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Shuttleworth Announces Karmic Koala
An anonymous reader writes to mention that Mark Shuttleworth has announced the next release in the horribly alliterative Ubuntu family, "Karmic Koala." The new version hopes to include a newer, shinier, faster startup, better small screen support, a spruced-up desktop look (no more brown), and many minor tweaks and updates. "A newborn Koala spends about six months in the family before it heads off into the wild alone. Sounds about perfect for an Ubuntu release
plan! I'm looking forward to seeing many of you in Barcelona, and before
that, at a Jaunty release party. Till then, cheers."
Like we need another brand of kola on the market.
I've always been fascinated how the Debian (and derivatives) releases have functioned. Each branch is like a chamber in a revolver; as it reaches 'stable', it aligns itself with the barrel ready to be fired off to the masses.
I was hoping for Kwicky. :-(
Am I the only one who likes the brown color scheme?
I find that it's easy on the eyes without being outright drab, but maybe that's just me.
It only looks cute and cuddly. Actually try to cuddle a koala and it'll bite you, claw you, and shit on you.
Or so I've heard...
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I was hoping for King Krimson.
I actually thought this was a joke when I first read it. Especially with the cloud computing bullshit.
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...they're finally getting a new theme?
Seriously, of all the things to mention in the summary, you focus on the not-brown?
There's a page long rant about cloud computing, about the eucalyptus project, and why the release is named koala. And you mention that, like every release, there's talk of it possibly not being brown?
I'm just going to leave this info there and walk away
How about the RAM/disk footprint? I'd like to know if it's getting leaner.
I was a bit frustrated at that too, of all the people to use buzzwords he's the last one I want running around exclaiming them.
"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
Kill the Koala. Get a real name. Get this distro hopping.
Ops, I shuld have usd the prevuwe but in.
... is that it scatters its seeds by explosion, into the remains of a forest fire (which it promotes via its extremely flammable sap and the tinder pile of leaves and shed bark it creates around itself - apparently "in the hope of" getting the fire started B-) ). A row of eucalyptus trees during a fire can become the equivalent of a walking artillery barrage targeting a fuel dump.
So I certainly wouldn't want to compute on a eucalyptus cluster - even if it is a "cloud" floating far away (like over the Berkeley Hills - high enough to be visible from I5 north of Sacramento). I'd worry about it taking out the data center and my data with it and "distributing" it up to the tropopause and onward with the prevailing wind.
As for my laptop, no WAY I'll install any eucalyptus package on that. It's got enough problem with those lithium batteries with the energy density of a hand grenade without adding something more with the energy density of napalm.
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And I thought Ubuntu had an unfortunate choice of names. Good grief!
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Will be named Masturbating Monkey
They updated the summary. My cached (igoogle) summary doesn't include the word Ubuntu: "An anonymous reader writes to mention that Mark Shuttleworth has announced the next release in their horrible alliterative family, 'Karmic Koala'."
Adding Ubuntu "their horrible alliterative Ubuntu family" made it more clear.
...DropBear as the default SSH. Should have been called "Killer Koala."
Resistance is futile. Reactance buggers it up.
Karma might dictate that, with this release, Ubuntu adoption reaches a critical mass, and the first (legitimate) wave of Ubuntu-oriented virii are released into the wild.
Anybody want my mod points?
Damn it!
I had 1000:1 odds on "Kinky Kangaroo"
I say don't drink and drive, you might spill your drink. Before you get behind the wheel just stop and think.
Shuttleworth has been promising big overhauls to the default look since Dapper Drake. There have been incremental improvements but on the whole the basic theme really hasn't changed.
While it doesn't matter to me because I'm literate enough in GNOME to install new themes, I would love to see the Ubuntu folks actually follow through on their promises to really do a nice theme.
I confess that not knowing who mark shutlleworth may be, I do not understand what you wanted to announce.
I think you're on the wrong site. Here's where you probably wanted to go: Unfortunately even they have Linux-related articles every now and then.
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
It's 2009. Over twenty years since the original Macintosh was released. Twenty years since the fundamentals of UI element spacing, text rendering, text kerning, verticle and horizontal text alignment, colour usage...
And the latest Ubuntu, the 'gold standard' for Linux desktops, is a complete mess:
* Text kerning problems all over the place
* Alignment problems in almost every single text field or label
* Almost random colour choice for UI elements
* UI elements having no consistent alignment or spacing
* UI elements that look like they come from some amateur 1990s Mac/Windows clone
Honestly, the toy apps I throw together in Interface Builder look like polished commercial grade software compared to almost everything I see in Linux. I can only assume that there is no standard Linux UI building tool equal to Interface Builder.
Microsoft is on the ropes with Vista and frantically rushing Win7 out the door. Cheap netbooks are doing major damage to the OS profit margins.
And Linux continues to be a UI train wreck. Silly names. Stupid package management with insane dependencies. Redundant and competing desktops. License wars. Mass duplication of common apps with each version sucking in their own unique ways and no single app every getting to the point of being a drop in replacement for commercial Mac/Windows versions.
Even something as trivial as the damn Solitaire app looks like a complete piece of shit.
Boggle.
and... rich 50 is middle-class 38 !
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
Koala spends sleeping 75% of its time.
So does any operating system.
Just watch `top` and see.
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Or might it just be called K3?
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What _is_ nice to see is the focus on computers with limited screen space. I suppose that this will only apply to the Gnome based Ubuntu, as Kubuntu is stuck with KDE, which is "not interested" in having optional windows configurations that fit on "vertically challenged" screens:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169043
Even the Mozilla apps have this option, and it is one of the reasons that I use Thunderbird and Firefox over the otherwise terrific Kmail and the getting-there Konqueror.
Or maybe I should give Gnome another try.
