. Re:Guinness already does it... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You'll need their yeast strain is what. This won't be so hard to procure.

    4. Re:Guinness already does it... by rrhal · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can buy their Yeat strain from any well stocked Home brew supply - one of the promenent Yeast labs has it.

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    5. Re:Guinness already does it... by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because wine doesn't go with sports nearly as well as beer.

      Seriously though, in the mentioned in the article that you need somewhere around half a bottle of wine to get the health effects of the resveratrol. If a bottle is about 6 * 4oz glasses of wine, that means 3 glasses per day, and other researchers have found that more than 2 drinks of alcohol per day can have adverse health effects. So, my guess is they are looking for a way to give you 2 * 12oz beers with all the benefits of 3 * 4oz wine.

      BTW, I've noticed that Euro beers (don't ask me which; I wasn't paying close attention) tend to come in bottles that are 11 or 11.5 ounces now. WTF? Is this some evil side effect of going metric? Quit ripping us off, dammit!

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    6. Re:Guinness already does it... by NoisySplatter · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's because nobody wanted to drink the last little bit left in the bottle so they removed it preemptively.

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  3. Rice? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Beer from Rice University? I hope it doesn't taste like Budweiser.

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    1. Re:Rice? by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Interesting

      OK, Bud isn't the best tasting beer, but it's always decent. I've had too many skunked bottles of "premium" beers to continue being snobbish about it.

      FWIW, my favorite beer of all time is Pete's Wicked Ale. I'll put Guinness, Grolsch and a few others close behind.

    2. Re:Rice? by Cyberia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good news: Cancer deaths down. Other news: Liver disease is up, researchers are looking for cause & cure.

    3. Re:Rice? by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Funny

      Beer from Rice University? I hope it doesn't taste like Budweiser.

      It it's from Rice, that makes it Sake.

      (duh!)

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    4. Re:Rice? by himurabattousai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Damn, you beat me to it. Your joke is somewhat accurate, though, as sake is brewed in a manner very similar to (good) beer.

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    5. Re:Rice? by UncleFluffy · · Score: 4, Informative

      The brewer posted the recipe online some time ago (Free as in Beer Speech) so you can always make your own:

      All Grain Recipe - Pliny the Elder ::: 1.074/1.012 (6 Gal)

      Grain Bill

      • 12 lbs. - 2 Row Pale Malt (American)
      • 1 lb. - Corn Sugar
      • 1/3 lb. - Crystal Malt (45L)
      • 1 lb. - CaraPils Malt

      Hop Schedule

      • 1.5 oz - Chinook (First Wort or Mash Hop)
      • 2.75 oz - Warrior (90 Min.)
      • .5 oz - Chinook (90 Min.)
      • 1 oz - Simcoe (45 Min.)
      • 1 oz - Columbus (30 Min.)
      • 2.25 oz - Centennial (Flameout)
      • 1 oz - Simcoe (Flameout)
      • 3.25 oz - Columbus (Dry Hop)
      • 1.75 oz - Centennial (Dry Hop)
      • 1.75 oz - Simcoe (Dry Hop)

      Yeast

      • White Labs California Ale Yeast (WLP001) - 1800 ml starter

      Mash/Sparge/Boil

      • Mash at 150 to 152 for 60 min.
      • Sparge as usual
      • Boil for 90 minutes (remember to compensate your water if you normally do 60 min boils)
      • Cool and ferment at 66 to 68
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    6. Re:Rice? by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Guinness is a meal, not a beverage.

  4. Spinal detachment by isBandGeek() · · Score: 5, Funny
    TFA:

    And they added that giving high doses to invertebrates extends their life spans

    So if we remove our spines and drink a lot of this miracle beer, we can increase our lifespans? Tell me where to get this beer!

    1. Re:Spinal detachment by w0mprat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, you can skip a step there: Some of us have no feature of anatomy resembling a spine!

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    2. Re:Spinal detachment by pluther · · Score: 3, Funny

      So it only works on Democrats?

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    3. Re:Spinal detachment by Digital+End · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unfortunatly yes. Republicans, being a form of cancer themselves, should probably avoid this one.

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  5. Alcohol, the cause of and solution to. . . by Apple+Acolyte · · Score: 5, Funny

    To alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems. -Homer Simpson

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  6. Baldness is not a disease! by ODBOL · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Now we just need cigarettes that cure baldness.

    Now, cut it out! God made a few good heads. He had to cover the rest with hair.

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    1. Re:Baldness is not a disease! by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now, cut it out! God made a few good heads. He had to cover the rest with hair.

      One I've always liked is:
      "We were all born with the same amount of testosterone. If you want to waste yours growing hair, that's your business."

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  7. I liked it, but... by Andr+T. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In general, the addition of the resveratrol shouldn't affect the taste of the beer, since the chemical is odorless and tasteless, he said.

