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The Pocket-Sized Projector Has Arrived

mallumax writes "David Pogue of New York Times has reviewed the Pico, which is a pocket projector from Optoma. The review is quite entertaining (Pogue projects the images on to a plane's ceiling, leaving passengers baffled) and detailed. The highlights are: It is a pocket-sized projector which runs on batteries and can project images and videos from a variety of sources like iPhone, iPod and DVD players with a 480x320px resolution, with a maximum screen size of 65 inches at 8.5 feet. It uses a non-replaceable 10,000 hour LED lamp and a DLP chip from Texas Instruments. The battery lasts for 90 minutes and can be recharged through USB or with its own power cord. The device weighs 115g and comes with an inbuilt speaker which is practically useless. If you want one, it will set you back by $430."

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  1. AC/DC by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Angus Young has already said he wants one. Something about it having its very own power chord, I guess.

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    1. Re:AC/DC by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > with a 480x320px resolution, with a maximum screen size of 65 inches at 8.5 feet.

      That's about 7.4 pixels per inch, or roughly 1/3 cm per pixel. Blocky be thy middle name.

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  2. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by digitalchinky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a laser, so it should last like, 40 million hours or something. A tad longer than your average incandescent bulb.

  3. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's an LED with an anticipated life of 20,000 hours. That's, like, a war-crime's amount of PowerPoint.

    Can 'War Crime' be a unit of measurement for terribleness and quantity?

  4. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Gr33nNight · · Score: 5, Funny

    It sure is replaceable! Only $430!

  5. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by vux984 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A non-replaceable lamp on an LCD projector? No thanks.

    Given that its a "10,000 hour LED" it should last over a year of continuous use. At 8 hours a day every day it will last 3 years.

    At more realistic (but still high) levels of usage... say, 4 hours 4 times per week, we're looking at 12 years.

    In other words, you'll probably have upgraded multiple times before the bulb burns out.

  6. Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    The Pico I remember used laser diodes, not just a LED light.

    The lasers allow much greater efficiency - traditional projectors, like LCD Monitors, actually use more energy to display black, because it has to activate the cells to block light.

    In this case, the lasers just shut off, reducing power usage to what's actually needed to make the image, not to make a full while screen all the time.

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  7. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mod parent idiot. First, it's a DLP projector, not an LCD projector. Secondly, it has a rated lifespan of 10,000 hours. That's more than a complete year of life, or 13 years at 2 hours a day. Probably more than you'll actually want to use this projector.

    Also, while I'm boarding on flamebait, I'd like to point and laugh at the person who replied to me a couple of days ago when I posted about this claiming this device didn't exist.

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  8. 'nuf said by fermion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or you can lie in bed and point the thing straight up. In a dark room, you'll have yourself a huge, bright movie playing on the ceiling.

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    1. Re:'nuf said by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      I take it the ceilings in your home aren't stippled to reduce echos?

    2. Re:'nuf said by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      You can emulate mirrors on the ceiling with this thing and a decent webcam. I am so buying this, a webcam, and some c14715 or v14gr4.

    3. Re:'nuf said by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 1

      Ha, I've done this with my regular video projector. It's a little tricky to prop up a regular-sized projector correctly because they're a little heavy and the cords come out the back, but I found that I could use a couple of screws to mount it vertically to a heavy base designed for a LCD television. If you have a wall-mounted LCD TV, then you probably have one of these bases sitting around since they all come with one, and you have to remove it to wall-mount the TV.

    4. Re:'nuf said by L4m3rthanyou · · Score: 1

      I did the same thing, actually, but with a crappy Dell monitor stand I found in the garbage, and a smaller projector which was also found in the garbage. I modified the stand a bit to increase its range of motion as well, so the monitor stand works well as a general-purpose projector mount. :)

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  9. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's 20,000 hours. Short, but that's 250 8-hour days of continuous use.

    Your math is off. 20,000 / 8 is 2500 8-hour days of continuous use, nearly 7 years.

  10. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 1

    Eh? I divided 20,000 by 24 and got 833 days of 24 hour continuous use. Which is really closer to six-plus years of life, even if you assume 8-hour days, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

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  11. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Aladrin · · Score: 1

    2500, I think you mean. If it died in less than a year, I'd be upset. 10 years is a lot better.

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  12. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by dave420 · · Score: 1

    It's actually 2,500 days :)

  13. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    $430 to keep pens from leaking onto my shirt? No thanks...

  14. Re:Our New Leader Has Arrived by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank you and god bless.

    You had me until that part. Sorry, bro, no brownie points for you.

  15. Fun and Games by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pogue projects the images on to a plane's ceiling, leaving passengers baffled.

    Then he spent some quality time with the Air Marshall and DHS ...

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    1. Re:Fun and Games by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 4, Informative

      Then he spent some quality time with the Air Marshall and DHS ...

      The American War on the Unexpected at your service.

  16. Re:does size matter? by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being able to carry one in your laptop bag for impromptu meetings is a key use. Having one to project the latest episode of [insert favorite show here] from your cell phone is one of those cool applications you buy it for, even though you'll probably never use it that way.

    BTW - not every presentation occurs where there is a mounted projector. In the architecture field, for example, we often give presentations to smaller clients (churches, non-profits, individuals) in class or meeting rooms with nothing but a table, some chairs, and four white walls. These people don't have their "dream buildings" yet...which is why we're working with them.

