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Steve Jobs Issues Update On His Health

i4u writes "Rumors about Steve Jobs' health have been flying high again after Apple announced that he will not be holding the keynote at the Macworld 2009. Today Steve Jobs issued a letter with a rather personal update on why he was losing weight in 2008. The reason for losing weight in 2008 is a hormone imbalance that has been reducing proteins. The remedy for this nutritional problem is relatively simple and straightforward according to Jobs. Steve and his doctors predict that he will have normal weight again by Spring. So stop the rumors and enjoy Macworld 2009."

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  1. Hormonal Imbalance? by SetupWeasel · · Score: 4, Funny

    If anime has taught me anything, Steve Jobs should be back to work in no time with a huge rack.

    1. Re:Hormonal Imbalance? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hope not, I've heard that the iRack is unstable.

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    2. Re:Hormonal Imbalance? by powerlord · · Score: 3, Funny

      As an FYI on the above joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcjLEwZqcQI

      Truly funny MadTV skit.

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    3. Re:Hormonal Imbalance? by Sentry21 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great, like Mac fanboys aren't in infatuated with him enough already.

    4. Re:Hormonal Imbalance? by mattwarden · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Truly funny MadTV skit.

      I know; I was just as shocked as you were.

  2. News because by Kamokazi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    from the can't-believe-this-is-news dept

    When many people believe that the continued success of a large company depends on one individual, his health becomes news.

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    1. Re:News because by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When many people believe that the continued success of a large company depends on one individual, his health becomes news.

      That's because in Apple's case, it's more than a belief. Apple's success does depend on Steve Jobs, strangely enough. Remember John Sculley?

    2. Re:News because by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When many people believe that the continued success of a large company depends on one individual, his health becomes news.

      And this is all the more reason for Mr. Jobs to stop giving the keynote. Apple needs to break this perception that Mr. Jobs is Apple. He can't go on working there forever, and if they want to survive once he retires, they need to get him to take a back seat for awhile so the ninny-headed stock holders stop believing the sky is falling every time Mr. Jobs gets a cold.

      Incidentally, it's not surprising that Mr. Jobs might have this happen, a lot of people as they get older have thyroid or other changes that cause them to gain or lose weight. E.g. Bush Sr. had that thyroid operation when he was president because it was becoming overactive IIRC.

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    3. Re:News because by tritonman · · Score: 4, Funny

      yea, they need someone who has the hormones of a 13 year old girl to design their products!

    4. Re:News because by Mr_Perl · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember John Sculley?

      People usually pick inferior successors, egomaniacs even moreso. Makes their own "term in office" look better. It was Jobs who set up that failure and Jobs who profited from it on his return.

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    5. Re:News because by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sure, if by "set up that failure" you mean "was forced out by that failure".

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    6. Re:News because by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, that *would* explain the pastel color schemes...

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    7. Re:News because by loshwomp · · Score: 2, Funny

      When many people believe that the continued success of a large company depends on one individual, his health becomes news.

      Seeing that much more people care about "lose" vs. "loose" - I don't think so.

      I think you mean many more people.

    8. Re:News because by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Right, but he wasn't picked as a successor. Sculley was to run the day-to-day stuff, leaving Jobs to be the 'visionary leader' over the Macintosh project. Later, it was Sculley who forced Jobs out, mostly because Jobs was trying to basically set the Macintosh group up as totally independent from the rest of the company.

    9. Re:News because by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sculley had the the thing running into the ground well before Spindler came along to piss on Apple's fresh grave. Amelio, believe it or not, was relatively good for Apple -- it was through his efforts that Apple bought NeXT and brought Jobs on board.

    10. Re:News because by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Next step is for #2 to come out with "Steve Jobs has actually been dead for 3 years". Maybe not that extreme but the best way to reassure investors is to think that Jobs is running everything while having someone else actually run everything.

    11. Re:News because by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He's a catalyst. He's not arguably good at anything that's directly useful to development, sales or marketing, but he fires employees and customers up. You could say he's the soul of his company.

      My boss is like that: he doesn't know much about the products we make and how they're made, nor is he particularly good at promoting or selling them, but he could convince you to put on suntan lotion in the middle of a blizzard storm.

