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CRTC Mulls Canadian Content On the Internet

PsiCTO writes "The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission is going to weigh Internet content regulation — this could mean requiring some amount of Canadian content coming across Canadian pipes. The CRTC is akin to the FCC. They get that they can't 'regulate' the Internet, but are proposing to promote additional Canadian content in some way, as is currently done with radio and TV content. Likely they will discuss tax credits, subsidies, grants, or other traditional mechanisms. What do people think about this? Are there similar efforts, existing or proposed, in other countries?"

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  1. Net Neutrality in Action by brian0918 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is net neutrality in action. Once you hand over responsibility to the government, your service is only as good as those in power see fit. Internet censorship becomes a political whim, to be used when it is politically profitable for campaigns.

    1. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by jetsci · · Score: 3, Informative

      Note: I work for the CRTC. They are not proposing influencing the content itself but rather the distribution. As mentioned in the article, we do it for radio and television and it ensures that local artists are not over-shadowed by our Southern counterparts.

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    2. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by SemiSpook · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oddly enough, Rick Moranis revealed that the Mackenzie Brothers skit tacked on to the tail end of every episode of SCTV fulfilled the CRTC requirement. If someone could figure a way to do that for 'net content, you'd be golden.

    3. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Informative

      And how, pray tell, are you going to influence distribution? Are you going to set up massive filters at the borders to insert Canadian commercials like Starchoice and Bell Expressvu do with satellites (never was there a better justification for grey dishes than this unholy bit of interference)? Are you going to force foreign content providers to test for IP addresses to make sure Canadians are seeing the appropriate amount of Canadian content?

      There's a story about King Canute trying to hold back the tide. You guys at the CRTC should read it. The Internet is going to render Canadian content rules obsolete and unenforceable. You cannot force me to download Canadian content. The most you can do is abuse the CRTC's powers to up my Internet bill so some unaccountable board hands out welfare cheques to "artists".

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    4. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by finarfinjge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You wrote:

      "Note: I work for the CRTC. They are not proposing influencing the content itself but rather the distribution."

      In either case, the nanny state is telling me what I can and cannot watch. Whether it is the content, that is direct cesorship, or the distribution, that is the ability to see what I want without "help" from the government (that is you), it is STILL censorship. It is, like all cancon laws, tarted up censorship.

      JE

    5. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a great story. When they started showing SCTV down in the States, the CRTC demanded that some extra time in every episode be Canadian in content. So, feeling that this was an insane and idiotic intrusion on the show, Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas literally put a couch in front of a map of Canada, had a single cameraman rolling, and sat around being as stereotypical as possible beer-swilling inbred Ontario morons for the required number of minutes. Bob and Doug were nothing more than one big F--- You to the CRTC's Canadian content rules.

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    6. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by plover · · Score: 4, Funny

      You wrote:

      "Note: I work for the CRTC. They are not proposing influencing the content itself but rather the distribution."

      In either case, the nanny province is telling me what I can and cannot watch. Whether it is the content, that is direct cesorship, or the distribution, that is the ability to see what I want without "help" from the government (that is you), it is STILL censorship. It is, like all cancon laws, tarted up censorship, eh.

      JE

      There, I Canuckified that for you. It's now compliant with the Canadian Content laws.

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    7. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isn't net neutrality at all. This is a government agency requiring the exact opposite of net neutrality, namely the favoring of one kind of content over another. By the looks of things you're conflating "net neutrality" with "any government regulation of the Internet".

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    8. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by adonoman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, I think it was CBC, not the CRTC, that was pushing the Canadian content:

      The sketch was conceived when SCTV moved to the CBC television network. Each episode to be broadcast on that network was two minutes longer than those syndicated to the United States. The CBC network heads asked the show's producers to add specifically and identifiably Canadian content for those two minutes. Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas thought that this was a ridiculous request, since the show had been taped in Canada, with a mostly Canadian cast and crew, for two years.