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  17. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Facegarden · · Score: 1

    A non-replaceable lamp on an LCD projector? No thanks.

    That's 4 cents an hour to use it, if you factor the cost over 10,000 hours. That's 32 cents per 8 hour day. If you use a projector in a business setting for 8 hours and you can't afford 32 cents per day, you, sir, have bigger things to worry about.
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  18. Re:Our New Leader Has Arrived by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Poor form sir, poor form. What good is a paranoid rant without some mention of jew bankers, the international money cartel, black helicopters, and the plan to turn Mississippi into an al-quaeda training camp?

    -1: discredit to the white race.

  19. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's not much more than the cost to replace my *replacable* lamp for my home theater projector. Which is rated for only about 3k-5k hours.

  20. Nice by clarkkent09 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not exactly a gadget freak but I have to say I do want one of these (not at this price though). With the ability to store a whole bunch of video on a tiny device and the major problem of having to watch it on the little screen, this seems to fill the gap nicely. You just need a flat surface (as the review says, back of the seat in front of you on a plane or whatever) and you can watch it comfortably. And it still fits in your pocket. Why isn't everybody making them?

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  21. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    meh, typical projector bulbs can run $300-$500 anyway. (That is also one of the many drawbacks of DLP TVs)

  22. Its early for the technology by Hangtime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    for those around here that remember 1998, the Rio PMP300 was the 2nd but the most important MP3 player that came on the market. Not exactly ripping it up at 32 MB of RAM but an important introduction nonetheless and ultimately led to Creative and then Apple following with their MP3 players. Given that, in 10 years we may all have them on our key chains next to the USB terabyte drives.

    1. Re:Its early for the technology by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      We'll be at the terabyte USB stick within 5 years, if not sooner. 2 years ago, I got a Micro Cruzer for $40 at Walmart. Today, a 8GB cost $25 there and a 16GB $60 (43 at amazon). At that rate, in 2 years, it will be at 256GB and it's just a hop and skip to 1TB then.

    2. Re:Its early for the technology by kabocox · · Score: 1

      for those around here that remember 1998, the Rio PMP300 was the 2nd but the most important MP3 player that came on the market. Not exactly ripping it up at 32 MB of RAM but an important introduction nonetheless and ultimately led to Creative and then Apple following with their MP3 players. Given that, in 10 years we may all have them on our key chains next to the USB terabyte drives.

      Nah, it'll be yet another feature for our everything device the cellphone/pda/mp3 player/video player/data storage device/camera. Now it'll also be a projector. If we ever figure out force fields or 3d light projection, we'll toss a holo projector in there as well. There is a part of me that thinks it may be "simpler" if we figure out how to just interface data storage and I/O directly with the human mind... I know that we've been working on that as well, but I kinda feel that we'll shrink down that everything device to a smaller than current watch battery size before we figure out how to nicely biologically interface it with us.

      I want some one to finally toss that everything device into a decent looking pair of glasses. (Not one that some one across the room makes you feel/look like a dork for wearing/using.) I'll just have to wait for it all to shrink, shrink, and shrink some more before it all easily fits there.

    3. Re:Its early for the technology by blisteringsilence · · Score: 1

      I actually just found my Rio in a box I was looking through the other day. It was still in its case, with 4 extra AA's, and 4 of those 64MB wafer flash cards. You remember, the ones with the gold contacts that were so poorly electroplated that the gold came off if you inserted them too many times? How bad of a gadget nerd am I? I preordered my PMP300 2 days before that bastard judge issued the TRO that kept Diamond from shipping them. Yeah, I'll likely buy this projector. It'll be something new to keep me amused in airplanes / airports.

  23. Baffled by terbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The people on the plane were baffled when they saw *porn* on the ceiling . ." and you thought cell phones were annoying when they came out . .

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    1. Re:Baffled by ozbird · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and you thought cell phones were annoying when they came out . .

      They still are.

    2. Re:Baffled by clarkkent09 · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about making a video of a crack appearing on a white wall (matching exactly the color of the airplane ceiling) and slowly spreading until sky starts to show through and then perhaps a goblin peering in or something, and projecting that on the plane ceiling. Fun.

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    3. Re:Baffled by afidel · · Score: 1

      +1 Billion

      /Twilight Zone reference =)

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    4. Re:Baffled by Molochi · · Score: 1

      Shine a clip of that scene out the window as you pass through a cloud layer. Bonus points if Bill is on the plane.

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  24. 3M did it first. by Facegarden · · Score: 5, Informative

    3M makes and sells a very pocketable battery powered projector already. It has been for sale for a couple of months. Has better specs too, and it's cheaper. I'm not sure why we have articles that ignore stuff like this. I know we can't be experts on everything, but man, the author couldn't do a quick google search for pico projectors?
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    1. Re:3M did it first. by TrekkieTechie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention it's cheaper too.

    2. Re:3M did it first. by puppetman · · Score: 1

      Actually, the 3M is a bit bigger...

      The size of the 3M version is 11.5 x 5 x 2.2 cm (that's about 5 inches by 2 inches by .8 inches for those who haven't evolved).

      The Optima is "2 by 4.1 by 0.7 inches, weighing 4.2 ounces."