    12. Re:News because by rishistar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yea, they need someone who has the hormones of a 13 year old girl to buy their products!

      There, fixed that for you.

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    13. Re:News because by Bourbonium · · Score: 2, Funny

      Remember Gil Amelio? He followed Scully, and proceeded to pull Apple stock down to around $10 a share. That's about the time I should have bought a ton of Apple stock. Too bad my time machine was running Windows NT at the time.

    14. Re:News because by MPAB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And, FYI, that's exactly the kind of people that make the big money while us nerds look startled at their sheer ignorance and evident feeble reasoning.

    15. Re:News because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You mean the guy that practically invented the PDA and could have made Apple the biggest company in the tech world with it?

      Yeah, I remember him. Getting rid of him is the the reason Apple's going to be #2 in the computer world forever.

      Sculley sucked at building PCs, that's for sure. He would have made a kick-ass iPhone/iPod combo years ago, though, and I could see him creating an Apple version of a game console, too. It's really too bad Apple didn't keep him for his non-PC related talents.

      Oh well, why should I complain? The only Apple product I own was bought at a flea-sale for $25... :D

    16. Re:News because by bledri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      During the dot-com days, his business card would have read, "Technological Evangelist."

      I think that understates his value to Apple. A "Technological Evangelist" promotes the technology that a company has. Jobs does do this, but he also recognizes which technologies to push the development of, what markets to enter and he rides people to create products that fit his vision/version of perfection.

      That's not to say he's irreplaceable, just that since his return he has been highly effective in leading Apple's success.

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    17. Re:News because by camperslo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Macintosh and the OS as separate parts or something else?

      Prior to the Macintosh, and for some time after that, the Apple II series computers were the biggest-shipping product and profit center for Apple.

    18. Re:News because by mjwx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And, FYI, that's exactly the kind of people that make the big money while us nerds look startled at their sheer ignorance and evident feeble reasoning.

      Speak for yourself, I for one am capable of seeing through a cult of personality, so are most technically inclined people. Its those who don't have the intelligence and/or discipline to learn that become enamoured with an image or personality.

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  3. What is weird is... by pato101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    why is not Ballmer loosing weight despite of being unable to sit down anywhere?

    1. Re:What is weird is... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

      why is not Ballmer loosing weight despite of being unable to sit down anywhere?

      It's not fat, it's muscle. Peons like us don't realize the weight of a good, executive chair.

    2. Re:What is weird is... by CODiNE · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow... Steve Ballmer is the Kingpin.

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  4. It's January 5th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think Steve is the only one resolving to be "back to normal weight" by spring.

  5. Misspelled by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 3, Funny

    "stop the Tumors."

    There, fixed that for ya...

    1. Re:Misspelled by MBCook · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is not a tumor.

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  6. I only want to know by codeButcher · · Score: 4, Funny

    .... How does this influence the strength of the Reality Distortion Field??

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    1. Re:I only want to know by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

      For values inside the RDF, the field strength is unchanged.

  7. Which Steve? by chill · · Score: 4, Funny

    The big question is, which Steve will be commemorated by the U.S. Postal Service on a stamp? The younger, chubbier Steve or the older, skinnier, playing-in-Vegas Steve. If only there was a precedent...

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  8. Okay, so I have to ask the obvious question... by Fritz+Benwalla · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do I *get* this hormone imbalance?

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    1. Re:Okay, so I have to ask the obvious question... by denzacar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Start using exclusively apple products.

      Apple computers, apple software, apple music, apple apples...
      Pretty soon you will run out of money, so you will be soon be forced to eating apples grown in the wild and ones you can steal at the market.

      You'll be losing weight so fast - Justin Long will try to kill you in a fit of jealousy.

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  9. Re:Hey Steve... how about a little by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being that he had pancreatic cancer, he's probably on a special diet. A fatty diet causes a pancreas much grief.

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  10. poor jobs by clam666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess Jobs should have eaten an apple a day to keep the doctor away.

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  11. Re:Steve? by Thanshin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    dad?

    Don't you mean "father"?

    "male parental unit" would be acceptable too.