    9. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by internerdj · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmmm on one side I hand over responsibility to an entity that I give money to work for me but doesn't, on the other side I hand over responsibility to an entity I give money to work for me but doesn't. Decisions, Decisions.

    10. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're not proposing cutting anything but why would we allow American commercials to profit within our borders when we can boost our economy with a little home-grown advertising?

      For products made in China.

      Canadian content rules are becoming more moronic every single day.

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    11. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by Feanturi · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm reasonably certain that even newfies know the difference between .com and .ca Yeah whatchya got dere bai is yer dot com dat's da reg'lar innernet, and ya gotchyer dot C-A dat's yer Canadian innernet. In Newfoundland though we just calls dat a cod trap, dat's da innernet inside da outernet.

    12. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by armer · · Score: 4, Funny

      But you forgot to Canuckify your post eh, you hoser...

    13. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's a story about King Canute trying to hold back the tide.

      Maybe they need to read the story about Aqluktikut, the Innuit hunter who was trying to stop the polar bear from being white... It's got more Canadian content.

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    14. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Informative

      The CRTC are a bunch of hypocrites:

      "The Guild has recommended that local conventional stations get a portion of satellite and cable fees from subscribers in their area to pay for local programming, including news. It has also urged the CRTC to reintroduce a policy requiring local news from local broadcasters. "

      http://www.cmg.ca/newsresults.asp?ID=1177&BranchID=10&SubjectID=12

      Rogers (cable) said this would add cost to consumers. In the end, Rogers upped their rates anyhow.

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    15. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by ahodgson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thousands of people are homeless and our medical system has 6-month waiting lists for surgery, but what we really need, clearly, is the government to pay for more horrible "content" on the freakin Internet.

      Holy balls. Get out of my wallet.

    16. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jeez. How tyrannical.

      The Canadian Provinces should secede from the Confederation and come join the United States. (Except Quebec. You can remain independent or join France, or something.) We already invited the Canadians to join us in 1776. That invitation is still open.

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    17. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Note: I work for the CRTC.

      Then fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I don't need some government functionary telling me what I should and should not be watching. You tell me it is to save Canada's identity. What is the difference between that and the Quebec Language Police (don't laugh, they are real) who will fine and drive a company out of business in Quebec if they have the unbelievable gall to put English or any non-French word over their store front even if their clients are non-french! In a bilingual country! (This is real... if you cater to a German or Italian clientele, you can't put German or Italian... or English even... on your signs or you will receive hefty fines, and repeated 'offenses' can result in the seizure of your store/business... this went to the world court where Quebec lost and this was named a human rights violation which they ignored and continued to do anyway.)How is telling me what I can watch on TV on public airwaves any different than what the Quebec government does with their Language Police. It is after all in the name of preserving their French culture. Even if it is committing human rights violations, telling me or my kids what language I can put on my store, or what language they use in the playground at recess? There is no difference. It is censorship and a power trip by you, the mind police. Fuck off and die.

      If I want to watch 6 channels of HBO (not this bullshit 'HBO Canada' that you so graciously grant us) then I should be able to watch it. Instead you ban me from watching HBO in Canada, and bar me from buying satellite TV from an American firm. Dishnetwork is made Illegal in Canada by the CRTC because their Mind Police don't want us poor Canadians to be overly influenced by American TV. Hey Mind Police: blow me. If I want to immerse myself in pure Americana television then piss off and let me. If I want to watch wall to wall BBC then go blow water buffaloes if you don't like it. If Canadian television were worth watching, I would watch it. But stop forcing me to pay for productions of that pathetic fucking Royal Canadian Air Fucking Farse. The worst shit on TV and we have to pay for it on government funded C fucking BC TV.