      What we need is a head to head by a reputable, unbiased website.Like Gamespot maybe.

    3. Re:3M did it first. by Smauler · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, and I should also point out it's cheaper as well.

    4. Re:3M did it first. by Facegarden · · Score: 1

      Actually, the 3M is a bit bigger...

      The size of the 3M version is 11.5 x 5 x 2.2 cm (that's about 5 inches by 2 inches by .8 inches for those who haven't evolved).

      The Optima is "2 by 4.1 by 0.7 inches, weighing 4.2 ounces."

      What we need is a head to head by a reputable, unbiased website.Like Gamespot maybe.

      Well, i said pocketable, not smaller. It's .9 inches longer and .1 inches thicker. For a higher resolution image and $100 less, i'll deal with the added size.
      But actually, the dell pico projector suits my needs more than any of these, even though it's larger. As soon as it drops back down to $400 (i saw it for ONE DAY recently, but i was broke), i'm going to get one.
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    5. Re:3M did it first. by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to mention it's cheaper too.

      I thought he did...

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    6. Re:3M did it first. by scharkalvin · · Score: 3, Informative

      Link is here:
      http://www.3mmpro.com/

    7. Re:3M did it first. by jimicus · · Score: 1

      3M makes and sells a very pocketable battery powered projector already. It has been for sale for a couple of months. Has better specs too, and it's cheaper. I'm not sure why we have articles that ignore stuff like this. I know we can't be experts on everything, but man, the author couldn't do a quick google search for pico projectors?
      -Taylor

      And according to The Register, it's borderline unusable.

      (Got to admire how a product which by their own admission "The first unit sent was nigh on impossible to use, because the cable had to be held in some impossible position to get a picture. The second unit involved a similar palaver but, with the aid of a tripod and a few books to support the cable, once a picture had been established it would remain, so long as you didnâ(TM)t touch it." still gets 50%)

    8. Re:3M did it first. by TrekkieTechie · · Score: 1

      Whoops.

    9. Re:3M did it first. by Zone-MR · · Score: 1

      Seems the 3M projector got featured on /. too.

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/15/0046201

      "The pocket-size projector has arrived" ... again.

    10. Re:3M did it first. by catch23 · · Score: 1

      Yeah that one is nice... much better resolution too (1280x768) and uses a LED bulb as well. The 3M one has VGA input which is probably more suitable for laptops, the Pico only has A/V input so if you don't have one of those laptops with composite A/V output, you're out of luck.

    11. Re:3M did it first. by initialE · · Score: 1

      Did you happen to mention that you don't have to pay as much money for that one? Because I think you left out that part.

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    12. Re:3M did it first. by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

      Samsung, LG and Mitsubishi have been making this class of projector as well. The Samsung units have broken 100 lumens (10 times the brightness of the Optoma).

    13. Re:3M did it first. by Facegarden · · Score: 1

      Not to mention it's cheaper too.

      I thought he did...

      Haha, i wasn't gonna say anything, heh.
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    14. Re:3M did it first. by Pebby · · Score: 1

      I think the 3M one would also be less of a hit to your bank account.

  25. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Power Point? Who the hell is going to be using this thing for Power Point?

    Sheesh, it fits in a your pants pocket. So does a video iPod. Add porn to this lovely mixture. Do I have to say anything more?

  26. Re:does size matter? by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, Mr. Gates, three meters is nine feet. Perhaps I'm mistaken in assuming that's nine feet diagonal as monitors are usually measured, but that's twice as big as my TV, which is over twice as big as any screen I've ever owned.

    It doesn't say that the room has to be smaller than three meters; that's the maximum size of the projection.

  27. And how many lumens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not surprisingly, the tech specs (http://www.optoma.co.uk/PicoIntro.aspx) don't say how bright the thing is.

    The review claims 9 lumens - pretty dim.

    1. Re:And how many lumens? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I believe there are other versions. Dell was advertising one in email a couple weeks ago with 50 lumens, though I don't know if that was rated or real-world. It was also 640x480 I think.

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  28. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Ant+P. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not to mention if they can't spare 4 cents an hour, they wouldn't be able to afford the electricity to run a full-size projector in the first place.

  29. Talk about your feature creep by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 4, Funny

    While vi became vim, this is a huge jump in functionality for Pico

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  30. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It sure is replaceable! Only $430!

    The $430 price is only for new adopters. It'll be $19.95 by the time you have to replace it.

  31. It's been done. by TofuMatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    No HD, no wireless, no shaver. Lame.

    This is where's it's at.

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  32. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by camperdave · · Score: 5, Informative

    traditional projectors, like LCD Monitors, actually use more energy to display black, because it has to activate the cells to block light.

    That may be true in LCD shutter technologies, such as an LCD monitor. This baby uses DLP technology, which is essentially a chip covered in tiny steerable mirrors. To produce black, they simply aim the mirror off-screen. It costs essentially no more energy to produce black vs any other color.

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  33. Bad Eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I must be old. I read the title as "Pocket-protector"

    1. Re:Bad Eyes by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      I'm glad they finally came out with some pocket-sized pocket protectors!

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  34. Goodbye webserver... by felix85 · · Score: 1
  35. Re:does size matter? by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Being able to carry one in your laptop bag for impromptu meetings is a key use. Having one to project the latest episode of [insert favorite show here] from your cell phone is one of those cool applications you buy it for, even though you'll probably never use it that way.