  12. Update on my weight by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just want to update everyone on my weight. I lost a few pounds when I got sick recently. Well, that or the scale varies by a few pounds (I just started using it, so I don't know how much it normally varies). I hope to have my weight back up in a few weeks. I hope this calms everyone's curiosity. I'll keep you updated on this as it progresses.

  13. extreme vegetarian diet? by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The body loses efficiency in absorbing some nutrients like B12 as one ages. Jobs has been known to have some weird diets when younger. But he has often hired private chefs who specialize in quality vegetarian preparation.

  14. Re:Hey Steve... how about a little by jgs · · Score: 4, Informative

    I haven't heard of anyone getting better from pancreatic cancer.

    Now you have. A few minutes with Wikipedia reveals that "Jobs was lucky; he had an extremely rare form called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor that can be treated surgically, without radiation or chemotherapy." (From the Fortune article the Steve Jobs Wikipedia article links to.)

    It's really dicey for non-experts (or, probably even experts) to make generalizations based on the common name of a cancer, without knowing exactly what variety of the disease it is, what stage it's at, and so on. Jobs has been (apparently) cancer-free since his surgery in July 2004.

  15. Jobs != SinglePointOfFailure by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Apple's doomed the minute Jobs is no longer running the helm, you might as well start running like hell as far away as you can from Apple right now. Jobs is a mortal, and will not be around forever. Find a company or product that will not immediately collapse when its founder dies or retires.

    Do you *really* want to be running on something with a future that uncertain? I for one don't believe that Apple's on that shakey ground, but for those who do believe that, if they're still running on Apple, they're crazy.

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    1. Re:Jobs != SinglePointOfFailure by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Find a company or product that will not immediately collapse when its founder dies or retires.

      Except that there was a long period of time between about 1985 and 1998 or so that Jobs was no longer associated with Apple. That's what? Almost 15 years?

      Apple didn't immediately collapse and the Macintosh line existed and was largely successful in niche markets without Jobs.

      No, Apple doesn't need Jobs, but I think that without Jobs, Apple would lose its sense of direction.

    2. Re:Jobs != SinglePointOfFailure by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jobs is a mortal, and will not be around forever.

      With iClone technology, it won't matter!

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  16. Re:Should I sell my Apple shares? by Hanners1979 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll either be that or the iMortal.

  17. Future Headline: Steve Has Breasts! by bodland · · Score: 2, Funny

    A buxom Steve Jobs delivered a healthy keynote at MacWorld 2010. After months of hormone imbalance treatment Jobs emerged on stage at this year's MacWorld sporting a apple logo tube top, short shorts and C cups.

  18. Re:Any doctors reading this? by Vintermann · · Score: 4, Informative

    A rare but treatable kind of pancreatic cancer, which he foolishly tried to treat by eating mostly raw vegetables, before having the operation. It's not much of speculation, it's a matter of record.

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  19. but for a *balanced* vegetarian diet by peter303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was just reading the Pixar history book this weekend and reminded of Steve's eccentricities like two months almost solely ric macrobiotic diet; Atari putting him on the night shift because he smelled so bad ...

  20. Seriously people by d3xt3r · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, but I can't believe the incredible amount of stupid comments posted here on this article. Jobs basically announces he's not dying and Apple's shares jump 4%. Apple isn't a one man operation and Wall Street knows that. It's probably safe to assume that every single innovation that's come out of Apple in the past 11 years hasn't been dumped straight from Steve's brain either.

    Steve's marketing genius and patient leadership are the real value he provides to Apple, and losing his leadership is what makes investors nervous. As some suggest, Apple pulling the Stevenote from MacWorld is an attempt to address the former, but without a plan to address the latter, Wall Street will still freak out at the possibility of Apple losing Jobs.

    In a world where IT companies are constantly diversifying their offerings, rushing products to market, and generally playing a bizarre game of throw 50 products at the market and see which ones stick, Apple is playing its cards close to its chest - and has been successfully since Job's return. It's not chasing emerging markets (Netbooks), it's not trying to get into online advertising (Microsoft) and hell it's not even doing things that outsiders think it should be doing to expand its business. Apple's stock value is based on the perception that is has a master plan. This is what makes Apple unique. And this is the value of Steve Jobs.