      And this is such a joke anyway when Canadians continually subvert themselves. It is rich when it is the non Christian immigrants to Canada who complain the most when that Jewish Woman judge insisted on removing a Christmas tree from a Toronto court house at Christmas time because it was offensive to non Christians. What the fuck? Thanks God for the non Christian immigrants who had the temerity to tell people how stupid that was. It was their influence that had a lot to do with bringing the tree back in to show that some small part of the country was celebrating a special day (what? you mean Canada was founded by Christians and it is a mostly Christian society, and many people who came here realized that and saw how stupid it was for us to have our way of life and faith stomped on?... well never mind then!). How ridiculous that the Ontario government actually considered allowing Sharia law for Muslims in family courts. Want to keep a Canadian identity? Then straighten out that kind of bullshit thinking first. Never mind keeping the functioning of the courts and their decisions secular, but Sharia... holy fuck!?

      Dude, keep the Canadian Roadblock To Communications the hell out of my life. You all ought to be shot and pissed on. The CRTC: a monument to censorship and back room deals to cable companies, big telecoms, and the RIAA. Good riddance to you.

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    18. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by supernova_hq · · Score: 3, Funny

      I though we made our opinion of joining the United States quite clear when we burned down your precious white house in 1814...

    19. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by supernova_hq · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, this raises my big question about how they are going to categorize "Canadian" content

      • About Canadian stuff.
      • Designed in Canada.
      • Paid for in Canada.
      • Hosted in Canada.
      • Tunneled through a connection in Canada.
      • Primarily viewed in Canada.

      With TV/Radio the question is not that hard to answer, but when you are talking about websites, it really gets kind of confusing.

      Now I didn't read the article, but the summary specifically says "Internet" not "Web." So what content does this apply to then?

      • Websites (HTTP/HTTPS).
      • Email.
      • FTP Servers.
      • Streaming video/audio (UDP, not HTTP).
      • SSH tunnels.
      • DNS.
      • VOIP.
      • Online Gaming.

      Sigh, if only slashdot comments could hold 2 dimensional wikipedia style tables...

    20. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Should we be allowing foreign advertisers to reap the benefits of our audience or should we bolster our own economy with a little targeted advertising/content and help with cultural diversity? A good example is radio stations. Imagine 100% American content(artists). Doesn't do much for our economy. Now, CRTC says, "We want you to ensure that 1 out of 10 songs is Canadian". Seems reasonable to me. Those American songs still get played but we help out local artists out and still keep the Americans happy. Whats the problem? Don't tread on me!

      But what if I think Canadian artists suck, and I, as a citizen of an allegedly free country, only want to listen to American artists.

      Well, good thing the Internet is around, because it renders the CRTC utterly meaningless. I'll listen to whatever I want, and if the only way a Canadian band can get airtime is to actually "make it", as opposed to getting freebies because a pack of deluded, power-hungry bureaucrats deem them worthy of my ear, then so be it. If they can't make it, they can continue being half-assed garage bands. Plenty of Canadian acts have made it, in some cases made it in a huge way (the Band, Rush, Joni Mitchell and Neil Young), without the help of unaccountable bureaucratic worms.

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    21. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by schon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, the CRTC defines the Canadian content broadcasting rules.

      Which has *NOTHING* to do with the topic at hand.

      If you'd do even the smallest amount of investigation, you'd see that the statements about "The Great White North" are provably false.

      Here's a quote for you:

      Evaluation of Canadian content in a television program is based on the following criteria: whether its producer and key creative personnel are Canadian; the amounts paid to Canadians for services provided to make the program; and amounts spent in Canada on lab processing.

      On other words, the CRTC decides what is "Canadian" not by the script content, but by the nationality of the production (crew, writers, etc) and where it's filmed.

      But of course, it's easier for you to maintain your "oh, the CRTC is so stupid" mentality if you don't actually know anything about what the rules actually are, right?