    I suspect the opposite is true, and it will find acceptance mainly as a display for iPods, netbooks, etc. As a replacement for business or home theater projector, it is mostly just less bright, since the size usually doesn't matter (most conference rooms have a projector available anyways). But screen size is a real limiting factor in making smaller iPods, laptops, and PDAs - they are totally size-limited by I/O (screens and keyboards).

  36. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    When will LEDs hit 'big' projectors (720p+)? I'm pondering a home theater setup, but the cost of bulbs is turning me off. Especially when I remember in school if you didn't shut down properly or bumped the overhead, Poof.

    Second. Where are all the 'important' stats on this projector? Lumens, Contrast Ratio, etc.

  37. New Uses by cowtamer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This opens up entirely new uses for a projector for the nerdy crowd:

    Some examples/ideas:
      * Projector tiling
      * Cheap, portable 3D Scanning
      * Real-time photo sharing (obvious)
      * Portable video-conferencing, telepresence (think projector-screen-like avatars around the screen with a tiny projector attached to each of them)
      * Pseudo-Invisibility!! (Think helmet-mounted camera, white t-shirt, dorky looking wearable projector mount)
      * Head-Mounted Projector applications (other types of invisibility, "Virtual Cockpit", freaking people out at night clubs, etc.)

    1. Re:New Uses by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Pfft. I'll be plugging it to a handheld console and project Asteroids or Pac-Man.

      Antiquated classic fun video games + the bleeding edge of portable technology = teh win.

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    2. Re:New Uses by modecx · · Score: 1

      You've missed the most obvious one:

      * covertly projecting goatse on the walls of fancy french restaurants.

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    3. Re:New Uses by heson · · Score: 1

      The future is soon here, no more bulky laptops: http://www.3mmpro.com/specifications.aspx + foldable screen + https://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5847784.html + pda/powerful phone + http://www.xaphoon.com/dataegg/

  38. A power chord... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...is a note played on an electric guitar played simultaneously with the note whose frequency is approximately 50% higher. The simple ratio means you get nice interaction between harmonics, even when the guitar is heavily distorted. They're very popular with many guitarists and are easy to play. Bands ranging from Hawkwind to Nirvana made/make great use of them. They don't usually come with projectors.

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      But what they lack in the third leg of a triad they more than make up for with harmonic richness generated by the nonlinear effects of distortion. In effect, they have as many overtones as any true chord and so, unlike power cords, fully deserve the appellation 'chord'.

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  39. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by snarkh · · Score: 1

    20k hours is almost three years of continuous use.

  40. Re:Mod parent up by spazdor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Posting AC doesn't undo moderation.

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  41. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

    + -pants.

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  42. 9 lumens. 9. by Phanatic1a · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When it goes on sale in two weeks, it will give parents a completely portable backseat-of-the-minivan movie theater for the kids.

    Sure, provided you're driving at night, or with all the windows painted over.

  43. Parent is funny. by spazdor · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Pocket projector."
    I can't believe no one made this pun before now.

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  44. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by LandDolphin · · Score: 2, Funny

    7 years! that isnt enough time. We will hardly be able to cover the new TPS Coversheets;

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  45. Re:Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And yet there is no more redundant modifier on the great-grandparent post. You sir, are wrong.

  46. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who cares if the lamp is non-replaceable (not an LCD, anyway).

    What is a pocket protector doing with a lamp anyway? I've been ridiculed enough for using one without a lamp, why would I want to light it up and draw even more attention to it?

    Is this some new kind of nerd bling?

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  47. Great! by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now you'll be able to tell the geeks, because they will be the ones with the pocket-projectors.

    1. Re:Great! by ZankerH · · Score: 1

      Because the secret handshake isn't obvious enough?
      Oh, wait, forget I said that. There is no secret handshake.

    2. Re:Great! by Limburgher · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Great! by initialE · · Score: 1

      "Is that a projector in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"

      Uh huh...
       
      /me runs...

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  48. Re:9 lumens. 9. by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    I think you missed the point. It's one thing that the breeders have their children watching movies in the relative privacy of their own vehicles. What you should be afraid of, is that you will be subjected to all this in places you thought were safe.

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  49. Temporal dithering with millions of mirrors by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    This baby uses DLP technology, which is essentially a chip covered in tiny steerable mirrors. To produce black, they simply aim the mirror off-screen. It costs essentially no more energy to produce black vs any other color.

    Then gray must be even harder because it has to aim the mirrors back and forth rapidly.

    1. Re:Temporal dithering with millions of mirrors by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      I imagine the power costs of the DLP mirror chip to be negligible. Heck, even energy needed to black LCD cells isn't much compared to the backlight.

      Not to mention that you're still throwing away, on average, over 50% of the light you're producing. While LEDs are more efficient that current generation lasers, it doesn't overcome that.

      The projector I remember is both smaller(matchbox sized) and brighter.

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    2. Re:Temporal dithering with millions of mirrors by tg2k · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then gray must be even harder because it has to aim the mirrors back and forth rapidly.

      Not at all true.

      DLP technology uses precise timing to control the exposure of each pixel to exactly match the gray level. It's the only technology that is actually digital right up to where it hits your eyes and you "integrate" it into color.