    So, why not adding it to... water? Because that way you wouldn't get in the newspaper, not even a /. mention?

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    1. Re:I liked it, but... by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because they're using yeast to produce resveratrol, beer seems a logical choice of beverage. Besides, I think they're targeting that vast group of Americans who think it's unpatriotic to drink water.

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    2. Re:I liked it, but... by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Funny

      SHHHHHH!

      that completely invalidates our excuse then:

      "Honey, Would you put that beer down and go mow the lawn?!"
      "Can't sweetie, it's time for my treatment!"

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    3. Re:I liked it, but... by philspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      In general, the addition of the resveratrol shouldn't affect the taste of the beer, since the chemical is odorless and tasteless, he said.

      So, why not adding it to... water? Because that way you wouldn't get in the newspaper, not even a /. mention?

      Dude, shut up! Seriously... Next you'll be on about how you can get the benefits of the glass of wine a day in a capsule without having to drink a glass of wine, or about how the health benefits from sex are the same for masturbation. You callous bastard, what are you trying to do, drive up the suicide rate?

    4. Re:I liked it, but... by Molochi · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's why god put cupholders on riding lawnmowers.

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  8. Chemotherapy by dark+grep · · Score: 2, Funny

    So the 'liquid lunch' now becomes chemotherapy. Huzzah!

  9. Wine by Haoie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's already been shown that certain wines, in moderation, can help prevent certain cancers.

    As usual, moderation in everything.

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    1. Re:Wine by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, but who will metamod your moderations in drinking? I'm moderately worried about this.

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    2. Re:Wine by shawb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This does have to be applied recursively. Moderation in all things... especially moderation.

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  10. Did anyone else... by resignator · · Score: 5, Funny

    read this as' "Cancer-Fighting Bear"? I was seriously concerned there for a moment.

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  11. Drink to fight cancer! ? by w0mprat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I get this is a good way to sneak beneficial nutrients into the diets of people who may otherwise have no interest nor motivation in seeking them, I have one problem with it: Considering alcohol consumption is a risk factor for many types of cancer (and being loaded with empty calories contributing to other health problems), this better be a no/low-alcohol beer or there may be no net benefit to consuming this versus not drinking any beer at all. Ok sure, one standard drink per day has not been shown to be a problem. This is not the behaviour of your typical beer affictionado. There may be a trend to drink more, just because it's perceived to be healthy.

    I do think reservatol has huge potential though, I'm sure Ray Kurzweil is already taking it along with his 250 pills a day. I also agree with finding feasible ways to improve the nutrition of existing food products rather than changing the habits of millions of consumers (which requires delivering boot to ass of corporates over their marketing amongst other things).

    Yet, why not investigate economic ways to put it in milk or processed grains? Hell why not bundle it along with xylitol and omega 3 in things we eat commonly? We could all but wipe out everything from tooth decay to heart disease, to dementia in one go.

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    1. Re:Drink to fight cancer! ? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "While I get this is a good way to sneak beneficial nutrients into the diets of people who may otherwise have no interest nor motivation in seeking them,"

      Except a bunch of ignorant fear mongers will scream about it killing us, even though there is years of data spreading over millions of drinkers.

      see Fluoridated water.

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    2. Re:Drink to fight cancer! ? by Chrisje · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's not likely.

      Assume Joe "The Plumber" drinks 2 beers every night when he comes home. Assume this is not lo-alcohol beer but regular plain old lager. If Joe Plumber is an American, it's a weaker, more tasteless beer regardless. But let's put Joe Plumber in the UK, Ireland or call 'm "Jan Loodgieter" (NL), "Calle Rörmokaren" (SE/NO) or "Hans Installateur" (GER) or "Tomàs Zednik" (Czech R). Let's assume he drinks beers in the same way his dad and granddad before him. Good, strong beers, fine, tasty beers in pints, boots, strange Belgian glasses and whatnot. Let's assume all of these people drink these beers anyway, with or without the chemical in it.

      Simply putting this chemical into the beer will not likely change the habits of all of these Joes. In France and the rest of the world, wine consumption didn't exactly triple when an article about the French paradox was published either. Partially because Joe might not read the newspaper because he's too busy in the pub. So having said that, how could this have an adverse affect?

  12. It's only resveratrol by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can get drinks containing resveratrol from many places, such as Costco.

  13. But resveratrol-producing yeast? by unassimilatible · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As a homebrewer, I'd pay for that. Add in the glowing yeast, and I'd (and a lot of homebrewers) would be pretty happy.

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  14. The problem is, most guys who drink Guinness by unassimilatible · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have 20-inch necks, and a proportional waistline, which creates its own health problems.

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  15. So true by unassimilatible · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Homebrewers laugh at Guinness, as like with most commercial beers, it tastes like water after you taste a well-bodied homebrew.