    22. Re:Net Neutrality in Action by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What is worse is that in Canada, many of the descendants of people who arrived here from roughly 75 to 300 years ago (the now politically correct WASPS) seem to think that the government should be the entity to 'keep the culture' when in fact the culture is kept by the people whether they know it or not. So now Canada has a culture of legislated political correctness complete with the mind police and 'hate crimes' breeding smug narrow minded people content that "we are fighting off the evil American empire" ... who happen to be our biggest trading partner and without whose business we would be broke and not able to afford to hold the collective nose up at American culture. This kind of system crossed with peanut butter gives you the taste of shit stuck to the roof of you mouth. A good culture is dynamic and stands on its own two feet. Standing it on a bureaucracy is like adding an odd weighted third leg shoved up our collective ass.

      Ah well... My brother once told me after I got reamed by a Canadian border guard on returning to my own country ("where are you going?", "what are you going to do?"... like he can deport me if he doesn't like the answer)... they are bureaucrats, you don't want them to think, it is beyond them. They are supposed to follow rules.

      After moving back to Ontario after nearly 25 years away I am stunned by the Napoleon complex it has toward the United States. The War of 1812 ended almost 200 years ago, get over it. :/

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  2. But all my internet content is porn by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Funny

    So are we now going to get goverment subsidised canadian porn? For that matter, get the canadian goverment to ensure that canadian slashdot readers get the right percentage of canadian first posts?

    I don't know what they smoke in canada but it got to be good.

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    1. Re:But all my internet content is porn by kramer2718 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Canadian pr0n... Interesting concept, but wouldn't the hockey sticks get in the way?

    2. Re:But all my internet content is porn by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Funny

      only for certain values of "way"

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    3. Re:But all my internet content is porn by poetmatt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Those aren't hockey sticks they're waving

    4. Re:But all my internet content is porn by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Basically, yes.

      Instead of attempting to regulate the internet, which would be insane at best and totally fucktarded at worst, they're probably going to try something else.

      That would be grants and tax breaks to Canadian providers of internet content. Iliad (userfriendly) might get to write off (his? her?) bandwidth as a legitimate expense. If you create a blog, you might be able to get a grant. I don't know what they're planning.

      The CRTC might be a huge bloated archaic corporation, but they're not complete morons.

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    5. Re:But all my internet content is porn by Vagrant · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know what they smoke in canada but it got to be good.

      BC Bud ... and ya ... its good.

    6. Re:But all my internet content is porn by darthnoodles · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Right, because a few seconds of action interspersed with minutes of lull (Baseball, golf and Football), are much more exciting to watch? Gosh darn, a race to see who can turn left the fastest (NASCAR) is more exciting too right?

      *yawn*

  3. CanCon by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Canadian Content laws may be controversial, but there is no denying that it has helped Canadian art and artists flourish. Personally, I don't mind paying a few extra bucks each year on my tax return, if it means I get to live in a richer, more interesting society as a result.

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    1. Re:CanCon by msobkow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It hasn't helped Canadian "art" flourish. Quite the opposite -- it's provided funding to drek that no one wants. Commercial art (i.e. TV and radio) needs to be competitive to survive, not propped up by tax dollars. Witness the CBC's abysmal ratings and lack of standout series for the past many years.

      An article I read this weekend explained that they're talking about Can-Con for foreign web broadcasters, including some TV channels that internet broadcast from the Phillipines. I don't think I've ever heard a more ludicrous thing -- demanding that foreign stations carry Canadian content!

      Rather than bleat about the competition, CBC could do like CTV and start internet broadcasting their series as streaming video. The only CanCon rules I support would be to mandate that Canadian content be internet-enabled so that it can compete. Navel-gazing demands on the content carried by foreign channels is pointless -- there is no way to enforce it and it would be considered as interference by the nations where those channels are based, and rightly so.

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    2. Re:CanCon by 0racle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What it has helped is keeping people making complete crap under the guise of making 'good Canadian content' as opposed to reality hitting them square in the ass and giving them a clue that they suck.

      Worst government waste ever. Well, not the worst, but still a huge waste.

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    3. Re:CanCon by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, CBC probably has some of the best radio and news content available, while I'm not personally a fan of most of their TV series.

      Their radio shows are all available online as podcasts, and they produce excellent content that I'm proud to sponsor with my tax money.