      So for each fraction of time where DLP handles a single color (true for all but cinemas with 3-DLP technology) the brighter portions are simply reflected out the lens for longer than the darker portions. No need to go back and forth. Remember that DLP is swapping entire colors as well, and is doing this faster than even 1/3 of a frame would entail, because being so "slow" would cause the dreaded RBE (Rainbow Effect). LEDs (I have an LED DLP TV by Samsung) can avoid this by being super fast; color wheel DLPs have never quite gotten to this point, though they're good enough for most people. Note that I have no idea whether the LEDs in this projector are as fast as those in my Samsung TV.

      In any case, bottom line: For each sub-frame displayed, turn the mirrors on one time and off one time. That's all you really need, because multiple sub-frames (many per color) are being integrated into a single color frame in the first place.

      Disclaimer: I may be slightly incorrect on some terminology here. It's been a couple years since I was big into reading up on DLP, but it's a fabulous technology.

  50. Re:Mod parent up by Enki+X · · Score: 1

    No he isn't. Somebody else just "fixed it for ya"

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  51. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    You could try building your own! You'll need an array of them, and a heat sink. Probably a parabolic reflector too, but very doable.

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  52. Small data error by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 2, Informative

    TFA states that it's a 20,000 hour bulb, not 10,000 as the summary suggests.

    Just FYI.

    1. Re:Small data error by antic · · Score: 1

      Might be wrong, but I think typical projector bulbs are usually replaced after they reach their half-way point. Might've confused someone.

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  53. Re:Mod parent up by Endo13 · · Score: 1

    Yes it does, if you're posting while logged in to your account. The only way to *not* undo moderation is to make sure you're posting from a browser that's not logged into your account.

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  54. Re:Mod parent up by wastedlife · · Score: 1

    It does if you are logged in and click the checkbox to Post Anonymously instead of signing out. Being signed out might still do it if they base it on IP or session info, but I can't say for sure.

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  55. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Plutonite · · Score: 1

    The term you're looking for is "genocidal".

    On a related note, using powerpoint with an ingenious device like this one should amount to some civil offense in a district court.. abuse of technology or something. It is quite clear was this device was made for.

  56. Re:Chord/Cord by danahyatt · · Score: 1

    Sooooo funny uvajed_ekil. I hope you always find a place to plug-in your cord.

  57. Re:Mod parent up by Smauler · · Score: 2, Funny

    A little known fact about /. : Anonymous Coward actually has infinite mod points, but since he can't help but post to every discussion, he reverts all his modding.

  58. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by mustafap · · Score: 1

    If he is watching 8 hours TV a day, no wonder he cant do division!

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  59. Re:does size matter? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, the summary says 65 inches. Less than three meters, but a hair more than two. I must not be getting your point.

  60. Even better... by PontifexPrimus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even better, imagine making short clips of those creepy pale black-eyed children from Japanese horror movies and projecting them at random...

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  61. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by von_rick · · Score: 1

    He obviously didn't use the decimal system. Stop thinking in terms of base 10!

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  62. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by bazorg · · Score: 1

    or in other words, if the device gets even smaller and gets embeddded in laptop PCs the lifespan of the bulb will be a non issue.

  63. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by Strange+Quark+Star · · Score: 1

    You're remembering the PicoP from Microvision, which is the only "pico projector" that will use lasers http://www.microvision.com/pico_projector_displays/howitworks.html . Everything else is just a small DLP.

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  64. Don't Take the Fifth! by shking · · Score: 1
    A spell checker can be your best friend, but sometimes your friends will betray you.
    1. A power chord is a note plus the note a fifth above, usually played on electric guitar.
    2. A power cord is a cord or cable that temporarily connects an electrical appliance to the distribution circuits of an electrical power source via a wall socket or extension cord.
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  65. Re:9 lumens. 9. by Limburgher · · Score: 1

    Speaking as a parent, I .. . .you got me.

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  66. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Shaitan+Apistos · · Score: 1

    Can 'War Crime' be a unit of measurement for terribleness and quantity?

    I find it really difficult to get a new measurement out of my head until I've found a place to use it.

    For example, I'm 200 pages into writing a romance novel for the sole purpose of using the line 'He was hung like Armageddon.' I've never even read a romance novel.

  67. Re:does size matter? by von_rick · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, the summary says 65 inches. Less than three meters, but a hair more than two.

    [citation needed]

    Please provide the math by which you arrived at hair more than 2m.

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  68. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a laser, so it should last like, 40 million hours or something. A tad longer than your average incandescent bulb.

    I'm not sure if we're talking about the same product, but the one in TFA uses a non-replaceable 9 Lumen LED rated for 20,000 hours (/.'s summary says 10,000)

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  69. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 2, Funny

    The XBOX version or the PC version?

  70. Lifespan? by WED+Fan · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a laser, so it should last like, 40 million hours or something...

    What's the average lifespan of a shark, cause I'd hate to need to replace a burnt out laser on one of those frickin' things.

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  71. Re:does size matter? by Chirs · · Score: 1

    I really hope you're not serious...

  72. Being a real geek by raddan · · Score: 1

    I'm probably going to wait until I can get one with a pocket projector protector.