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    1. Re:So true by diskofish · · Score: 2, Informative

      Guinness is more than that. It's the beer that all other Irish stouts are compared against. Sure there are always better examples of the style out there, but there are also a lot that are worse. As for the home brew thing, I've had a lot of really terrible home brew.

    2. Re:So true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      yeah, some people think brewing their own beer automatically raises them to supreme beer snob status.

      me: uh, is this beer really supposed to be stringy?
      homebrewer: you just don't know good beer.
      me: i hope it's the good kind of bacteria

    3. Re:So true by Detritus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It happens all the time with beer and soft drinks. I used to know a pub owner in Hawaii that imported beer from Australia. It definitely tasted different from the export version of the brand that was sold on the mainland. Coke adjusts their recipe to suit local tastes and commodity prices.

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    4. Re:So true by PinkyDead · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shit! How could I have been so wrong all my life! Thanks for opening my eyes. Nary a drop of that evil black stuff will pass my lips ever again, it's homebrew from here on in.

      One question, though, how long does it actually take before I'm a fully fledged member of the "Association Of Home Brewers and Other Tedious Arseholes That Sit At Home On Their Own Smugly Pontificating About How They Know Everything Society"?

      Get over yourself.

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  16. Sounds like......... by Anachragnome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cindy Lou Hensley McCain is branching out her empire into the realm of pharamaceuticals.

  17. Re:Just great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    and typing lessons? :P

  18. pish posh by retchdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "French paradox" isn't one. The French are healthier because 1) they exercise; and 2) they only eat their famous meals on occasion. Generally, they eat "peasant food"; potatoes, bread, stews, &c. But of course that would be too difficult; no, it must be the wine. Drink, drink, drink! It's good for you!

    Here's a hint: the French drink wine because they enjoy it. When I drink beer, it's because I enjoy it. I probably won't enjoy this genetically-engineered "good for you" beer as much, so the whole idea is a non-starter. I could always just eat a pomegranate, and then drink a good beer. And for those who don't like pomegranates, we can just synthesize this "resveratol" and put it in multivitamins right?

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    1. Re:pish posh by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also they have the best healthcare system in the world http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

      and it's social medicine... just saying...

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  19. Clinical Trials by AikonMGB · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where do we apply for clinical trials?!

    Aikon-

  20. The future by CmdrPorno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I for one welcome this new synthesis between vice and medicine. What about strippers who can cure STDs and gambling to cure dyslexia?

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  21. Making love in a canoe by quenda · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why is American beer like making love in a canoe?

    .

    .

    They're both fucking close to water.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY

    1. Re:Making love in a canoe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Any drink that becomes more palatable the colder it gets is not worth drinking in the first place. What next -- Bud Numb, with anaesthetics to dull your tastebuds while you desperately try to prove your manliness by downing the foul stuff without vomiting?

    2. Re:Making love in a canoe by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here's your lukewarm glass of water. If you want something else, we also have lukewarm milk.

    3. Re:Making love in a canoe by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Any drink that becomes more palatable the colder it gets is not worth drinking in the first place.

      What about a martini?

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    4. Re:Making love in a canoe by Windows_NT · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey,
      Budweiser is a good beer. and let me remind you its not a dark beer. Yes there is a lot of water in it. But it does have a good taste. And also, you should try the new Budweiser American Lager, Its pretty good i think.
      thats just my two sense. Im just sick of people talking shit about budweiser when all they drink is Bush light!

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  22. What about AIDS-fighting condoms?... by hotfireball · · Score: 2, Funny

    OK, what about AIDS-fighting condoms?...

  23. Don't diss the bears! by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do not underestimate the potential of nanobears with regards to their ability to fight diseases like cancer. I for one welcome our microscopic ursine overlords.

    1. Re:Don't diss the bears! by laughing_badger · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do not underestimate the potential of nanobears with regards to their ability to fight diseases like cancer. I for one welcome our microscopic ursine overlords.

      intralords

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  24. Re:Bread? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why put it in bread when you can put it in beer?

  25. Let's make a penny go to more research by Provocateur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...from the sale of each beer. Doesn't necessarily have to go towards cancer research; it could defray the cost of printing the new labels. We'd still buy 'em, drink 'em...in the name of research, get it?

    "Helping to find the cure, honey."

    It's for the rest of us armchair jocks that can't run for a cause, unless it involved dashing to the fridge for the next one.

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  26. Slashdot Community Effort by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm fighting cancer and growing hair right now!

  27. New Support Group by karlwilson · · Score: 2, Funny

    For those who just can't brink themselves to drink. Teetotalers Anonymous.