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    4. Re:CanCon by oldspewey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah CBC Radio One does a phenomenal job with their programming.

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    5. Re:CanCon by PsiCTO · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, I quite enjoy living in our giant commune, being deferential to the kommisars, working in my government-supplied job that makes me a cog in Canada's 5-year plan. I plan to make the pilgramage to Ottawa to see the perfectly preserved body of our great revolutionary leader, John A. MacDonald, as he lies in state in perpetuity reminding us how we shrugged off the totalitarian rule of a constitutional monachy that offered us independent government and self-determination. Most comforting of all is that by maintaining the facade of a pseudo-communist society, we have effectively kept reactionary, mythology-promoting/believing liberty-before-death(through non-affordable health-care) Americans out of the country... click for help

  4. Government should not compete by wealthychef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is special about "Canadian content" anyhow? The whole notion of nationalism needs to begin fading into the background. If there is something unique of value that the Canadian gov't brings to its citizens, fine, but an attempt to promote the Canadian brand by the government is not really useful in the big picture. If there is something great to publish, then there is no real barrier to its being published. This is just branding and it's a waste of time.

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    1. Re:Government should not compete by onkelonkel · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think you understand how vitally important this is. Without CanCon rules there would have been no Bryan Adams, no Alanis Morisette, no Avril Lavigne, no Celene Dion.

      OK, never mind.

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    2. Re:Government should not compete by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The real irony here is that Canada has produced some major acts with little help from Canadian content rules. Rush has been since the late 1970s a major act, selling out arena tours, selling tons of records, while most of it has hardly ever gotten major air time in Canada or the States. The same goes for the Band, which pretty much relocated to the US, and during its heyday, was four-fifths Canadian, and yet is now seen as being one of the most important rock and roll bands of the last half century.

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    3. Re:Government should not compete by Old97 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What nonsense. What in the hell is "cultural imperialism" anyway? It's an inflammatory but meaningless term. Quality Canadian artists thrive on the world stage and in the U.S. Even mediocre ones seem to do well. As for "economic imperialism", Canada does very well in its trade relations with the U.S. Canada's economy is a good balance of extractive, agricultural, manufacturing and service businesses. If there was any "economic imperialism" involved then the U.S would only be trading automobiles for timber and oil. That's not the case. Canada manufactures and exports automobiles, consultants, service, rail and other transportation services, and a whole host of high value economic products. To top it all off, Canada gets a big defense subsidy by being next to the U.S. It can afford to spend much less as a percent of GDP on defense because it knows the U.S. won't allow anyone to attack it. The CRTC and certain other Canadians engaging in this delusional paranoia are really undervaluing what Canada, Canadians and Canadian culture produce. Otherwise they wouldn't be so fearful of letting it compete fairly on the world stage. I don't see the Australians having this problem.

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    4. Re:Government should not compete by qbzzt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you are a country of ~30 million situated next to a neighbour ten times your size (and that neighbour has a penchant for economic and cultural imperialism), sometimes you have to take steps to prevent the trampling of your artistic community.

      Or accept that if your populations' artistic ability is about the same you'll produce 10% the amount of great art as that neighbor. It's not like US TV channels and record companies will discriminate against Canadian artists if they could squeeze money out of them.

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    5. Re:Government should not compete by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll gladly accept the insult (complement?) about cultural imperialism - you are right and the world certainly seems to import a lot of our "art". But any country who imposes Nickelback on us deserves the title as well :)

      Besides, in 40 years or so we'll all be hearing more stuff like this...

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    6. Re:Government should not compete by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You ought to torrent shows like ReGenesis, The Border, Little Mosque On The Prairie and Trailer Park Boys, a lot of which you can't get in the States unless you live close to The Line. Corner Gas is sometimes seen on WGN, however. There's some good stuff happening above The Line, and I'd LOVE to see more of it down here.