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
That's wierd,
I saw an early lecture by a Nokia employee (it was just after the Troll Tech purchase). It was about the awesomeness and ease of use of plasma.
He touted it being usable everywhere as a major selling point for plasma, and KDE4's approach in general.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
They're really ditching the brown?!?!? Can I announce year of desktop Linux yet?!?
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
Masturbating Monkey is sure to be a let-down after all the fun of Leprotic Lemur.
Personally, I'm holding out for Vapid Vole.
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
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Shouldn't that read "the appallingly alliterative Ubuntu family"?
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I think you meant kloud komputing.
No, the OS spends 75% in Idle... unlike most slashdot readers.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Seriously. I left the default desktop background for a month or so after I did a fresh install of 8.10. At least half a dozen people in my office said something to the effect of 'That's a cool background!'.
Sure the coffee-stained leather looking thing gets a bit old after a while but it is definitely not any worse than rolling green hills with blue skies and multicolored windows!
So... when will I be able to use multiple displays without having two separate X sessions? You can't drag things between sessions so that approach is useless, and I don't want one virtual display where everything full screen is kicked between the two either. I want two screens. Is that so hard? It's part of the reason i rarely use ubuntu at home!
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Worldwide Military budgets: $2100 billion. Worldwide Space Exploration budgets: $38 billion. Really, world? Really?
You should consider changing the pack of twats you hang around with, or just be happy they actually use it, and educate them gently.
Or you might want to hang around with Apple evangelists and get frustrated by their belief that Apple invented The Mouse, or with MS evangelists who think Ballmer was the first one to practice chair-throwing as an alternative form of stress relief.
The ones I can't stand are those linux users who look down at Ubuntu because it is actually easy to use and offers the advantages of a linux based OS to the technically challenged masses, on the ground that they were "Here First". Just because you used to code by punching holes in paper cards doesn't make you any wiser. It just means you're old.
"DRM is like the Ford Pinto: it's a smooth ride, right up the point at which it explodes and ruins your day."-C.Doctorow
Exactly, it's part of their "Qt everywhere" program. That's why these issues (there are others) are so frustrating.
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
The operating system formerly known as Ubuntu?
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
Are you sure that's not kloud komputing bullshit?
"No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality;..."
Actually, I think the only Linux users who are irked by Ubuntu's popularity are probably younger people who think they're 133t by using something more difficult. Those of us who are "old" (is 23 old?) are more likely to be uninterested in Ubuntu only because we already know our own distros and the workings of a Unix system in general. Most of us oldies are too chill to waste time talking down Ubuntu. Look to your own peers for irrational Ubuntu-bashing.
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Why did I first read this as idiot-with-ubuntu rather than i-do-it-with-ubuntu?
Yes, I know I'm replying to a slightly tongue-in-cheek posting but...
Can we get some convention in the tag system? I'd recommend lowerCamelCase.
I use camel case even for files - The "Documents And Settings" and "Program Files" nuisance could have been avoided if MS had adopted such a convention.
I agree with one thing the other replier said - I disregard Ubuntu simply because I used other distros first, and found one that works the way I like (openSUSE), and don't like some of the decisions that the Ubuntu devs have made regarding Ubuntu's use. As you say, it really doesn't seem to be intended for more technically inclined users, so it shouldn't be surprising that those users - who probably do use other distros and aren't really familiar with Ubuntu - dislike Ubuntu and actively deride it for pandering to the masses.
I think part of the problem is that in order to obtain the success it has, Ubuntu has had to change the way some things are done in Linux/Unix. Sometimes these are improvements, but sometimes they aren't, and even if they are the 'hard-core' linux users won't like them if it makes things more like Windows or OS X.
It is the same thing with KDE vs. Gnome. Gnome and Ubuntu follow the same philosophies (and the devs are probably close-knit) and their goal is to please the masses, which means making compromises and limitations not acceptable to the aforementioned technically inclined users who like to have things their own way.
All mouth and no trousers...
So, it isn't pants, then? I'm confused.
... and then they built the supercollider.
That is a lot of bugs to file ...
Wouldn't it be more productive if there existed some detailed style guide/HIG.
I know that one exists, but it isn't very prominent and seems to lack good detailed examples.
The CPU gets idle, processes sleeps.
From the top manpage:
The status of the task which can be one of:
'D' = uninterruptible sleep
'R' = running
'S' = sleeping
'T' = traced or stopped
'Z' = zombie
factor 966971: 966971
...Stupid package management with insane dependencies. ...
And you say this as a Mac user, using an OS that doesn't even have a unified package management system (And no, .pkg files don't count, since they aren't unified and there's no built-in update of uninstall mechanism)?
Your post should have been marked troll, flamebait or Macfanboi, and I say that as a Mac user myself who owns three Macs.
The Aamazing Aardvark.
I use mainly Debian (on my desktops) and OS X (on my laptop). There are pros and cons to both, but by far the biggest con of the Mac and pro of Debian is that packing management actually exists and works.
I nearly fell out of my chair when I first saw that the official way to install apps on OS X is to mount a virtual drive image and then manually copy files out of it to somewhere on your hard drive (like the Applications folder), and then unmount the drive image. That's the best they could come up with?
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
...I seriously doubt it. There have been hopes of that for several releases...
sudo mount --milk --sugar
We need to get Lusty Lobster, Melancholy Mule, and Obese Otter out the door first.
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Oh, I dunno. Get old enough and you start to want things to "just work". Which is something that Ubuntu gets mostly right for the desktop. Still some rough edges, but 8.04 was pretty nice.
Which is one of the things I ultimately didn't like about Gentoo. When you had a problem, first you had to figure out if it was due to bad USE flags, or whether it was a problem with the upstream package. Which made for a lot of fun fiddling, but it got tedious after a while.
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