  73. VGA connector by Amamdouh · · Score: 1

    I think its uses in business will be limited without a way to connect it to a laptop for a slide presentation

  74. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by cascajal · · Score: 2, Informative

    on the article... 9 lumens

  75. throw distance by erbbysam · · Score: 1

    I was looking at the information on the I saw the "throw distance" of 1.9...
    and I started to think that this device could only be throw 1.9 meters and how I could totally throw it further.

  76. Re:9 lumens. 9. by Warhawke · · Score: 1

    Sure, provided you're driving at night, or with all the windows painted over.

    Well, it's not like opaque windows could make minivan soccer moms any worse at driving...

  77. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by raddan · · Score: 1

    A laser and and LED are two completely different things, except that they both occasionally excel at rendering retinal tissue useless.

  78. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    How's $50 for a 400 W bulb every 20,000 hours? It helps when you save a lot building your own 1080p projector from a $380 kit and an LCD monitor.

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  79. Re:does size matter? by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

    According to my numbers, 65 inches == 1.651 meters.

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  80. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

    The fact it's an LED makes me feel better... most projectors I've ever worked with have been rather fragile in the bulb area...

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  81. Re:Mod parent up by afidel · · Score: 1

    Actually as long as the post comes from your IP it undoes moderation. Have you noticed the slowness in the preview button returning the first time you use it in a day, that's because slashdot is reaching out and scanning your IP for open proxies, they also attach that IP to your posts and moderations.

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  82. Re:Not very happy to see me by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    I say anyone really happy to see me would be packing at least 720p in their pocket.

    So US$11.25?

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  83. Re:does size matter? by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

    Two meters is about 78 inches (I used to build 2m R/C sailplanes), so it's almost-but-not-quite 2m. To be precise, 65 inches is 1.65m.

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  84. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

    or contractions?

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  85. Related to the Beagleboard? by Jorophose · · Score: 1

    I remember that the guys behind the beagleboard wanted to build a portable mini projector... Is this what they were building?

  86. Re:Mod parent up by Clandestine_Blaze · · Score: 1

    It does - I've done it before and was given the message that my moderation was undone. The AC logged in, but checked "Post Anonymously", which only hides your user name and ID from the post. Not the same as logging out and then posting anonymously.

  87. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by timothy · · Score: 1

    "Also, while I'm boarding on flamebait ..."

    - how do you spice that?
    - Does that give you any heartburn?
    - your grocery bills must be amazing!
    - the ironing is delicious ;)

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  88. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by smoker2 · · Score: 1

    Seriously , nine ?
    I struggle with 2000 in daylight.

  89. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by eh2o · · Score: 1

    Interesting, How do they deal with the speckle problem created by the coherent light source?

  90. Just think of the trouble you can get into w/this by schlick · · Score: 1

    So screw LED sign of Ignignok or Er in an odd location. This projector + Smallest iPod w/video + reasonable sized external battery pack, and you have "terrorist" device that will have Boston PD shitting themselves! Porn will be everywhere!!!

    Video graffiti!!!

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  91. Help Me Obi Wan --- you're my only hope. by Yergle143 · · Score: 1

    iWant1

  92. Is that a projector in your pocket... by PearsSoap · · Score: 1

    ... or are you just happy to see me?
    Seriously, though, are they coming to Europe?

  93. yeah!!! a full 9 lumens... by ZeroNullVoid · · Score: 1

    yeah!!! a full 9 lumens...

  94. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    Never having seen it actually in use, I couldn't say. Could be that they deliberately detune it a bit when it goes through the combiner.

    After that it works a lot like a CRT monitor, constantly redrawing the screen.

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  95. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by uniquename72 · · Score: 1

    Idea for a massive new industry: bathroom stall movie screens "brought to you by" X.

  96. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

    Dunno for sure, but there are a few ways to deal with the problem, most of which are covered under patents, of course. Basically the idea is to quickly (i.e. above 30 Hz or so) vary the phase of the light over a wide area so your eye doesn't have time to perceive the speckle.

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  97. Digikey has one to compliment the Beagleboard by bombledmonk · · Score: 1

    An even cheaper version will be available from Digikey in Jan. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=296-23836-ND

  98. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by mysidia · · Score: 1

    With 2 hours of battery life, you won't be running this thing 8 hours for 1 day in a row, let alone 250... the LCD usage should last 5-10 years even with the most heavy usage that should occur in practice.

    Other components are (perhaps) just as likely to fail within that huge length of time.

  99. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by toddestan · · Score: 1

    It should also be noted that 20,000 hours is about the expected lifetime for the backlight on regular LCD panels too, and these backlight generally aren't replaceable in most LCD monitors. I wouldn't worry about it - like your computer monitor you'll probably replace it before it stops working, or if it manages to reach the EOL the comprable replacement is going to be dirt cheap by that time.

  100. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by mysidia · · Score: 1

    LED. I believe Microvision's Pico projector is the manufacturer that is/was planning a laser-based Pico projector.

    It would seem they had a great plan, but another company (Optoma) has now beaten them to the market with a LED projector.

    So most likely Optium will now command the market, and the Laser projector will suffer the same fate as Betamax/Laser disk.

    That is.. unless Microvision really does get the Laser projector out fast, and consumers buy theirs instead for some reason.

    But if their target market all buys the LED projectors before the Laser projector could be finished, they'll have noone to sell to.....