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  5. Global by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a Canadian, I'm ashamed that our tax dollars are being wasted like this. The WORLD WIDE web is GLOBAL. Attempting to enforce (or even encourage) Canadian content on the WORLD WIDE web is simply stupid. Even with their alternate methods (tax credits, subsidies, grants, etc.), it's simply stupid. I have troubles supporting CanCon on radio and TV but on the WORLD WIDE web? Nah. That's just a waste of time and money.

  6. Doesn't make as much sense for the Internet by langelgjm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course this sort of thing exists in other countries, at least for broadcast media. France, for example, has quotas on both television and radio content.

    I'm not sure that it makes as much sense for the Internet, though. The French idea is that you have limited broadcast time, and without a quota, they'd be playing American music and television shows 24/7. Maybe that makes sense, but with the Internet, you don't have the same broadcasting limits. People choose what they want to listen to with ease, actively seeking out their preferred content from any number of sources.

    They can promote domestic content all they want, and it might even be a good thing, but it's not going to have the same "cultural preservation" effects as with broadcast media.

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    1. Re:Doesn't make as much sense for the Internet by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The general idea seems now to be focusing on levies. In other words, there's no way to force Canadians to watch and listen to more Canadian content on the Internet, so instead we'll simply further entrench the artistic welfare. It should lead to delightful situations where a TV show gets no more than a few thousand viewers, but gets topped up from the levy.

      Initiatives like this are why so much Canadian content is nothing but mediocre trash with horrible production values, terrible actors, terrible writers, while Canadian talent, in large part, simply goes down to the States where the real money is.

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    2. Re:Doesn't make as much sense for the Internet by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who then take their american casting company and film their dirty american content in Canada, where its cheaper.

      Where they also get money throw at them by various levels of government in the form of film development tax credits and grants, thus making Governor Schwarzenegger cry.

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  7. A silly idea, but may do some good by Strike+Fiss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the CRTC wants to encourage Canadian Content on the net, maybe they could lobby Ottawa to create tax breaks for using local companies and carbon-footprint shrinking solutions. I just recently changed my host to a Canadian provider who uses Green Energy for their datacentre and I feel pretty happy about that. I suspect plenty of personal and professional Canadian users would do the same if there was even the most reasonable incentive to do so given out by the Gov.

    And best thing about this plan: it wouldn't even require 1 out of every 100 homepages to be an Alanis Morsette or Celine Dion tribute page. (thank God...)

  8. Translation: Dear Canadian-based providers.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let me translate this for you:

    Dear Canadian-based content providers....

    We in the government would like very much if you would kindly move your servers and business operations to another country, and create a holding company that remains in Canada to distribute the income from the foreign operations.

    We of course, will not make you do this, so we are now adopting regulations to make it very clear that we really want you to do it.

    Thank you for your consideration.

  9. It's not about the government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We live in a predominantly capitalist society.

    Canada has about 30 million consumers, and the US has about 300 million.

    Even among Canadians there are many distinct cultures that are truly Canadian.

    But attempts to produce content that appeals to any fraction of Canadians can quickly get drowned out by whatever drivel all the US teenagers are interested it.

    As far as North America is concerned, Canadians are a minority, and the government is trying to do it's part to make sure that the minority voice is loud enough to be heard over the endless drone of American consumerism.

    1. Re:It's not about the government by cyriustek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Canada clearly has a distinct culture, that many of its people want to preserve. However, it does seem that some Canadians do go a bit overboard with it.

      When traveling across Europe, or Australia or NZ, it is quite easy to pick the Canadians out. It seems that a very large percentage keep a Maple leaf somewhere on their body or clothing. Evidently, they do not like people assuming that they are Americans due to their accent, so they over compensate.

      Since many people have noticed this attitude from Canadians, they usually will not ask someone if they are American if they meet them, so as to avoid offending the Canadians. Instead, they inquire whether one is from Canada, since it seems rare for an American to be insulted by this question.