    1. Re:Seriously people by winwar · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Sorry, but I can't believe the incredible amount of stupid comments posted here on this article. Jobs basically announces he's not dying and Apple's shares jump 4%"

      What's even more amazing is that he didn't say he wasn't dying. He said he had a hormone imbalance. Also note the time required to regain the weight...

      Press releases are often very important for what they don't say. But most people tend to miss the obvious. Certainly doesn't rule out the dying bit....

  21. hormone imbalance by jap · · Score: 5, Funny

    is an anagram of 'a common rehab line'

  22. Re:Should I sell my Apple shares? by aliquis · · Score: 2, Funny

    You stick it in, and ... boom!

    Boom! Boom! Boom!

  23. Re:Wording is correct by easyTree · · Score: 2, Funny

    or badgers..

  24. I have no idea what this means by Invicta{HOG} · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know, there can be some pretty complicated and rare syndromes related to pancreatic hormones insofar as cancer is concerned. However, I have no idea what he is alluding to here. The most likely answer for why a person without part of a pancreas would be losing nutrients would be a deficiency in exocrine pancreatic enzymes leading to steatorrhea and calorie loss. However, the description of hormones instead of enzymes and sophisticated blood tests instead of stool tests is a little confusing. My understanding is that he had a Whipple procedure for a neuroendocrine tumor. He would certainly be at risk for steatorrhea. People with neuroendocrine tumors can overproduce certain hormones (such as glucagon) which can lead to weight loss from chronic diarrhea. However, if his problem was due to such overproduction, that would certainly mean that his cancer had not been cured by the surgery and probably wouldn't be described as an "imbalance."

    Anyway, I'm not his doctor and don't know much about his case, but can't really put together what he's given us into a coherent story. Maybe someone else can speculate, but it's a bit of a mystery what he is referring to here.

  25. Re:Any doctors reading this? by shellac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am a physician and I have actually performed a few Whipple procedures in my training. I can say that upon reading this letter, I immediately smelled big-time BS.

    There are some treatable medical causes of cachexia (profound weight loss) but they are not difficult to diagnosis. If he had pancreatic insufficiency following his pancreas resection, this should have been quickly noted because it is common and his newfound symptoms of diabetes are easily recognized.

    Hyperthyroidism is another cause of weight loss, but any doctor worth his salt would have screened for this right away. Celiac disease is another possibility but again this is not a difficult diagnosis because of the GI symptoms (lots of diarrhea).

    The most likely cause of weight loss in this setting is cancer, cancer, and cancer. It can sometimes be very difficult to find where exactly the cancer metastases have recurred, and this can delay the proper diagnosis.

    The main thing that Jobs has going for him is that this weight loss was first publicly noted some time ago now, and he does not have other signs of cancer that we know of. Jobs does not seem to be the type to hide it if he knew he had cancer. At least, he didn't hide it the first time, right?

    shellac.

  26. Guesswork at its best... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am a junior doctor and an old time contributor to Slashdot. I want to comment on this press release but I'm not interested in any trouble my guesswork may cause me.

    Steve Jobs had pancreaticoduodenectomy (Whipple's Procedure) for pancreatic neuroendocrine cancer a while ago. His press release is very cryptic and makes little sense because he's using the layman's definition of terms he's using instead of precise medical terms. I'll do my best to decipher it.

    First of all, Jobs is losing weight. Is this malnutrition or cancer-related cachexia? The former simply has to do with the body not receiving enough nurishment. The latter is an inflammatory condition related to abnormalities in inflammatory cytokines. Both cause similar outward effects but the underlying processes are very different. If we are to believe the press release then Jobs doesn't have a resurgence of his cancer. A Bloomberg article today commented that "Neuroendocrine islet cell tumors can cause overproduction of either one, or other powerful hormones such as somatostatin or gastrin, which are involved in digestion." While this is true, we are assuming Jobs had his tumor completely reseted so this isn't very likely. Therefore he probably has some form of malnutrition (more on this later).