  28. Beer... by onemorechip · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...is there nothing it can't do?

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  29. Guess what the #2 best-selling beer is in Ireland by unassimilatible · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Budweiser

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  30. Resveratrol is not produced during fermentation by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The resveratrol in wine does not come from the yeast used to ferment it, it is a present in the fruit from which the wine is produced. While I have had far too much beer this evening to produce any links to back up this claim I will stake my reputation as an engineer, brewer and vintner that the stress undergone during the maturation of red wine grapes leads to the production of resveratrol. While tweaking yeast strains to reduce their impact on the resveratrol present in beer wort is an interesting idea, I would hazard that producing barley malt which contains a higher level of resveratrol would be much more likely to produce the desired result.

  31. Re:Guess what the #2 best-selling beer is in Irela by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Informative

    Budweiser

    Yeah, Budweiser from Budweis (sometimes called Budvar), not watered horse piss from Anheuser-Busch.

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  32. Re:Think about the consequences this election year by I+cant+believe+its+n · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, if you really think about it, maybe we don't want Joe Six Pack to be cured of cancer. Thinning out the herd can be good.

    Is it ok if we start with the people you love?

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  33. From someone who has actually lived there by MosesJones · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) Betting you've never lived in France
    2) 13% of MacDonalds' revenue comes from France, its the biggest market outside of the US
    3) The french traditional foods are high fat (lots of cream) not potatoes and stews, that is Germany and its ilk
    4) They drink wine like people in the US drink Coke, its just what you do and its perfectly normal
    5) They smoke

    Seriously if you are going to have a go at the French Paradox then get some sort of perspective on what they eat. Its loads of "McDo" and then rich meals with Duck, cream and the like. "Stew" and potatoes I've hardly ever had. Beans in a rich tomato sauce with meat, yup had that, but its hard to call it "stew". The French don't exercise much, although they do walk around more and do things more on the weekend than is "normal" in the US, this doesn't make them exercise freaks though.

    The French Paradox of smoke, eat rich food and drink wine might not be down to the wine, but its certainly not down to them eating a German/Hungarian mix of potato and stew.

    The real French paradox is how come the women all dress like the most stylish people on the planet and yet the blokes all wear jumpers that look like an aunt knitted them for Christmas.

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  34. I apologize in advance... by BForrester · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hence motto, "to baldly go where no one has gone before."

  35. Making love in a canoe: an obsolete joke by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's a great example of an obsolete joke. It was funny in the 1970s, because it was true. Nowdays it makes you go "huh?" instead of laugh, because it doesn't make any sense. When you sip on some of those west coast IPAs or barleywines, you sometimes wonder if there's any water in it at all. "Geez, did they just put some malt and hops into a hydraulic press?"

    Some say it was because of Carter repealing the homebrew prohibition in 1978, but I think America went from one of the worst countries for beer to one of the best, because of that joke. It was just too damn embarrassing and our national prestige was at stake. It's like the Monty Python guys accused us all of having small penises or something, but instead of going out and buying a big truck or fast sportscar, we bought a bigger penis.

    But anyway, anyone who doesn't realize how hopelessly obsolete the joke is, needs to try some American beer again. It's been 30 years: go ahead and have a second sip.

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    1. Re:Making love in a canoe: an obsolete joke by Creepy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Um, if you have a sip of Budweiser, it's the same nasty half-rice, half-wheat beer-like substance that it was in 1978. The majority of Americans still drink that swill and like it.

      On the other hand, there's decent US brewers like Fat Tire, Rogue and Goose Island, and great brews from other brewers like Surly Darkness (I'm not a big bitter fan, so I'll pass on most of their other beers, but that one is good - and VERY expensive - cost me $20 to buy one off a friend, and I think they sold for something like 6/$100), and Stone (Imperial Russian Stout is yummy - got that one at a beer festival and never saw it again).

      I still have yet to find a decent 'black' from the US. Some like Sprecher are ok, but don't come close to a German black (e.g. Kostritzer). I also haven't found a decent US 'sweet' wheat (hard to describe - sorta like drinking King's Hawaiian Bread, but lighter and less heavy than you would think) like some German and Belgian brews - the US tends to make wheat beers as bitter as possible. I'm not a fan of Pils or IPA, mainly because I'm highly sensitive to bitter, so I can't comment on those.

  36. Re:Bread? by Guido+von+Guido · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even if heat didn't break it down, yeast in bread does not have a lot of time to produce reservatrol. There's also not a lot of free sugar in bread for the yeast to eat. So you're probably not going to get much reservatrol out of bread even before it breaks down from the heat.

  37. Re:Guess what the #2 best-selling beer is in Irela by treeves · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's enjoyable to you is not enjoyable to everyone. Some people actually don't like heavy beer.
      If it has to be like syrup for you to consider it as having any taste, maybe the problem is your tastebuds.

    --
    ...the future crusty old bastards are already drinking the Kool-Aid.