      I think this is a little like a little brother / big brother rivalry. Although Canada is large geographically, it clearly does not have the population of the USA. As such, there is not a concerted effort of Americans trying to implement imperialism over Canada, it just happens due to the numbers. We can see similar examples of this in NZ and Australia. Another example would be Wales and England.

      I cannot blame Canadians for trying to get their culture out there. However, going overboard just makes one look a bit silly.

    2. Re:It's not about the government by aok · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wonder how many of those people proudly wearing the maple leaf are actually Americans? While traveling in Europe about 6-7 years ago, I met around four people outside bars and restaurants who were Americans pretending to be Canadians. At this point, I just assume anyone wearing a Canadian flag on them is really just an American in disguise :)

    3. Re:It's not about the government by mewsenews · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When traveling across Europe, or Australia or NZ, it is quite easy to pick the Canadians out. It seems that a very large percentage keep a Maple leaf somewhere on their body or clothing. Evidently, they do not like people assuming that they are Americans due to their accent, so they over compensate.

      1. How is wearing a maple leaf overcompensating for a reasonable problem?
      2. How many of those folks wearing a maple leaf are Americans who don't like people assuming that they are Americans?

    4. Re:It's not about the government by euxneks · · Score: 3, Funny

      All us Canucks also wear Tim Hortons stuff abroad now. Anyone who doesn't is deemed american and subsequently mapled and beavered for impersonating a canadian. If you don't know what mapling and beavering is, be warned, you may be the next target.

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  10. Great.. by maddskillz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hope this doesn't mean they expect me to download nickleback mp3's

  11. Tax funded CanCon by qbzzt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think anybody would object to you paying a few extra bucks each year to a charity that produced Canadian content if you think that makes your society richer and more interesting.

    But do you really think Canadian content would die if Canadians weren't forced to pay for it? If not, why do you think it needs to be funded by taxes? If yes, doesn't it mean most of you don't think it's a worthwhile investment in your society?

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  12. Why? by Xest · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd argue that it's one of the few things we here in Britain have going for us nowadays- the BBC.

    The BBC produces some excellent content and shares it worldwide such as Planet Earth and gets involved in various co-productions with foreign companies such as HBO in the US. Some people love BBC news, others hate it but overall the BBC is a top notch content producer when it comes to (lots of people love Top Gear, Doctor Who etc.).

    The situation with the BBC isn't quite the same as that described but it is similar. I think the BBC is largely quite respected worldwide for the content it produces to and whilst many things make Britain look like an awful country nowadays, I'd argue the BBC isn't one of them and in fact is one of the few things that shows us in a positive light.

    It may sound bad but really it's not, we pay a TV license here which funds the BBC and they also have BBC Worldwide a commercial arm that sells DVDs of their content and such on the world stage to help fund international content too. As such if your setup follows the latter model- by charging reasonable amounts for some, but not all of the foreign content the cost isn't going to be much, but more people will become aware of Canadian culture.

    It does have benefits.

  13. CRTC - Screw You, Taxpayer by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 2, Funny

    And it's on-topic, too (at least after 1:20).

    When it comes to the Internet, though, I think this is completely wrong (as has probably been stated here). When we're watching TV, we can either watch the American channels, with 99% American programming, or the Canadian networks, with about 75% American programming. The Canadian shows will always end up on the Canadian channels. With the Intertubes, wouldn't we really just be choosing to watch American or Canadian content directly?

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  14. rtard by DarthVain · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Stupid Stupid idea.

    Mandatory Canadian content in Radio and TV are also stupid ideas.

    I understand the reason. We Canadians are BOMBARDED by US culture, radio, tv, etc... I see the need to have some Canadian identity in there.

    However they are going about it all wrong. I know some radio has a hard time meeting the content quota, and what happens is a lot of the same crappy songs get played, really only because they are Canadian. This isn't what we should be promoting.

    What we should be doing is having programs and money from government to sponsor the arts. The rest will follow.

    On top of that, the internet is much different than radio and TV and it makes even less sense in this context.