  101. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by mmclean · · Score: 1

    At 20,000 hours, you can just toss it and get the n'th gen version -- It's only 2.5 cents per minute. Running it 24x7 is over two years, not accounting for any extra lamp wear from 24x7 operation.

  102. Re:Chord/Cord by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    Um, okay...

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  103. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by catch23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They should make the battery replaceable. I think the battery will die long before the LED dies off.

  104. Re:Chord/Cord by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what you read, but the summary has been edited, I think. My original response was prompted by the term "power chord" in the summary, when it should have read "power cord." Here's a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour#Understanding_humour.

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  105. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    Basically the idea is to quickly (i.e. above 30 Hz or so) vary the phase of the light over a wide area so your eye doesn't have time to perceive the speckle.

    Given that we're not only combining 3 lasers, we're also left and right starting around 38k times a second, and up and down at least 60 times a second, moving it through more than 3/4 a million pixels equivalents every 1/60th of a second.

    I think that varying the phase wouldn't be a big deal.

    Then again, the whole thing depends on a bit of light that stays in one spot for only millionths of a second, lasting for hundredths in our perception. It might not be hanging around long enough for the sparkle to be visible.

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  106. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    So most likely Optium will now command the market, and the Laser projector will suffer the same fate as Betamax/Laser disk.

    Well, it might not either - DLP is later technology than LCD, but both persist, and I'd even say DLP is gaining in projector fields.

    The LED device is around the size of a wallet. The laser one prototype was the size of one of those small matchboxes. Going by this website, they've gotten that down to a penny. Going by Microvision's own site, they're looking to integrate the laser technology into a cell phone. If it can be made cheap, durable, and effective enough, it'll be able to carve it's own niche easily enough.

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  107. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    So it should last at LEAST 2.2 years of 24/7 operation. Assuming you haven't broken it before then, not only would you have gotten your money out of it, you should have no problem going out and buying a new one that's 3/4 the size, double the resolution and brightness*.

    *Though that'd also double the wattage it needs without some major efficiency gains, so maybe not.

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  108. Cell Phone, actually by loteck · · Score: 1

    I know a guy who works on this tech, they can already fit in a cell phone. It's just not affordable. He tells me as the price of the lasers comes down, it will become commonplace to have a projector in your cell phone. I think he anticipated 2010...

  109. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

    Given that we're not only combining 3 lasers, we're also left and right starting around 38k times a second, and up and down at least 60 times a second, moving it through more than 3/4 a million pixels equivalents every 1/60th of a second. I think that varying the phase wouldn't be a big deal.

    I've not worked with the laser-based TV systems, but I've had lots and lots of experience with industrial beam-steered lasers, and my experience with those that use visible wavelengths is that they exhibit extremely strong speckle no matter how fast the beam is being moved around. If the beam is being placed in exactly the same spot, with the optical path being exactly the same length, I'd think there's a pretty good chance speckle would continue to be an issue, but I can't support that prediction observationally. The problem is that you have to continuously vary the phase across the entire width of the beam such that the speckle is being changed faster than the eye can perceive. I suppose one way to do it might be by distorting the focusing lens by a fraction of a wavelength such that the optical path length on subsequent scans of a given pixel would vary quickly enough to be below the threshold of perception.

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  110. CNN still waiting by dazlari · · Score: 1

    CNN are still waiting for the Pocket Holographic Projector edition to come out.
    Until then, they're happy to fake it.

  111. Awesome spray by vikstar · · Score: 1

    1) Purchase Pico
    2) Upload animated "player decoy" Counter-Strike spray into iPod
    3) Project onto wall
    4) ....
    5) Profit!!!

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  112. 480x320? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    No wonder they didn't post the resolution even under "technical specifications" on their website. (The flash movie may very well say what it is, but I didn't load the damn dirty thing.) 3M's projector has twice as many pixels... And it's about seventy bucks cheaper. Might as well have the slashvertisement for the better product, eh? Gotta put one of these suckers on my wish list for sure. I think this is just the display device to use for a motion simulator.

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  113. Same tech as Microvision? by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    Trying to figure out whats what here...

    microvision.com

  114. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by Cor-cor · · Score: 1

    Seriously , nine ? I struggle with 2000 in daylight.

    From the way the article is written, this will probably be used for very different situations than what you use your projector for. Mine struggles to keep up with daylight, too. However, the closer I move it towards the screen, the brighter it gets, so you sacrifice screen size for brightness. This thing just changes the sweet spot to a much smaller size in order to add portability - I'd see it moving more into the niche of portable TVs and DVD players than going toe-to-toe with the projectors that are out there today. Plus it's cool as shit.

  115. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by darc · · Score: 1

    Speaking of War Crimes, have you considered just how horrifying this device will be?

    You can be Rick Rolled without even being at a computer. Rickroll on opening the fridge. Rickroll has been set free.

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  116. Cool idea, but still pretty much useless for most. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

    Not so good for the regular consumer.

    If you're using it to play videos, then suddenly, you need a second device and a wire. If you need headphones, then it becomes three devices and another wire, which means it becomes awkward and tangled to use and store, which means it won't get used unless you are really driven. And if the intent is to share the experience with more than just yourself, you'd need more than one second set of head phones.

    I can see a pocket projector becoming much more useful when it includes a decent sound system, has increased luminosity and plays media directly from a USB memory stick, all of which are possible. Though, for a single user, a netbook does all of that and much more.