    "Nutrition Management of the Cancer Patient" By Abby S. Bloch states on page 89:

    "Surgical resection as a treatment modality for pancreatic cancer creates several nutrition challenges: malabsorption caused by inadequate or absent exocrine pancreatic secretions or obstruction of the common bile duct (or both), diabetes mellitus resulting from resection of endocrine pancreatic cells, and protein-calorie malnutrition, which develops secondary to malabsorption."

    If we are to believe the press release, then chances are it could be any of these issues. The only issues that fall under a "nutritional problem [that] is relatively simple and straightforward" are or absent exocrine pancreatic secretions, diabetes mellitus, and protein-calorie malnutrition secondary to malabsorption.

    There are several articles which discuss these issues both in chronic pancreatitis and in patients status-post pancreatic resection and intestinal bypass. The one curious omission in the press release is the onset of symptoms. Mr. Jobs sounds like he was surprised by his weight loss and his doctors were confused. In Pancreatic Exocrine Insufficiency patients often have statorrhea which is a white-colored and foul smelling fat rich stool. Did he not notice this or was this detail to vulgar for Apple's shareholders and fanbase? It's wholly possible that he didn't have statorrhea which could have caused his doctors to run more tests to check for the worst-case scenarios such as his cancer reappearing. I think its fairly safe to take Mr. Jobs at his word. If his symptoms don't change by Spring then we can revisit this topic.

    Anyway, "Pancreatic Cancer" By Douglas Brian Evans, Peter W. T. Pisters, James L. Abbruzzese is a wonderful resource that spends a great deal of time discussing Whipple's Procedure and I would suggest reading Part III from pages 123 to 232. Another great research paper is: "Management of complications following pancreaticoduodenectomy" by CJ Yeo.

    Lastly I'd like to say this is all guesswork without having Mr. Jobs' and his test results in front of me so I welcome other doctors, experts, and researchers to comment on this press release. We can all benefit by collaboration. Remember, chaos is the score upon which reality is written but collaboration can swiftly bring some order.

    1. Re:Guesswork at its best... by gnasher719 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      One thing to consider: If someone has survived a treatable form of pancreatic cancer, then it is quite possible that three years later they suffer from a completely unrelated illness. And if a dozen doctors all say "the guy had pancreatic cancer, and now how he has weight loss, so how does pancreatic cancer cause weight loss" they might completely miss the fact that one doesn't have anything to do with the other. So when you asked

      Is this malnutrition or cancer-related cachexia

      then maybe it is neither?

  27. Re:Hey Steve... how about a little by bugs2squash · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope he goes on to enjoy a long and happy old age.

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  28. Re:Any doctors reading this? by giffnyc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Your comments seem, well... under-informed.

    Here's a link to a user comment that I found pretty interesting regarding the ability of post-Whipple procedures patients to process proteins.

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/new-money/2009/01/05/some-arent-buying-steve-jobs-hormone-imbalance.html#1593509

    For those that don't click through, here's a quote of a portion:

    "the person has an unusual level of difficulty digesting proteins, fats, and starches since pancreatic enzyme levels are reduced and since the duodenum is missing. Unlike ferrets (who also get a little understood form of insulinoma, with insulinoma being a topic that needs a lot of study still) humans just don't have a lot of excess pancreas to spare. So, the upshot is that his body now will have more of his food go through without needed nutrients digested. Hence, the weight loss.

    Add to this that he is a vegetarian, in fact, a vegan. Vegetable protein is especially difficult to break into usable amino acids. Animal protein is far easier to utilize.

    Furthermore, people who have had the Whipple Procedure sometimes find themselves simply not feeling like having the many and frequent small meals the procedure makes necessary, and as a vegan Mr Jobs may resist the foods that settle the belly at such times: full fat yogurts, full fat milk, and cheeses. "

  29. Re:hormone imbalance by DLWormwood · · Score: 2, Informative
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  30. Taking the bait by shellac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I shouldn't reply to this ridiculous posting, which implies that somehow because I am both a doctor and a geek I am not allowed to have an opinion on a media report on a medical issue. But fine, I will take the bait.

    I am not Steve Jobs' doctor and I am not trying to be. The OP solicited a doctor's opinion and I gave mine with the little information I could guess at from a media report.