    Remember? TV's allowed us to view things without having to turn out the lights or worry about setting up a projector.

    Still, if you happen to be doing lots of small presentations on the road, I can see this device as having real benefit over lugging around a big projector.

    -FL

  117. Lighter than Divistar one, but more expensive by lolop · · Score: 1

    Have you seen the Divistar one sold at Pearl ?

    Maybe too big for pockets... but it looks nice, and is less expensive than the Pico.

    http://www.pearl.fr/article-PX3140.html

    * LED, 20.000h
    * 63,5cm (25") image at 1m
    * 100:1 contrast
    * builtin speaker 1W
    * silent fan
    * VGA and Cinch-AV
    * Screw thread for tripod
    * Size: 90x44x80mm
    * Weight: 200g

    And its 170 euros with 19.6% taxes (aroud 240 US$).

    I wait to see such device working, I'm in doubt about light power and image quality with such contrast.

    Note: the euro symbol (â) is not recognized in plain old text mode.

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    1. Re:Lighter than Divistar one, but more expensive by lolop · · Score: 1

      For people reading french, there is a test of the Divistar PX-3140 here:

      http://www.planetenumerique.com/Divistar-PX-3140-onthego-un.html?artsuite=0

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  118. Chinese copycat is one step faster this time... by sam0737 · · Score: 1

    They are selling a mobile phone + palm size projector

    Review:
    http://www.cheaa.com/Product/DH/HangQing/2008/11/37964152257.html
    http://chinese.engadget.com/2008/08/26/epoq-egp-pp01-kirf-projector-phone-now-shipping/

    just for 2000RMB (~285USD).

    It claims to have 34-64 inches projected screen at 1-2 meter @ 640*480 resolution, does not mention the lumen though.

    Better yet, looks like the speaker is much larger :P And after all it's a cell phone too.

  119. Re:Mod parent up by Endo13 · · Score: 1

    Nope. I've posted AC plenty of times from the same IP without undoing moderation. The only thing the system cares about is whether or not you're logged in when you post.

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  120. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by UnderCoverPenguin · · Score: 1

    A non-replaceable lamp on an LCD projector? No thanks.

    Given that its a "10,000 hour LED" it should last over a year of continuous use. At 8 hours a day every day it will last 3 years.

    When you consider a "traditional" projector lamp lasts about 3000 hours, $450 for the whole unit is pretty darn good. The least costly replacement lamp I've seen is $100 and that was for a $600 (discounted price) projector, for a total of $900 (granted that gives you 12000 hours of lamp life).

    On the other hand, my 94cm (37in) LCD television cost only $600 and its CCF back lighting has a rated half life of 50,000 hours. (I wonder how LED back lit units compare.)

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  121. Re:does size matter? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    This one, at 320x240 probably isn't, but the competitors are 640x480 certainly are. Marketing presentations are nothing like business meetings - they're all pretty pictures with captions.

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  122. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

    This isn't a pico, it's a pocket projector. Different class. Many of the pico units do use lasers.

  123. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by mustafap · · Score: 1

    Or capitalization at the beginning of sentences?

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  124. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    Technically, it IS a pico, or at least named that:

    "David Pogue of New York Times has reviewed the Pico, which is a pocket projector from Optoma.

    I was initially confused a bit because I remembered a pico under development a different company that used lasers to increase efficiency and reduce size.

    This Pico, at most, is a generational improvement.

    The laser one, as far as I know, would be a breakthrough design - a full color laser image producer? That would be a first on the market.

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  125. Industrial lasers by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't industrial lasers be far, far more powerful than the ones we're talking about? Plus, wouldn't any individual instance of speckle be minimized by the small footprint of any given pixel?

    How hard is it to vary the phase? Given that you mention changing the phase faster than the eye can perceive, wouldn't the fact that we have a mirror moving the beam in the kilohertz sideways mean that the beam is moving faster than the eye can perceive anyways?

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    1. Re:Industrial lasers by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Yes, most industrial lasers are Class IV. I'm not sure I understand what the power of the laser has to do with the issue - speckle is present anytime you have any kind of coherent light source, regardless of power. A 5 watt green YAG doesn't speckle any more or less than a 5 milliwatt unit.

      wouldn't the fact that we have a mirror moving the beam in the kilohertz sideways mean that the beam is moving faster than the eye can perceive

      Yes, but as long as the optical path is the same length at any given point, speckle will still be seen at that point. Moving the beam laterally doesn't change that path length at a given point, and thus isn't altering the phase of the light at that point. Consequently, you'll have the same visible interference pattern there, which is all speckle really is. Not having seen a laser-driven TV set though, I really couldn't say how objectionable the speckle might be, so it could be a total non-issue.

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  126. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

    Touché

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  127. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

    I fail it

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    whois gawk date unzip strip find touch finger mount join nice man top fsck grep eject more yes exit umount sleep dump
  128. Re:Huh... Didn't the thing use lasers... by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

    And so you are correct. I was assuming this was a pocket class unit because of the title of TFS.

    This appears to be one of the smaller pico units like the LED unit from 3M, and laser projectors from Microvision and Symbol Tech.

  129. Re:The lamp is non-replaceable? by samwichse · · Score: 1

    Um... it is replaceable.

    The article even mentions it comes with a spare battery (for 3 hours playback time).

    Sam