    COMMON SENSE would dictate that I am not making an ironclad diagnosis from a media report, but apparently it is because of people such as yourself, who are lacking in this capacity, that people have to post disclaimers at the bottom of their comments and email or whatever that they are only giving their opinion and not a professional service.

    Before I posted my earlier message I had a discussion about the media report with one of my colleagues. It would seem then that you would prefer doctors to keep such talk to ourselves. You are quite free to block my comments or refrain from reading them from now on.

    shellac.

    1. Re:Taking the bait by shellac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wow, touchy aren't we? I guess you didn't care too much about the talk regarding McCain's chances of melanoma recurrence either. I think that was an important discussion that I would have chimed in on as well, had I seen a posting here. Just as this discussion is important to certain AAPL shareholders.

      But I guess if you don't really have an argument to make you can always attack the individual. Good luck with that.

  31. Re:Any doctors reading this? by shellac · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a well known complication of having pancreas surgery. Some patients need pancreatic enzymes supplements afterwards to process proteins.

    This sort of thing should not be a "mystery" to Jobs' doctors as the press release says.

  32. Rumors of Jobs Health Greatly Exergerated by itsybitsy · · Score: 2

    "Heck, I had half of my digestive system removed and rearranged and now my hormones are raging, or not, and it's all a mess in there. I'm wasting away into a holocaust of a man but hey I'll be back as Steve 3.0 in no time. The monopoly that Nature has on life can't stop me. No matter what bugs she throws at me I'll bounce back with new the iHormone product line, exclusively from Apple." - A glued back together man named Steve Jobs.

    Seriosly Steve I wish you the best. Please sell OSX for high end generic PCs and crush Microcrap while you're still alive. Thanks.

  33. Re:NO we haven't by porcupine8 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The idea that five years means cancer is "cured" is ridiculous. Yes, that's when you actually get to use the word, but it's completely meaningless. The relapse rate for some cancers dwindles to near zero after just two years (maybe less, I don't know about that many cancers) - some, there's a significant risk of recurrence for a long time. The five-year mark is just something they came up with long ago to make people feel better. So he's been cancer-free for 4.5 years - I'll have my next CT scan about 4.5 years after being declared in complete remission, and that is scheduled to be my last scan. My oncologist clearly isn't too worried about those last six months.

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  34. Re:Hey Steve... how about a little by porcupine8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Trust me, once you've heard the words "It's cancer," suddenly the words "it's a type with a very high survival rate" make you feel incredibly lucky.

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  35. Re:Hey Steve... how about a little by jgs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Pancreatic Cancer has a 6% 5-year survival rate.

    Again, this is pretty misleading unless you consider the specific cancer rather than "pancreatic cancer" as a generic. The statistic you cite is for "Estimated Five-year Relative Survival Ratio (%) (and 95% Confidence Interval) for the Most Common Cancers", and you read off the "pancreas" line. The specific case in question is not one of "the most common cancers" but (AFAICT) a different disease of the same organ.

    Pancreatica.org has this to say about islet cell tumors:

    Neuroendocrine tumors of the pancreas (islet cell tumors) are much less common than tumors arising from the exocrine pancreas. Reports often indicate that there are about two to three thousand cases diagnosed in the U.S. each year

    and

    The natural history of islet cell and carcinoic tumors tends to be favorable as compared with pancreatic adenocarcinoma. For example, the median survival duration from the time of diagnosis for patients with non-functioning metastatic islet cell tumors approaches five years.

    (Johns Hopkins agrees.)

    The Pancreatica article says this compares to a median survival time of 15.5 months for adenocarcinoma of the pancreas ("pancreatic cancer") treated with the same surgery Jobs had.

  36. Re:Any doctors reading this? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From what I've read in various places, consulting doctors for health advice isn't his primary strategy. I've heard the Whipple was only after everything else (quirky diets, 'alternative' healers) failed. Though I suppose there must have been some testing in there to have a diagnosis in the first place.

    I don't know what's going on, I'm just pointing out that the doctors you presume are there may not be (at least regularly), nor would they necessarily have a good patient.

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